Log in it's own scrollable section

[K Post]

The log file being in it's down scrollable section is a fantastic
idea.  A couple of things:

1) When I load the maillog page, the top of the screen is the search
box.  I'd need to scroll up to see the ASSP logo and
white/red/tupliets, analyzer, etc lines.  I don't know if this is
intentional or not.  I don't know that I really care that it does this
either...

2) Having the log in the scroll, got me thinking.  Could we do this on
the main admin page?  Have the configuration settings be in their own
box?  That would always have the ASSP header and menu visibile.  We
could then get rid of the float javascript, which doesn't work great
IMHO.  That would also let us quickly click the apply button or access
any main top link without scrolling.

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[Thomas Eckardt/eck]

>I'd need to scroll up to see the ASSP logo

What do you want to see - the log or the logo?

>which doesn't work great IMHO.

What's wrong with the menu?

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The log file being in it's down scrollable section is a fantastic
idea.  A couple of things:

1) When I load the maillog page, the top of the screen is the search
box.  I'd need to scroll up to see the ASSP logo and
white/red/tupliets, analyzer, etc lines.  I don't know if this is
intentional or not.  I don't know that I really care that it does this
either...

2) Having the log in the scroll, got me thinking.  Could we do this on
the main admin page?  Have the configuration settings be in their own
box?  That would always have the ASSP header and menu visibile.  We
could then get rid of the float javascript, which doesn't work great
IMHO.  That would also let us quickly click the apply button or access
any main top link without scrolling.

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[K Post]

>>I'd need to scroll up to see the ASSP logo
>
> What do you want to see - the log or the logo?
Though the logo is stunning, that's not really what i was talking
about, it was that the other stuff, like the options to the right of
the logo for whitelist, etc.  It's probably better exactly how you
have it, I just wanted to point it in case it wasn't intentional.

>>which doesn't work great IMHO.
>
> What's wrong with the menu?

With  EnableFloatingMenu checked, on a 1280x800 laptop screen, if I do
expand all, I can't seem to get to the bottom of the left menu.  As i
scroll down, the javascript keeps the top of that left menu visible,
never showing the end.

Obviously, I could just collapse sections until I can see what I want,
but putting the content on the right in its own scrollable section,
would eliminate the need for the float.  The menu would just always be
at the top, but would be fully accessible when using a less-than-big
browser window.

Another peeve about the left floating menu, is the animation of it
hurrying up to the top when you're at the bottom of the options and
then scroll to the top.  it takes a couple sections for javascript to
move the div all the way to the top.  There would be no moving if we
separated the content from the menu.

Also, to save a little more screen real estate, we could ditch the
double bordered box around the top menu (logo and menu options).
Currently, there's gray, then white, then the box.  While I admit this
looks good, it's just extra space.  If we just had the gray box, that
would give back a couple lines of text to the height of the page.

Thanks

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[shdjsahwkjq ehwq kehwkq h]

I just turn off that float JS, I am not sure if anyone has ever used  
it in Safari, but it is simply not usable at all.  it is so hard to  
manage, I have to use a shell to edit the config file by and just to  
get it off.
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On Nov 8, 2009, at 7:23 AM, K Post wrote:

> 2) Having the log in the scroll, got me thinking.  Could we do this on
> the main admin page?  Have the configuration settings be in their own
> box?  That would always have the ASSP header and menu visibile.  We
> could then get rid of the float javascript, which doesn't work great
> IMHO.  That would also let us quickly click the apply button or access
> any main top link without scrolling.


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[shdjsahwkjq ehwq kehwkq h]

On Nov 8, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Thomas Eckardt/eck wrote:

>> I'd need to scroll up to see the ASSP logo
>
> What do you want to see - the log or the logo?


I think he wants to see the other ancillary tools that are at the top,  
that just happen to also be near the log as well.
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[shdjsahwkjq ehwq kehwkq h]

>> What's wrong with the menu?
>
> With  EnableFloatingMenu checked, on a 1280x800 laptop screen, if I do
> expand all, I can't seem to get to the bottom of the left menu.  As i
> scroll down, the javascript keeps the top of that left menu visible,
> never showing the end.

Confirmed, Mac OS X Macbook, 1280x800

> Obviously, I could just collapse sections until I can see what I want,
> but putting the content on the right in its own scrollable section,
> would eliminate the need for the float.  The menu would just always be
> at the top, but would be fully accessible when using a less-than-big
> browser window.t

Not a fan of moving the left bar to the right, navs go on the let, but  
I support the rest of what you are saying.

> Another peeve about the left floating menu, is the animation of it
> hurrying up to the top when you're at the bottom of the options and
> then scroll to the top.  it takes a couple sections for javascript to
> move the div all the way to the top.  There would be no moving if we
> separated the content from the menu.

Turn that off as well, you may have just never seen the options, since  
you have been fighting a menu that does not want to let you see the  
options.

> Also, to save a little more screen real estate, we could ditch the
> double bordered box around the top menu (logo and menu options).
> Currently, there's gray, then white, then the box.  While I admit this
> looks good, it's just extra space.  If we just had the gray box, that
> would give back a couple lines of text to the height of the page.

The entire web admin needs to be abstracted.  I want to work on this,  
and was going to ask how to best implement it.  There is raw css and  
JS in the .pl file.   This has to be loaded and parsed on every page  
load, and ever page save.  These need to be external resources.  Pull  
the JS and CSS out, and also pull all the display poerions out,  
into .tpl (template) files.  Give a base UL/LI/Div based framework,  
and let me have at the css and JS.  Include the jqeury library from  
the google CDN, and that gives me all the power I need to make a solid  
web admin with no download overhead, since it is cached for anyone who  
has loaded google before.

I also wonder about and option to bundle in HTTP-Server-Simple from  
perl, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_lightweight_web_servers 
  any lightweight webserver, could remove a huge chunk of code from  
assp.pl.

Once you get all the display data into theme/english.tpl/file.tpl you  
go from around one call in perl to the many there are now to read and  
parse all the files.  All I need is a way to http(s) post a list of  
args to assp.pl that will update the confi file, which with a little  
poking, since it already is in there, I am pretty sure it would not be  
a tough change.

It is on my list to look into for sure.

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[Hill, Brett]

K Post wrote:
> > What's wrong with the menu?
>
> With  EnableFloatingMenu checked, on a 1280x800 laptop
> screen, if I do expand all, I can't seem to get to the bottom
> of the left menu.  As i scroll down, the javascript keeps the
> top of that left menu visible, never showing the end.

A perfect example is the Penalty Box sub-menu.  It does do that, but if
you scroll the log all the way to the bottom of the page and "then"
scroll up and down, you should be able to view the rest of the sub-menu
options on the left (at least in Firefox it works like that).

Kind Regards,
Brett


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