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LedgerSMB ReadinessWhat is the longest successful deployment of LedgerSMB? What trial and
tribulations did you go through? Is it worth the risk migrating to LedgerSMB from Peachtree? Why isn't LedgerSMB right for my company? What are the major bugs keeping me from deploying LedgerSMB? What other software would you put up against LedgerSMB for reliability? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Ledger-smb-users mailing list Ledger-smb-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ledger-smb-users |
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Re: LedgerSMB ReadinessOn 10/20/09 15:35, blck shp wrote:
>What is the longest successful deployment of LedgerSMB? What trial and >tribulations did you go through? > >Is it worth the risk migrating to LedgerSMB from Peachtree? > >Why isn't LedgerSMB right for my company? > >What are the major bugs keeping me from deploying LedgerSMB? > >What other software would you put up against LedgerSMB for reliability? Well, I posted several questions few weeks ago when I tried to migrate from SQL-Ledger to LedgerSMB but nobody answered my questions, and I'm familiar with installation of LedgerSMB and SQL-Ledger. So in real world if you get stuck you better plan for an alternative if you don't get any help. Maybe LedgerSMB does not have many users what is why it is hard to get any help. Just my 0.02c -- Joseph ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Ledger-smb-users mailing list Ledger-smb-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ledger-smb-users |
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Re: LedgerSMB ReadinessJoseph wrote:
> On 10/20/09 15:35, blck shp wrote: > >> What is the longest successful deployment of LedgerSMB? What trial and >> tribulations did you go through? >> >> Is it worth the risk migrating to LedgerSMB from Peachtree? >> >> Why isn't LedgerSMB right for my company? >> >> What are the major bugs keeping me from deploying LedgerSMB? >> >> What other software would you put up against LedgerSMB for reliability? >> > > Well, I posted several questions few weeks ago when I tried to migrate from SQL-Ledger to LedgerSMB but nobody answered my questions, and I'm familiar with > installation of LedgerSMB and SQL-Ledger. > So in real world if you get stuck you better plan for an alternative if you don't get any help. > Maybe LedgerSMB does not have many users what is why it is hard to get any help. > > Just my 0.02c > worth talking to the developers of a project and paying them for their assistance. I know that with my open source project a payment is a quick way to get my attention. Darren Wiebe darren@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Ledger-smb-users mailing list Ledger-smb-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ledger-smb-users |
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Re: LedgerSMB ReadinessOn Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:35 -0500, blck shp wrote:
> What is the longest successful deployment of LedgerSMB? What trial and > tribulations did you go through? No idea there, but we've been using it for around 18 months or so. The only major issue I had was getting to grips with (Ubuntu) Linux - I hadn't touched *nix since University, 20 years ago. Getting the data transferred from our old system required some SQL and/or programming or spreadsheet work or such - but at least the required info is readily available. > > Is it worth the risk migrating to LedgerSMB from Peachtree? (Bearing in mind that v1.3 has quite a lot of new features above current installations...) No idea, not having used Peachtree. If it has all (or most of) the features you need, I'd say give it a try. It costs nowt to have a play. > > Why isn't LedgerSMB right for my company? Possibly Linux support, maybe a some key feature missing? > > What are the major bugs keeping me from deploying LedgerSMB? > Compared to 18 months ago, there are very few bugs I've come across in v1.2.18. In fact only one I have found so far is only minor and related to a dbase restore anyway - though I should say we don't use the project related fetures, time cards etc. One of the LSMB highlights is rapid development and quick bug fixes. > What other software would you put up against LedgerSMB for reliability? Anything that's been 100% reliable. We've never had a crash or lost any data. I have some issues with Ubuntu upagrades, but LSMB has been rock solid. Cheers Richard > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > Ledger-smb-users mailing list > Ledger-smb-users@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ledger-smb-users I have become.......comfortably numb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Ledger-smb-users mailing list Ledger-smb-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ledger-smb-users |
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Re: LedgerSMB ReadinessOn 10/20/09 17:54, Darren Wiebe wrote:
>In my experience if you can't get any help or need it in a hurry it's >worth talking to the developers of a project and paying them for their >assistance. I know that with my open source project a payment is a >quick way to get my attention. > >Darren Wiebe >darren@... Yes, I would defiantly pay the developer but I was expecting some answers from ordinary users. I do not believe for a second that there is nobody on the mailing who did not come from SQL-Ledger and facing similar challenges going from one database to another. -- Joseph ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Ledger-smb-users mailing list Ledger-smb-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ledger-smb-users |
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Re: LedgerSMB ReadinessOn Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Joseph wrote:
> Yes, I would defiantly pay the developer but I was expecting some > answers from ordinary users. I do not believe for a second that there is > nobody on the mailing who did not come from SQL-Ledger and facing > similar challenges going from one database to another. I'm sure you're right. It may be that, as is the case with me, most of us who did it, did it a couple years ago. A whole heck of a lot happens in software and databases and such in the course of a few months, let alone a few years, and I simply don't remember. I know I had some problems, but what they were, whether they were connected to the migration or just the database version, or whatever, I simply have no idea. I knew that I had some installation problems, but those were rectified with a question or two to the list to clear up my confusion. I simply have no real idea what problems I had, and how I may have solved them; or whether they were the fault of me, SQL-Ledger, or LedgerSMB. I suspect it was mostly me, because it usually is, but as I said, I just don't remember. I got out of SQL-Ledger as soon as I thought LedgerSMB was mature enough to handle the needs of my business, and that was the end of that--what ever I had to go through to perform the transition was worth it to me. Sorry. Luke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Ledger-smb-users mailing list Ledger-smb-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ledger-smb-users |
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Re: LedgerSMB ReadinessJoseph wrote: > On 10/20/09 15:35, blck shp wrote: >> What is the longest successful deployment of LedgerSMB? What trial and >> tribulations did you go through? >> >> Is it worth the risk migrating to LedgerSMB from Peachtree? >> >> Why isn't LedgerSMB right for my company? >> >> What are the major bugs keeping me from deploying LedgerSMB? >> >> What other software would you put up against LedgerSMB for reliability? > > Well, I posted several questions few weeks ago when I tried to migrate from SQL-Ledger to LedgerSMB but nobody answered my questions, and I'm familiar with > installation of LedgerSMB and SQL-Ledger. > So in real world if you get stuck you better plan for an alternative if you don't get any help. > Maybe LedgerSMB does not have many users what is why it is hard to get any help. > > Just my 0.02c I started with SQL-ledger around 2002 and eventually migrated to LSMB on the basis that it is better maintained. If you didn't know, LSMB is a fork of SQL-Ledger. The maintainer of SQL-Ledger offered an annual support service which I found to be very useful. The maintainers of LSMB are far more approachable and I've paid for their help when I've got into trouble. (my own making for the most part). I've not found any bugs in the subset of LSMB that I use. It's reliable and works fine. Every system has strengths and weaknesses and unfortunately the only way to find out is to run it live for a few months. Previously I used MYOB. It was OK, but it was their way or the highway. I'm a fan of open source for that reason. For the record, over the years I've spent less money on support than I did on purchase and upgrades for MYOB. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Ledger-smb-users mailing list Ledger-smb-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ledger-smb-users |
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Re: LedgerSMB ReadinessOn Tue, 20 Oct 2009, blck shp wrote:
> What is the longest successful deployment of LedgerSMB? What trial and > tribulations did you go through? Most of my trials and tribulations were of my own making The most significant bugs I noticed with LedgerSMB itself, were non-critical errors. Example: "NaN" showing up as a credit limit value when it should have been a negative number. Example: weird problems with orders not representing items and such correctly, under certain circumstances with long orders. Other things like that. I have never, that I can recall, had an actual accounting problem in relation to LedgerSMB. > Is it worth the risk migrating to LedgerSMB from Peachtree? Personally, if I was in that situation, I might hold off until 1.3 is released, at least in beta. There are usability issues which some people used to non-web-interface products will have. Not everything is labeled well enough for non-accountants. There are an insufficient number of pre-designed transactions. What I mean by that (this is only an example with no basis in reality): let's say that in QuickBooks, you can enter a money order, which is really a multi step transaction series involving possibly two vendors and a couple of different dates, as a single transaction, by clicking "money order". (as far as I know, you can't.) If you want to move money between two bank accounts, you have to do a full transaction, whereas in WYSIWYG accounting packages you could just do a "bank transfer" or something. You can't create vendors and customers from invoice, order, and product screens. That is a real PITA. I have had these kind of comments from QuickBooks users who have had to use LedgerSMB--I imagine that the same would be true for PeachTree users. In short, the average employee has to understand more about double entry accounting, than the average employee generally understands about double entry accounting, in order to use the software effectively. Maybe that is different in 1.3: I have no idea, having not tried it. > Why isn't LedgerSMB right for my company? See above, with the understanding that it may all be invalidated by the new interface. > What are the major bugs keeping me from deploying LedgerSMB? Look at the Sourceforge bug tracker. > What other software would you put up against LedgerSMB for reliability? Hmm. The backend, nothing. I have administered QuickBooks systems for windowsie clients, and even with the improvements to their DBM, it doesn't hold a candle. I have no idea what PeachTree uses. That's the real reliability factor, and I don't really know how it could be improved upon. In general, I would commend the comments by Hugh Esco. Luke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Ledger-smb-users mailing list Ledger-smb-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ledger-smb-users |
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Re: LedgerSMB ReadinessI have short story:
Last year (2008) I installed SQL-ledger for some demo purposes, but as I have very small clue in accounting at that time and no need for real usage. It just sat on my PC without use. Installing was not easy as at that time I have small experience in Linux. I got also some help from mailing list, that fits to my problems. In the beginning of this year (thanks to the crisis) I needed some software from my accounting. At that time I also found LedgerSMB and decided to use it. Now I am feeling quite comfortably with it and accounting. But I need mostly AP and AR part with some money transactions. The support from users and developers from this list is o'k - let's say 4,5 from 5 points. I got most answers what I needed within a day. Some I asked twice and got the answer. But it could be also that I have some problems from my side in questions regarding language (I am not native English speaker) and have only superficial knowledge in accounting. About trials I would agree with Hugh Esco - went through the same. And if you move from a desktop application, you (and your other users) will need to learn how the web pages in this case works. Also I would recommend to make trial installation and make a trial accounting. Note on web browsers - had some issues with IE when using non English. brgds Janeks On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:35 -0500, blck shp wrote: > What is the longest successful deployment of LedgerSMB? What trial and > tribulations did you go through? > > Is it worth the risk migrating to LedgerSMB from Peachtree? > > Why isn't LedgerSMB right for my company? > > What are the major bugs keeping me from deploying LedgerSMB? > > What other software would you put up against LedgerSMB for reliability? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > Ledger-smb-users mailing list > Ledger-smb-users@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ledger-smb-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Ledger-smb-users mailing list Ledger-smb-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ledger-smb-users |
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