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MIDI overload?
by Timothy Sutton
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Hi list,
Has anyone experienced strange behaviour of the G2 resetting program chances in conjunction with a high volume of MIDI messages, with the editor open, or even with it closed? I'm trying to play a sequence through Logic, and it repeatedly resets to Patch 1 on Bank 1 whenever it seems to receive clusters of MIDI messages. The volume settings also seem to jump to a couple different values. I'm sending it CC messages (five different ones) out of Logic's GM output modules. I moved from the Hyper Editor to straight automation data because it seems to remove redundant messages much better, though it's a bitch to edit. I've hooked up a monitor to the output for diagnostics, and it doesn't look like I'm sending any accidental Program Change or Volume messages, and I've checked my tracks over many times to make sure they're not sending any extraneous data (just CC). The fact that it never occurs at exactly the same place (although some places more commonly than others, where there is more simulatanous CC messages) suggests to me that it is some fallback in the hardware from receiving an overload of MIDI messages. Maybe Logic is doing something behind my back — that seems to be its specialty. I'm on Leopard and a MacIntel. ___________________________________________________________ Nord-modular mailing list Nord-modular@... http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular Members: use http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/options/nord-modular to change subscription status, digest options, password, topics, etc. Patches sent to the Nord-Modular mailing list may not be redistributed without the express consent of the author/creator. ___________________________________________________________ |
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Re: MIDI overload?
by Wout Blommers
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From: "Timothy Sutton" <timsutton@...>
> Maybe Logic is doing something behind my back — that seems to be its specialty. Two things are known: That sneaky Logic behavior and the sensibility of Nords to a Midi overload, although they mostly crash instead of resetting to Bank 1.1... Wout ___________________________________________________________ Nord-modular mailing list Nord-modular@... http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular Members: use http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/options/nord-modular to change subscription status, digest options, password, topics, etc. Patches sent to the Nord-Modular mailing list may not be redistributed without the express consent of the author/creator. ___________________________________________________________ |
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Re: MIDI overload?
by Werner Schönenberger
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Hi Timothy,
I fear that the G2 has some issues related to MIDI. I had the effect that sending a lot of CC data as well as a Program Change (which does my Cubase) even leads to a freeze of the G2x (in my case). At the end, people at Clavia could reproduce this fault but they told me that it will not be really expected to be solved since the activities at the G2 were closed. This was about one year ago. So I think you have use a MIDI filter (maybe in combinateion with a delay) to reduce the unnecessary CC data to solve the issue. In my case I used a Yamaha MEP-4 MIDI processor that helped me. Good luck, Werner Am 06.01.2009 um 22:36 schrieb Timothy Sutton: > Hi list, > > Has anyone experienced strange behaviour of the G2 resetting program > chances in conjunction with a high volume of MIDI messages, with the > editor open, or even with it closed? I'm trying to play a sequence > through Logic, and it repeatedly resets to Patch 1 on Bank 1 > whenever it > seems to receive clusters of MIDI messages. The volume settings also > seem to jump to a couple different values. > > I'm sending it CC messages (five different ones) out of Logic's GM > output modules. I moved from the Hyper Editor to straight automation > data because it seems to remove redundant messages much better, though > it's a bitch to edit. I've hooked up a monitor to the output for > diagnostics, and it doesn't look like I'm sending any accidental > Program > Change or Volume messages, and I've checked my tracks over many > times to > make sure they're not sending any extraneous data (just CC). > > The fact that it never occurs at exactly the same place (although some > places more commonly than others, where there is more simulatanous CC > messages) suggests to me that it is some fallback in the hardware from > receiving an overload of MIDI messages. Maybe Logic is doing something > behind my back — that seems to be its specialty. > > > I'm on Leopard and a MacIntel. > > ___________________________________________________________ > Nord-modular mailing list > Nord-modular@... > http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular > > Members: use http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/options/nord- > modular > to change subscription status, digest options, password, topics, etc. > > Patches sent to the Nord-Modular mailing list may not be redistributed > without the express consent of the author/creator. > ___________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________ Nord-modular mailing list Nord-modular@... http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular Members: use http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/options/nord-modular to change subscription status, digest options, password, topics, etc. Patches sent to the Nord-Modular mailing list may not be redistributed without the express consent of the author/creator. ___________________________________________________________ |
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Re: MIDI overload?
by Timothy Sutton
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thanks you guys. Despite it being pretty clear what part of the system
was to blame here, I had more expected it to be one of those problems that only happens to me. When my roommate first got his G2 keyboard in 2004, I crashed it from the keyboard control panel within about a half hour :) Tim On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Werner Schönenberger <werner.schoenenberger@...> wrote: > Hi Timothy, > > I fear that the G2 has some issues related to MIDI. I had the effect > that sending a lot of CC data as well as a Program Change (which does > my Cubase) even leads to a freeze of the G2x (in my case). At the end, > people at Clavia could reproduce this fault but they told me that it > will not be really expected to be solved since the activities at the > G2 were closed. This was about one year ago. So I think you have use a > MIDI filter (maybe in combinateion with a delay) to reduce the > unnecessary CC data to solve the issue. In my case I used a Yamaha > MEP-4 MIDI processor that helped me. > > Good luck, > Werner > > Am 06.01.2009 um 22:36 schrieb Timothy Sutton: > >> Hi list, >> >> Has anyone experienced strange behaviour of the G2 resetting program >> chances in conjunction with a high volume of MIDI messages, with the >> editor open, or even with it closed? I'm trying to play a sequence >> through Logic, and it repeatedly resets to Patch 1 on Bank 1 >> whenever it >> seems to receive clusters of MIDI messages. The volume settings also >> seem to jump to a couple different values. >> >> I'm sending it CC messages (five different ones) out of Logic's GM >> output modules. I moved from the Hyper Editor to straight automation >> data because it seems to remove redundant messages much better, though >> it's a bitch to edit. I've hooked up a monitor to the output for >> diagnostics, and it doesn't look like I'm sending any accidental >> Program >> Change or Volume messages, and I've checked my tracks over many >> times to >> make sure they're not sending any extraneous data (just CC). >> >> The fact that it never occurs at exactly the same place (although some >> places more commonly than others, where there is more simulatanous CC >> messages) suggests to me that it is some fallback in the hardware from >> receiving an overload of MIDI messages. Maybe Logic is doing something >> behind my back — that seems to be its specialty. >> >> >> I'm on Leopard and a MacIntel. >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Nord-modular mailing list >> Nord-modular@... >> http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular >> >> Members: use http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/options/nord- >> modular >> to change subscription status, digest options, password, topics, etc. >> >> Patches sent to the Nord-Modular mailing list may not be redistributed >> without the express consent of the author/creator. >> ___________________________________________________________ > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Nord-modular mailing list > Nord-modular@... > http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular > > Members: use http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/options/nord-modular > to change subscription status, digest options, password, topics, etc. > > Patches sent to the Nord-Modular mailing list may not be redistributed > without the express consent of the author/creator. > ___________________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________ Nord-modular mailing list Nord-modular@... http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular Members: use http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/options/nord-modular to change subscription status, digest options, password, topics, etc. Patches sent to the Nord-Modular mailing list may not be redistributed without the express consent of the author/creator. ___________________________________________________________ |
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Re: MIDI overload?
by Wout Blommers
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> When my roommate first got his G2 keyboard in 2004, I crashed it from
> the keyboard control panel within about a half hour :) Which probably tells more about you then the synth... ;-) Wout ___________________________________________________________ Nord-modular mailing list Nord-modular@... http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular Members: use http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/options/nord-modular to change subscription status, digest options, password, topics, etc. Patches sent to the Nord-Modular mailing list may not be redistributed without the express consent of the author/creator. ___________________________________________________________ |
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Re: MIDI overload?
by John Alex Hvidlykke
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The magic touch ;-)
John > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: nord-modular-bounces@... > [mailto:nord-modular-bounces@...]Pa vegne af Wout Blommers > Sendt: 8. januar 2009 07:05 > Til: Nord Modular mailing list > Emne: Re: [NM] MIDI overload? > > > > When my roommate first got his G2 keyboard in 2004, I crashed it from > > the keyboard control panel within about a half hour :) > > Which probably tells more about you then the synth... ;-) > > Wout > ___________________________________________________________ > Nord-modular mailing list > Nord-modular@... > http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular > > Members: use http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/options/nord-modular > to change subscription status, digest options, password, topics, etc. > > Patches sent to the Nord-Modular mailing list may not be redistributed > without the express consent of the author/creator. > ___________________________________________________________ Nord-modular mailing list Nord-modular@... http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular Members: use http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/options/nord-modular to change subscription status, digest options, password, topics, etc. Patches sent to the Nord-Modular mailing list may not be redistributed without the express consent of the author/creator. ___________________________________________________________ |
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Re: MIDI overload?
by Sebastian Berweck
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_of_God_goal
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nord-modular-bounces@... [mailto:nord-modular-bounces@...] Im Auftrag von John Alex Hvidlykke Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 11:54 An: Nord Modular mailing list Betreff: Re: [NM] MIDI overload? The magic touch ;-) John > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: nord-modular-bounces@... > [mailto:nord-modular-bounces@...]Pa vegne af Wout > Blommers > Sendt: 8. januar 2009 07:05 > Til: Nord Modular mailing list > Emne: Re: [NM] MIDI overload? > > > > When my roommate first got his G2 keyboard in 2004, I crashed it > > from the keyboard control panel within about a half hour :) > > Which probably tells more about you then the synth... ;-) > > Wout > ___________________________________________________________ > Nord-modular mailing list > Nord-modular@... > http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular > > Members: use > http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/options/nord-modular > to change subscription status, digest options, password, topics, etc. > > Patches sent to the Nord-Modular mailing list may not be redistributed > without the express consent of the author/creator. > ___________________________________________________________ Nord-modular mailing list Nord-modular@... http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular Members: use http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/options/nord-modular to change subscription status, digest options, password, topics, etc. Patches sent to the Nord-Modular mailing list may not be redistributed without the express consent of the author/creator. ___________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________ Nord-modular mailing list Nord-modular@... http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular Members: use http://mail.electro-music.com/mailman/options/nord-modular to change subscription status, digest options, password, topics, etc. Patches sent to the Nord-Modular mailing list may not be redistributed without the express consent of the author/creator. ___________________________________________________________ |
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