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by José Sousa :: Rate this Message:

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Hi everybody! 

I´m Jose Sousa, from Brazil, and discovered Lmms a few days, when I was finding a software to produce my music. I liked it too much. I work at the audio production area (Jingles, radio spots, etc), and at work I use Pro Tools, Cubase and Sony Vegas, that as very cool, but for my music I´d like a open/free tool. At work I´m only audio technician.

I´m 25 years old, living in Porto Alegre, state of Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil. I play drums and keyboards since 1996. The music that I like it´s a kind of Eletro rock, with a little of trance. And I have a wish to do something good for the people with my music. Just it, no commercial intends.

The thing that I was thinking about this morning is the Live tool. I think that is very important because a lot of people play their music for live, and like me, play the whole sequence in a linear way isn´t very intuitive when you are in a live situation. 

So I´m writing to suggest the way the live mode could work. 

I think it can be simple but very useful. 

At the playlist, in live mode, Lmms could allow a certain number of regions that work like patterns. Simple regions, divided by markers. With this concept you preserve your song like it was made, but play loops of regions of the song. So when in live mode, the software play the region in loops and all you have to to do it´s select in realtime what region Lmms must play! What do you think? 

When a region is selected (by a previously assigned key or midi CC) the software play that in loop, when another is selected the software waits for the current region that's playing to start the another. 
So the tracks can be muted or "soloed" by another assignable keys. I think that is a simple but intuitive way to play live. 

I don´t know any development language, but I can help drawing layouts. 

I sorry for my bad English! There´s  a long time I don´t communicate with this language. So, if something that I wrote was misunderstood, please, ask me. 

Att
José Sousa
Porto Alegre/RS
Brazil





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Parent Message unknown Re: Live mode

by William Lahti :: Rate this Message:

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(resent to list as mobile gmail didn't want to CC to the list
automatically... :-( )

On Tuesday, October 27, 2009, José Sousa wrote:
> Hi everybody!
Hello  José!

> I think it can be simple but very useful.
> At the playlist, in live mode, Lmms could
> allow a certain number of regions that work like patterns. Simple regions, divided by markers. With this concept you preserve your song like it was made, but play loops of regions of the song. So when in live mode, the software play the region in loops and all you have to to do it´s select in realtime what region Lmms must play! What do you think?

Sounds like a good start for live lmms features. Basic support for
this could be pretty easy to implement, but more advanced stuff (like
being able to have tracks distinct from the region) would require some
new constructs in the codebase. However the usefulness of having such
flexibility is questionable. I think this is well into Song Editor
territory, which Paul is currently rewriting, so... good timing?

> So the tracks can be muted or "soloed" by another assignable keys. I think that is a simple but intuitive way to play live.

Ooh, nice idea. I would venture a guess that something close to that
can already be done (do we have arbitrary CC->automatable knobs?)

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long name: William Lahti
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blog :: http://xfurious.blogspot.com/
site :: http://komodocorp.com/~wilahti



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Re: Live mode

by Andy Kelley :: Rate this Message:

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I think it's a reasonable request. I'll take a look at it when Paul is done with the new song editor.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:33 AM, William Lahti <xfurious@...> wrote:
(resent to list as mobile gmail didn't want to CC to the list
automatically... :-( )

On Tuesday, October 27, 2009, José Sousa wrote:
> Hi everybody!
Hello  José!

> I think it can be simple but very useful.
> At the playlist, in live mode, Lmms could
> allow a certain number of regions that work like patterns. Simple regions, divided by markers. With this concept you preserve your song like it was made, but play loops of regions of the song. So when in live mode, the software play the region in loops and all you have to to do it´s select in realtime what region Lmms must play! What do you think?

Sounds like a good start for live lmms features. Basic support for
this could be pretty easy to implement, but more advanced stuff (like
being able to have tracks distinct from the region) would require some
new constructs in the codebase. However the usefulness of having such
flexibility is questionable. I think this is well into Song Editor
territory, which Paul is currently rewriting, so... good timing?

> So the tracks can be muted or "soloed" by another assignable keys. I think that is a simple but intuitive way to play live.

Ooh, nice idea. I would venture a guess that something close to that
can already be done (do we have arbitrary CC->automatable knobs?)

--
rezonant

long name: William Lahti
handle :: rezonant
freenode :: xfury
blog :: http://xfurious.blogspot.com/
site :: http://komodocorp.com/~wilahti



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long name: William Lahti
handle :: rezonant
freenode :: xfury
blog :: http://xfurious.blogspot.com/
site :: http://komodocorp.com/~wilahti

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Re: Live mode

by Paul Giblock-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Sorry for the delayed response.

I agree, this is a cool idea.  The new song-editor and beatmapping
have an advanced timeline already that will
allow you to place markers for tempo-change and time-signature-change.

Along the same lines, I could imagine letting the user mark of
loop-regions. this (the GUI) wouldn't be hard to
implement.  And it seems technically possible since the feature will
essentially just dynamically move around the
time-line's loop points :)

As a side note, I thought of one more row for the song-editors
timeline: Key/Chord.  This way, we can do cool
stuff like highlight rows that are "on key" within the piano-roll.
etc.. Also, that would be nice if we ever classical
notation.

Paul

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Andy Kelley <superjoe30@...> wrote:

> I think it's a reasonable request. I'll take a look at it when Paul is done
> with the new song editor.
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:33 AM, William Lahti <xfurious@...> wrote:
>>
>> (resent to list as mobile gmail didn't want to CC to the list
>> automatically... :-( )
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2009, José Sousa wrote:
>> > Hi everybody!
>> Hello  José!
>>
>> > I think it can be simple but very useful.
>> > At the playlist, in live mode, Lmms could
>> > allow a certain number of regions that work like patterns. Simple
>> > regions, divided by markers. With this concept you preserve your song like
>> > it was made, but play loops of regions of the song. So when in live mode,
>> > the software play the region in loops and all you have to to do it´s select
>> > in realtime what region Lmms must play! What do you think?
>>
>> Sounds like a good start for live lmms features. Basic support for
>> this could be pretty easy to implement, but more advanced stuff (like
>> being able to have tracks distinct from the region) would require some
>> new constructs in the codebase. However the usefulness of having such
>> flexibility is questionable. I think this is well into Song Editor
>> territory, which Paul is currently rewriting, so... good timing?
>>
>> > So the tracks can be muted or "soloed" by another assignable keys. I
>> > think that is a simple but intuitive way to play live.
>>
>> Ooh, nice idea. I would venture a guess that something close to that
>> can already be done (do we have arbitrary CC->automatable knobs?)
>>
>> --
>> rezonant
>>
>> long name: William Lahti
>> handle :: rezonant
>> freenode :: xfury
>> blog :: http://xfurious.blogspot.com/
>> site :: http://komodocorp.com/~wilahti
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> rezonant
>>
>> long name: William Lahti
>> handle :: rezonant
>> freenode :: xfury
>> blog :: http://xfurious.blogspot.com/
>> site :: http://komodocorp.com/~wilahti
>>
>>
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