KDE 4.1.4 IPS packages for OSOL 2008.11

There are KDE 4.1.4 IPS packages for OSOL 2008.11 32-bit available now.
They're hosted on real hardware, not a dodgy VirtualBox, so you should be able
to get them this time instead of timing out at each attempt. It *is* my home
DSL, though, so downloads will not be fast.

In theory, you can do

T=bionicmutton
pkg set-authority -O http://pkg.$T.org:10000/ $T
pkg refresh $T
pkg install KDEgdm-integration

and get a KDE 4.1.4 desktop available upon login.

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[Michael Schuster - Sun Microsystems]

Adriaan de Groot wrote:

> There are KDE 4.1.4 IPS packages for OSOL 2008.11 32-bit available now.
> They're hosted on real hardware, not a dodgy VirtualBox, so you should be able
> to get them this time instead of timing out at each attempt. It *is* my home
> DSL, though, so downloads will not be fast.
>
> In theory, you can do
>
> T=bionicmutton
> pkg set-authority -O http://pkg.$T.org:10000/ $T
> pkg refresh $T
> pkg install KDEgdm-integration

testing as I write this. superb!

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[Michael Schuster - Sun Microsystems]

Adriaan de Groot wrote:

> There are KDE 4.1.4 IPS packages for OSOL 2008.11 32-bit available now.
> They're hosted on real hardware, not a dodgy VirtualBox, so you should be able
> to get them this time instead of timing out at each attempt. It *is* my home
> DSL, though, so downloads will not be fast.
>
> In theory, you can do
>
> T=bionicmutton
> pkg set-authority -O http://pkg.$T.org:10000/ $T
> pkg refresh $T
> pkg install KDEgdm-integration
>
> and get a KDE 4.1.4 desktop available upon login.

I installed it, but kde doesn't finish the login process, it crashes.

I've attached an .xsession-errors file from the 2nd attempt; the first is
significantly longer, but I can supply that as well, if requested.

thx
Michael
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/etc/X11/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
/etc/X11/gdm/Xsession: Setup done, will execute: /opt/kde-4.1/bin/startkde
startkde: Starting up...
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/klauncher
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/bin/kded4
kded(1217) /export/home/adridg/packages/BUILD/kdelibs-4.1.4/kdecore/localization/klocale.cpp(line number unavailable): Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1.
     2. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocalePrivate::KLocalePrivate(const QString&,KConfig*,const QString&,const QString&) 0x5c2 [0xfdaeb562]
     3. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale::KLocale #Nvariant 1(const QString&,KSharedPtr<KSharedConfig>) 0xd3 [0xfdaebaa3]
     4. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale*KGlobal::locale() 0xae [0xfd9e499e]
     5. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 void KApplicationPrivate::init(bool) 0x12e3 [0xfe120093]
     6. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 KApplication::KApplication(bool,const KComponentData&) 0x2ae [0xfe11e4ce]
     7. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 KUniqueApplication::KUniqueApplication(bool,bool) 0x59 [0xfe133e59]
     8. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeinit4_kded4.so kdemain 0x111f [0xfecd4c5f]
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/bin/kbuildsycoca4
kbuildsycoca4(1220) /export/home/adridg/packages/BUILD/kdelibs-4.1.4/kdecore/localization/klocale.cpp(line number unavailable): Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1.
     2. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocalePrivate::KLocalePrivate(const QString&,KConfig*,const QString&,const QString&) 0x5c2 [0xfdaeb562]
     3. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale::KLocale #Nvariant 1(const QString&,KSharedPtr<KSharedConfig>) 0xd3 [0xfdaebaa3]
     4. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale*KGlobal::locale() 0xae [0xfd9e499e]
     5. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 void KApplicationPrivate::init(bool) 0x12e3 [0xfe120093]
     6. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 KApplication::KApplication(bool) 0x2b6 [0xfe11d8a6]
     7. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeinit4_kbuildsycoca4.so kdemain 0x135c [0xfec6497c]
     8. /opt/kde-4.1/bin/kbuildsycoca4 main 0x13 [0x80510e3]
kbuildsycoca4 running...
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/kconf_update
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/bin/kcminit_startup
kcminit(1223) /export/home/adridg/packages/BUILD/kdelibs-4.1.4/kdecore/localization/klocale.cpp(line number unavailable): Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1.
     2. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocalePrivate::KLocalePrivate(const QString&,KConfig*,const QString&,const QString&) 0x5c2 [0xfe6eb562]
     3. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale::KLocale #Nvariant 1(const QString&,KSharedPtr<KSharedConfig>) 0xd3 [0xfe6ebaa3]
     4. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale*KGlobal::locale() 0xae [0xfe5e499e]
     5. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 void KApplicationPrivate::init(bool) 0x12e3 [0xfdf20093]
     6. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 KApplication::KApplication(bool) 0x2b6 [0xfdf1d8a6]
     7. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeinit4_kcminit_startup.so kdemain 0x4bb [0xfede6c27]
     8. /opt/kde-4.1/bin/kcminit_startup main 0x21 [0x8050dd1]
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/bin/ksmserver
ksmserver(1225) /export/home/adridg/packages/BUILD/kdelibs-4.1.4/kdecore/localization/klocale.cpp(line number unavailable): Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1.
     2. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocalePrivate::KLocalePrivate(const QString&,KConfig*,const QString&,const QString&) 0x5c2 [0xfe2eb562]
     3. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale::KLocale #Nvariant 1(const QString&,KSharedPtr<KSharedConfig>) 0xd3 [0xfe2ebaa3]
     4. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale*KGlobal::locale() 0xae [0xfe1e499e]
     5. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 void KApplicationPrivate::init(bool) 0x12e3 [0xfcd20093]
     6. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 KApplication::KApplication(_XDisplay*,unsigned long,unsigned long) 0x2b6 [0xfcd1dcc6]
     7. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeinit4_ksmserver.so kdemain 0x991 [0xfeda7885]
     8. /opt/kde-4.1/bin/ksmserver main 0x21 [0x8050dc1]
KCrash: Application 'ksmserver' crashing...
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi
QWidget: Must construct a QApplication before a QPaintDevice
     2. /opt/foss/lib/libQtGui.so.4.4.0 QWidget::QWidget(QWidget*,QFlags<Qt::WindowType>) 0x53 [0xfca895bb]
     3. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 KXMessages::KXMessages #Nvariant 1(const char*,QWidget*) 0x66 [0xfe03b726]
     4. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 bool KStartupInfo::sendFinish(const KStartupInfoId&) 0x6d [0xfdf5e38d]
     5. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi void KrashConfig::readConfig() 0xa42 [0x8060eba]
     6. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi KrashConfig::KrashConfig() 0x215 [0x805f9cd]
     7. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi main 0xc7d [0x805bce5]
     8. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi _start 0x7d [0x805af1d]
startkde: Shutting down...
klauncher: Exiting on signal 1
startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
startkde: Done.

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On Thursday 05 February 2009 23:25:51 Michael Schuster wrote:
> Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> > There are KDE 4.1.4 IPS packages for OSOL 2008.11 32-bit available now.
> > They're hosted on real hardware, not a dodgy VirtualBox, so you should be
> > able to get them this time instead of timing out at each attempt. It *is*
> > my home DSL, though, so downloads will not be fast.

The downloads (by others) are keeping my uplinked completely spanked.

> I installed it, but kde doesn't finish the login process, it crashes.
>
> I've attached an .xsession-errors file from the 2nd attempt; the first is
> significantly longer, but I can supply that as well, if requested.

Please try running some individual applications from within an X session (e.g.
/opt/kde-4.1/bin/konsole) to see how they behave. Please run startkde from a
failsafe session. Please get a backtrace of that crashing ksmserver.

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[Michael Schuster - Sun Microsystems]

On 02/05/09 23:56, Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> On Thursday 05 February 2009 23:25:51 Michael Schuster wrote:
>> Adriaan de Groot wrote:
>>> There are KDE 4.1.4 IPS packages for OSOL 2008.11 32-bit available now.
>>> They're hosted on real hardware, not a dodgy VirtualBox, so you should be
>>> able to get them this time instead of timing out at each attempt. It *is*
>>> my home DSL, though, so downloads will not be fast.
>
> The downloads (by others) are keeping my uplinked completely spanked.

sorry if I filled up the pipe, but I guess there's no other way of doing it
(yet, I hope).


> Please try running some individual applications from within an X session (e.g.
> /opt/kde-4.1/bin/konsole) to see how they behave.
$ /opt/kde-4.1/bin/konsole
Segmentation Fault (core dumped)

$ mdb /opt/kde-4.1/bin/konsole core
Loading modules: [ libuutil.so.1 ld.so.1 ]
 > $C
0804788c libkdeinit4_konsole.so`__1c2s6FrknHQdDString_c_1_+0x1e(80478b4, f,
7c, fed1a21a)
080478dc 0xfed1a274(fee002d8)
080478ec 0xfed1b17f(feffb7e4, fee002d8, f, 8047940, fefd1c8b, feef8b1c)
08047900 libkdeinit4_konsole.so`_init+0xe9(feef8b1c, fb4700e4, fb4700e8,
feffb350, 1,
feffb3b8)
08047940 ld.so.1`call_init+0x107(fb470018, 1, feffde60, 10)
08047bc0 ld.so.1`setup+0x148a(8047cfc, 8047d58, 0, 8047fdc, 1000, fefc0869)
08047ca0 ld.so.1`_setup+0x330(8047cb0, 3ead8, 3, 8047cf4, 4, 8047cfc)
08047cf0 ld.so.1`_rt_boot+0x56(0, 8047dd9, 8047de4, 8047df4, 8047e17, 8047e2a)
00000001 0x8047dc0()
 >

I can supply the core (57MB, uncompressed) to you, if you want me to (not
on the list, I don't think ;-)

 > Please run startkde from a
> failsafe session. Please get a backtrace of that crashing ksmserver.

see attached.

thx
Michael
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Script started on Fri Feb 06 08:08:33 2009
ms@paddy:~$ /opt/kde-4.1/bin/startkde
startkde: Starting up...
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/klauncher
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/bin/kded4
kded(1025) /export/home/adridg/packages/BUILD/kdelibs-4.1.4/kdecore/localization/klocale.cpp(line number unavailable): Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1.
     2. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocalePrivate::KLocalePrivate(const QString&,KConfig*,const QString&,const QString&) 0x5c2 [0xfdaeb562]
     3. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale::KLocale #Nvariant 1(const QString&,KSharedPtr<KSharedConfig>) 0xd3 [0xfdaebaa3]
     4. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale*KGlobal::locale() 0xae [0xfd9e499e]
     5. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 void KApplicationPrivate::init(bool) 0x12e3 [0xfe120093]
     6. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 KApplication::KApplication(bool,const KComponentData&) 0x2ae [0xfe11e4ce]
     7. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 KUniqueApplication::KUniqueApplication(bool,bool) 0x59 [0xfe133e59]
     8. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeinit4_kded4.so kdemain 0x111f [0xfecd4c5f]
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/bin/kbuildsycoca4
kbuildsycoca4(1028) /export/home/adridg/packages/BUILD/kdelibs-4.1.4/kdecore/localization/klocale.cpp(line number unavailable): Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1.
     2. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocalePrivate::KLocalePrivate(const QString&,KConfig*,const QString&,const QString&) 0x5c2 [0xfdaeb562]
     3. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale::KLocale #Nvariant 1(const QString&,KSharedPtr<KSharedConfig>) 0xd3 [0xfdaebaa3]
     4. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale*KGlobal::locale() 0xae [0xfd9e499e]
     5. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 void KApplicationPrivate::init(bool) 0x12e3 [0xfe120093]
     6. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 KApplication::KApplication(bool) 0x2b6 [0xfe11d8a6]
     7. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeinit4_kbuildsycoca4.so kdemain 0x135c [0xfec6497c]
     8. /opt/kde-4.1/bin/kbuildsycoca4 main 0x13 [0x80510e3]
kbuildsycoca4 running...
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/kconf_update
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/bin/kcminit_startup
kcminit(1031) /export/home/adridg/packages/BUILD/kdelibs-4.1.4/kdecore/localization/klocale.cpp(line number unavailable): Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1.
     2. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocalePrivate::KLocalePrivate(const QString&,KConfig*,const QString&,const QString&) 0x5c2 [0xfe6eb562]
     3. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale::KLocale #Nvariant 1(const QString&,KSharedPtr<KSharedConfig>) 0xd3 [0xfe6ebaa3]
     4. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale*KGlobal::locale() 0xae [0xfe5e499e]
     5. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 void KApplicationPrivate::init(bool) 0x12e3 [0xfdf20093]
     6. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 KApplication::KApplication(bool) 0x2b6 [0xfdf1d8a6]
     7. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeinit4_kcminit_startup.so kdemain 0x4bb [0xfede6c27]
     8. /opt/kde-4.1/bin/kcminit_startup main 0x21 [0x8050dd1]
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/bin/ksmserver
ksmserver(1033) /export/home/adridg/packages/BUILD/kdelibs-4.1.4/kdecore/localization/klocale.cpp(line number unavailable): Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1.
     2. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocalePrivate::KLocalePrivate(const QString&,KConfig*,const QString&,const QString&) 0x5c2 [0xfe2eb562]
     3. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale::KLocale #Nvariant 1(const QString&,KSharedPtr<KSharedConfig>) 0xd3 [0xfe2ebaa3]
     4. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0 KLocale*KGlobal::locale() 0xae [0xfe1e499e]
     5. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 void KApplicationPrivate::init(bool) 0x12e3 [0xfcd20093]
     6. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 KApplication::KApplication(_XDisplay*,unsigned long,unsigned long) 0x2b6 [0xfcd1dcc6]
     7. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeinit4_ksmserver.so kdemain 0x991 [0xfeda7885]
     8. /opt/kde-4.1/bin/ksmserver main 0x21 [0x8050dc1]
KCrash: Application 'ksmserver' crashing...
sock_file=/export/home/ms/.kde/socket-paddy/kdeinit4__0
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi
QWidget: Must construct a QApplication before a QPaintDevice
     2. /opt/foss/lib/libQtGui.so.4.4.0 QWidget::QWidget(QWidget*,QFlags<Qt::WindowType>) 0x53 [0xfca895bb]
     3. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 KXMessages::KXMessages #Nvariant 1(const char*,QWidget*) 0x66 [0xfe03b726]
     4. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/libkdeui.so.5.1.0 bool KStartupInfo::sendFinish(const KStartupInfoId&) 0x6d [0xfdf5e38d]
     5. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi void KrashConfig::readConfig() 0xa42 [0x8060eba]
     6. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi KrashConfig::KrashConfig() 0x215 [0x805f9cd]
     7. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi main 0xc7d [0x805bce5]
     8. /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi _start 0x7d [0x805af1d]
startkde: Shutting down...
klauncher: Exiting on signal 1
startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
startkde: Done.
ms@paddy:~$ exit

script done on Fri Feb 06 08:08:54 2009

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Hi Adriaan,

thanks for this and sorry for stressing your line.
I managed to install, login and run it for a while.
I'll give it some more time over the weekend hopefully.

hnhn

Adriaan de Groot wrote:

> There are KDE 4.1.4 IPS packages for OSOL 2008.11 32-bit available now.
> They're hosted on real hardware, not a dodgy VirtualBox, so you should be able
> to get them this time instead of timing out at each attempt. It *is* my home
> DSL, though, so downloads will not be fast.
>
> In theory, you can do
>
> T=bionicmutton
> pkg set-authority -O http://pkg.$T.org:10000/ $T
> pkg refresh $T
> pkg install KDEgdm-integration
>
> and get a KDE 4.1.4 desktop available upon login.
>
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[Michael Schuster - Sun Microsystems]

On 02/06/09 08:32, Jan Hnatek wrote:
> Hi Adriaan,
>
> thanks for this and sorry for stressing your line.
> I managed to install, login and run it for a while.
> I'll give it some more time over the weekend hopefully.

what build are you running this on?

I'm using 101b (2008.11, that is)
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Well, I updated to 106 from /dev yesterday,
just before pulling KDE. I was running on 105
for the last month.
Also, I had a couple of KDE packages already
in place from my attempts to build it (I think
FOSSqt and further up the dependency tree were pulled).

And I should probably add that I managed to break it nicely,
roughly like this:
- upgrade to 106
   reboot to opensolaris-3 (new zfs filesystem created by beadm)
   I used this for a day with no problem
- installed KDE
- ran KDE for a while
- tried to show a colleague one youtube video with KDE 4.2 demo
   tried fullscreen (slightly expecting it to break)
   which got me to a complete freeze
- when I rebooted, $HOME was not accessible...
so I got some recovery work to do. I'm using opensolaris-2 BE
now, which has 105.
It seems that KDE is still available from gdm,
but I can't risk trashing my work system. I'd like to know
what happened to zfs first. Any hints would be welcome.

Have a nice day
hnhn


Michael Schuster wrote:

> On 02/06/09 08:32, Jan Hnatek wrote:
>> Hi Adriaan,
>>
>> thanks for this and sorry for stressing your line.
>> I managed to install, login and run it for a while.
>> I'll give it some more time over the weekend hopefully.
>
> what build are you running this on?
>
> I'm using 101b (2008.11, that is)
> Michael

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On 02/06/09 08:55, Jan Hnatek wrote:

> Well, I updated to 106 from /dev yesterday,
> just before pulling KDE. I was running on 105
> for the last month.
> Also, I had a couple of KDE packages already
> in place from my attempts to build it (I think
> FOSSqt and further up the dependency tree were pulled).
>
> And I should probably add that I managed to break it nicely,
> roughly like this:
> - upgrade to 106
>   reboot to opensolaris-3 (new zfs filesystem created by beadm)
>   I used this for a day with no problem
> - installed KDE
> - ran KDE for a while
> - tried to show a colleague one youtube video with KDE 4.2 demo
>   tried fullscreen (slightly expecting it to break)
>   which got me to a complete freeze
> - when I rebooted, $HOME was not accessible...

I've seen similar things happen when I do sth like:

beadm mount <other BE> <mountpoint>
.. do something on <mountpoint>
reboot (without beadm umount!) into <other BE>

then the <other BE> doesn't have /opt mounted.

what I do to resolve is return to the initial BE, mount & umount the other
BE, reboot.

HTH
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Hi Michael, Adriaan,

thanks for the tip. It did help, but this solves the problem
without a reboot
# svcs -x
# svcadm clear nwam

I encountered the problem with unlocking the screen. Did you
figure out which binary needs suid? Adding +s to
/opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/kcheckpass didn't help.

There's a couple of other bugs, but otherwise I'm impressed.


Random list of problems I've seen:
- the "Updating System Configuration" dialog end in an endless loop
  (upon saving in Menu Editor or in panel icon modification)
- keyboard randomly locks and mouse behaves as if Alt is pressed
   this seems to happen only after the above one
- system activity window is not displaying any processes (Ctrl-Esc)
- nwam tray monitor is started multiple times

I had to enable "force fonts DPI" to 96 to have acceptable appearance in
most applications, just thunderbird could use an exception. I don't know
how to do this (normally layout.css.dpi), since it's being overriden by
KDE.

And this page
http://anojrs.blogspot.com/2008/01/disappearing-panel-in-kde-4.html
proved useful since I managed to remove the panel once.

Unfortunately, I only have limited amount of time to play with this
and investigate the issues. I was however thinking of creating a clone
from the repository, so that more people can try this and hopefully
help. What to you think?

Thanks & regards,
hnhn

Michael Schuster wrote:

> On 02/06/09 08:55, Jan Hnatek wrote:
>> Well, I updated to 106 from /dev yesterday,
>> just before pulling KDE. I was running on 105
>> for the last month.
>> Also, I had a couple of KDE packages already
>> in place from my attempts to build it (I think
>> FOSSqt and further up the dependency tree were pulled).
>>
>> And I should probably add that I managed to break it nicely,
>> roughly like this:
>> - upgrade to 106
>>   reboot to opensolaris-3 (new zfs filesystem created by beadm)
>>   I used this for a day with no problem
>> - installed KDE
>> - ran KDE for a while
>> - tried to show a colleague one youtube video with KDE 4.2 demo
>>   tried fullscreen (slightly expecting it to break)
>>   which got me to a complete freeze
>> - when I rebooted, $HOME was not accessible...
>
> I've seen similar things happen when I do sth like:
>
> beadm mount <other BE> <mountpoint>
> .. do something on <mountpoint>
> reboot (without beadm umount!) into <other BE>
>
> then the <other BE> doesn't have /opt mounted.
>
> what I do to resolve is return to the initial BE, mount & umount the
> other BE, reboot.
>
> HTH
> Michael

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[Michael Schuster - Sun Microsystems]

On 02/09/09 02:07, Jan Hnatek wrote:

> Hi Michael, Adriaan,
>
> thanks for the tip. It did help, but this solves the problem
> without a reboot
> # svcs -x
> # svcadm clear nwam
>
> I encountered the problem with unlocking the screen. Did you
> figure out which binary needs suid? Adding +s to
> /opt/kde-4.1/lib/kde4/libexec/kcheckpass didn't help.

I just use xlock for now ... a little lame, I know, but workable.

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[Michael Schuster - Sun Microsystems]

Adriaan de Groot wrote:

> There are KDE 4.1.4 IPS packages for OSOL 2008.11 32-bit available now.
> They're hosted on real hardware, not a dodgy VirtualBox, so you should be able
> to get them this time instead of timing out at each attempt. It *is* my home
> DSL, though, so downloads will not be fast.
>
> In theory, you can do
>
> T=bionicmutton
> pkg set-authority -O http://pkg.$T.org:10000/ $T
> pkg refresh $T
> pkg install KDEgdm-integration
>
> and get a KDE 4.1.4 desktop available upon login.

success!

on my recently acquired new Intel-based PC, which has never seen anything
KDE-like before and is now running OpenSolaris b106, I have installed and
am now using KDE from the IPS repository. I'm happy to report that I have
so far not seen an application crash, so this is by far the best experience
with KDE 4.x I've had so far.

Hurray.

Let me use the occasion to highlight a few things I noticed:

- KDE's screen lock still can't unlock (sometimes can't even lock) the
screen, but as I said elsewhere, xlock does the job just as well for me.

- I use two screens; when the mouse is in the second screen, I cannot get a
background menu with the right button, nor have I found a way to give it
non-black background (ie the same as on the primary screen). I can move
windows in to this screen quite easily though (I have an Nvidia 9600GT).

- I have a digital clock in the taskbar; sometimes, I can see only one
digit, the others disappear and I need to mouse-over to get them back.

- this is probably due to the paradigm shift that KDE4 seems to symbolise:
(in layman's terms) I used to be able to create an icon in my task bar
which would launch any application I chose, eg. xterm or firefox. I don't
seem to be able to figure out how to do this now. Help appreciated.

all in all, *very* nice!
Michael
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Michael Schuster wrote:

> - I use two screens; when the mouse is in the second screen, I cannot get a
> background menu with the right button, nor have I found a way to give it
> non-black background (ie the same as on the primary screen). I can move
> windows in to this screen quite easily though (I have an Nvidia 9600GT).

hmm ... this is interesting: I logged out and back in to test something -
indeed, as expected, KDE relaunched all applications I'd been running when
I logged out (what a super feature ;-), one of them on the second screen,
which now suddenly sports a background and the ability for me to get a menu
  in the background window.

something else I miss from 3.5.7:
- the ability to use the middle mouse button in a root window to get the
window list (in all workspaces)
- the ability to use the mouse wheel in the root windwo to move between
workspaces. this only seems to work in the workspace switcher itself.

again, hints etc. appreciated.
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On Friday 13 February 2009 07:24:26 am Michael Schuster wrote:
> Hurray.

<party hats/> Your curse is broken!

I'd suggest you file bugs at bugs.kde.org for the issues you find; set the OS
to Solaris. Some of them -- MMB on the background -- are feature requests /
generic, others like kded locking up are Solaris-specific.

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On 02/05/09 08:26, Adriaan de Groot wrote:

> There are KDE 4.1.4 IPS packages for OSOL 2008.11 32-bit available now.
> They're hosted on real hardware, not a dodgy VirtualBox, so you should be able
> to get them this time instead of timing out at each attempt. It *is* my home
> DSL, though, so downloads will not be fast.
>
> In theory, you can do
>
> T=bionicmutton
> pkg set-authority -O http://pkg.$T.org:10000/ $T
> pkg refresh $T
> pkg install KDEgdm-integration
>
> and get a KDE 4.1.4 desktop available upon login.

I managed a successful installation on another test box I have sitting
around here (a U20, running b106); I have a few issues esp around
performance which I may have reported previously, but I don't think they're
KDE-specific.

question: is it possible that configuration and installation turds from
previous attempts at running KDE can cause some of the grief I've been
seeing (esp. on my laptop)? If so, I'd welcome input as to which files you
believe I need to (re)move to clean the slate ...

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Michael Schuster napsal(a):
> [..]
> - this is probably due to the paradigm shift that KDE4 seems to symbolise:
> (in layman's terms) I used to be able to create an icon in my task bar
> which would launch any application I chose, eg. xterm or firefox. I don't
> seem to be able to figure out how to do this now. Help appreciated.

Afaik, normally you can use menu editor for this:
- right-click on the menu icon
- select "Menu Editor" or likewise /I have it czech atm/
- create a new entry in any category
- enter name&binary to launch
- save
Now this is where I hit the "updating system configuration" looping
problem - the progress bar resets at about 90%, I have to close the
dialog manually and further behavior is often incorrect.

If the saving went ok, then you should be able to pick this
new entry as application to be placed on the panel.

hnhn

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[Shawn Walker-3]

Michael Schuster wrote:

> Adriaan de Groot wrote:
>> There are KDE 4.1.4 IPS packages for OSOL 2008.11 32-bit available now.
>> They're hosted on real hardware, not a dodgy VirtualBox, so you should be able
>> to get them this time instead of timing out at each attempt. It *is* my home
>> DSL, though, so downloads will not be fast.
>>
>> In theory, you can do
>>
>> T=bionicmutton
>> pkg set-authority -O http://pkg.$T.org:10000/ $T
>> pkg refresh $T
>> pkg install KDEgdm-integration
>>
>> and get a KDE 4.1.4 desktop available upon login.
>
> success!
>
> on my recently acquired new Intel-based PC, which has never seen anything
> KDE-like before and is now running OpenSolaris b106, I have installed and
> am now using KDE from the IPS repository. I'm happy to report that I have
> so far not seen an application crash, so this is by far the best experience
> with KDE 4.x I've had so far.
>
> Hurray.
>
> Let me use the occasion to highlight a few things I noticed:
>
> - KDE's screen lock still can't unlock (sometimes can't even lock) the
> screen, but as I said elsewhere, xlock does the job just as well for me.
>
> - I use two screens; when the mouse is in the second screen, I cannot get a
> background menu with the right button, nor have I found a way to give it
> non-black background (ie the same as on the primary screen). I can move
> windows in to this screen quite easily though (I have an Nvidia 9600GT).
>
> - I have a digital clock in the taskbar; sometimes, I can see only one
> digit, the others disappear and I need to mouse-over to get them back.
>
> - this is probably due to the paradigm shift that KDE4 seems to symbolise:
> (in layman's terms) I used to be able to create an icon in my task bar
> which would launch any application I chose, eg. xterm or firefox. I don't
> seem to be able to figure out how to do this now. Help appreciated.
>
> all in all, *very* nice!

I've tried it as well.  Seems to work alright, although for some bizarre
reason, DNS resolution seems painfully slow in Konqueror.

The integration seems spot on, nice work.

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On Monday 16 February 2009 09:10:17 pm Shawn Walker wrote:
> Michael Schuster wrote:
> > Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> >> There are KDE 4.1.4 IPS packages for OSOL 2008.11 32-bit available now.
> >> They're hosted on real hardware, not a dodgy VirtualBox, so you should
> >> be able to get them this time instead of timing out at each attempt. It
> >> *is* my home DSL, though, so downloads will not be fast.

They continue to update intermittently; I think it's safe to say that KDE
4.1.4 is the goal right now and once we can safely ship it (for some
definition of safe) for S10 and OSOL, *then* we will turn our attention to KDE
4.2 -- roughly as I described in earlier mail, because KDE 4.2 has some real
dependency issues on OSOL 2008.11.

> > - KDE's screen lock still can't unlock (sometimes can't even lock) the
> > screen, but as I said elsewhere, xlock does the job just as well for me.

This requires someone to get medieval on either kdesktop_lock or kcheckpass
and figure out where the communication is falling apart. Make sure there's a
bug filed for it; that makes planning much easier (and in the hypothetical
situation of Sun throwing some engineers at a problem, is a good starting
point for their work).

> > - I use two screens; when the mouse is in the second screen, I cannot get
> > a background menu with the right button, nor have I found a way to give
> > it non-black background (ie the same as on the primary screen). I can
> > move windows in to this screen quite easily though (I have an Nvidia
> > 9600GT).

Xinerama or multiple-screen support is sometihng that might only have happened
well in the KDE 4.2 timeframe. Again, not something I test at home, so it
needs bugs filed and some effort from elsewhere.

> I've tried it as well.  Seems to work alright, although for some bizarre
> reason, DNS resolution seems painfully slow in Konqueror.

Odd. Any chance of dtracing it?

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Hi Shawn,

I think you want to # pkg install SUNWlang-en-extra
as a workaround.

Regards,
hnhn

Shawn Walker wrote:

> I did have a mystery about why $LANG is always set to en_US instead of
> en_US.UTF-8 when I login, which is causing issues.  I've already tried
> setting language in the system settings panel.
>
> However, I just discovered that was on purpose:
>
> /opt/kde-4.1/bin/startkde:
> ...
> test -n "$LANG" && LANG=`basename "$LANG" ".UTF-8"`
>
> That's not going to work very well.  It causes any terminal programs I
> start to complain about a non-existent locale (which is correct since
> en_US as $LANG is bogus).
>

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[Michael Schuster - Sun Microsystems]

On 02/17/09 04:49, Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> On Monday 16 February 2009 09:10:17 pm Shawn Walker wrote:
>> Michael Schuster wrote:

>>> - I use two screens; when the mouse is in the second screen, I cannot get
>>> a background menu with the right button, nor have I found a way to give
>>> it non-black background (ie the same as on the primary screen). I can
>>> move windows in to this screen quite easily though (I have an Nvidia
>>> 9600GT).
>
> Xinerama or multiple-screen support is sometihng that might only have happened
> well in the KDE 4.2 timeframe. Again, not something I test at home, so it
> needs bugs filed and some effort from elsewhere.

Ever since I installed Stefan's 3.4.3(?) quite a few year's ago I've been
running dual-headed or Xinerama'd. Never had any issues until now.

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