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List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereHi!
Plugin and host authors and those who happen to know this: please reply with at least 1 host or plugin(-set) and the provided or required features/extensions. I will then see that all that appears on the wiki. If Dave provides a template, I should be able to write the RDF files for the hosts. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereOn Sun, 2009-11-08 at 21:25 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> Hi! > > Plugin and host authors and those who happen to know this: please reply > with at least 1 host or plugin(-set) and the provided or required > features/extensions. > > I will then see that all that appears on the wiki. > > If Dave provides a template, I should be able to write the RDF files for > the hosts. Do not bother with plugins, as this information is already in the RDF for plugins. For hosts, we just need to know what extensions are supported (by URI) as of what version. Cheers, -dr _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours herezynjacku-5 (synth host): rtmempool - http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/rtmempool/v1 uri_map - http://lv2plug.in/ns/ext/uri-map event ports - http://lv2plug.in/ns/ext/event dynparams - http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1 contexts - http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/contexts msgcontext - http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/contexts#MessageContext stringport - http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/string-port#StringTransfer progress - http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/progress external_ui - http://lv2plug.in/ns/extensions/ui#external gtk_ui - http://lv2plug.in/ns/extensions/ui#GtkUI" dynmanifest - http://naspro.atheme.org/rdf/old-dman#DynManifest lv2rack-5 (effect host): rtmempool - http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/rtmempool/v1 dynparams - http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1 contexts - http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/contexts msgcontext - http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/contexts#MessageContext stringport - http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/string-port#StringTransfer progress - http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/progress external_ui - http://lv2plug.in/ns/extensions/ui#external gtk_ui - http://lv2plug.in/ns/extensions/ui#GtkUI" dynmanifest - http://naspro.atheme.org/rdf/old-dman#DynManifest Notes: * For both zynjacku and lv2rack, dynparams and rtmempool (currently part of dynparams) extensions are available only if configure detected them. * Dynmanifest support in version 5 (and maybe even for latest git) is for an old version of dynmanifest. * The context, msgcontext and stringport extension support may be suboptimal. It was introduced in order to support calf plugins. -- Nedko Arnaudov <GnuPG KeyID: DE1716B0> _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours here2009/11/8 Nedko Arnaudov <nedko@...>:
> * Dynmanifest support in version 5 (and maybe even for latest git) is > for an old version of dynmanifest. Git version is for the current version ;-) Stefano _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereOn Sun, 2009-11-08 at 21:25 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> Hi! > > Plugin and host authors and those who happen to know this: please reply > with at least 1 host or plugin(-set) and the provided or required > features/extensions. > > I will then see that all that appears on the wiki. > > If Dave provides a template, I should be able to write the RDF files for > the hosts. Here is a specification for this: http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/host-info.lv2/host-info.html There's an example in the docs. -dr _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereOn Sun, 2009-11-08 at 21:25 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> Hi! > > Plugin and host authors and those who happen to know this: please reply > with at least 1 host or plugin(-set) and the provided or required > features/extensions. > > I will then see that all that appears on the wiki. > > If Dave provides a template, I should be able to write the RDF files for > the hosts. Here are two: http://svn.drobilla.net/lad/trunk/ingen/ingen.ttl http://subversion.ardour.org/svn/ardour2/branches/3.0/ardour-3.ttl Anyone interested in helping, all we need is one of these for every app Cheers, -dr P.S. The DOAP stuff (other than doap:name) isn't necessary, but I figured I might as well make a decent description while I'm at it. Some day I'll write some scripts to extract ChangeLog, NEWS, README, and all the rest from a single nice description file... _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereNedko Arnaudov <nedko@...> writes:
> zynjacku-5 (synth host): > > rtmempool - http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/rtmempool/v1 > uri_map - http://lv2plug.in/ns/ext/uri-map > event ports - http://lv2plug.in/ns/ext/event > dynparams - http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1 > contexts - http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/contexts > msgcontext - http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/contexts#MessageContext > stringport - http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/string-port#StringTransfer > progress - http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/progress > external_ui - http://lv2plug.in/ns/extensions/ui#external > gtk_ui - http://lv2plug.in/ns/extensions/ui#GtkUI" > dynmanifest - http://naspro.atheme.org/rdf/old-dman#DynManifest midi_event - http://lv2plug.in/ns/ext/midi#MidiEvent midi_port - http://ll-plugins.nongnu.org/lv2/ext/MidiPort midi_port is deprecated, midi_event should be used for new plugins. -- Nedko Arnaudov <GnuPG KeyID: DE1716B0> _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereHi!
So here's a preliminary zynjacku.ttl attached. I would really like to see http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/host-info#sinceVersion used, but that would be left to Nedko in this case. Or a source/release archaeologist. Though, there's a question: one ttl per host, or per host version? -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ @prefix doap: <http://usefulinc.com/ns/doap#> . @prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> . @prefix rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> . @prefix foaf: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/> . @prefix hi: <http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/host-info#> . <http://home.gna.org/zynjacku/software/ingen> a doap:Project, hi:Host ; doap:name "Zynjacku" ; doap:revision "5.0" ; doap:shortdesc "A host for LV2 Plugins." ; doap:homepage <http://home.gna.org/zynjacku/> ; doap:bug-database <https://gna.org/bugs/?group=zynjacku> ; doap:license <http://usefulinc.com/doap/licenses/gpl> ; doap:developer [ a foaf:Person ; foaf:name "Nedko Arnaudov" ; rdfs:seeAlso <http://nedko.arnaudov.name/foaf.rdf> ; foaf:mbox <mailto:nedko@...> ; foaf:mbox_sha1sum "0eec3ceb427be759748f6693a6663a0b" ; foaf:homepage <http://nedko.arnaudov.name/> ; ] ; doap:developer [ a foaf:Person ; foaf:name "Krzysztof Foltman" ; foaf:mbox <mailto:wdev@...> ; foaf:mbox_sha1sum "335c21a4a6d1b0e8f0295fbf494bc89e" ; foaf:homepage <http://www.linkedin.com/in/kfoltman> ; ] ; doap:programming-language "C", "Python" ; doap:repository [ a doap:GitRepository ; doap:location <http://repo.or.cz/w/zynjacku.git> ] ; hi:supportsExtension [ hi:extension <http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/contexts> ; ] , [ hi:extension <http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/contexts#MessageContext> ; ] , [ hi:extension <http://naspro.atheme.org/rdf/old-dman#DynManifest> ; ] , [ hi:extension <http://lv2plug.in/ns/ext/event> ; ] , [ hi:extension <http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1> ; ] , [ hi:extension <http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/rtmempool/v1> ; ] , [ hi:extension <http://lv2plug.in/ns/ext/midi#MidiEvent> ; ] , [ hi:extension <http://ll-plugins.nongnu.org/lv2/ext/MidiPort> ; ] , [ hi:extension <http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/progress> ; ] , [ hi:extension <http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/string-port#StringTransfer> ; ] , [ hi:extension <http://lv2plug.in/ns/extensions/ui#external> ; ] , [ hi:extension <http://lv2plug.in/ns/extensions/ui#GtkUI> ; ] , [ hi:extension <http://lv2plug.in/ns/ext/uri-map> ; ] ; doap:description """ Zynjacku is JACK based, GTK (2.x) host for LV2 synths. It has one JACK MIDI input port (routed to all hosted synths) and one (two for stereo synths) JACK audio output port per plugin. Such design provides multi-timbral sound by running several synth plugins. Zynjacku is a nunchaku weapon for JACK audio synthesis. You have solid parts for synthesis itself and you have flexible part that allows synthesis to suit your needs. """ . _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereOn Mon, 2009-11-09 at 18:47 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> Hi! > > So here's a preliminary zynjacku.ttl attached. > > I would really like to see > http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/host-info#sinceVersion > used, but that would be left to Nedko in this case. Or a source/release > archaeologist. Though, there's a question: one ttl per host, or per host > version? Typically one file with a bunch of versions listed. -dr _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereOn Sun, 2009-11-08 at 17:00 -0500, David Robillard wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-11-08 at 21:25 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Plugin and host authors and those who happen to know this: please reply > > with at least 1 host or plugin(-set) and the provided or required > > features/extensions. > > > > I will then see that all that appears on the wiki. > > > > If Dave provides a template, I should be able to write the RDF files for > > the hosts. > > Here is a specification for this: > > http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/host-info.lv2/host-info.html Notes on this discovered in the process of working on a documentation generator: Plugins describe their support for features, not really extensions. "Extension" is a bit of a meaningless term, the concrete things that can be "required" by a plugin are features. I'll probably need to modify this vocabulary to reflect this. The version stuff is also a bit under-specified, looking into that I see that basically everything using doap:revision (e.g. in lv2.ttl) is incorrect according to the doap vocabulary... -dr _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereThorsten Wilms <t_w_@...> writes:
> Hi! > > So here's a preliminary zynjacku.ttl attached. > > I would really like to see > http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/host-info#sinceVersion > used, but that would be left to Nedko in this case. Or a source/release > archaeologist. Though, there's a question: one ttl per host, or per host > version? I already have zynjacku.rdf that is an application/xml+rdf I dont want to maintain two versions of almost same metadata. rapper cannot convert properly between the two. I've been told that my firefox plugin for doap inspection is "a shitty tool". So I give up, I'm not going to participate in web 2.0 wars, sorry. Either lv2 host aggregator should support xml rdf, or turtle should become more used for doap. Until then, don't count on me. If someone decides to use the Thorsten`s zynjacku.tll (thanks for creating it!), there are some (and maybe more) problems with it: * it uses uri containing "ingen" for zynjacku * it does not use the right name for the project. It is "zynjacku", not "Zynjacku" * it does not describe the two hosts under same project, the synth host and the effect host (lv2rack). -- Nedko Arnaudov <GnuPG KeyID: DE1716B0> _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereOn Mon, 2009-11-09 at 23:46 +0200, Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
> Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...> writes: > > > Hi! > > > > So here's a preliminary zynjacku.ttl attached. > > > > I would really like to see > > http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/host-info#sinceVersion > > used, but that would be left to Nedko in this case. Or a source/release > > archaeologist. Though, there's a question: one ttl per host, or per host > > version? > > I already have zynjacku.rdf that is an application/xml+rdf > I dont want to maintain two versions of almost same metadata. > rapper cannot convert properly between the two. Of course it can. Why not? -dr _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereDavid Robillard <dave@...> writes:
> On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 23:46 +0200, Nedko Arnaudov wrote: >> Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...> writes: >> >> > Hi! >> > >> > So here's a preliminary zynjacku.ttl attached. >> > >> > I would really like to see >> > http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/host-info#sinceVersion >> > used, but that would be left to Nedko in this case. Or a source/release >> > archaeologist. Though, there's a question: one ttl per host, or per host >> > version? >> >> I already have zynjacku.rdf that is an application/xml+rdf >> I dont want to maintain two versions of almost same metadata. >> rapper cannot convert properly between the two. > > Of course it can. Why not? tools should be smarter. Still this does not solve the problem. -- Nedko Arnaudov <GnuPG KeyID: DE1716B0> _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereOn Tue, 2009-11-10 at 00:25 +0200, Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
> David Robillard <dave@...> writes: > > > On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 23:46 +0200, Nedko Arnaudov wrote: > >> Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...> writes: > >> > >> > Hi! > >> > > >> > So here's a preliminary zynjacku.ttl attached. > >> > > >> > I would really like to see > >> > http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/host-info#sinceVersion > >> > used, but that would be left to Nedko in this case. Or a source/release > >> > archaeologist. Though, there's a question: one ttl per host, or per host > >> > version? > >> > >> I already have zynjacku.rdf that is an application/xml+rdf > >> I dont want to maintain two versions of almost same metadata. > >> rapper cannot convert properly between the two. > > > > Of course it can. Why not? > > It changes the order ot triples. I agree that it should not matter and > tools should be smarter. Still this does not solve the problem. What tool actually cares about this? -dr _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereDavid Robillard <dave@...> writes:
> On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 00:25 +0200, Nedko Arnaudov wrote: >> David Robillard <dave@...> writes: >> >> > On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 23:46 +0200, Nedko Arnaudov wrote: >> >> Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...> writes: >> >> >> >> > Hi! >> >> > >> >> > So here's a preliminary zynjacku.ttl attached. >> >> > >> >> > I would really like to see >> >> > http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/host-info#sinceVersion >> >> > used, but that would be left to Nedko in this case. Or a source/release >> >> > archaeologist. Though, there's a question: one ttl per host, or per host >> >> > version? >> >> >> >> I already have zynjacku.rdf that is an application/xml+rdf >> >> I dont want to maintain two versions of almost same metadata. >> >> rapper cannot convert properly between the two. >> > >> > Of course it can. Why not? >> >> It changes the order ot triples. I agree that it should not matter and >> tools should be smarter. Still this does not solve the problem. > > What tool actually cares about this? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3886 It displays doap through http://sparql.captsolo.net/browser/browser.py Compare http://sparql.captsolo.net/browser/browser.py?url=http%3A//home.gna.org/zynjacku/zynjacku.rdf with http://sparql.captsolo.net/browser/browser.py?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnedko.arnaudov.name%2Fzynjacku.rdf The later one is generated from turtle. At first glance it looks that rapper sorts the entries. -- Nedko Arnaudov <GnuPG KeyID: DE1716B0> _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereOn Tue, 2009-11-10 at 00:32 +0200, Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
> David Robillard <dave@...> writes: > > > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 00:25 +0200, Nedko Arnaudov wrote: > >> David Robillard <dave@...> writes: > >> > >> > On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 23:46 +0200, Nedko Arnaudov wrote: > >> >> Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...> writes: > >> >> > >> >> > Hi! > >> >> > > >> >> > So here's a preliminary zynjacku.ttl attached. > >> >> > > >> >> > I would really like to see > >> >> > http://lv2plug.in/ns/dev/host-info#sinceVersion > >> >> > used, but that would be left to Nedko in this case. Or a source/release > >> >> > archaeologist. Though, there's a question: one ttl per host, or per host > >> >> > version? > >> >> > >> >> I already have zynjacku.rdf that is an application/xml+rdf > >> >> I dont want to maintain two versions of almost same metadata. > >> >> rapper cannot convert properly between the two. > >> > > >> > Of course it can. Why not? > >> > >> It changes the order ot triples. I agree that it should not matter and > >> tools should be smarter. Still this does not solve the problem. > > > > What tool actually cares about this? > > I use this plugin: > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3886 > > It displays doap through http://sparql.captsolo.net/browser/browser.py > > Compare http://sparql.captsolo.net/browser/browser.py?url=http%3A//home.gna.org/zynjacku/zynjacku.rdf > with http://sparql.captsolo.net/browser/browser.py?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnedko.arnaudov.name%2Fzynjacku.rdf > > The later one is generated from turtle. At first glance it looks that > rapper sorts the entries. Some random web tool having a crappy output layout format is hardly the fault of LV2, raptor, Turtle, or anything else but that tool, obviously. -dr _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereDavid Robillard <dave@...> writes:
> Some random web tool having a crappy output layout format is hardly the > fault of LV2, raptor, Turtle, or anything else but that tool, obviously. Yes, I got that the tool I use is crappy. How ignoring the problem solves it? I havent said that it is LV2 fault. I complained about evident turtle/xmlrdf schism. And I declared that I dont want to participate in web 2.0 wars. I have better things to do. -- Nedko Arnaudov <GnuPG KeyID: DE1716B0> _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereOn Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Nedko Arnaudov <nedko@...> wrote:
> Yes, I got that the tool I use is crappy. How ignoring the problem > solves it? I havent said that it is LV2 fault. I complained about > evident turtle/xmlrdf schism. And I declared that I dont want to > participate in web 2.0 wars. I have better things to do. Marvellous I'm going to write an adventure game called "Web 2.0 Wars: The Turtle Schism". Chris and no, I'm not. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereOn Tue, 2009-11-10 at 00:41 +0200, Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
> David Robillard <dave@...> writes: > > > Some random web tool having a crappy output layout format is hardly the > > fault of LV2, raptor, Turtle, or anything else but that tool, obviously. > > Yes, I got that the tool I use is crappy. How ignoring the problem > solves it? I havent said that it is LV2 fault. I complained about > evident turtle/xmlrdf schism. And I declared that I dont want to > participate in web 2.0 wars. I have better things to do. I don't know. Perhaps there is a better visualizer out there? If you are attached to this thing and consider it important (for some reason I really don't understand) then just maintain the document in a way that works well with it and automatically convert to turtle, instead of the other way around. As far as the 'schism' goes, turtle is a W3C 'team submission' now, on track to be a recommendation with a registered MIME type and all that. Support is pretty widespread, and increasing. It's not really a schism, absolutely everybody despises the mess that is rdf/xml ;) -dr _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: List of LV2 hosts, plugins and features, add yours hereDavid Robillard <dave@...> writes:
> On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 00:41 +0200, Nedko Arnaudov wrote: >> David Robillard <dave@...> writes: >> >> > Some random web tool having a crappy output layout format is hardly the >> > fault of LV2, raptor, Turtle, or anything else but that tool, obviously. >> >> Yes, I got that the tool I use is crappy. How ignoring the problem >> solves it? I havent said that it is LV2 fault. I complained about >> evident turtle/xmlrdf schism. And I declared that I dont want to >> participate in web 2.0 wars. I have better things to do. > > I don't know. Perhaps there is a better visualizer out there? If you > are attached to this thing and consider it important (for some reason I > really don't understand) then just maintain the document in a way that > works well with it and automatically convert to turtle, instead of the > other way around. > > As far as the 'schism' goes, turtle is a W3C 'team submission' now, on > track to be a recommendation with a registered MIME type and all that. > Support is pretty widespread, and increasing. It's not really a schism, > absolutely everybody despises the mess that is rdf/xml ;) with host applications. Is it appropriate? Here is the output of rapper, contains some strange stuff but the host-info seems to be fine. http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/zynjacku/website/zynjacku.ttl?rev=203 If this ttl is suitable for use in the extension matrix, I'll dig the changelog and describe extension support changes though releases. -- Nedko Arnaudov <GnuPG KeyID: DE1716B0> _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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