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Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
by davidqz
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I am still learning Wicket. The more I read from <<Wicket in Action>>, the more I like it. From the book, I know that companies from startups to large-size ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc. use Wicket for their projects, but I cannot find a list of specific larget internet rich UI websites coded with Wicket. Could someone help? The backgound for this request is that we may use Wicket for a large highly-active website. Cheers! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... |
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
by Martin Funk-3
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Am 01.07.2009 um 20:11 schrieb David Chang: > > I am still learning Wicket. The more I read from <<Wicket in > Action>>, the more I like it. > > From the book, I know that companies from startups to large-size > ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc. use Wicket for their projects, but I > cannot find a list of specific larget internet rich UI websites > coded with Wicket. Could someone help? > > The backgound for this request is that we may use Wicket for a large > highly-active website. http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html mf > > Cheers! > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... |
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
by jthomerson
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There are some large ones that have been mentioned on the mailing
lists in the past - you can try searching Nabble - they may not be on that page. As a side note, I find it funny how everyone always compares their anticipated traffic with Amazon or eBay. I worked at eBay for quite some time, and I know that you are not going to run either of those sites with any framework straight out of the box. I'm not saying Wicket can't scale to that size, I'm saying that no framework defaults to being made for that size. Could eBay or Amazon use Wicket? Sure, with the right techniques. Could your website use it? Yes, and probably much easier. :) -- Jeremy Thomerson http://www.wickettraining.com On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, David Chang<david_q_zhang@...> wrote: > > > Martin, I looked at the list and it seems none of them meets what I said about large rich ui Wicket website. Likely I am ignorant. Please enlighten me. By large, I mean something similar or close to amazon.com or ebay.com that have a large number of concurrent users. Which Wicket website in your knowledge seems to the largest one? > > Thanks! > > > --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Martin Funk <mafulafunk@...> wrote: > >> From: Martin Funk <mafulafunk@...> >> Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites? >> To: users@... >> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 3:21 PM >> >> Am 01.07.2009 um 20:11 schrieb David Chang: >> >> > >> > I am still learning Wicket. The more I read from >> <<Wicket in Action>>, the more I like it. >> > >> > From the book, I know that companies from startups to >> large-size ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc. use Wicket for >> their projects, but I cannot find a list of specific larget >> internet rich UI websites coded with Wicket. Could someone >> help? >> > >> > The backgound for this request is that we may use >> Wicket for a large highly-active website. >> maybe this helps: >> http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html >> mf >> > >> > Cheers! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >> > >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >> >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... |
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WebClientInfo and browser version
by Stefan Lindner
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Current trunk. The WebclientInfo holds only version info for IE. Looking
at the source code shows that only for IE the majorVersion is set. But the queryString (using current Firefox 3.0.11) looks like Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; de; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.3072 This means that the major (and minor) version is included in the queryString. Is this intended that the version is not gathered in the WebclientInfo's init() method? Or am I totally wrong? Stefan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... |
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
by igor.vaynberg
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lets say the entire backend of amazon is written in wicket. would you
consider that to be a large application? how would you ever know that it was written in wicket? people who work on projects like these do not often go, or most times are not even allowed, to boast on some public mailing list. wicket is best suited for very complex uis, and such uis are not often suited for public websites - whose mission is to make the experience as simple as possible for the user. not saying that it cannot be done. i think if this is some sort of a "criteria" for choosing a framework you should probably go with servlets. there are some very very large sites out there written in pure jsp and servlets. good luck. -igor On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:57 AM, David Chang<david_q_zhang@...> wrote: > > > Jeremy, thanks for your input. I don't quite understand the side note in your reply. For a large website such as Amazon to work, there should absolutely be different technologies/tiers, tuning, security, and other considerations. The basic question is whether a framework is up to that task and whether there is evidence in reality. > > Still back to my original question, any there any large Wicket website out there? Wicket people have to face it, me too, if I am going to use it. > > > --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@...> wrote: > >> From: Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@...> >> Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites? >> To: users@... >> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 4:08 PM >> There are some large ones that have >> been mentioned on the mailing >> lists in the past - you can try searching Nabble - they may >> not be on >> that page. >> >> As a side note, I find it funny how everyone always >> compares their >> anticipated traffic with Amazon or eBay. I worked at >> eBay for quite >> some time, and I know that you are not going to run either >> of those >> sites with any framework straight out of the box. I'm >> not saying >> Wicket can't scale to that size, I'm saying that no >> framework defaults >> to being made for that size. Could eBay or Amazon use >> Wicket? Sure, >> with the right techniques. Could your website use >> it? Yes, and >> probably much easier. :) >> >> -- >> Jeremy Thomerson >> http://www.wickettraining.com >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, David Chang<david_q_zhang@...> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Martin, I looked at the list and it seems none of them >> meets what I said about large rich ui Wicket website. Likely >> I am ignorant. Please enlighten me. By large, I mean >> something similar or close to amazon.com or ebay.com that >> have a large number of concurrent users. Which Wicket >> website in your knowledge seems to the largest one? >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > >> > --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Martin Funk <mafulafunk@...> >> wrote: >> > >> >> From: Martin Funk <mafulafunk@...> >> >> Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket >> websites? >> >> To: users@... >> >> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 3:21 PM >> >> >> >> Am 01.07.2009 um 20:11 schrieb David Chang: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > I am still learning Wicket. The more I read >> from >> >> <<Wicket in Action>>, the more I like >> it. >> >> > >> >> > From the book, I know that companies from >> startups to >> >> large-size ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc. use >> Wicket for >> >> their projects, but I cannot find a list of >> specific larget >> >> internet rich UI websites coded with Wicket. Could >> someone >> >> help? >> >> > >> >> > The backgound for this request is that we may >> use >> >> Wicket for a large highly-active website. >> >> maybe this helps: >> >> http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html >> >> mf >> >> > >> >> > Cheers! >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >> > >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >> >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... |
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
by John Armstrong-3
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I see 3 tiers of sites
Intranet : Low traffic / high functionality with a small audience and the common wicket use case from what I can tell. Mid-market : <5 million hits per day Premium : The ebays and googles of the world. No one stack can serve the Premium market but I instinctually think that wicket can do well "out of the box" in the Mid-market as well if we had just a bit more info about how people are scaling it in that range. John- On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Randy S.<randypower@...> wrote: > For what it's worth, my employer is a large financial services organization > and we are considering switching to Wicket for all our major internal and > external development. I also have been disappointed while going through the > Wiki page that lists sites using Wicket. Many are not even in existence > anymore, and I saw no high volume sites. > > This is not a complaint to anyone. Wicket is what it is, including the > community. My point is that despite the lack of (advertised) usage on high > volume sites, some of us are lurking and see lots of potential. > > On Jul 2, 2009 2:16 PM, "David Chang" <david_q_zhang@...> wrote: > > > Igor, thanks very much for your input and insight. I really mean it. > > All the best. > > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Igor Vaynberg <igor.vaynberg@...> wrote: > >> From: Igor Vaynberg <igor.vaynberg@...> > >> Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites? > To: > users@... >> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 2:35 PM > >> lets say the entire backend of amazon > is written in wicket. would you > > consider that to be a la... > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... |
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
by igor.vaynberg
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what makes you think you need any special tweaking or scaling in
wicket to handle that kind of load? -igor On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:43 PM, John Armstrong<siberian@...> wrote: > I see 3 tiers of sites > > Intranet : Low traffic / high functionality with a small audience and > the common wicket use case from what I can tell. > > Mid-market : <5 million hits per day > > Premium : The ebays and googles of the world. > > No one stack can serve the Premium market but I instinctually think > that wicket can do well "out of the box" in the Mid-market as well if > we had just a bit more info about how people are scaling it in that > range. > > John- > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Randy S.<randypower@...> wrote: >> For what it's worth, my employer is a large financial services organization >> and we are considering switching to Wicket for all our major internal and >> external development. I also have been disappointed while going through the >> Wiki page that lists sites using Wicket. Many are not even in existence >> anymore, and I saw no high volume sites. >> >> This is not a complaint to anyone. Wicket is what it is, including the >> community. My point is that despite the lack of (advertised) usage on high >> volume sites, some of us are lurking and see lots of potential. >> >> On Jul 2, 2009 2:16 PM, "David Chang" <david_q_zhang@...> wrote: >> >> >> Igor, thanks very much for your input and insight. I really mean it. >> >> All the best. >> >> >> --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Igor Vaynberg <igor.vaynberg@...> wrote: >> >>> From: Igor Vaynberg <igor.vaynberg@...> >> >>> Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites? > To: >> users@... >>> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 2:35 PM >> >>> lets say the entire backend of amazon > is written in wicket. would you > >> consider that to be a la... >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... |
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
by John Armstrong-3
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Nothing makes me think I can't but the point here is that nothing
makes me think I can ;) I'll end up doing it at some point. it can't be helped, I've been wicketized. John- On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Igor Vaynberg<igor.vaynberg@...> wrote: > what makes you think you need any special tweaking or scaling in > wicket to handle that kind of load? > > -igor > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:43 PM, John Armstrong<siberian@...> wrote: >> I see 3 tiers of sites >> >> Intranet : Low traffic / high functionality with a small audience and >> the common wicket use case from what I can tell. >> >> Mid-market : <5 million hits per day >> >> Premium : The ebays and googles of the world. >> >> No one stack can serve the Premium market but I instinctually think >> that wicket can do well "out of the box" in the Mid-market as well if >> we had just a bit more info about how people are scaling it in that >> range. >> >> John- >> >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Randy S.<randypower@...> wrote: >>> For what it's worth, my employer is a large financial services organization >>> and we are considering switching to Wicket for all our major internal and >>> external development. I also have been disappointed while going through the >>> Wiki page that lists sites using Wicket. Many are not even in existence >>> anymore, and I saw no high volume sites. >>> >>> This is not a complaint to anyone. Wicket is what it is, including the >>> community. My point is that despite the lack of (advertised) usage on high >>> volume sites, some of us are lurking and see lots of potential. >>> >>> On Jul 2, 2009 2:16 PM, "David Chang" <david_q_zhang@...> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Igor, thanks very much for your input and insight. I really mean it. >>> >>> All the best. >>> >>> >>> --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Igor Vaynberg <igor.vaynberg@...> wrote: >>> >>>> From: Igor Vaynberg <igor.vaynberg@...> >>> >>>> Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites? > To: >>> users@... >>>> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 2:35 PM >>> >>>> lets say the entire backend of amazon > is written in wicket. would you > >>> consider that to be a la... >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... |
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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
by Christopher L Merrill-2
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Igor Vaynberg wrote:
> what makes you think you need any special tweaking or scaling in > wicket to handle that kind of load? I've got a bit of knowledge (not wicket-specific) in this area and the one thing I can say for sure is: if there is a financial stake in the project, then you should never assume it will scale. The only way to know is to test it up to (and past) the expected load level. Chris Disclaimer: my employer sells load testing software and services. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Chris Merrill | Web Performance, Inc. chris@... | http://webperformance.com 919-433-1762 | 919-845-7601 Website Load Testing and Stress Testing Software & Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... |
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