Ksirk Skin Editor

[Arturo Silva]

Having confirmed that there is no icon for the Ksirk Skin Editor, I
drafted the following proposal:

   http://pigux.com/kde4/ksirkskineditor.png
   http://pigux.com/kde4/ksirkskineditor.svg

Please review and let me know if this acceptable as an Oxygen-grade
icon so I can proceed in building the full icon set.

Thanks!


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[Nuno Pinheiro]

A Quarta, 16 de Setembro de 2009 06:03:22 Arturo Silva você escreveu:

> Having confirmed that there is no icon for the Ksirk Skin Editor, I
> drafted the following proposal:
>
>    http://pigux.com/kde4/ksirkskineditor.png
>    http://pigux.com/kde4/ksirkskineditor.svg
>
> Please review and let me know if this acceptable as an Oxygen-grade
> icon so I can proceed in building the full icon set.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> --Arturo "C-quel" Silva
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Yey great work, the icon uses a bit off prespective for oygen and the brush
could be more natural, apart from that its a great piece of work

Notes about oxygen prospective, oxygen tries a frontal perspective, with not
to much fish eye.
check the oxygen icons in svn to have a look , you will notece that the amount
of fish eye is reduced
 
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[Eugene Trounev [it-s]-2]

On Wednesday 16 September 2009 01:03:22 Arturo Silva wrote:

> Having confirmed that there is no icon for the Ksirk Skin Editor, I
> drafted the following proposal:
>
>    http://pigux.com/kde4/ksirkskineditor.png
>    http://pigux.com/kde4/ksirkskineditor.svg
>
> Please review and let me know if this acceptable as an Oxygen-grade
> icon so I can proceed in building the full icon set.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> --Arturo "C-quel" Silva
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Nice :) But I'm worried a bit about scalability... How will it work on smaller
sizes, like 16x16? But I'm sure you will figure that out :D

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[Arturo Silva]

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Nuno Pinheiro <nuno@...> wrote:
>
> Yey great work, the icon uses a bit off prespective for oygen and the brush
> could be more natural, apart from that its a great piece of work
>
> Notes about oxygen prospective, oxygen tries a frontal perspective, with not
> to much fish eye.
> check the oxygen icons in svn to have a look , you will notece that the amount
> of fish eye is reduced

Thank you!  I'm happy I [almost] got it right on the first try.  :)

I actually borrowed the brush from Kolourpaint for the abstraction,
but yeah I can definitely create a more realistic brush (with a wooden
handle and metallic brace).  That might actually be a better way to go
just to add more color diversity.

Although I mainly used the Ksirk icon as reference, I did notice quite
a few Oxygen icons use a top-front perspective (e.g., KGet, Knetwalk,
Killbots).  So I can try reworking this to display the same way (the
cap portion is almost there, so I just have to focus on fixing the
top).

One question, though.... where is the path for the Oxygen icons in SVN?  ^^'



On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Eugene Trounev [it-s]
<eugene.trounev@...> wrote:
>
> Nice :) But I'm worried a bit about scalability... How will it work on smaller
> sizes, like 16x16? But I'm sure you will figure that out :D

Thanks. ^^
If memory serves, I think I'll be able to produce differently sized
versions of this icon.  So for anything below 16x16, I'll likely be
able to thicken the strokes, bolden the shading and/or remove any
details that would interfere with the scaling (such as the light
shadows at the bottom).
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[Nuno Pinheiro]

A Quarta, 16 de Setembro de 2009 16:31:46 Arturo Silva você escreveu:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Nuno Pinheiro <nuno@...>
wrote:

> > Yey great work, the icon uses a bit off prespective for oygen and the
> > brush could be more natural, apart from that its a great piece of work
> >
> > Notes about oxygen prospective, oxygen tries a frontal perspective, with
> > not to much fish eye.
> > check the oxygen icons in svn to have a look , you will notece that the
> > amount of fish eye is reduced
>
> Thank you!  I'm happy I [almost] got it right on the first try.  :)
>
> I actually borrowed the brush from Kolourpaint for the abstraction,
> but yeah I can definitely create a more realistic brush (with a wooden
> handle and metallic brace).  That might actually be a better way to go
> just to add more color diversity.

you can use the brush we use in oxygen, dosent rotate well and probably will
need to be redone but along those lines

> Although I mainly used the Ksirk icon as reference, I did notice quite
> a few Oxygen icons use a top-front perspective (e.g., KGet, Knetwalk,
> Killbots).  So I can try reworking this to display the same way (the
> cap portion is almost there, so I just have to focus on fixing the
> top).

super, there si alot more not so fun work to do in oxygen icons if you are up
to it,,, I have a huge list's of todo icons :)

> One question, though.... where is the path for the Oxygen icons in SVN?
> ^^'
>
its in kdesuport

>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Eugene Trounev [it-s]
>
> <eugene.trounev@...> wrote:
> > Nice :) But I'm worried a bit about scalability... How will it work on
> > smaller sizes, like 16x16? But I'm sure you will figure that out :D
>
> Thanks. ^^
> If memory serves, I think I'll be able to produce differently sized
> versions of this icon.  So for anything below 16x16, I'll likely be
> able to thicken the strokes, bolden the shading and/or remove any
> details that would interfere with the scaling (such as the light
> shadows at the bottom).
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[Arturo Silva]

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Kleag <kleag@...> wrote:
>
> Its fine, thanks a lot! But will it be easy to recognize at icon sizes ? The
> idea of the brush and the still white surface is very good but what do you
> think of using the current ksirk icon cannon as the painted object ? It would
> give a unity to the two applications that are strongly related.

Hi!  I was originally thinking of doing this as a dismantled cannon --
don't remember why it knocked the idea down, but it could've been to
offer something a little different.  :)

Actually, as long as I can dig up the original SVG (I imagine this is
where the Oxygen SVN would comes in), yeah I could definitely give it
a shot!   Better yet, instead of the brush painting over the cannon,
how about if the brush is painting a different "skin" over that
cannon?  SO instead of looking like standard artillery, the brush is
giving it circus cannon colors.  :)

http://middleburyfire.org/photos/circus2007/P5130052.jpg



On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Nuno Pinheiro <nuno@...> wrote:
>
> super, there si alot more not so fun work to do in oxygen icons if you are up
> to it,,, I have a huge list's of todo icons :)

Sure!  In fact, I'm still hunting for an up-to-date list of missing
icons, which is why I've been hanging around kde-games for the most
part.

If you can hand me about 5 or so of those icons on your TODO list to
begin with, I can use that as a test to see if I have what it takes.
^^b


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[Arturo Silva]

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Nuno Pinheiro <nuno@...> wrote:
>
> its in kdesuport

Actually more like svn co
svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-icons .  Sorry,
back then I still didn't know how to actually search the Subversion
branch (now I know where WebSVN is at least). ^^'

In any event, it's nice to be able to see the more up-to-date icon
list.  However, I thought it would come with that TODO list you
mentioned, but all I saw was that "TODO-smallversions" file that seems
to be unrelated.



On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Kleag <kleag@...> wrote:
>
> The idea of the brush and the still white surface is very good but what do you
> think of using the current ksirk icon cannon as the painted object ? It would
> give a unity to the two applications that are strongly related.

I sort of checked high and low, but I can't find the SVG graphic for
the ksirk cannon icon.  Is there one or do I have to create a vector
version of the 128x128 png from scratch?  I don't mind doing that, but
I really need to know to prevent double-work (in case you have it and
just need to send it to me).

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[Nuno Pinheiro]

A Sexta, 18 de Setembro de 2009 02:45:19 Arturo Silva você escreveu:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Nuno Pinheiro <nuno@...>
wrote:

> > its in kdesuport
>
> Actually more like svn co
> svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-icons .  Sorry,
> back then I still didn't know how to actually search the Subversion
> branch (now I know where WebSVN is at least). ^^'
>
> In any event, it's nice to be able to see the more up-to-date icon
> list.  However, I thought it would come with that TODO list you
> mentioned, but all I saw was that "TODO-smallversions" file that seems
> to be unrelated.
>

the todo lists are in /trunk/playground/artwork/Oxygen/Docs

> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Kleag <kleag@...> wrote:
> > The idea of the brush and the still white surface is very good but what
> > do you think of using the current ksirk icon cannon as the painted object
> > ? It would give a unity to the two applications that are strongly
> > related.
>
> I sort of checked high and low, but I can't find the SVG graphic for
> the ksirk cannon icon.  Is there one or do I have to create a vector
> version of the 128x128 png from scratch?  I don't mind doing that, but
> I really need to know to prevent double-work (in case you have it and
> just need to send it to me).

If its not in Oxygen svn its probably not an oxygen icon, an you will have to
search it in  the games folder i guess not sure, don't think we have a canon
icon dough

cheers

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[Arturo Silva]

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 4:32 AM, Nuno Pinheiro <nuno@...> wrote:
>
> the todo lists are in /trunk/playground/artwork/Oxygen/Docs

Ah! There we go, perfect!  :)
And I noticed some were modified not so long ago, so I guess those
were for the icons you've recently completed.

So for example, in kaffeine.ods, there seems to already be icons for
video-television, but not video-television-encrypted, audio-radio, and
audio-radio-encrypted.  So if I started off with these (or other
similar icon lists that are almost complete), then we can sign off on
this list no?  :)

I'll spend parts of the day going over the lists, seeing where they
should be in the Oxygen directory and making a plan for some
hole-plugging.

But you are right, there are LOTS of icons still left to do.  Wow,
it's amazing when you see the list in person.... XD

Are there any other special folders that I should be aware of, besides
playground/artwork/Oxygen/Docs?


>
> If its not in Oxygen svn its probably not an oxygen icon, an you will have to
> search it in  the games folder i guess not sure, don't think we have a canon
> icon dough

Yeah, I checked in the game source directory but no dice.  I will have
to put this on hold until I can confirm with Kleag if there is an SVG
version.  If there isn't, maybe we can take the opportunity to make
both (ksirk and ksirkskineditor) oxygen icons.

In any event, I'll focus on the missing oxygen icons till then.



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[Nuno Pinheiro]

A Sexta, 18 de Setembro de 2009 13:45:12 Arturo Silva você escreveu:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 4:32 AM, Nuno Pinheiro <nuno@...>
wrote:

> > the todo lists are in /trunk/playground/artwork/Oxygen/Docs
>
> Ah! There we go, perfect!  :)
> And I noticed some were modified not so long ago, so I guess those
> were for the icons you've recently completed.
>
> So for example, in kaffeine.ods, there seems to already be icons for
> video-television, but not video-television-encrypted, audio-radio, and
> audio-radio-encrypted.  So if I started off with these (or other
> similar icon lists that are almost complete), then we can sign off on
> this list no?  :)

just Marc as an x, or send them to me for review and i will
>
> I'll spend parts of the day going over the lists, seeing where they
> should be in the Oxygen directory and making a plan for some
> hole-plugging.
>
most of them are action icons about 95%


> But you are right, there are LOTS of icons still left to do.  Wow,
> it's amazing when you see the list in person.... XD
>
> Are there any other special folders that I should be aware of, besides
> playground/artwork/Oxygen/Docs?

playground/artwork/Oxygen/scribus loads of duplication with koffice.ods

>
> > If its not in Oxygen svn its probably not an oxygen icon, an you will
> > have to search it in  the games folder i guess not sure, don't think we
> > have a canon icon dough
>
> Yeah, I checked in the game source directory but no dice.  I will have
> to put this on hold until I can confirm with Kleag if there is an SVG
> version.  If there isn't, maybe we can take the opportunity to make
> both (ksirk and ksirkskineditor) oxygen icons.
>
> In any event, I'll focus on the missing oxygen icons till then.

pick a list and strat kiling them, example pick one of the apps in koofice and
mark it witth  a color like i did for kplato.

>
>
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[Arturo Silva]

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Nuno Pinheiro <nuno@...> wrote:
>
> just Marc as an x, or send them to me for review and i will
>
> pick a list and strat kiling them, example pick one of the apps in koofice and
> mark it witth  a color like i did for kplato.

Alrighty, I've reviewed the lists.  ^^b

Well I'd like to get rid of more of the smaller sections first, I'll
limit that only to Kaffeine.ods.  It only has these three icons
remaining:

video-television-encrypted
audio-radio
audio-radio-encrypted

...and with them out of the way we can close out Kaffeine.ods. ^__^

But after that, I will want to turn my focus to all the Krita icons,
not only because I like the program but also because I want ot learn
more about the newer version.  This would be a great opportunity to
take care of various things at once.  ^^

I'll highlight these all tonight as you suggested -- that too will be
good practice as far as SVG commits go.

I'll aim to get the Kaffeine ones completed at least by Monday (I will
be doing other things over the weekend),  but as I don't know how long
it will take to do the Krita ones, I'll just put a deadline of one
month for now (I hope it will end up being less).  ;)


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[Nuno Pinheiro]

A Sexta, 18 de Setembro de 2009 22:12:37 Arturo Silva você escreveu:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Nuno Pinheiro <nuno@...>
wrote:

> > just Marc as an x, or send them to me for review and i will
> >
> > pick a list and strat kiling them, example pick one of the apps in
> > koofice and mark it witth  a color like i did for kplato.
>
> Alrighty, I've reviewed the lists.  ^^b
>
> Well I'd like to get rid of more of the smaller sections first, I'll
> limit that only to Kaffeine.ods.  It only has these three icons
> remaining:
>
> video-television-encrypted
> audio-radio
> audio-radio-encrypted

very cool

>
> ...and with them out of the way we can close out Kaffeine.ods. ^__^
>
> But after that, I will want to turn my focus to all the Krita icons,
> not only because I like the program but also because I want ot learn
> more about the newer version.  This would be a great opportunity to
> take care of various things at once.  ^^
>
> I'll highlight these all tonight as you suggested -- that too will be
> good practice as far as SVG commits go.
>
> I'll aim to get the Kaffeine ones completed at least by Monday (I will
> be doing other things over the weekend),  but as I don't know how long
> it will take to do the Krita ones, I'll just put a deadline of one
> month for now (I hope it will end up being less).  ;)

yeah don't put dead lines in those just do as you go the list is very messy
please double check for having them in the oxygen icon set already, as style
goes there is already a couple of drawing icons done so you should be fine.  
>
>
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[Nuno Pinheiro]

A Sexta, 18 de Setembro de 2009 22:12:37 Arturo Silva você escreveu:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Nuno Pinheiro <nuno@...>
wrote:

> > just Marc as an x, or send them to me for review and i will
> >
> > pick a list and strat kiling them, example pick one of the apps in
> > koofice and mark it witth  a color like i did for kplato.
>
> Alrighty, I've reviewed the lists.  ^^b
>
> Well I'd like to get rid of more of the smaller sections first, I'll
> limit that only to Kaffeine.ods.  It only has these three icons
> remaining:
>
> video-television-encrypted
> audio-radio
> audio-radio-encrypted
>
> ...and with them out of the way we can close out Kaffeine.ods. ^__^
>
> But after that, I will want to turn my focus to all the Krita icons,
> not only because I like the program but also because I want ot learn
> more about the newer version.  This would be a great opportunity to
> take care of various things at once.  ^^
>
> I'll highlight these all tonight as you suggested -- that too will be
> good practice as far as SVG commits go.
>
> I'll aim to get the Kaffeine ones completed at least by Monday (I will
> be doing other things over the weekend),  but as I don't know how long
> it will take to do the Krita ones, I'll just put a deadline of one
> month for now (I hope it will end up being less).  ;)
>
>
> --Arturo
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btw I tend to be all the time in #oxygen  over free-node you can contact me
there for anything.

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[Arturo Silva]

Well it has been a while since posting to this thread, but actually a
lot of exciting stuff happened "under the hood" so to speak.  ;)

In any event, per Kleag's suggestion, I completed an alternate draft
the Ksrik Skin Editor icon this time based on the original Ksirk
cannon (which here is literally having its "skin" changed).  Because
the icon mirrors the current Ksirk icon closely, the same design
concepts for the smaller icon sizes (e.g., 16x16's omission of the
cannon balls) would also apply here.

http://pigux.com/kde4/storage/ksirk/ksirkskineditor2.png

http://pigux.com/kde4/storage/ksirk/ksirkskineditor2.svg

The brush is borrowed from Krita, although I'm not 100% I'll want to
keep it.  ^^'



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