List of PostgreSQL Forks

[Josh Berkus]

All,

Time for me to update this for a presentation at West.  Does anyone know
of others than the list below?

OSS:

PostgresForest
PostGIS (not really a fork anymore)
SE-Postgres
Postgres-R
Mammoth (is this a fork anymore?)

Proprietary:

Miro'
Montage
Illustra
Informix
Netezza
Greenplum
Paraccel
Truviso
Vertica (client libs only, we think)
Yahoo DW
Aster Data
Fujitsu Supported Postgres
EDB Advanced Server

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[Devrim GÜNDÜZ]

On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 10:40 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> PostGIS (not really a fork anymore)

It is not a fork -- it is an addon.
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[Alvaro Herrera-7]

Josh Berkus wrote:

> Mammoth (is this a fork anymore?)

Yes, it's still a fork.

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[elein]

Informix 9 was not a fork but a re-write of OR features
added into the regular informix line.

On Sep 29, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:

> All,
>
> Time for me to update this for a presentation at West.  Does anyone  
> know
> of others than the list below?
>
> OSS:
>
> PostgresForest
> PostGIS (not really a fork anymore)
> SE-Postgres
> Postgres-R
> Mammoth (is this a fork anymore?)
>
> Proprietary:
>
> Miro'
> Montage
> Illustra
> Informix
> Netezza
> Greenplum
> Paraccel
> Truviso
> Vertica (client libs only, we think)
> Yahoo DW
> Aster Data
> Fujitsu Supported Postgres
> EDB Advanced Server
>
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[David Fetter]

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:40:38AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> All,
>
> Time for me to update this for a presentation at West.  Does anyone know
> of others than the list below?
> PostGIS (not really a fork anymore)

I don't think PostGIS was ever a fork.

> Proprietary:
>
> Miro'
> Montage
> Illustra
> Informix
> Netezza
> Greenplum
> Paraccel
> Truviso
> Vertica (client libs only, we think)
> Yahoo DW
> Aster Data
> Fujitsu Supported Postgres
> EDB Advanced Server

Everest used components from PostgreSQL.

Cheers,
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[Devrim GÜNDÜZ]

On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 11:30 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> Since the addon changes the license, I think it's technically a fork.

Which license? Both parts are BSD licensed.

> However, my point is more that PostGIS *used* to be a fork, even
> though it's merged now.

Well, I have been in PostGIS project for about 5-6 years, and I don't
recall that it was a fork even then -- but I may be wrong.
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[Devrim GÜNDÜZ]

On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 13:58 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > Which license? Both parts are BSD licensed.
>
> Huh?  PostGIS has always been GPL.  Otherwise we'd be distributing it
> with the core code.

Right, sorry.
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[Tatsuo Ishii-3]

> All,
>
> Time for me to update this for a presentation at West.  Does anyone know
> of others than the list below?
>
> OSS:
>
> PostgresForest

This is a middle ware, very much like pgpool-II or Slony-I, no?

If you list PostgresForest in this category, you might want to list
pgpool-II, Slony-I and PGCluster as well. I think PGCluster uses
modified PostgreSQL backend, but non of rest uses modified PostgreSQL
backend.

> PostGIS (not really a fork anymore)
> SE-Postgres
> Postgres-R
> Mammoth (is this a fork anymore?)
>
> Proprietary:
>
> Miro'
> Montage
> Illustra
> Informix
> Netezza
> Greenplum
> Paraccel
> Truviso
> Vertica (client libs only, we think)
> Yahoo DW
> Aster Data
> Fujitsu Supported Postgres
> EDB Advanced Server

PowerGres
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[Tatsuo Ishii-4]

> All,
>
> Time for me to update this for a presentation at West.  Does anyone know
> of others than the list below?
>
> OSS:
>
> PostgresForest

This is a middle ware, very much like pgpool-II or Slony-I, no?

If you list PostgresForest in this category, you might want to list
pgpool-II, Slony-I and PGCluster as well. I think PGCluster uses
modified PostgreSQL backend, but non of rest uses modified PostgreSQL
backend.

> PostGIS (not really a fork anymore)
> SE-Postgres
> Postgres-R
> Mammoth (is this a fork anymore?)
>
> Proprietary:
>
> Miro'
> Montage
> Illustra
> Informix
> Netezza
> Greenplum
> Paraccel
> Truviso
> Vertica (client libs only, we think)
> Yahoo DW
> Aster Data
> Fujitsu Supported Postgres
> EDB Advanced Server

PowerGres
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[Satoshi Nagayasu]

PostgresForest is a fork of the JDBC driver, not from the backend code.

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> All,
>
> Time for me to update this for a presentation at West.  Does anyone know
> of others than the list below?
>
> OSS:
>
> PostgresForest

This is a middle ware, very much like pgpool-II or Slony-I, no?

If you list PostgresForest in this category, you might want to list
pgpool-II, Slony-I and PGCluster as well. I think PGCluster uses
modified PostgreSQL backend, but non of rest uses modified PostgreSQL
backend.

> PostGIS (not really a fork anymore)
> SE-Postgres
> Postgres-R
> Mammoth (is this a fork anymore?)
>
> Proprietary:
>
> Miro'
> Montage
> Illustra
> Informix
> Netezza
> Greenplum
> Paraccel
> Truviso
> Vertica (client libs only, we think)
> Yahoo DW
> Aster Data
> Fujitsu Supported Postgres
> EDB Advanced Server

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[Paragon Corporation-2]

Guys,

Your idea of calling PostGIS a sort of fork seems a little odd.  Isn't' that
like calling any GPL software you use within your database a fork. PostGIS
doesn't even do anything by itself.

On a side note --  I would like to say there are other reasons PostGIS is
not included in the PostgreSQL core besides the GPL license. We had
discussed this a while back and even if we were to go BSD, we would not want
to be included in the core because it would tie our release cycle too
closely to the PostgreSQL release cycle and our PostGIS versions to a
PostgreSQL specific version.  As a community we like our freedom of
releasing when we feel it is necessary to do so without having to worry so
much about what the PostgreSQL side of the fence is doing.  This may change
as we mature, but that's the way it stands.

Paul, Mark and Kevin can correct me if I am wrong in my statements.

Thanks,
Regina

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On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 13:58 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > Which license? Both parts are BSD licensed.
>
> Huh?  PostGIS has always been GPL.  Otherwise we'd be distributing it
> with the core code.

Right, sorry.
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[Paul Ramsey-5]

Yes, strange definition. PostGIS is an add-on to PostgreSQL that uses
the extensions points PostgreSQL defines. It's not a modified copy of
PostgreSQL (a fork) and never was, it's always been built as an add-
on, using the ./contrib tree as a model.

On Sep 29, 5:39 pm, l...@... ("Paragon Corporation") wrote:

> Guys,
>
> Your idea of calling PostGIS a sort of fork seems a little odd.  Isn't' that
> like calling any GPL software you use within your database a fork. PostGIS
> doesn't even do anything by itself.
>
> On a side note --  I would like to say there are other reasons PostGIS is
> not included in thePostgreSQLcore besides the GPL license. We had
> discussed this a while back and even if we were to go BSD, we would not want
> to be included in the core because it would tie our release cycle too
> closely to thePostgreSQLrelease cycle and our PostGIS versions to aPostgreSQLspecific version.  As a community we like our freedom of
> releasing when we feel it is necessary to do so without having to worry so
> much about what thePostgreSQLside of the fence is doing.  This may change
> as we mature, but that's the way it stands.
>
> Paul, Mark and Kevin can correct me if I am wrong in my statements.
>
> Thanks,
> Regina
>
>
>
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> On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 13:58 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > > Which license? Both parts are BSD licensed.
>
> > Huh?  PostGIS has always been GPL.  Otherwise we'd be distributing it
> > with the core code.
>
> Right, sorry.
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[Joshua D. Drake]

On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 20:39 -0400, Paragon Corporation wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Your idea of calling PostGIS a sort of fork seems a little odd.  Isn't' that
> like calling any GPL software you use within your database a fork. PostGIS
> doesn't even do anything by itself.

PostGIS is not a fork. Not sure where that idea comes from.

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[Magnus Hagander-2]

2009/9/30 Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@...>:

>> All,
>>
>> Time for me to update this for a presentation at West.  Does anyone know
>> of others than the list below?
>>
>> OSS:
>>
>> PostgresForest
>
> This is a middle ware, very much like pgpool-II or Slony-I, no?
>
> If you list PostgresForest in this category, you might want to list
> pgpool-II, Slony-I and PGCluster as well. I think PGCluster uses
> modified PostgreSQL backend, but non of rest uses modified PostgreSQL
> backend.

PGCluster is definitely a fork.


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[Ron Mayer]

Josh Berkus wrote:
> All,
>
> Time for me to update this for a presentation at West.  Does anyone know
> of others than the list below?
>
> OSS:

HadoopDB ? - http://db.cs.yale.edu/hadoopdb/hadoopdb.html

> PostgresForest
> PostGIS (not really a fork anymore)
> SE-Postgres
> Postgres-R
> Mammoth (is this a fork anymore?)
>
> Proprietary:
>
> Miro'
> Montage
> Illustra
> Informix
> Netezza
> Greenplum
> Paraccel
> Truviso
> Vertica (client libs only, we think)
> Yahoo DW
> Aster Data
> Fujitsu Supported Postgres
> EDB Advanced Server
>

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[Peter Eisentraut-2]

On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 04:05 -0700, Ron Mayer wrote:
> Josh Berkus wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > Time for me to update this for a presentation at West.  Does anyone know
> > of others than the list below?
> >
> > OSS:
>
> HadoopDB ? - http://db.cs.yale.edu/hadoopdb/hadoopdb.html

HadoopDB just like Aster's product isn't actually a fork but a piece of
software running on top of one or more unmodified PostgreSQL instances.
It's basically a very, very, very smart pgpool.



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[Tatsuo Ishii-3]

> 2009/9/30 Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@...>:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> Time for me to update this for a presentation at West.  Does anyone know
> >> of others than the list below?
> >>
> >> OSS:
> >>
> >> PostgresForest
> >
> > This is a middle ware, very much like pgpool-II or Slony-I, no?
> >
> > If you list PostgresForest in this category, you might want to list
> > pgpool-II, Slony-I and PGCluster as well. I think PGCluster uses
> > modified PostgreSQL backend, but non of rest uses modified PostgreSQL
> > backend.
>
> PGCluster is definitely a fork.

That's what I was saying, I think. More precisely,

PGCluster = modified(forked)PostgreSQL + modified pgpool
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[Tatsuo Ishii-4]

> 2009/9/30 Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@...>:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> Time for me to update this for a presentation at West.  Does anyone know
> >> of others than the list below?
> >>
> >> OSS:
> >>
> >> PostgresForest
> >
> > This is a middle ware, very much like pgpool-II or Slony-I, no?
> >
> > If you list PostgresForest in this category, you might want to list
> > pgpool-II, Slony-I and PGCluster as well. I think PGCluster uses
> > modified PostgreSQL backend, but non of rest uses modified PostgreSQL
> > backend.
>
> PGCluster is definitely a fork.

That's what I was saying, I think. More precisely,

PGCluster = modified(forked)PostgreSQL + modified pgpool
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[Joshua D. Drake]

On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 14:21 +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 04:05 -0700, Ron Mayer wrote:
> > Josh Berkus wrote:
> > > All,
> > >
> > > Time for me to update this for a presentation at West.  Does anyone know
> > > of others than the list below?
> > >
> > > OSS:
> >
> > HadoopDB ? - http://db.cs.yale.edu/hadoopdb/hadoopdb.html
>
> HadoopDB just like Aster's product isn't actually a fork but a piece of
> software running on top of one or more unmodified PostgreSQL instances.
> It's basically a very, very, very smart pgpool.

That's an understatement from what I can tell :)

>
>
>
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[Markus Wanner-2]

Hi,

Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> PostGIS is not a fork. Not sure where that idea comes from.

Neither do I personally consider Postgres-R a fork. I still think of it
as a (rather huge) patch, a bit like SE-PostgreSQL. However, it clearly
depends on your definition of what a "fork" is.

Maybe "based on Postgres" or similar would better describe the list (and
allow even more projects to be named)?

Regards

Markus Wanner

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