Join different regions

[Mr.SpOOn]

Hi,
I'm pretty new to Ardour so this may be a stupid question.

I'm using Ardour to record a Podcast. Actually I recorded firts in
Audacity, but now I'm trying to put all together here in Ardour.
I need to edit different parts of the recording. Very often I need to
reduce silence in the speech. To do this I use the "range" tool,
select the silence I want to cut and then press "del". This creates
two new regions. Now with the object tool I move the second region
near the first one and then go on. After doing this some times I have
a lot of regions. Is there a way to join them all to have just one
region?

I think the answer is no, because this would mean to actually change
the audio file. So, what is the best way to proceed? Shall I export a
selection of all regions and then import it again or shall I work with
all the regions splitted?

Thanks and sorry if I made it more complex than it actually is.

Bye,
Carlo
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[Brett McCoy-2]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Mr.SpOOn <mr.spoon21@...> wrote:

> I think the answer is no, because this would mean to actually change
> the audio file. So, what is the best way to proceed? Shall I export a
> selection of all regions and then import it again or shall I work with
> all the regions splitted?

https://ardour.org/node/1234

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[Daniel Joshua Worth]

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From: Daniel Joshua Worth <pipemanmusic@...>
Date: Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Join different regions
To: Brett McCoy <idragosani@...>


A much simpler way of reducing noise would be to use a gate.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Brett McCoy <idragosani@...> wrote:

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Mr.SpOOn <mr.spoon21@...> wrote:

> I think the answer is no, because this would mean to actually change
> the audio file. So, what is the best way to proceed? Shall I export a
> selection of all regions and then import it again or shall I work with
> all the regions splitted?

https://ardour.org/node/1234

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[Axel Müller-4]

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:41:21 -0400
Brett McCoy <idragosani@...> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Mr.SpOOn <mr.spoon21@...> wrote:
>
> > I think the answer is no, because this would mean to actually change
> > the audio file. So, what is the best way to proceed? Shall I export a
> > selection of all regions and then import it again or shall I work with
> > all the regions splitted?
>
> https://ardour.org/node/1234

This thread is quite outdated!

Since quite a few releases there is the consolidate function: Use the
range tool to select the range you want to consolidate and then from
the context menu of that range click "consolidate range". A new audio
file will be rendered and the regions in that range will be replaced by
the new corresponding region.

Axel - the C.L.A.

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[m.eik michalke]

am Mittwoch, 14. Oktober 2009 (17:02) schrieb Daniel Joshua Worth:
> A much simpler way of reducing noise would be to use a gate.

i think carlo doesn't want to reduce noise, but cut out the pauses of recorded
speech, that is, shorten the recording by getting rid of dispensable silence.


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[Ricardus]

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 09:02 -0600, Daniel Joshua Worth wrote:

 Sometimes you can hear gates working (opening and closing), so that
isn't always the best solution.  Lots of engineers draw silence into
regions with their DAWs.

 Although since we are talking DAWs here, there is no reason for a
plugin based gate NOT to be 'look-ahead', which would solve most
problems with using gates.


 Ricardus...

>
> A much simpler way of reducing noise would be to use a gate.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Brett McCoy <idragosani@...>
> wrote:
>         On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Mr.SpOOn
>         <mr.spoon21@...> wrote:
>        
>         > I think the answer is no, because this would mean to
>         actually change
>         > the audio file. So, what is the best way to proceed? Shall I
>         export a
>         > selection of all regions and then import it again or shall I
>         work with
>         > all the regions splitted?
>        
>        
>         https://ardour.org/node/1234
>        
>         -- Brett
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[Christopher Stamper]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Axel Müller <axel-mueller-74@...> wrote:

Since quite a few releases there is the consolidate function: Use the
range tool to select the range you want to consolidate and then from
the context menu of that range click "consolidate range". A new audio
file will be rendered and the regions in that range will be replaced by
the new corresponding region.

In my experience, the consolidate function crashes Ardour about half of the time. So save first, until you find out if you're gonna have a crashing problem like me...

Anyone else have that prob BTW?

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[Mr.SpOOn]

2009/10/14 Axel Müller <axel-mueller-74@...>:
> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:41:21 -0400
> Since quite a few releases there is the consolidate function: Use the
> range tool to select the range you want to consolidate and then from
> the context menu of that range click "consolidate range". A new audio
> file will be rendered and the regions in that range will be replaced by
> the new corresponding region.

This seems what I am looking for, but I can't find where it is.
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[Christopher Stamper]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Mr.SpOOn <mr.spoon21@...> wrote:

2009/10/14 Axel Müller <axel-mueller-74@...>:

> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:41:21 -0400

> Since quite a few releases there is the consolidate function: Use the
> range tool to select the range you want to consolidate and then from
> the context menu of that range click "consolidate range". A new audio
> file will be rendered and the regions in that range will be replaced by
> the new corresponding region.

This seems what I am looking for, but I can't find where it is.

Right-click on the selected region, it should be in the popup menu.

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[Paul Winkler-2]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 04:38:11PM +0200, Mr.SpOOn wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm pretty new to Ardour so this may be a stupid question.
>
> I'm using Ardour to record a Podcast. Actually I recorded firts in
> Audacity, but now I'm trying to put all together here in Ardour.
> I need to edit different parts of the recording. Very often I need to
> reduce silence in the speech. To do this I use the "range" tool,
> select the silence I want to cut and then press "del". This creates
> two new regions. Now with the object tool I move the second region
> near the first one and then go on.

"splice" mode might make this task quicker...

> After doing this some times I have
> a lot of regions. Is there a way to join them all to have just one
> region?
>
> I think the answer is no, because this would mean to actually change
> the audio file. So, what is the best way to proceed? Shall I export a
> selection of all regions and then import it again or shall I work with
> all the regions splitted?

Not sure I understand why it matters.  Is there a reason you want one
region?

If you really need to, you can select a range, right-click and select
"bounce range to region list".  You can then drag the bounced region
from the region list into a track. This is probably quicker than doing
an export / import.

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[Christopher Stamper]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Paul Winkler <slinkp@...> wrote:
>
> If you really need to, you can select a range, right-click and select
> "bounce range to region list".  You can then drag the bounced region
> from the region list into a track. This is probably quicker than doing
> an export / import.

Like was mentioned before, the consolidate function is the best way to do this.

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[Paul Winkler-2]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 05:12:33PM +0200, Axel Müller wrote:
> Since quite a few releases there is the consolidate function: Use the
> range tool to select the range you want to consolidate and then from
> the context menu of that range click "consolidate range". A new audio
> file will be rendered and the regions in that range will be replaced by
> the new corresponding region.

Ah! I never noticed that. "Consolidate range" works nicely here in
Ardour 2.7.1.  Forget my previous message.  Thanks Axel!

- PW

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[Mr.SpOOn]

2009/10/14 Christopher Stamper <christopherstamper@...>:
>> 2009/10/14 Axel Müller <axel-mueller-74@...>:
>> > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:41:21 -0400
>> > Since quite a few releases there is the consolidate function
>>
>> This seems what I am looking for, but I can't find where it is.
>
> Right-click on the selected region, it should be in the popup menu.

Mmm, I have Ardour 2.3 (built from revision 3029) on Ubuntu Hardy
Heron. Maybe the consolidate function was implemented later.
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[Ralf Mardorf]

Mr.SpOOn wrote:
> Mmm, I have Ardour 2.3 (built from revision 3029) on Ubuntu Hardy
> Heron. Maybe the consolidate function was implemented later.

http://apt.64studio.com/backports hardy-backports main

2.8 Revision 4918
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