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Re: Some Knop 9 releases

2009-11-26T05:43:02Z

Fantastic contributions! It's lovely to see this moving forward without moving a finger.

At 23.33 +1000 2009-11-26, Jolle Carlestam wrote:

>Hello!
>
>I committed the first Lasso 9 adjusted Knop types to http://code.google.com/p/knop/source/browse/#svn/branches/knop9rewrite moments ago.
>
>It's three files
>knop_lang.lasso
>knop_cache.lasso
>knop_utils.lasso
>
>These are types and methods written specifically for Lasso 9 taking advantage of the 9 specific features.
>
>The first should have all functions found in the real Knop_lang type
>The second contains the caching types Knop uses. There's one new type that uses Lasso 9 threading instead of global vars.
>The third contains
>knop_foundrows Not working yet pending bug fixes for string_replaceregexp.
>knop_timer
>knop_IDcrypt Probably not compatible with encrypted material created with Lasso pre 9 due to differences in Blowfish.
>knop_seed Not finished pending how to replace __lassoservice_ip__
>knop_stripbackticks
>knop_unique Can probably be ditched since Lasso 9s lasso_unique is safe enough
>
>The code is to be considered alpha or beta. It's working in my environment but I've not been able to do any extensive testing on them.
>
>It's possible that the lang type uses my adjusted array comparing code. In so it won't work outside my setup. But that's easy to find out. :-)
>
>If you have time to test please do.
>
>HDB
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Some Knop 9 releases

2009-11-26T05:33:59Z

Hello!

I committed the first Lasso 9 adjusted Knop types to http://code.google.com/p/knop/source/browse/#svn/branches/knop9rewrite moments ago.

It's three files
knop_lang.lasso
knop_cache.lasso
knop_utils.lasso

These are types and methods written specifically for Lasso 9 taking advantage of the 9 specific features.

The first should have all functions found in the real Knop_lang type
The second contains the caching types Knop uses. There's one new type that uses Lasso 9 threading instead of global vars.
The third contains
knop_foundrows Not working yet pending bug fixes for string_replaceregexp.
knop_timer
knop_IDcrypt Probably not compatible with encrypted material created with Lasso pre 9 due to differences in Blowfish.
knop_seed Not finished pending how to replace __lassoservice_ip__
knop_stripbackticks
knop_unique Can probably be ditched since Lasso 9s lasso_unique is safe enough

The code is to be considered alpha or beta. It's working in my environment but I've not been able to do any extensive testing on them.

It's possible that the lang type uses my adjusted array comparing code. In so it won't work outside my setup. But that's easy to find out. :-)

If you have time to test please do.

HDB
Jolle

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Re: Knop lang for nine

2009-11-23T15:00:05Z

I've added a branch "knop9rewrite" on the SVN. Please add your work there.

At 19.09 +1000 2009-11-23, Jolle Carlestam wrote:

>I've fiddled together a version of the knop_lang object thats directly adopted for Lasso 9. It's working in my setup but it needs to be exposed to real life situations.
>
>It doesn't do caching for the moment. And I've also excluded timer and debugging features.
>
>I'm attaching it for evaluation. Wouldn't mind some test cases that I can throw at it to harden it.
>
>HDB
>Jolle
>
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Re: Knop lang for nine

2009-11-23T01:55:56Z

Thanks for the contribution!

My own work with a Lasso 9 version has stopped for a while, partly due to lack of feedback to my questions on the Lasso 9 list.

At 19.09 +1000 2009-11-23, Jolle Carlestam wrote:

Knop lang for nine

2009-11-23T01:09:19Z

I've fiddled together a version of the knop_lang object thats directly adopted for Lasso 9. It's working in my setup but it needs to be exposed to real life situations.

It doesn't do caching for the moment. And I've also excluded timer and debugging features.

I'm attaching it for evaluation. Wouldn't mind some test cases that I can throw at it to harden it.

HDB
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Re: Error in new version

2009-11-21T15:09:49Z

I think I found a lead to this issue.

The functionality breaks between versions 105 and 109 in
knop.lasso. I ran a diff on the whole file, and started
commenting out chunks of code until I isolated the culprit,
between lines 6825 and 6837:

iterate: #except, (local: 'param');
#params -> (removeall: #param);
/iterate;

<snip>

if: #params >> '-keyvalue';
#url += (#params -> (find: '-keyvalue') -> first ->
value) + '/';
#params -> (removeall: '-keyvalue');
/if;

When I comment out those two chunks, I get the link in the grid
as follows:

http://foo.com/admin/?customers/edit/&-keyvalue=%23%23%23keyvalue%23%23%23

or in English:

http://foo.com/admin/?customers/edit/?&-keyvalue=###keyvalue###

Does that help narrow down the issue at all?

--steve

On 10/29/09 at 7:14 PM, cl@... (Conny Larsson) pronounced:

>I recognize some of this to but my memory is not with me today.
>No time now but I look at it later if I found any notes in my
>SVN commits.
>
>/C
>
>29 okt 2009 kl. 15.09 skrev Johan Solve:
>
>>I recognize this and I'm pretty sure this was discovered and
>>fixed fairly recently, although I can't find any trace of that now.
>>
>>Conny do you recall more details?
>>
>>At 07.29 -0700 2009-10-29, Steve Piercy wrote:
>>>I've been getting the same error now on LP8.5 with the latest
>>>version of
>>>Knop:
>>>
>>>No tag, type or constant was defined under the name
>>>pair->removeall with
>>>arguments: array: (-path)
>>>at: url with params: -path='discounts/edit', '-keyvalue'='###keyvalue###',
>>>-autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
>>>at: renderlisting with params: -inlinename=@'', -xhtml=false
>>>at: renderhtml
>>>at: /admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc on line: 2 at position: 11
>>>at: include with params: '/admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc'
>>>at: include with params: 'content'
>>>at: /admin/index.lhtml with params: 'discounts/list/' on line: 79 at
>>>position: 10
>>>Error Code: -9948
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Here is what I suspect:
>>>
>>> define_tag: 'renderlisting', -description='Outputs just
>>>the actual record
>>>listing. Is called by renderhtml. \
>>>
>>><snip>
>>> #field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> (url: -path=#url,
>>> #keyparamname='###keyvalue###',
>>> -autoparams,
>>> -except=(array: -path))));
>>>
>>>
>>>I suspect the -except parameter is the pair->removeall demon.
>>>
>>>--steve
>>>
>>>
>>>Johan Solve-2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Bummer, I can't find anywhere in nav->url where a
>>>>pair->removeall could
>>>>happen.
>>>>
>>>>Could you test this with the L8 branch as well?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 14.28 +0200 2009-10-12, Johan Solve wrote:
>>>>>The syntax error is in the ->url member tag. You quoted the
>>>>>code that
>>>calls the url tag.
>>>>>
>>>>>Btw Steve, the '-keyvalue' string comes from using a dynamic parameter
>>>name #keyparamname. I don't want to think about if that's
>>>even possible in
>>>nine yet...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>At 22.53 +0200 2009-10-08, Jolle Carlestam wrote:
>>>>>>I get an error when trying to display a grid. It's when
>>>>>>trying the new
>>>(ninefied version).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This error pops up:
>>>>>>No tag, type or constant was defined under the name
>>>>>>pair->removeall with
>>>>>arguments: array: (-path)
>>>>>>at: url with params: -path='images/imageedit',
>>>'-keyvalue'='###keyvalue###', -autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And I've tracked to this code piece (I think):
>>>>>> if(#nav -> isa('nav'));
>>>>>> iterate(#fields, #field);
>>>>>> if((#field -> find('url')) != '');
>>>>>> #url = (#field -> find('url'));
>>>>>> #keyparamname = (#field -> find('keyparamname'));
>>>>>> #field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> url(-path = #url,
>>>>>> #keyparamname = '###keyvalue###',
>>>>>> -autoparams,
>>>>>> -except = array('-path'))));
>>>>>> /if;
>>>>>> /iterate;
>>>>>> /if;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>For the life of me I don't know what to change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>HDB
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Re: Error in form select option when using comma

2009-11-21T13:27:24Z

On 11/21/09 at 10:05 PM, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve) pronounced:

>At 12.20 -0800 2009-11-21, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>>Why not use a join on the named parameter values and store the resulting value in a
>varchar column type?
>
>The best solution here might be a new optional parameter
>-optionsdelimiter when creating a form object. This would be
>used for ->loadfields and ->updatefields instead of the default
>delimiters for FM and other datasources.

Brilliant! I also did a check on FM:

action_statement:
/fmi/xml/FMPXMLRESULT.xml?-db=db&-lay=lay&mycheckbox=check1&mycheckbox=check2&mycheckbox=check3&mycheckbox=check1&-new

Values in mycheckbox:
check1
check2
check3
check1
(separated by \r, no trailing \r)

--steve

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Re: Error in form select option when using comma

2009-11-21T13:05:53Z

At 12.20 -0800 2009-11-21, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>Why not use a join on the named parameter values and store the resulting value in a varchar column type?

The best solution here might be a new optional parameter -optionsdelimiter when creating a form object. This would be used for ->loadfields and ->updatefields instead of the default delimiters for FM and other datasources.

>Yes. That's what I wanted to clarify. Furthermore, the Lasso set type is different from MySQL's because Lasso's set elements can include commas. And poor old FM has only text fields with value lists. Ugh!

The Lasso Set data type has absolutely nothing to do with the MySQL SET data type. They share their name but that is a pure coincidence as far as I can tell.

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Re: Error in form select option when using comma

2009-11-21T12:20:43Z

On 11/21/09 at 8:27 PM, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve) pronounced:

>inline(...
>'mycheckbox'='check1',
>'mycheckbox'='check2',
>'mycheckbox'='check3',
>'mycheckbox'='check1', // modified
>-add);
>/inline;

action_statement; =>
INSERT INTO db.table (`mycheckbox`) VALUES ('check1,check2,check3,check1')

Okay, now I see what you are doing.

Why not use a join on the named parameter values and store the
resulting value in a varchar column type? Assuming the form
field is a checkbox:

local('cb') = action_param('checkbox')->split('\r');
#cb = #cb->join('|,|');

inline(...
'mycheckbox'=#cb,
-add);
/inline;

Then do the reverse when pulling data from a database column:

field('mycheckbox')->split('|,|');

That would preserve commas within submitted values. Of course
that removes a few advantages of a set column type.

Perhaps a flag within Knop would allow the developer to choose
which MySQL column type to use. Or even more useful and
potentially less prone to mistakes would be to have Knop
auto-detect whether the column type is a set, then use either
the existing method, else use the one I describe above. What do
you think?

>>Also can you clarify the context you mean for "set" in MySQL? There are data types
>and column types (and many other terms) in MySQL that are named "set".
>
>Data types and column types are the same thing in MySQL, aren't they?
>
>http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/set.html
>http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/mysql-set-datatype.html
>
>In any case, I'm not talking about the SET verb used in UPDATE,
>nor am I talking about character SET.

Yes. That's what I wanted to clarify. Furthermore, the Lasso
set type is different from MySQL's because Lasso's set elements
can include commas. And poor old FM has only text fields with
value lists. Ugh!

--steve

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Re: Error in form select option when using comma

2009-11-21T11:27:14Z

At 06.15 -0800 2009-11-21, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:

>I did this test:
>
>Form, with all items checked:
><input name="checkbox" type="checkbox" value="1">
><input name="checkbox" type="checkbox" value="2">
><input name="checkbox" type="checkbox" value="3">
><input name="checkbox" type="checkbox" value="1">
>
>Response:
>action_param('checkbox');
>=>
>1
>2
>3
>1
>
>The values are returned separated by \r, not a comma. So I'm confused by how you use the term "set" for Lasso. The data type returned is a string or an array of pairs, not a set.

Try the inline I posted earlier in this thread and see how it gets stored in MySQL.

inline(...
'mycheckbox'='check1',
'mycheckbox'='check2',
'mycheckbox'='check3',
-add);
/inline;

>Also can you clarify the context you mean for "set" in MySQL? There are data types and column types (and many other terms) in MySQL that are named "set".

Data types and column types are the same thing in MySQL, aren't they?

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/set.html
http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/mysql-set-datatype.html

In any case, I'm not talking about the SET verb used in UPDATE, nor am I talking about character SET.

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Re: Error in form select option when using comma

2009-11-21T06:15:42Z

On 11/21/09 at 5:51 AM, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web
Site Builder) pronounced:

>On 11/21/09 at 11:13 AM, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve) pronounced:
>
>>At 09.35 +1000 2009-11-21, Jolle Carlestam wrote:
>>>That was really odd. Why not store with line feed as separator? I can come up with
>>a number of valid cases where a value list can contain comma in the values.
>>
>>Me too, but this is not a Knop invention. Sure, we could use
>>any separator we like, but then we're not compatible with how
>>Lasso usually does it or how MySQL SETs are manipulated.
>
>Although we have no control over the convention of the
>separator used, we could control the encapsulator.
>
>|value1|,|value2|,...,|valueN|
>
>Knop could store multi-select values encapsulated with a
>string, remove the first and last encapsulation strings then
>use ->split('encapsulator,encapsulator'). Alternatively, omit
>the first and last encapsulators.

I did this test:

Form, with all items checked:
<input name="checkbox" type="checkbox" value="1">
<input name="checkbox" type="checkbox" value="2">
<input name="checkbox" type="checkbox" value="3">
<input name="checkbox" type="checkbox" value="1">

Response:
action_param('checkbox');
=>
1
2
3
1

The values are returned separated by \r, not a comma. So I'm
confused by how you use the term "set" for Lasso. The data type
returned is a string or an array of pairs, not a set.

Also can you clarify the context you mean for "set" in MySQL?
There are data types and column types (and many other terms) in
MySQL that are named "set".

--steve

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Re: Error in form select option when using comma

2009-11-21T05:51:41Z

On 11/21/09 at 11:13 AM, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve) pronounced:

>At 09.35 +1000 2009-11-21, Jolle Carlestam wrote:
>>That was really odd. Why not store with line feed as separator? I can come up with
>a number of valid cases where a value list can contain comma in the values.
>
>Me too, but this is not a Knop invention. Sure, we could use
>any separator we like, but then we're not compatible with how
>Lasso usually does it or how MySQL SETs are manipulated.

Although we have no control over the convention of the separator
used, we could control the encapsulator.

|value1|,|value2|,...,|valueN|

Knop could store multi-select values encapsulated with a string,
remove the first and last encapsulation strings then use
->split('encapsulator,encapsulator'). Alternatively, omit the
first and last encapsulators.

--steve

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Re: Error in form select option when using comma

2009-11-21T02:13:39Z

At 09.35 +1000 2009-11-21, Jolle Carlestam wrote:
>That was really odd. Why not store with line feed as separator? I can come up with a number of valid cases where a value list can contain comma in the values.

Me too, but this is not a Knop invention. Sure, we could use any separator we like, but then we're not compatible with how Lasso usually does it or how MySQL SETs are manipulated.

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Re: Error in form select option when using comma

2009-11-20T15:35:26Z

21 nov 2009 kl. 08.56 skrev Johan Solve:

> At 08.28 +1000 2009-11-21, Jolle Carlestam wrote:
>> Why it needs to split on comma I don't know so I don't dare tamper with it. But it's rather inconvenient. I can think of a number of occasions where a list containing comma separated values is relevant.
>
> This is how Lasso stores multiple checkbox values of the same name in MySQL, be it a varchar field or a SET.
> So an inline like this
> inline(...
> 'mycheckbox'='check1',
> 'mycheckbox'='check2',
> 'mycheckbox'='check3',
> -add);
> /inline;
>
> will be stored like this in mycheckbox in mysql
> check1,check2,check3
>
> So when reading those values and populating checkboxes for them, we need to split on ',' to make it match.
>
> It's not cute but this is how it works.
>
> If you find a good workaround for this then I'm all ears.

That was really odd. Why not store with line feed as separator? I can come up with a number of valid cases where a value list can contain comma in the values.
Movie titles: "Patrik 1,5"
The problem case: "1 st 16A, 400V"
Numbers: "1,5"

Where I can't come up with any example where the list would have line feeds.

HDB
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Re: Error in form select option when using comma

2009-11-20T14:56:45Z

At 08.28 +1000 2009-11-21, Jolle Carlestam wrote:
>Why it needs to split on comma I don't know so I don't dare tamper with it. But it's rather inconvenient. I can think of a number of occasions where a list containing comma separated values is relevant.

This is how Lasso stores multiple checkbox values of the same name in MySQL, be it a varchar field or a SET.
So an inline like this
inline(...
'mycheckbox'='check1',
'mycheckbox'='check2',
'mycheckbox'='check3',
-add);
/inline;

will be stored like this in mycheckbox in mysql
check1,check2,check3

So when reading those values and populating checkboxes for them, we need to split on ',' to make it match.

It's not cute but this is how it works.

If you find a good workaround for this then I'm all ears.

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Error in form select option when using comma

2009-11-20T14:28:25Z

I've stumbled on (and got tripped by) an undesired behavior on Knop form when using select fields and option lists.

The resulting option list does not find the correct field value to attached selected="selected" if the field and the corresponding option list item contains a comma ",".

It is probably related to this part of the Knop form code:
if: #fieldvalue_array -> type != 'array';
if: #fieldvalue_array >> '\r'; // Filemaker value list with multiple checked
#fieldvalue_array = #fieldvalue_array -> (split: '\r');
else: #fieldvalue_array >> ','; // Other database with multiple checked
#fieldvalue_array = #fieldvalue_array -> (split: ',');
else;
#fieldvalue_array = array: #fieldvalue_array;
/if;
/if;

Why it needs to split on comma I don't know so I don't dare tamper with it. But it's rather inconvenient. I can think of a number of occasions where a list containing comma separated values is relevant.

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Re: Knop form questions

2009-11-03T15:55:04Z

beautiful stuff.

On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Johan Solve wrote:

> At 13.01 -0700 2009-11-03, Brian Loomis wrote:
>> 2) It looks like there may be several points where the output could
>> be adjusted to wrap the forms pieces in <li></li> instead of the
>> <br />.
>> Is anyone doing this yet?
>
> As you probably already know you can specify a template for the form
> with the -template parameter, either when creating the form object
> or using the ->setformat tag afterwards.
>
> The default template looks like this
> #label# #field##required#<br>
>
> So I guess you would use a template string like this
> <li>#label# #field##required#</li>
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Re: Knop form questions

2009-11-03T15:51:15Z

At 13.01 -0700 2009-11-03, Brian Loomis wrote:
>2) It looks like there may be several points where the output could be adjusted to wrap the forms pieces in <li></li> instead of the <br />.
>Is anyone doing this yet?

As you probably already know you can specify a template for the form with the -template parameter, either when creating the form object or using the ->setformat tag afterwards.

The default template looks like this
#label# #field##required#<br>

So I guess you would use a template string like this
<li>#label# #field##required#</li>

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Re: Knop form questions

2009-11-03T15:44:53Z

At 12.58 -0800 2009-11-03, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>On 11/3/09 at 1:01 PM, brianloomis1@... (Brian Loomis) pronounced:
>
>>I'm messing around with knop form this morning and have some questions.
>>
>>1) Is is possible using this: [$form -> renderform( -xhtml=true)] to get the form pieces to follow any other format than the <br /> delimited format? For example, I'd like to continue to use forms inside of 960 grids so I have control over the spacing precisely.
>
>Yup.
>
>$f->renderform(-from=x,-to=y); // where x and y are the starting and ending index values of form objects in the config file.

-from and -to can also take names.

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Re: Knop form questions

2009-11-03T12:58:33Z

On 11/3/09 at 1:01 PM, brianloomis1@... (Brian Loomis) pronounced:

>I'm messing around with knop form this morning and have some questions.
>
>1) Is is possible using this: [$form -> renderform(
>-xhtml=true)] to get the form pieces to follow any other
>format than the <br /> delimited format? For example, I'd like
>to continue to use forms inside of 960 grids so I have control
>over the spacing precisely.

Yup.

$f->renderform(-from=x,-to=y); // where x and y are the starting
and ending index values of form objects in the config file.

or

$f->renderform(-name='name');

>2) It looks like there may be several points where the output
>could be adjusted to wrap the forms pieces in <li></li> instead
>of the <br />. Is anyone doing this yet?

Yup. Using an iterate for example:

<ul>
[
iterate(array('field1','field2',...,'fieldN'), local('i'));
'<li>' + $f->renderform(-name='name') + '</li>';
iterate;
]
</ul>

You can also use string string_replace on
$f->renderform(-name='name') to modify the output.

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Re: Knop form questions

2009-11-03T12:03:06Z

I guess to be more clear, can you use an HTML template and render each
component separately inside of unque areas? Spans or divs' for example?

On Nov 3, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Brian Loomis wrote:

> 1) Is is possible using this: [$form -> renderform( -xhtml=true)]
> to get the form pieces to follow any other format than the <br />
> delimited format? For example, I'd like to continue to use forms
> inside of 960 grids so I have control over the spacing precisely.

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Knop form questions

2009-11-03T12:01:03Z

I'm messing around with knop form this morning and have some questions.

1) Is is possible using this: [$form -> renderform( -xhtml=true)] to
get the form pieces to follow any other format than the <br />
delimited format? For example, I'd like to continue to use forms
inside of 960 grids so I have control over the spacing precisely.

2) It looks like there may be several points where the output could be
adjusted to wrap the forms pieces in <li></li> instead of the <br />.
Is anyone doing this yet?

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Re: Delete Record issue with clearlocks

2009-10-29T19:48:48Z

Commenting out this line in /_library/lib_advanced_list.inc
removes the error when deleting the record.

$s_user -> clearlocks;

So to prevent the issue when deleting a record with locks,
either Knop should check for the existence of the record OR the
developer needs to wrap it with a conditional:

if(action_param('deletebutton') != '');
$s_user -> clearlocks;
/if;

Or maybe I'm misunderstand something fundamental to how Knop works.

--steve

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>In the Knop demo files, when one tries to delete a record in
>the Customers Advanced section:
>
>No tag, type or constant was defined under the name string->clearlocks.
>at: /_library/lib_advanced_list.inc on line: 34 at position: 13
>at: include with params: '/_library/lib_advanced_list.inc'
>at: include with params: 'library'
>at: /index.lasso on line: 42 at position: 10
>at: include with params: '/index.lasso'
>at: /urlhandler.inc on line: 13 at position: 20
>at: include with params: '/urlhandler.inc'
>at: _at_begin
>Error Code: -9948
>
>This is the June 27, 2009 version.
>
>It's as if the user type is not really a type, but a string???
>
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Re: Error in new version

2009-10-29T11:14:13Z

I recognize some of this to but my memory is not with me today. No
time now but I look at it later if I found any notes in my SVN commits.

/C

29 okt 2009 kl. 15.09 skrev Johan Solve:

> I recognize this and I'm pretty sure this was discovered and fixed
> fairly recently, although I can't find any trace of that now.
>
> Conny do you recall more details?
>
> At 07.29 -0700 2009-10-29, Steve Piercy wrote:
>> I've been getting the same error now on LP8.5 with the latest
>> version of
>> Knop:
>>
>> No tag, type or constant was defined under the name pair->removeall
>> with
>> arguments: array: (-path)
>> at: url with params: -path='discounts/edit', '-
>> keyvalue'='###keyvalue###',
>> -autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
>> at: renderlisting with params: -inlinename=@'', -xhtml=false
>> at: renderhtml
>> at: /admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc on line: 2 at position: 11
>> at: include with params: '/admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc'
>> at: include with params: 'content'
>> at: /admin/index.lhtml with params: 'discounts/list/' on line: 79 at
>> position: 10
>> Error Code: -9948
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is what I suspect:
>>
>> define_tag: 'renderlisting', -description='Outputs just the actual
>> record
>> listing. Is called by renderhtml. \
>>
>> <snip>
>> #field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> (url: -path=#url,
>> #keyparamname='###keyvalue###',
>> -autoparams,
>> -except=(array: -path))));
>>
>>
>> I suspect the -except parameter is the pair->removeall demon.
>>
>> --steve
>>
>>
>> Johan Solve-2 wrote:
>>>
>>> Bummer, I can't find anywhere in nav->url where a pair->removeall
>>> could
>>> happen.
>>>
>>> Could you test this with the L8 branch as well?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 14.28 +0200 2009-10-12, Johan Solve wrote:
>>>> The syntax error is in the ->url member tag. You quoted the code
>>>> that
>> calls the url tag.
>>>>
>>>> Btw Steve, the '-keyvalue' string comes from using a dynamic
>>>> parameter
>> name #keyparamname. I don't want to think about if that's even
>> possible in
>> nine yet...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 22.53 +0200 2009-10-08, Jolle Carlestam wrote:
>>>>> I get an error when trying to display a grid. It's when trying
>>>>> the new
>> (ninefied version).
>>>>>
>>>>> This error pops up:
>>>>> No tag, type or constant was defined under the name pair-
>>>>> >removeall with
>>>> arguments: array: (-path)
>>>>> at: url with params: -path='images/imageedit',
>> '-keyvalue'='###keyvalue###', -autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
>>>>>
>>>>> And I've tracked to this code piece (I think):
>>>>> if(#nav -> isa('nav'));
>>>>> iterate(#fields, #field);
>>>>> if((#field -> find('url')) != '');
>>>>> #url = (#field -> find('url'));
>>>>> #keyparamname = (#field -> find('keyparamname'));
>>>>> #field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> url(-path = #url,
>>>>> #keyparamname = '###keyvalue###',
>>>>> -autoparams,
>>>>> -except = array('-path'))));
>>>>> /if;
>>>>> /iterate;
>>>>> /if;
>>>>>
>>>>> For the life of me I don't know what to change.
>>>>>
>>>>> HDB
>>>>> Jolle
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Delete Record issue with clearlocks

2009-10-29T10:16:47Z

In the Knop demo files, when one tries to delete a record in the
Customers Advanced section:

No tag, type or constant was defined under the name string->clearlocks.
at: /_library/lib_advanced_list.inc on line: 34 at position: 13
at: include with params: '/_library/lib_advanced_list.inc'
at: include with params: 'library'
at: /index.lasso on line: 42 at position: 10
at: include with params: '/index.lasso'
at: /urlhandler.inc on line: 13 at position: 20
at: include with params: '/urlhandler.inc'
at: _at_begin
Error Code: -9948

This is the June 27, 2009 version.

It's as if the user type is not really a type, but a string???

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Re: Error in new version

2009-10-29T08:08:53Z

Ignore that last one. Forgot to define a -keyfield.

Still have the -url issue with the latest version of Knop, however.

--steve

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>Spoke too soon.
>
>Actually even with the June 27 version, the URL gets generated
>just fine, but it omits the parameter to edit the record. When
>I click the link, I go to the edit form but it is for creating
>a new record. There must be something basic I am overlooking.
>
>--steve
>
>
>On 10/29/09 at 7:55 AM, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web
>Site Builder) pronounced:
>
>>I reverted to a Knop version I downloaded on June 27, 2009,
>>and the grid works with the -url parameter again.
>>
>>If I comment out the -url parameter on the latest Knop
>>version, then the grid works, but of course there is no link
>>to edit the record.
>>
>>$list -> (addfield:
>>-label=$lang_ui -> code,
>>-dbfield='code',
>>-name='f',
>>// -url='discounts/edit',
>>-width=150,
>>-quicksearch,
>>-defaultsort);
>>
>>I hope this gives a little more information to narrow down the
>>issue. Let me know if I can do further testing.
>>
>>--steve
>>
>>
>>On 10/29/09 at 7:29 AM, Web@... (Steve Piercy) pronounced:
>>
>>>I've been getting the same error now on LP8.5 with the latest version of
>>>Knop:
>>>
>>>No tag, type or constant was defined under the name pair->removeall with
>>>arguments: array: (-path)
>>>at: url with params: -path='discounts/edit', '-keyvalue'='###keyvalue###',
>>>-autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
>>>at: renderlisting with params: -inlinename=@'', -xhtml=false
>>>at: renderhtml
>>>at: /admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc on line: 2 at position: 11
>>>at: include with params: '/admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc'
>>>at: include with params: 'content'
>>>at: /admin/index.lhtml with params: 'discounts/list/' on line: 79 at
>>>position: 10
>>>Error Code: -9948
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Here is what I suspect:
>>>
>>>define_tag: 'renderlisting', -description='Outputs just the actual record
>>>listing. Is called by renderhtml. \
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>#field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> (url: -path=#url,
>>#keyparamname='###keyvalue###',
>>>-autoparams,
>>>-except=(array: -path))));
>>>
>>>
>>>I suspect the -except parameter is the pair->removeall demon.
>>>
>>>--steve
>>>
>>>
>>>Johan Solve-2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Bummer, I can't find anywhere in nav->url where a pair->removeall could
>>>>happen.
>>>>
>>>>Could you test this with the L8 branch as well?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 14.28 +0200 2009-10-12, Johan Solve wrote:
>>>>>The syntax error is in the ->url member tag. You quoted the code that
>>>calls the url tag.
>>>>>
>>>>>Btw Steve, the '-keyvalue' string comes from using a dynamic parameter
>>>name #keyparamname. I don't want to think about if that's even possible in
>>>nine yet...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>At 22.53 +0200 2009-10-08, Jolle Carlestam wrote:
>>>>>>I get an error when trying to display a grid. It's when trying the new
>>>(ninefied version).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This error pops up:
>>>>>>No tag, type or constant was defined under the name pair->removeall with
>>>>>arguments: array: (-path)
>>>>>>at: url with params: -path='images/imageedit',
>>>'-keyvalue'='###keyvalue###', -autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And I've tracked to this code piece (I think):
>>>>>> if(#nav -> isa('nav'));
>>>>>> iterate(#fields, #field);
>>>>>> if((#field -> find('url')) != '');
>>>>>> #url = (#field -> find('url'));
>>>>>> #keyparamname = (#field -> find('keyparamname'));
>>>>>> #field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> url(-path = #url,
>>>>>> #keyparamname = '###keyvalue###',
>>>>>> -autoparams,
>>>>>> -except = array('-path'))));
>>>>>> /if;
>>>>>> /iterate;
>>>>>> /if;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>For the life of me I don't know what to change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>HDB
>>>>>>Jolle
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>
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Re: Error in new version

2009-10-29T08:04:12Z

Spoke too soon.

Actually even with the June 27 version, the URL gets generated
just fine, but it omits the parameter to edit the record. When
I click the link, I go to the edit form but it is for creating a
new record. There must be something basic I am overlooking.

--steve

On 10/29/09 at 7:55 AM, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web
Site Builder) pronounced:

>I reverted to a Knop version I downloaded on June 27, 2009, and
>the grid works with the -url parameter again.
>
>If I comment out the -url parameter on the latest Knop version,
>then the grid works, but of course there is no link to edit the record.
>
>$list -> (addfield:
>-label=$lang_ui -> code,
>-dbfield='code',
>-name='f',
>// -url='discounts/edit',
>-width=150,
>-quicksearch,
>-defaultsort);
>
>I hope this gives a little more information to narrow down the
>issue. Let me know if I can do further testing.
>
>--steve
>
>
>On 10/29/09 at 7:29 AM, Web@... (Steve Piercy) pronounced:
>
>>I've been getting the same error now on LP8.5 with the latest version of
>>Knop:
>>
>>No tag, type or constant was defined under the name pair->removeall with
>>arguments: array: (-path)
>>at: url with params: -path='discounts/edit', '-keyvalue'='###keyvalue###',
>>-autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
>>at: renderlisting with params: -inlinename=@'', -xhtml=false
>>at: renderhtml
>>at: /admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc on line: 2 at position: 11
>>at: include with params: '/admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc'
>>at: include with params: 'content'
>>at: /admin/index.lhtml with params: 'discounts/list/' on line: 79 at
>>position: 10
>>Error Code: -9948
>>
>>
>>
>>Here is what I suspect:
>>
>>define_tag: 'renderlisting', -description='Outputs just the actual record
>>listing. Is called by renderhtml. \
>>
>><snip>
>>#field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> (url: -path=#url,
>#keyparamname='###keyvalue###',
>>-autoparams,
>>-except=(array: -path))));
>>
>>
>>I suspect the -except parameter is the pair->removeall demon.
>>
>>--steve
>>
>>
>>Johan Solve-2 wrote:
>>>
>>>Bummer, I can't find anywhere in nav->url where a pair->removeall could
>>>happen.
>>>
>>>Could you test this with the L8 branch as well?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 14.28 +0200 2009-10-12, Johan Solve wrote:
>>>>The syntax error is in the ->url member tag. You quoted the code that
>>calls the url tag.
>>>>
>>>>Btw Steve, the '-keyvalue' string comes from using a dynamic parameter
>>name #keyparamname. I don't want to think about if that's even possible in
>>nine yet...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 22.53 +0200 2009-10-08, Jolle Carlestam wrote:
>>>>>I get an error when trying to display a grid. It's when trying the new
>>(ninefied version).
>>>>>
>>>>>This error pops up:
>>>>>No tag, type or constant was defined under the name pair->removeall with
>>>>arguments: array: (-path)
>>>>>at: url with params: -path='images/imageedit',
>>'-keyvalue'='###keyvalue###', -autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
>>>>>
>>>>>And I've tracked to this code piece (I think):
>>>>> if(#nav -> isa('nav'));
>>>>> iterate(#fields, #field);
>>>>> if((#field -> find('url')) != '');
>>>>> #url = (#field -> find('url'));
>>>>> #keyparamname = (#field -> find('keyparamname'));
>>>>> #field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> url(-path = #url,
>>>>> #keyparamname = '###keyvalue###',
>>>>> -autoparams,
>>>>> -except = array('-path'))));
>>>>> /if;
>>>>> /iterate;
>>>>> /if;
>>>>>
>>>>>For the life of me I don't know what to change.
>>>>>
>>>>>HDB
>>>>>Jolle
>>>>>
>>>>>--
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>>>>>Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/
>>>>>Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>> Johan Sölve [FSA Member, Lasso Partner]
>>>> Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer
>>>> MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS
>>>>http://www.montania.se mailto:joh-n@...
>>>>(spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a')
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>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Johan Sölve [FSA Member, Lasso Partner]
>>>Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer
>>>MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS
>>>http://www.montania.se mailto:joh-n@...
>>>(spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a')
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><web@...> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/>
>
>

Re: Error in new version

2009-10-29T07:55:54Z

I reverted to a Knop version I downloaded on June 27, 2009, and
the grid works with the -url parameter again.

If I comment out the -url parameter on the latest Knop version,
then the grid works, but of course there is no link to edit the record.

$list -> (addfield:
-label=$lang_ui -> code,
-dbfield='code',
-name='f',
// -url='discounts/edit',
-width=150,
-quicksearch,
-defaultsort);

I hope this gives a little more information to narrow down the
issue. Let me know if I can do further testing.

--steve

On 10/29/09 at 7:29 AM, Web@... (Steve Piercy) pronounced:

>I've been getting the same error now on LP8.5 with the latest version of
>Knop:
>
>No tag, type or constant was defined under the name pair->removeall with
>arguments: array: (-path)
>at: url with params: -path='discounts/edit', '-keyvalue'='###keyvalue###',
>-autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
>at: renderlisting with params: -inlinename=@'', -xhtml=false
>at: renderhtml
>at: /admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc on line: 2 at position: 11
>at: include with params: '/admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc'
>at: include with params: 'content'
>at: /admin/index.lhtml with params: 'discounts/list/' on line: 79 at
>position: 10
>Error Code: -9948
>
>
>
>Here is what I suspect:
>
>define_tag: 'renderlisting', -description='Outputs just the actual record
>listing. Is called by renderhtml. \
>
><snip>
>#field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> (url: -path=#url, #keyparamname='###keyvalue###',
>-autoparams,
>-except=(array: -path))));
>
>
>I suspect the -except parameter is the pair->removeall demon.
>
>--steve
>
>
>Johan Solve-2 wrote:
>>
>>Bummer, I can't find anywhere in nav->url where a pair->removeall could
>>happen.
>>
>>Could you test this with the L8 branch as well?
>>
>>
>>
>>At 14.28 +0200 2009-10-12, Johan Solve wrote:
>>>The syntax error is in the ->url member tag. You quoted the code that
>calls the url tag.
>>>
>>>Btw Steve, the '-keyvalue' string comes from using a dynamic parameter
>name #keyparamname. I don't want to think about if that's even possible in
>nine yet...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 22.53 +0200 2009-10-08, Jolle Carlestam wrote:
>>>>I get an error when trying to display a grid. It's when trying the new
>(ninefied version).
>>>>
>>>>This error pops up:
>>> >No tag, type or constant was defined under the name pair->removeall with
>>> arguments: array: (-path)
>>>>at: url with params: -path='images/imageedit',
>'-keyvalue'='###keyvalue###', -autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
>>>>
>>>>And I've tracked to this code piece (I think):
>>>> if(#nav -> isa('nav'));
>>>> iterate(#fields, #field);
>>>> if((#field -> find('url')) != '');
>>>> #url = (#field -> find('url'));
>>>> #keyparamname = (#field -> find('keyparamname'));
>>>> #field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> url(-path = #url,
>>>> #keyparamname = '###keyvalue###',
>>>> -autoparams,
>>>> -except = array('-path'))));
>>>> /if;
>>>> /iterate;
>>>> /if;
>>>>
>>>>For the life of me I don't know what to change.
>>>>
>>>>HDB
>>>>Jolle
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>#############################################################
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>>>>Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/
>>>>Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>> Johan Sölve [FSA Member, Lasso Partner]
>>> Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer
>>> MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS
>>>http://www.montania.se mailto:joh-n@...
>>> (spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a')
>>>
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>>
>>
>>--
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>>Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer
>>MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS
>>http://www.montania.se mailto:joh-n@...
>>(spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a')
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Re: Error in new version

2009-10-29T07:29:09Z

I've been getting the same error now on LP8.5 with the latest version of Knop:

No tag, type or constant was defined under the name pair->removeall with arguments: array: (-path)
at: url with params: -path='discounts/edit', '-keyvalue'='###keyvalue###', -autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
at: renderlisting with params: -inlinename=@'', -xhtml=false
at: renderhtml
at: /admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc on line: 2 at position: 11
at: include with params: '/admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc'
at: include with params: 'content'
at: /admin/index.lhtml with params: 'discounts/list/' on line: 79 at position: 10
Error Code: -9948

Here is what I suspect:

define_tag: 'renderlisting', -description='Outputs just the actual record listing. Is called by renderhtml. \

<snip>
#field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> (url: -path=#url,
#keyparamname='###keyvalue###',
-autoparams,
-except=(array: -path))));

I suspect the -except parameter is the pair->removeall demon.

--steve

Johan Solve-2 wrote:

Bummer, I can't find anywhere in nav->url where a pair->removeall could happen.

Could you test this with the L8 branch as well?

At 14.28 +0200 2009-10-12, Johan Solve wrote:
>The syntax error is in the ->url member tag. You quoted the code that calls the url tag.
>
>Btw Steve, the '-keyvalue' string comes from using a dynamic parameter name #keyparamname. I don't want to think about if that's even possible in nine yet...
>
>
>
>At 22.53 +0200 2009-10-08, Jolle Carlestam wrote:
>>I get an error when trying to display a grid. It's when trying the new (ninefied version).
>>
>>This error pops up:
> >No tag, type or constant was defined under the name pair->removeall with arguments: array: (-path)
>>at: url with params: -path='images/imageedit', '-keyvalue'='###keyvalue###', -autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
>>
>>And I've tracked to this code piece (I think):
>> if(#nav -> isa('nav'));
>> iterate(#fields, #field);
>> if((#field -> find('url')) != '');
>> #url = (#field -> find('url'));
>> #keyparamname = (#field -> find('keyparamname'));
>> #field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> url(-path = #url,
>> #keyparamname = '###keyvalue###',
>> -autoparams,
>> -except = array('-path'))));
>> /if;
>> /iterate;
>> /if;
>>
>>For the life of me I don't know what to change.
>>
>>HDB
>>Jolle
>>
>>--
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>
>
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> Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer
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Re: Error in new version

2009-10-29T07:09:16Z

I recognize this and I'm pretty sure this was discovered and fixed fairly recently, although I can't find any trace of that now.

Conny do you recall more details?

At 07.29 -0700 2009-10-29, Steve Piercy wrote:

>I've been getting the same error now on LP8.5 with the latest version of
>Knop:
>
>No tag, type or constant was defined under the name pair->removeall with
>arguments: array: (-path)
>at: url with params: -path='discounts/edit', '-keyvalue'='###keyvalue###',
>-autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
>at: renderlisting with params: -inlinename=@'', -xhtml=false
>at: renderhtml
>at: /admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc on line: 2 at position: 11
>at: include with params: '/admin/_content/cnt_discounts_list.inc'
>at: include with params: 'content'
>at: /admin/index.lhtml with params: 'discounts/list/' on line: 79 at
>position: 10
>Error Code: -9948
>
>
>
>Here is what I suspect:
>
> define_tag: 'renderlisting', -description='Outputs just the actual record
>listing. Is called by renderhtml. \
>
><snip>
> #field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> (url: -path=#url,
> #keyparamname='###keyvalue###',
> -autoparams,
> -except=(array: -path))));
>
>
>I suspect the -except parameter is the pair->removeall demon.
>
>--steve
>
>
>Johan Solve-2 wrote:
>>
>> Bummer, I can't find anywhere in nav->url where a pair->removeall could
>> happen.
>>
>> Could you test this with the L8 branch as well?
>>
>>
>>
>> At 14.28 +0200 2009-10-12, Johan Solve wrote:
>>>The syntax error is in the ->url member tag. You quoted the code that
>calls the url tag.
>>>
>>>Btw Steve, the '-keyvalue' string comes from using a dynamic parameter
>name #keyparamname. I don't want to think about if that's even possible in
>nine yet...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 22.53 +0200 2009-10-08, Jolle Carlestam wrote:
>>>>I get an error when trying to display a grid. It's when trying the new
>(ninefied version).
>>>>
>>>>This error pops up:
>>> >No tag, type or constant was defined under the name pair->removeall with
>>> arguments: array: (-path)
>>>>at: url with params: -path='images/imageedit',
>'-keyvalue'='###keyvalue###', -autoparams, -except=array: (-path)
>>>>
>>>>And I've tracked to this code piece (I think):
>>>> if(#nav -> isa('nav'));
>>>> iterate(#fields, #field);
>>>> if((#field -> find('url')) != '');
>>>> #url = (#field -> find('url'));
>>>> #keyparamname = (#field -> find('keyparamname'));
>>>> #field -> insert('url_cached' = (#nav -> url(-path = #url,
>>>> #keyparamname = '###keyvalue###',
>>>> -autoparams,
>>>> -except = array('-path'))));
>>>> /if;
>>>> /iterate;
>>>> /if;
>>>>
>>>>For the life of me I don't know what to change.
>>>>
>>>>HDB
>>>>Jolle
>>>>
>>>>--
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>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>> Johan Sölve [FSA Member, Lasso Partner]
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Re: Templating

2009-10-19T00:09:58Z

From Lasso's perspective, the current file location is the virtual URL so any relative includes start from there.
For example for the url /client/list/print/ Lasso will look for includes down in the folder /client/list/print/ which of course doesn't exist since it's virtual.

So you need to use absolute paths in all includes, as you've already figured out.

include($siteroot + '_util/print_template.inc');

At 17.11 -0700 2009-10-18, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:

>I'm trying to create a print template that lacks all the stuff of a normal template for both on-screen display and printed output. I'm not sure whether this is possible with Knop using the method I attempt as follows.
>
>In the Knop demo file /index.lasso, there is a comment:
>
>// Page output begins here, so from here on we could use a template include for better separation of logic and presentation
>
>However when I attempt to include a file from within /index.lasso, I receive an Apache 404 file not found error. Here is the code snippet:
>
>select($rfp); // $rfp == response_filepath declared in cfg__global.inc
>case('/print_template');
> include('print_template.lasso');
>case;
>]...default html template...[/select]
>
>I know I could put a bunch of case statements within the HTML itself, but that just gets ugly. I'm not sure how to implement templates or troubleshoot this. Any hints appreciated.
>
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Re: Templating

2009-10-18T19:29:11Z

On 10/18/09 at 5:11 PM, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web
Site Builder) pronounced:

>I'm trying to create a print template that lacks all the stuff
>of a normal template for both on-screen display and printed
>output. I'm not sure whether this is possible with Knop using
>the method I attempt as follows.
>
>In the Knop demo file /index.lasso, there is a comment:
>
>// Page output begins here, so from here on we could use a
>template include for better separation of logic and presentation
>
>However when I attempt to include a file from within
>/index.lasso, I receive an Apache 404 file not found error.
>Here is the code snippet:
>
>select($rfp); // $rfp == response_filepath declared in cfg__global.inc
>case('/print_template');
>include('print_template.lasso');
>case;
>]...default html template...[/select]
>
>I know I could put a bunch of case statements within the HTML
>itself, but that just gets ugly. I'm not sure how to implement
>templates or troubleshoot this. Any hints appreciated.

Evidently either Apache, Knop or the urlhandler.inc file (or
some combination thereof) does not like either the location or
extension for print_template.lasso. Here is my solution,
although I don't know exactly why it works. I plunked this into
/index.lasso and removed all the other stuff after the comment
for the page output:

select($rfp);
case('/print_template');
include($siteroot + '_util/print_template.inc');
case;
include($siteroot + '_util/index.inc');
/select;

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Templating

2009-10-18T17:11:29Z

I'm trying to create a print template that lacks all the stuff
of a normal template for both on-screen display and printed
output. I'm not sure whether this is possible with Knop using
the method I attempt as follows.

In the Knop demo file /index.lasso, there is a comment:

// Page output begins here, so from here on we could use a
template include for better separation of logic and presentation

However when I attempt to include a file from within
/index.lasso, I receive an Apache 404 file not found error.
Here is the code snippet:

select($rfp); // $rfp == response_filepath declared in cfg__global.inc
case('/print_template');
include('print_template.lasso');
case;
]...default html template...[/select]

I know I could put a bunch of case statements within the HTML
itself, but that just gets ugly. I'm not sure how to implement
templates or troubleshoot this. Any hints appreciated.

--steve

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Re: Feature request - autocomplete="off"

2009-10-16T06:51:39Z

On 10/16/09 at 8:34 AM, bil@... (Bil Corry) pronounced:

>Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote on 10/16/2009 5:31 AM:
>>It looks like it will be defined in HTML5:
>>http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/forms.html#the-autocomplete-attribute
>
>It is defined in HTML5, which is doing it's best to create a
>HTML spec that reflects how browsers actually work. That is
>what I suggest you target as that is what all the browser
>vendors are targeting as well.

LOL. Okay, so it's back on the table. Dunno if I can grab it
back from the dog.

I'll work on the <form> bit tomorrow.

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Re: Feature request - autocomplete="off"

2009-10-16T06:34:23Z

Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote on 10/16/2009 5:31 AM:
> It looks like it will be defined in HTML5:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/forms.html#the-autocomplete-attribute

It is defined in HTML5, which is doing it's best to create a HTML spec that reflects how browsers actually work. That is what I suggest you target as that is what all the browser vendors are targeting as well.

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