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by Alexandre Leroux-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi list,

I'm new to this list. I have a fairly simple question but I haven't been
able to find an answer on the GeoRSS website, Wikipedia or elsewhere.

Is there a list of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients? I know many tools can
display GeoRSS items on a webmap, but are there GeoRSS clients that can
automatically filter RSS items based on geographic criteria (e.g.
buffers, polygons, etc)?

I want an easy to use client that I can recommend for use by the general
public. Better if the client is open source, but free can be an
alternative I guess.


I'm away for a few days but will sum up answers and share back if
appropriate.


Thanks a lot!

Alex
http://slashgeo.org
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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Alexandre Leroux-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi list,

I'm surprised I haven't got any answer so far (see previous post below).
Does this mean there is no such GeoRSS clients?! If true, then there's
still a lot of work to do before GeoRSS becomes mainstream!

Have a great day! :-)

Alex
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On 02/18/09 14:32, Alexandre Leroux wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> I'm new to this list. I have a fairly simple question but I haven't been
> able to find an answer on the GeoRSS website, Wikipedia or elsewhere.
>
> Is there a list of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients? I know many tools can
> display GeoRSS items on a webmap, but are there GeoRSS clients that can
> automatically filter RSS items based on geographic criteria (e.g.
> buffers, polygons, etc)?
>
> I want an easy to use client that I can recommend for use by the general
> public. Better if the client is open source, but free can be an
> alternative I guess.
>
>
> I'm away for a few days but will sum up answers and share back if
> appropriate.
>
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Alex
> http://slashgeo.org
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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Raj Singh-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Geographic filtering isn't part of any RSS subscription specification,  
so it's doubtful that any client could do something like this since no  
servers would understand the request. This would obviously be a very  
valuable feature, and it could be described in a "GeoRSS Publication"  
specification, but no such thing exists today.
---
Raj


On Feb 18, at 2:32 PM, Alexandre Leroux wrote:

>
> Hi list,
>
> I'm new to this list. I have a fairly simple question but I haven't  
> been
> able to find an answer on the GeoRSS website, Wikipedia or elsewhere.
>
> Is there a list of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients? I know many tools can
> display GeoRSS items on a webmap, but are there GeoRSS clients that  
> can
> automatically filter RSS items based on geographic criteria (e.g.
> buffers, polygons, etc)?
>
> I want an easy to use client that I can recommend for use by the  
> general
> public. Better if the client is open source, but free can be an
> alternative I guess.
>
>
> I'm away for a few days but will sum up answers and share back if
> appropriate.
>
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Alex
> http://slashgeo.org
> --
> Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., Ing.
> Environnement Canada / Environment Canada
> Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre
> Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales /
> Environmental Emergency Response Section
> alexandre.leroux@...
> _______________________________________________
> georss mailing list
> georss@...
> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss

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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Alexandre Leroux-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Thanks a lot Raj,

I understand that at the moment because of the specification itself,
this can't be done server-side. But once the GeoRSS items are retrieved
by the client, they can be geographically filtered on the client-side -
that's what I was looking for. It seems, to my surprise, that no GeoRSS
clients offer this feature yet...

Thanks Raj and have a great day!

Alex
--
Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., Ing.
Environnement Canada / Environment Canada
Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre
Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales /
Environmental Emergency Response Section
alexandre.leroux@...


On 02/23/09 15:47, Raj Singh wrote:

> Geographic filtering isn't part of any RSS subscription specification,
> so it's doubtful that any client could do something like this since no
> servers would understand the request. This would obviously be a very
> valuable feature, and it could be described in a "GeoRSS Publication"
> specification, but no such thing exists today.
> ---
> Raj
>
>
> On Feb 18, at 2:32 PM, Alexandre Leroux wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I'm new to this list. I have a fairly simple question but I haven't been
>> able to find an answer on the GeoRSS website, Wikipedia or elsewhere.
>>
>> Is there a list of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients? I know many tools can
>> display GeoRSS items on a webmap, but are there GeoRSS clients that can
>> automatically filter RSS items based on geographic criteria (e.g.
>> buffers, polygons, etc)?
>>
>> I want an easy to use client that I can recommend for use by the general
>> public. Better if the client is open source, but free can be an
>> alternative I guess.
>>
>>
>> I'm away for a few days but will sum up answers and share back if
>> appropriate.
>>
>>
>> Thanks a lot!
>>
>> Alex
>> http://slashgeo.org
>> --
>> Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., Ing.
>> Environnement Canada / Environment Canada
>> Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre
>> Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales /
>> Environmental Emergency Response Section
>> alexandre.leroux@...
>> _______________________________________________
>> georss mailing list
>> georss@...
>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>
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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Christopher Schmidt :: Rate this Message:

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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 03:47:43PM -0500, Raj Singh wrote:
> Geographic filtering isn't part of any RSS subscription specification,

Actually, it is. OpenSearch Geo is centered around exactly this... but I
haven't found any useful OpenSearch Geo consumers either, despite spending
a chunk of a day looking a couple weeks aog.

> so it's doubtful that any client could do something like this since no  
> servers would understand the request. This would obviously be a very  
> valuable feature, and it could be described in a "GeoRSS Publication"  
> specification, but no such thing exists today.
> ---
> Raj
>
>
> On Feb 18, at 2:32 PM, Alexandre Leroux wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I'm new to this list. I have a fairly simple question but I haven't  
> > been
> > able to find an answer on the GeoRSS website, Wikipedia or elsewhere.
> >
> > Is there a list of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients? I know many tools can
> > display GeoRSS items on a webmap, but are there GeoRSS clients that  
> > can
> > automatically filter RSS items based on geographic criteria (e.g.
> > buffers, polygons, etc)?
> >
> > I want an easy to use client that I can recommend for use by the  
> > general
> > public. Better if the client is open source, but free can be an
> > alternative I guess.
> >
> >
> > I'm away for a few days but will sum up answers and share back if
> > appropriate.
> >
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> > Alex
> > http://slashgeo.org
> > --
> > Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., Ing.
> > Environnement Canada / Environment Canada
> > Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre
> > Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales /
> > Environmental Emergency Response Section
> > alexandre.leroux@...
> > _______________________________________________
> > georss mailing list
> > georss@...
> > http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Carl Reed :: Rate this Message:

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Alexandre -

Before giving up, let me ask the entire OGC membership. There may be
something out there.

Cheers

Carl

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To: "Raj Singh" <raj@...>
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Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [georss] List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?


>
> Thanks a lot Raj,
>
> I understand that at the moment because of the specification itself,
> this can't be done server-side. But once the GeoRSS items are retrieved
> by the client, they can be geographically filtered on the client-side -
> that's what I was looking for. It seems, to my surprise, that no GeoRSS
> clients offer this feature yet...
>
> Thanks Raj and have a great day!
>
> Alex
> --
> Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., Ing.
> Environnement Canada / Environment Canada
> Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre
> Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales /
> Environmental Emergency Response Section
> alexandre.leroux@...
>
>
> On 02/23/09 15:47, Raj Singh wrote:
>> Geographic filtering isn't part of any RSS subscription specification,
>> so it's doubtful that any client could do something like this since no
>> servers would understand the request. This would obviously be a very
>> valuable feature, and it could be described in a "GeoRSS Publication"
>> specification, but no such thing exists today.
>> ---
>> Raj
>>
>>
>> On Feb 18, at 2:32 PM, Alexandre Leroux wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> I'm new to this list. I have a fairly simple question but I haven't been
>>> able to find an answer on the GeoRSS website, Wikipedia or elsewhere.
>>>
>>> Is there a list of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients? I know many tools can
>>> display GeoRSS items on a webmap, but are there GeoRSS clients that can
>>> automatically filter RSS items based on geographic criteria (e.g.
>>> buffers, polygons, etc)?
>>>
>>> I want an easy to use client that I can recommend for use by the general
>>> public. Better if the client is open source, but free can be an
>>> alternative I guess.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm away for a few days but will sum up answers and share back if
>>> appropriate.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>
>>> Alex
>>> http://slashgeo.org
>>> --
>>> Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., Ing.
>>> Environnement Canada / Environment Canada
>>> Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre
>>> Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales /
>>> Environmental Emergency Response Section
>>> alexandre.leroux@...
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> georss mailing list
>>> georss@...
>>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Raj Singh-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Might want to check out ArcWeb Explorer (support might be better than  
in 2006):
http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/2006/08/04/georss-in-arcweb-explorer/
---
Raj


On Feb 23, at 3:59 PM, Alexandre Leroux wrote:

>
> Thanks a lot Raj,
>
> I understand that at the moment because of the specification itself,  
> this can't be done server-side. But once the GeoRSS items are  
> retrieved by the client, they can be geographically filtered on the  
> client-side - that's what I was looking for. It seems, to my  
> surprise, that no GeoRSS clients offer this feature yet...
>
> Thanks Raj and have a great day!
>
> Alex
> --
> Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., Ing.
> Environnement Canada / Environment Canada
> Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre
> Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales /
> Environmental Emergency Response Section
> alexandre.leroux@...
>
>
> On 02/23/09 15:47, Raj Singh wrote:
>> Geographic filtering isn't part of any RSS subscription  
>> specification, so it's doubtful that any client could do something  
>> like this since no servers would understand the request. This would  
>> obviously be a very valuable feature, and it could be described in  
>> a "GeoRSS Publication" specification, but no such thing exists today.
>> ---
>> Raj
>> On Feb 18, at 2:32 PM, Alexandre Leroux wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> I'm new to this list. I have a fairly simple question but I  
>>> haven't been
>>> able to find an answer on the GeoRSS website, Wikipedia or  
>>> elsewhere.
>>>
>>> Is there a list of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients? I know many tools can
>>> display GeoRSS items on a webmap, but are there GeoRSS clients  
>>> that can
>>> automatically filter RSS items based on geographic criteria (e.g.
>>> buffers, polygons, etc)?
>>>
>>> I want an easy to use client that I can recommend for use by the  
>>> general
>>> public. Better if the client is open source, but free can be an
>>> alternative I guess.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm away for a few days but will sum up answers and share back if
>>> appropriate.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>
>>> Alex
>>> http://slashgeo.org
>>> --
>>> Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., Ing.
>>> Environnement Canada / Environment Canada
>>> Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre
>>> Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales /
>>> Environmental Emergency Response Section
>>> alexandre.leroux@...
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> georss mailing list
>>> georss@...
>>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss

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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Raj Singh-2 :: Rate this Message:

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But is OpenSearch Geo part of any RSS subscription spec? And on a side  
note, is there any RSS subscription spec other than AtomPub?
---
Raj


On Feb 23, at 4:02 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 03:47:43PM -0500, Raj Singh wrote:
>> Geographic filtering isn't part of any RSS subscription  
>> specification,
>
> Actually, it is. OpenSearch Geo is centered around exactly this...  
> but I
> haven't found any useful OpenSearch Geo consumers either, despite  
> spending
> a chunk of a day looking a couple weeks aog.
>
>> so it's doubtful that any client could do something like this since  
>> no
>> servers would understand the request. This would obviously be a very
>> valuable feature, and it could be described in a "GeoRSS Publication"
>> specification, but no such thing exists today.
>> ---
>> Raj
>>
>>
>> On Feb 18, at 2:32 PM, Alexandre Leroux wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> I'm new to this list. I have a fairly simple question but I haven't
>>> been
>>> able to find an answer on the GeoRSS website, Wikipedia or  
>>> elsewhere.
>>>
>>> Is there a list of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients? I know many tools can
>>> display GeoRSS items on a webmap, but are there GeoRSS clients that
>>> can
>>> automatically filter RSS items based on geographic criteria (e.g.
>>> buffers, polygons, etc)?
>>>
>>> I want an easy to use client that I can recommend for use by the
>>> general
>>> public. Better if the client is open source, but free can be an
>>> alternative I guess.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm away for a few days but will sum up answers and share back if
>>> appropriate.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>
>>> Alex
>>> http://slashgeo.org
>>> --
>>> Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., Ing.
>>> Environnement Canada / Environment Canada
>>> Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre
>>> Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales /
>>> Environmental Emergency Response Section
>>> alexandre.leroux@...
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> georss mailing list
>>> georss@...
>>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> georss mailing list
>> georss@...
>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>
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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Allan Doyle-3 :: Rate this Message:

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But wait.

Isn't this just a case of someone building a smart aggregator? How is  
this any different than a Technorati search which itself can be viewed  
as an RSS feed?
e.g. http://technorati.com/search/italy?language=n
vs. http://feeds.technorati.com/search/italy?language=n

Someone can build an aggregation engine that gets seeded with GeoRSS  
feeds (which could be discovered by crawling or could be manually  
entered) and that provides a means of specifying a filter. The output  
itself would then be a constrained GeoRSS feed that matches the  
criteria.

Maybe it would be nice to have a spec for this, but why not build an  
instance or two before thinking about a spec?

        Allan

On Feb 23, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Raj Singh wrote:

> But is OpenSearch Geo part of any RSS subscription spec? And on a side
> note, is there any RSS subscription spec other than AtomPub?
> ---
> Raj
>
>
> On Feb 23, at 4:02 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 03:47:43PM -0500, Raj Singh wrote:
>>> Geographic filtering isn't part of any RSS subscription
>>> specification,
>>
>> Actually, it is. OpenSearch Geo is centered around exactly this...
>> but I
>> haven't found any useful OpenSearch Geo consumers either, despite
>> spending
>> a chunk of a day looking a couple weeks aog.
>>
>>> so it's doubtful that any client could do something like this since
>>> no
>>> servers would understand the request. This would obviously be a very
>>> valuable feature, and it could be described in a "GeoRSS  
>>> Publication"
>>> specification, but no such thing exists today.
>>> ---
>>> Raj
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 18, at 2:32 PM, Alexandre Leroux wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi list,
>>>>
>>>> I'm new to this list. I have a fairly simple question but I haven't
>>>> been
>>>> able to find an answer on the GeoRSS website, Wikipedia or
>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a list of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients? I know many tools can
>>>> display GeoRSS items on a webmap, but are there GeoRSS clients that
>>>> can
>>>> automatically filter RSS items based on geographic criteria (e.g.
>>>> buffers, polygons, etc)?
>>>>
>>>> I want an easy to use client that I can recommend for use by the
>>>> general
>>>> public. Better if the client is open source, but free can be an
>>>> alternative I guess.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm away for a few days but will sum up answers and share back if
>>>> appropriate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>> http://slashgeo.org
>>>> --
>>>> Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., Ing.
>>>> Environnement Canada / Environment Canada
>>>> Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre
>>>> Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales /
>>>> Environmental Emergency Response Section
>>>> alexandre.leroux@...
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> georss mailing list
>>>> georss@...
>>>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> georss mailing list
>>> georss@...
>>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>
>> --
>> Christopher Schmidt
>> Web Developer
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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 04:13:32PM -0500, Raj Singh wrote:
> But is OpenSearch Geo part of any RSS subscription spec? And on a side  
> note, is there any RSS subscription spec other than AtomPub?

Um, "RSS Subscription Spec"? You ahve a URL. You subscribe to it.
OpenSearch is a way of defining how you find the URL to subscribe to
based on a search -- that search can optionally have terms, or could
have just a bounding box. I don't think there is the need for a 'spec'
for this, and I don't think AtomPub is a spec for it. (OpenSearch is,
though.)

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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Pat Cappelaere :: Rate this Message:

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Agree.  The specs are already there.
It is up to the client to support GeoRSS for output and OpenSearch for  
filtering.
And then put the results on the map.

Pat.

On Feb 23, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Allan Doyle wrote:

> But wait.
>
> Isn't this just a case of someone building a smart aggregator? How is
> this any different than a Technorati search which itself can be viewed
> as an RSS feed?
> e.g. http://technorati.com/search/italy?language=n
> vs. http://feeds.technorati.com/search/italy?language=n
>
> Someone can build an aggregation engine that gets seeded with GeoRSS
> feeds (which could be discovered by crawling or could be manually
> entered) and that provides a means of specifying a filter. The output
> itself would then be a constrained GeoRSS feed that matches the
> criteria.
>
> Maybe it would be nice to have a spec for this, but why not build an
> instance or two before thinking about a spec?
>
> Allan
>
> On Feb 23, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Raj Singh wrote:
>
>> But is OpenSearch Geo part of any RSS subscription spec? And on a  
>> side
>> note, is there any RSS subscription spec other than AtomPub?
>> ---
>> Raj
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, at 4:02 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 03:47:43PM -0500, Raj Singh wrote:
>>>> Geographic filtering isn't part of any RSS subscription
>>>> specification,
>>>
>>> Actually, it is. OpenSearch Geo is centered around exactly this...
>>> but I
>>> haven't found any useful OpenSearch Geo consumers either, despite
>>> spending
>>> a chunk of a day looking a couple weeks aog.
>>>
>>>> so it's doubtful that any client could do something like this since
>>>> no
>>>> servers would understand the request. This would obviously be a  
>>>> very
>>>> valuable feature, and it could be described in a "GeoRSS
>>>> Publication"
>>>> specification, but no such thing exists today.
>>>> ---
>>>> Raj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 18, at 2:32 PM, Alexandre Leroux wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi list,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm new to this list. I have a fairly simple question but I  
>>>>> haven't
>>>>> been
>>>>> able to find an answer on the GeoRSS website, Wikipedia or
>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a list of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients? I know many tools  
>>>>> can
>>>>> display GeoRSS items on a webmap, but are there GeoRSS clients  
>>>>> that
>>>>> can
>>>>> automatically filter RSS items based on geographic criteria (e.g.
>>>>> buffers, polygons, etc)?
>>>>>
>>>>> I want an easy to use client that I can recommend for use by the
>>>>> general
>>>>> public. Better if the client is open source, but free can be an
>>>>> alternative I guess.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm away for a few days but will sum up answers and share back if
>>>>> appropriate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>> http://slashgeo.org
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., Ing.
>>>>> Environnement Canada / Environment Canada
>>>>> Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre
>>>>> Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales /
>>>>> Environmental Emergency Response Section
>>>>> alexandre.leroux@...
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> georss mailing list
>>>>> georss@...
>>>>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> georss mailing list
>>>> georss@...
>>>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christopher Schmidt
>>> Web Developer
>>
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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Raj Singh-2 :: Rate this Message:

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The GeoRSS publication spec could be very short. It might basically  
say, "if you have a GeoRSS feed, support OpenSearch Geo." There would  
be some details to add, but that's generally it.

I'm going on memory, but I think AtomPub talks about using URL  
templating as one way of publishing collections, which plays well with  
OpenSearch, but there's no strong guidance.

I used to have an implementation of GeoRSS with spatial bbox search,  
but my server was decommissioned last year. Maybe I'll try to get that  
back online tonight.
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On Feb 23, at 4:44 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 04:13:32PM -0500, Raj Singh wrote:
>> But is OpenSearch Geo part of any RSS subscription spec? And on a  
>> side
>> note, is there any RSS subscription spec other than AtomPub?
>
> Um, "RSS Subscription Spec"? You ahve a URL. You subscribe to it.
> OpenSearch is a way of defining how you find the URL to subscribe to
> based on a search -- that search can optionally have terms, or could
> have just a bounding box. I don't think there is the need for a 'spec'
> for this, and I don't think AtomPub is a spec for it. (OpenSearch is,
> though.)
>
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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

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On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:44 PM, Raj Singh wrote:

> The GeoRSS publication spec could be very short. It might basically
> say, "if you have a GeoRSS feed, support OpenSearch Geo." There would
> be some details to add, but that's generally it.
>
> I'm going on memory, but I think AtomPub talks about using URL
> templating as one way of publishing collections, which plays well with
> OpenSearch, but there's no strong guidance.

Search is not covered in RFC 5023, though feed paging is.

There has been discussion on atom-syntax about a link rel="search".  
With such a thing, you'd include a link to an opensearch description  
resource from any Atom feed or collection.

http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/mail-archive/msg20742.html

For example:

<feed>
   <link
     rel="self"
     href="http://example.com/collection"
     type="application/atom+xml"
     />
   <link
     rel="search"
     href="http://example.com/collection/search"
     type="application/opensearchdescription+xml"
     />
   ...
</feed>

>
>
> I used to have an implementation of GeoRSS with spatial bbox search,
> but my server was decommissioned last year. Maybe I'll try to get that
> back online tonight.
> ---
> Raj




>
>
>
> On Feb 23, at 4:44 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 04:13:32PM -0500, Raj Singh wrote:
>>> But is OpenSearch Geo part of any RSS subscription spec? And on a
>>> side
>>> note, is there any RSS subscription spec other than AtomPub?
>>
>> Um, "RSS Subscription Spec"? You ahve a URL. You subscribe to it.
>> OpenSearch is a way of defining how you find the URL to subscribe to
>> based on a search -- that search can optionally have terms, or could
>> have just a bounding box. I don't think there is the need for a  
>> 'spec'
>> for this, and I don't think AtomPub is a spec for it. (OpenSearch is,
>> though.)
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Pat Cappelaere :: Rate this Message:

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Raj,

Atompub allows for discovery of collections via the service document.

Once you go to the specific collection page, the html header would  
contain a link to the OpenSearch description document.
I also like what Sean is proposing... I might add that to our feeds :)

Pat.

On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Raj Singh wrote:

> The GeoRSS publication spec could be very short. It might basically
> say, "if you have a GeoRSS feed, support OpenSearch Geo." There would
> be some details to add, but that's generally it.
>
> I'm going on memory, but I think AtomPub talks about using URL
> templating as one way of publishing collections, which plays well with
> OpenSearch, but there's no strong guidance.
>
> I used to have an implementation of GeoRSS with spatial bbox search,
> but my server was decommissioned last year. Maybe I'll try to get that
> back online tonight.
> ---
> Raj
>
>
> On Feb 23, at 4:44 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 04:13:32PM -0500, Raj Singh wrote:
>>> But is OpenSearch Geo part of any RSS subscription spec? And on a
>>> side
>>> note, is there any RSS subscription spec other than AtomPub?
>>
>> Um, "RSS Subscription Spec"? You ahve a URL. You subscribe to it.
>> OpenSearch is a way of defining how you find the URL to subscribe to
>> based on a search -- that search can optionally have terms, or could
>> have just a bounding box. I don't think there is the need for a  
>> 'spec'
>> for this, and I don't think AtomPub is a spec for it. (OpenSearch is,
>> though.)
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Christopher Schmidt
>> Web Developer
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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

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Well, this would be one approach - and a good one. But other approaches
would also work.

Cheers

Carl

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> The GeoRSS publication spec could be very short. It might basically
> say, "if you have a GeoRSS feed, support OpenSearch Geo." There would
> be some details to add, but that's generally it.
>
> I'm going on memory, but I think AtomPub talks about using URL
> templating as one way of publishing collections, which plays well with
> OpenSearch, but there's no strong guidance.
>
> I used to have an implementation of GeoRSS with spatial bbox search,
> but my server was decommissioned last year. Maybe I'll try to get that
> back online tonight.
> ---
> Raj
>
>
> On Feb 23, at 4:44 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 04:13:32PM -0500, Raj Singh wrote:
>>> But is OpenSearch Geo part of any RSS subscription spec? And on a
>>> side
>>> note, is there any RSS subscription spec other than AtomPub?
>>
>> Um, "RSS Subscription Spec"? You ahve a URL. You subscribe to it.
>> OpenSearch is a way of defining how you find the URL to subscribe to
>> based on a search -- that search can optionally have terms, or could
>> have just a bounding box. I don't think there is the need for a 'spec'
>> for this, and I don't think AtomPub is a spec for it. (OpenSearch is,
>> though.)
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Christopher Schmidt
>> Web Developer
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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Raj Singh-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Yeah that's what I was trying to remember!
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On Feb 23, at 6:02 PM, Pat Cappelaere wrote:

> Raj,
>
> Atompub allows for discovery of collections via the service document.
>
> Once you go to the specific collection page, the html header would
> contain a link to the OpenSearch description document.

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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Raj Singh-2 :: Rate this Message:

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OK here's a feed that supports bbox, maxfeatures, and coordinate re-
projection...
http://www.rajsingh.org/service/uscities.html
---
Raj


On Feb 23, at 5:44 PM, Raj Singh wrote:

> I used to have an implementation of GeoRSS with spatial bbox search,
> but my server was decommissioned last year. Maybe I'll try to get that
> back online tonight.

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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

by Jason Birch-2 :: Rate this Message:

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2009/2/23 Sean Gillies <sgillies@...>
There has been discussion on atom-syntax about a link rel="search".
With such a thing, you'd include a link to an opensearch description
resource from any Atom feed or collection.

http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/mail-archive/msg20742.html

Oh, that would be cool. Better than using different values in Atom and HTML (see "canonical" vs "self").

If this was adopted then it could be used in KML too.  Well, it could be if you're willing (as I am) to ignore the part of the OGC spec that constrains relationship types.

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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

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It would be cool if you were supporting OpenSearch.
Now if you are not,  what would you put in there?
[since I am all for OpenSearch, I don't really care if you spec it, you may have to]

[If you do use OpenSearch, that link is not really necessary anyway since the it will be in the html page for the browsers to find, but it is not a bad idea either...]

Pat.
 
On Feb 23, 2009, at 10:01 PM, Jason Birch wrote:

2009/2/23 Sean Gillies <sgillies@...>
There has been discussion on atom-syntax about a link rel="search".
With such a thing, you'd include a link to an opensearch description
resource from any Atom feed or collection.

http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/mail-archive/msg20742.html

Oh, that would be cool. Better than using different values in Atom and HTML (see "canonical" vs "self").

If this was adopted then it could be used in KML too.  Well, it could be if you're willing (as I am) to ignore the part of the OGC spec that constrains relationship types.

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Re: List of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients?

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Wouldnt that be

http://mapufacture.com/

? ;)

The output formats seem to be rather sparsely documented, but I think
there is some spatial query possibities there.

On 23/02/2009, Allan Doyle <afdoyle@...> wrote:

> But wait.
>
>  Isn't this just a case of someone building a smart aggregator? How is
>  this any different than a Technorati search which itself can be viewed
>  as an RSS feed?
>  e.g. http://technorati.com/search/italy?language=n
>  vs. http://feeds.technorati.com/search/italy?language=n
>
>  Someone can build an aggregation engine that gets seeded with GeoRSS
>  feeds (which could be discovered by crawling or could be manually
>  entered) and that provides a means of specifying a filter. The output
>  itself would then be a constrained GeoRSS feed that matches the
>  criteria.
>
>  Maybe it would be nice to have a spec for this, but why not build an
>  instance or two before thinking about a spec?
>
>         Allan
>
>
>  On Feb 23, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Raj Singh wrote:
>
>  > But is OpenSearch Geo part of any RSS subscription spec? And on a side
>  > note, is there any RSS subscription spec other than AtomPub?
>  > ---
>  > Raj
>  >
>  >
>  > On Feb 23, at 4:02 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
>  >
>  >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 03:47:43PM -0500, Raj Singh wrote:
>  >>> Geographic filtering isn't part of any RSS subscription
>  >>> specification,
>  >>
>  >> Actually, it is. OpenSearch Geo is centered around exactly this...
>  >> but I
>  >> haven't found any useful OpenSearch Geo consumers either, despite
>  >> spending
>  >> a chunk of a day looking a couple weeks aog.
>  >>
>  >>> so it's doubtful that any client could do something like this since
>  >>> no
>  >>> servers would understand the request. This would obviously be a very
>  >>> valuable feature, and it could be described in a "GeoRSS
>  >>> Publication"
>  >>> specification, but no such thing exists today.
>  >>> ---
>  >>> Raj
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> On Feb 18, at 2:32 PM, Alexandre Leroux wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Hi list,
>  >>>>
>  >>>> I'm new to this list. I have a fairly simple question but I haven't
>  >>>> been
>  >>>> able to find an answer on the GeoRSS website, Wikipedia or
>  >>>> elsewhere.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Is there a list of 'advanced' GeoRSS clients? I know many tools can
>  >>>> display GeoRSS items on a webmap, but are there GeoRSS clients that
>  >>>> can
>  >>>> automatically filter RSS items based on geographic criteria (e.g.
>  >>>> buffers, polygons, etc)?
>  >>>>
>  >>>> I want an easy to use client that I can recommend for use by the
>  >>>> general
>  >>>> public. Better if the client is open source, but free can be an
>  >>>> alternative I guess.
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> I'm away for a few days but will sum up answers and share back if
>  >>>> appropriate.
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Thanks a lot!
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Alex
>  >>>> http://slashgeo.org
>  >>>> --
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