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by Claude Philipona :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

The MapFish BoF took place yesterday at the FOSS4G conference, with
about 11 participants from different organizations and with different
backgrounds. All are sharing a great interest in MapFish and are
interested in its future development.

The goal of the BoF was to pursue the discussions already started on
the list and on IRC.

Just to settle the global context, Claude quickly recalled the MapFish history:
- MapFish was initiated by Camptocamp to ease the development of
complex Web2.0 type webmapping application
- MapFish was made as a development framework to help the developer
address the project requirements without starting from scratch each
time.
- A growing interest from users, integrators, organizations outside
Camptocamp showed that MapFish meets some needs for implementing
webmapping application
- MapFish is now at a crossing point. It has been built iteratively
from the needs and requirements of different projects. It is now time
to decide for the future of MapFish community: what MapFish framework
should offer?, what should not be in MapFish? Briefly said, it is
time, based on the existing experiences, to set the future targets for
MapFish and to choose the best ways to do it.
- It is now time to organize the global community in a broader way, to
organize the project governance.
- Considering the wide range of interest and the need of such type of
solution, it is also time to apply for OSGeo incubation.

Then, a discussion took place about the PSC creation (Project Steering
Committee): what would be the goal of the PSC?, the decision made by
the PSC?, how many members?, and from which backgrounds?. 7
participants showed their interest to be part of the PSC and 2 persons
not present at FOSS4G have already reported their interest. During the
discussion, it turned out that the exact fixed number and the
background was not the biggest issue at the moment (except that a huge
number is probably not efficient). Meritocracy has to play a role in
regard to PSC. Additionally,it would be good that a majority of PSC
members are not also part of Camptocamp. The important issue was to
settle, at the moment, the global MapFish project's governance in an
open way. Instead of directly creating a formal fixed PSC, it was
agreed to create a constituent assembly, formed by any person willing
to put energy in the MapFish future. The goals of this assembly are:
- Set the rule for the PSC and lead to the official PSC start
- Organize the discussion about the MapFish future (general roadmap)

Anyone interested to actively participate to this assembly is welcome
to notify his interest on the dev mailing list.

After presenting each others, telling a little about their backgrounds
and explaining the reasons that make them have interest in MapFish,
each participant presented their global expectations related to
MapFish, which can be summarized with the following non-exhaustive
statements:
- MapFish needs to help the developer create webmapping application
without reinventing the wheel.
- MapFish is a development framework.
- MapFish has to be a complete web mapping solution that can simplify
the creation of web mapping infrastructure.
- The architecture of MapFish has to be clearly stated (typically the
position of GeoExt and MapFish client).
- MapFish has to be a framework providing easy way to implement high
level end user functionalities, both on client and server side.
- The importance of usability, look&feel, "sexiness" of capabilities
of MapFish framework were reported by several participants
- MapFish should use other powerful OSGEO technologies, collaborate
with the others projects and don't need to reinvent the wheel.
- A simple deployment procedure has to proposed to start with MapFish.
- The position of Studio and Print have to be clarified.
- The following needs were identified: Oracle, security, concurrent
editing support.
- The license question has to be discussed (GPLV3 vs other).
- Address the copyright issue (OSGEO?, contributor agreement,...)

These are the topics that will addressed in defining MapFish future.


Now, if you are interested in participating to the initial group
(constituent assembly), please raise your hands until October 30 on
the Mapfish dev list.


People who attended the BoF:
- Till Adams, Terrestris
- Yves Moisan, Borealis
- Jorge Gustavo Rocha, Portugal
- James Clonninger, SynCadd
- Julien Collaer, Sodiplan
- Michael Smith, US Corps of Engineer
- Julien-Samuel Lacroix, Mapgears
- Eric Lemoine, Camptocamp
- François Van der Biest, Camptocamp
- Cédric Moullet, Camptocamp
- Claude Philipona, Camptocamp
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Re: MapFish Bof at FOSS4G2010: summary

by Emmanuel BELO-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Dear MapFish community,

Claude Philipona wrote:
> Hi,
...
> Now, if you are interested in participating to the initial group
> (constituent assembly), please raise your hands until October 30 on
> the Mapfish dev list.

Sydney 2009 and other FOSS conferences have shown that MapFish is
attracting more interest each year. I read the notes from the BoF in
Syndey [1] and I'm glad a constituent assembly is emerging and I would
like to actively participate.

I'm a WebGIS project manager at Camptocamp and have been leading MapFish
projects since the beginning. In the middle of 2007 I took part in
defining application use cases that should be easy to cover with the
MapFish framework. Since then Camptocamp has done a lot of MapFish
projects. As a project manager I was involved in keeping a good balance
between specific developments and generic developments, so that both the
customers project but also MapFish community would benefit from the work
that was done. The success of MapFish shows that  project after project
we could extend the framework, taking into account the expectations of
the customers  for their applications but also the real needs of the
development team to achieve these applications.

In the last 2 years, I’ve lead  small, middle and large projects and
will continue to use MapFish as customers are expecting flexible and
efficient  webmapping applications. My past projects include probably
the most frequented MapFish website “map.schweizmobil.ch” that runs on
an AWS cluster. In late 2008, this project was a challenge and we had to
search for solutions combining following criteria: a fast application, a
sustainable load, an easy maintenance and of course to stay in the
budget of a real project. This year I was also  involved using MapFish
with another OSGEO project: GeoNetwork. We used MapFish to query the
catalogue, display the metadata results but also display on the map the
WMS services referenced in the metadata. I'm also really interested in
synergies that are set up around OSGEO projects.

I haven't attended FOSS4G since 2006, but I've been representing MapFish
in Switzerland and German conferences since 2007 (Intergeo open source
park, FOSSGIS Conferences, Open Expo, GIS-SIT) where the community has
been growing  significantly.

I'd like to keep the community informed of customer needs and about the
issues my team faces to achieve customer requirements. I'd also like to
work together with the developers to identify solutions so that, month
after month, smoother projects can be achieved with the MapFish
framework. This includes both updating the framework to make it easier
for the developers to meet customer needs, but also communicating the
possibilities of the framework so that a better knowledge of what can be
achieved within a defined budget is spread. As MapFish is nearly a quite
complete framework (see Claude's email about identified needs), working
now on improving the framework to address customer requirements in a
more efficient way is from my point of view one of the most challenging
issue we have to address. This is important in regard of a sustainable
development of all open source companies using the framework.

Best regards,

Emmanuel

[1]
http://www.nabble.com/MapFish-Bof-at-FOSS4G2010%3A-summary-td26020569.html

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Re: MapFish Bof at FOSS4G2010: summary

by Till Adams :: Rate this Message:

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 Hi Claude, @all,

thanks a lot for the really good review of our BOF.
In the BOF I already raised my hand on the BOF, but to be complete, I'll do
it again now.

Regards, Till


 
----------------ursprüngliche Nachricht-----------------
Von: "Claude Philipona" claude.philipona@...
An: "Mapfish Users" users@..., "Mapfish Dev" dev@...
Datum: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:49:49 +1100
-------------------------------------------------
 
 

> Hi,
>
> The MapFish BoF took place yesterday at the FOSS4G conference, with
> about 11 participants from different organizations and with different
> backgrounds. All are sharing a great interest in MapFish and are
> interested in its future development.
>
> The goal of the BoF was to pursue the discussions already started on
> the list and on IRC.
>
> Just to settle the global context, Claude quickly recalled the MapFish
history:

> - MapFish was initiated by Camptocamp to ease the development of
> complex Web2.0 type webmapping application
> - MapFish was made as a development framework to help the developer
> address the project requirements without starting from scratch each
> time.
> - A growing interest from users, integrators, organizations outside
> Camptocamp showed that MapFish meets some needs for implementing
> webmapping application
> - MapFish is now at a crossing point. It has been built iteratively
> from the needs and requirements of different projects. It is now time
> to decide for the future of MapFish community: what MapFish framework
> should offer?, what should not be in MapFish? Briefly said, it is
> time, based on the existing experiences, to set the future targets for
> MapFish and to choose the best ways to do it.
> - It is now time to organize the global community in a broader way, to
> organize the project governance.
> - Considering the wide range of interest and the need of such type of
> solution, it is also time to apply for OSGeo incubation.
>
> Then, a discussion took place about the PSC creation (Project Steering
> Committee): what would be the goal of the PSC?, the decision made by
> the PSC?, how many members?, and from which backgrounds?. 7
> participants showed their interest to be part of the PSC and 2 persons
> not present at FOSS4G have already reported their interest. During the
> discussion, it turned out that the exact fixed number and the
> background was not the biggest issue at the moment (except that a huge
> number is probably not efficient). Meritocracy has to play a role in
> regard to PSC. Additionally,it would be good that a majority of PSC
> members are not also part of Camptocamp. The important issue was to
> settle, at the moment, the global MapFish project's governance in an
> open way. Instead of directly creating a formal fixed PSC, it was
> agreed to create a constituent assembly, formed by any person willing
> to put energy in the MapFish future. The goals of this assembly are:
> - Set the rule for the PSC and lead to the official PSC start
> - Organize the discussion about the MapFish future (general roadmap)
>
> Anyone interested to actively participate to this assembly is welcome
> to notify his interest on the dev mailing list.
>
> After presenting each others, telling a little about their backgrounds
> and explaining the reasons that make them have interest in MapFish,
> each participant presented their global expectations related to
> MapFish, which can be summarized with the following non-exhaustive
> statements:
> - MapFish needs to help the developer create webmapping application
> without reinventing the wheel.
> - MapFish is a development framework.
> - MapFish has to be a complete web mapping solution that can simplify
> the creation of web mapping infrastructure.
> - The architecture of MapFish has to be clearly stated (typically the
> position of GeoExt and MapFish client).
> - MapFish has to be a framework providing easy way to implement high
> level end user functionalities, both on client and server side.
> - The importance of usability, look&feel, "sexiness" of capabilities
> of MapFish framework were reported by several participants
> - MapFish should use other powerful OSGEO technologies, collaborate
> with the others projects and don't need to reinvent the wheel.
> - A simple deployment procedure has to proposed to start with MapFish.
> - The position of Studio and Print have to be clarified.
> - The following needs were identified: Oracle, security, concurrent
> editing support.
> - The license question has to be discussed (GPLV3 vs other).
> - Address the copyright issue (OSGEO?, contributor agreement,...)
>
> These are the topics that will addressed in defining MapFish future.
>
>
> Now, if you are interested in participating to the initial group
> (constituent assembly), please raise your hands until October 30 on
> the Mapfish dev list.
>
>
> People who attended the BoF:
> - Till Adams, Terrestris
> - Yves Moisan, Borealis
> - Jorge Gustavo Rocha, Portugal
> - James Clonninger, SynCadd
> - Julien Collaer, Sodiplan
> - Michael Smith, US Corps of Engineer
> - Julien-Samuel Lacroix, Mapgears
> - Eric Lemoine, Camptocamp
> - François Van der Biest, Camptocamp
> - Cédric Moullet, Camptocamp
> - Claude Philipona, Camptocamp
> _______________________________________________
> Dev mailing list
> Dev@...
> http://www.mapfish.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
>


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Re: MapFish Bof at FOSS4G2010: summary

by cedricmoullet :: Rate this Message:

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I'm also interested in participating to the initial group.
I already propose to make a first IRC meeting of this group on wednesday 4/11 at 3 pm UTC: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87
Best regards,
Cédric

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Till Adams <adams@...> wrote:
 Hi Claude, @all,

thanks a lot for the really good review of our BOF.
In the BOF I already raised my hand on the BOF, but to be complete, I'll do
it again now.

Regards, Till



----------------ursprüngliche Nachricht-----------------
Von: "Claude Philipona" claude.philipona@...
An: "Mapfish Users" users@..., "Mapfish Dev" dev@...
Datum: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:49:49 +1100
-------------------------------------------------


> Hi,
>
> The MapFish BoF took place yesterday at the FOSS4G conference, with
> about 11 participants from different organizations and with different
> backgrounds. All are sharing a great interest in MapFish and are
> interested in its future development.
>
> The goal of the BoF was to pursue the discussions already started on
> the list and on IRC.
>
> Just to settle the global context, Claude quickly recalled the MapFish
history:
> - MapFish was initiated by Camptocamp to ease the development of
> complex Web2.0 type webmapping application
> - MapFish was made as a development framework to help the developer
> address the project requirements without starting from scratch each
> time.
> - A growing interest from users, integrators, organizations outside
> Camptocamp showed that MapFish meets some needs for implementing
> webmapping application
> - MapFish is now at a crossing point. It has been built iteratively
> from the needs and requirements of different projects. It is now time
> to decide for the future of MapFish community: what MapFish framework
> should offer?, what should not be in MapFish? Briefly said, it is
> time, based on the existing experiences, to set the future targets for
> MapFish and to choose the best ways to do it.
> - It is now time to organize the global community in a broader way, to
> organize the project governance.
> - Considering the wide range of interest and the need of such type of
> solution, it is also time to apply for OSGeo incubation.
>
> Then, a discussion took place about the PSC creation (Project Steering
> Committee): what would be the goal of the PSC?, the decision made by
> the PSC?, how many members?, and from which backgrounds?. 7
> participants showed their interest to be part of the PSC and 2 persons
> not present at FOSS4G have already reported their interest. During the
> discussion, it turned out that the exact fixed number and the
> background was not the biggest issue at the moment (except that a huge
> number is probably not efficient). Meritocracy has to play a role in
> regard to PSC. Additionally,it would be good that a majority of PSC
> members are not also part of Camptocamp. The important issue was to
> settle, at the moment, the global MapFish project's governance in an
> open way. Instead of directly creating a formal fixed PSC, it was
> agreed to create a constituent assembly, formed by any person willing
> to put energy in the MapFish future. The goals of this assembly are:
> - Set the rule for the PSC and lead to the official PSC start
> - Organize the discussion about the MapFish future (general roadmap)
>
> Anyone interested to actively participate to this assembly is welcome
> to notify his interest on the dev mailing list.
>
> After presenting each others, telling a little about their backgrounds
> and explaining the reasons that make them have interest in MapFish,
> each participant presented their global expectations related to
> MapFish, which can be summarized with the following non-exhaustive
> statements:
> - MapFish needs to help the developer create webmapping application
> without reinventing the wheel.
> - MapFish is a development framework.
> - MapFish has to be a complete web mapping solution that can simplify
> the creation of web mapping infrastructure.
> - The architecture of MapFish has to be clearly stated (typically the
> position of GeoExt and MapFish client).
> - MapFish has to be a framework providing easy way to implement high
> level end user functionalities, both on client and server side.
> - The importance of usability, look&feel, "sexiness" of capabilities
> of MapFish framework were reported by several participants
> - MapFish should use other powerful OSGEO technologies, collaborate
> with the others projects and don't need to reinvent the wheel.
> - A simple deployment procedure has to proposed to start with MapFish.
> - The position of Studio and Print have to be clarified.
> - The following needs were identified: Oracle, security, concurrent
> editing support.
> - The license question has to be discussed (GPLV3 vs other).
> - Address the copyright issue (OSGEO?, contributor agreement,...)
>
> These are the topics that will addressed in defining MapFish future.
>
>
> Now, if you are interested in participating to the initial group
> (constituent assembly), please raise your hands until October 30 on
> the Mapfish dev list.
>
>
> People who attended the BoF:
> - Till Adams, Terrestris
> - Yves Moisan, Borealis
> - Jorge Gustavo Rocha, Portugal
> - James Clonninger, SynCadd
> - Julien Collaer, Sodiplan
> - Michael Smith, US Corps of Engineer
> - Julien-Samuel Lacroix, Mapgears
> - Eric Lemoine, Camptocamp
> - François Van der Biest, Camptocamp
> - Cédric Moullet, Camptocamp
> - Claude Philipona, Camptocamp
> _______________________________________________
> Dev mailing list
> Dev@...
> http://www.mapfish.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
>


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Re: MapFish Bof at FOSS4G2010: summary

by Julien-Samuel Lacroix-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi all,

I'm also interested like I said in the BoF. I'll be in transit at the
time of the meeting, but will review the summary and give my opinion
afterward.

Julien

Cédric Moullet wrote:

> I'm also interested in participating to the initial group.
> I already propose to make a first IRC meeting of this group on wednesday
> 4/11 at 3 pm UTC:
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87 
> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87>
> Best regards,
> Cédric
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Till Adams <adams@...
> <mailto:adams@...>> wrote:
>
>      Hi Claude, @all,
>
>     thanks a lot for the really good review of our BOF.
>     In the BOF I already raised my hand on the BOF, but to be complete,
>     I'll do
>     it again now.
>
>     Regards, Till
>
>
>
>     ----------------ursprüngliche Nachricht-----------------
>     Von: "Claude Philipona" claude.philipona@...
>     <mailto:claude.philipona@...>
>     An: "Mapfish Users" users@... <mailto:users@...>,
>     "Mapfish Dev" dev@... <mailto:dev@...>
>     Datum: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:49:49 +1100
>     -------------------------------------------------
>
>
>      > Hi,
>      >
>      > The MapFish BoF took place yesterday at the FOSS4G conference, with
>      > about 11 participants from different organizations and with different
>      > backgrounds. All are sharing a great interest in MapFish and are
>      > interested in its future development.
>      >
>      > The goal of the BoF was to pursue the discussions already started on
>      > the list and on IRC.
>      >
>      > Just to settle the global context, Claude quickly recalled the
>     MapFish
>     history:
>      > - MapFish was initiated by Camptocamp to ease the development of
>      > complex Web2.0 type webmapping application
>      > - MapFish was made as a development framework to help the developer
>      > address the project requirements without starting from scratch each
>      > time.
>      > - A growing interest from users, integrators, organizations outside
>      > Camptocamp showed that MapFish meets some needs for implementing
>      > webmapping application
>      > - MapFish is now at a crossing point. It has been built iteratively
>      > from the needs and requirements of different projects. It is now time
>      > to decide for the future of MapFish community: what MapFish framework
>      > should offer?, what should not be in MapFish? Briefly said, it is
>      > time, based on the existing experiences, to set the future
>     targets for
>      > MapFish and to choose the best ways to do it.
>      > - It is now time to organize the global community in a broader
>     way, to
>      > organize the project governance.
>      > - Considering the wide range of interest and the need of such type of
>      > solution, it is also time to apply for OSGeo incubation.
>      >
>      > Then, a discussion took place about the PSC creation (Project
>     Steering
>      > Committee): what would be the goal of the PSC?, the decision made by
>      > the PSC?, how many members?, and from which backgrounds?. 7
>      > participants showed their interest to be part of the PSC and 2
>     persons
>      > not present at FOSS4G have already reported their interest.
>     During the
>      > discussion, it turned out that the exact fixed number and the
>      > background was not the biggest issue at the moment (except that a
>     huge
>      > number is probably not efficient). Meritocracy has to play a role in
>      > regard to PSC. Additionally,it would be good that a majority of PSC
>      > members are not also part of Camptocamp. The important issue was to
>      > settle, at the moment, the global MapFish project's governance in an
>      > open way. Instead of directly creating a formal fixed PSC, it was
>      > agreed to create a constituent assembly, formed by any person willing
>      > to put energy in the MapFish future. The goals of this assembly are:
>      > - Set the rule for the PSC and lead to the official PSC start
>      > - Organize the discussion about the MapFish future (general roadmap)
>      >
>      > Anyone interested to actively participate to this assembly is welcome
>      > to notify his interest on the dev mailing list.
>      >
>      > After presenting each others, telling a little about their
>     backgrounds
>      > and explaining the reasons that make them have interest in MapFish,
>      > each participant presented their global expectations related to
>      > MapFish, which can be summarized with the following non-exhaustive
>      > statements:
>      > - MapFish needs to help the developer create webmapping application
>      > without reinventing the wheel.
>      > - MapFish is a development framework.
>      > - MapFish has to be a complete web mapping solution that can simplify
>      > the creation of web mapping infrastructure.
>      > - The architecture of MapFish has to be clearly stated (typically the
>      > position of GeoExt and MapFish client).
>      > - MapFish has to be a framework providing easy way to implement high
>      > level end user functionalities, both on client and server side.
>      > - The importance of usability, look&feel, "sexiness" of capabilities
>      > of MapFish framework were reported by several participants
>      > - MapFish should use other powerful OSGEO technologies, collaborate
>      > with the others projects and don't need to reinvent the wheel.
>      > - A simple deployment procedure has to proposed to start with
>     MapFish.
>      > - The position of Studio and Print have to be clarified.
>      > - The following needs were identified: Oracle, security, concurrent
>      > editing support.
>      > - The license question has to be discussed (GPLV3 vs other).
>      > - Address the copyright issue (OSGEO?, contributor agreement,...)
>      >
>      > These are the topics that will addressed in defining MapFish future.
>      >
>      >
>      > Now, if you are interested in participating to the initial group
>      > (constituent assembly), please raise your hands until October 30 on
>      > the Mapfish dev list.
>      >
>      >
>      > People who attended the BoF:
>      > - Till Adams, Terrestris
>      > - Yves Moisan, Borealis
>      > - Jorge Gustavo Rocha, Portugal
>      > - James Clonninger, SynCadd
>      > - Julien Collaer, Sodiplan
>      > - Michael Smith, US Corps of Engineer
>      > - Julien-Samuel Lacroix, Mapgears
>      > - Eric Lemoine, Camptocamp
>      > - François Van der Biest, Camptocamp
>      > - Cédric Moullet, Camptocamp
>      > - Claude Philipona, Camptocamp
>      > _______________________________________________
>      > Dev mailing list
>      > Dev@... <mailto:Dev@...>
>      > http://www.mapfish.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
>      >
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Dev mailing list
>     Dev@... <mailto:Dev@...>
>     http://www.mapfish.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
>
>
>
>
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Re: MapFish Bof at FOSS4G2010: summary

by cedricmoullet :: Rate this Message:

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Hi All,
Several persons are on their way back from down under and the OSGEO board of director will decide tomorrow about the incubation for MapFish (http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2009-11-05).
Therefore, I propose to make this first IRC meeting next wednesday 5/11 at 3 pm UTC: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=11&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87
Best regards,
Cédric

2009/10/26 Julien-Samuel Lacroix <jlacroix@...>
Hi all,

I'm also interested like I said in the BoF. I'll be in transit at the time of the meeting, but will review the summary and give my opinion afterward.

Julien

Cédric Moullet wrote:
I'm also interested in participating to the initial group.
I already propose to make a first IRC meeting of this group on wednesday 4/11 at 3 pm UTC: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87 <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87>
Best regards,
Cédric


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Till Adams <adams@... <mailto:adams@...>> wrote:

    Hi Claude, @all,

   thanks a lot for the really good review of our BOF.
   In the BOF I already raised my hand on the BOF, but to be complete,
   I'll do
   it again now.

   Regards, Till



   ----------------ursprüngliche Nachricht-----------------
   Von: "Claude Philipona" claude.philipona@...
   <mailto:claude.philipona@...>
   An: "Mapfish Users" users@... <mailto:users@...>,
   "Mapfish Dev" dev@... <mailto:dev@...>

   Datum: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:49:49 +1100
   -------------------------------------------------


    > Hi,
    >
    > The MapFish BoF took place yesterday at the FOSS4G conference, with
    > about 11 participants from different organizations and with different
    > backgrounds. All are sharing a great interest in MapFish and are
    > interested in its future development.
    >
    > The goal of the BoF was to pursue the discussions already started on
    > the list and on IRC.
    >
    > Just to settle the global context, Claude quickly recalled the
   MapFish
   history:
    > - MapFish was initiated by Camptocamp to ease the development of
    > complex Web2.0 type webmapping application
    > - MapFish was made as a development framework to help the developer
    > address the project requirements without starting from scratch each
    > time.
    > - A growing interest from users, integrators, organizations outside
    > Camptocamp showed that MapFish meets some needs for implementing
    > webmapping application
    > - MapFish is now at a crossing point. It has been built iteratively
    > from the needs and requirements of different projects. It is now time
    > to decide for the future of MapFish community: what MapFish framework
    > should offer?, what should not be in MapFish? Briefly said, it is
    > time, based on the existing experiences, to set the future
   targets for
    > MapFish and to choose the best ways to do it.
    > - It is now time to organize the global community in a broader
   way, to
    > organize the project governance.
    > - Considering the wide range of interest and the need of such type of
    > solution, it is also time to apply for OSGeo incubation.
    >
    > Then, a discussion took place about the PSC creation (Project
   Steering
    > Committee): what would be the goal of the PSC?, the decision made by
    > the PSC?, how many members?, and from which backgrounds?. 7
    > participants showed their interest to be part of the PSC and 2
   persons
    > not present at FOSS4G have already reported their interest.
   During the
    > discussion, it turned out that the exact fixed number and the
    > background was not the biggest issue at the moment (except that a
   huge
    > number is probably not efficient). Meritocracy has to play a role in
    > regard to PSC. Additionally,it would be good that a majority of PSC
    > members are not also part of Camptocamp. The important issue was to
    > settle, at the moment, the global MapFish project's governance in an
    > open way. Instead of directly creating a formal fixed PSC, it was
    > agreed to create a constituent assembly, formed by any person willing
    > to put energy in the MapFish future. The goals of this assembly are:
    > - Set the rule for the PSC and lead to the official PSC start
    > - Organize the discussion about the MapFish future (general roadmap)
    >
    > Anyone interested to actively participate to this assembly is welcome
    > to notify his interest on the dev mailing list.
    >
    > After presenting each others, telling a little about their
   backgrounds
    > and explaining the reasons that make them have interest in MapFish,
    > each participant presented their global expectations related to
    > MapFish, which can be summarized with the following non-exhaustive
    > statements:
    > - MapFish needs to help the developer create webmapping application
    > without reinventing the wheel.
    > - MapFish is a development framework.
    > - MapFish has to be a complete web mapping solution that can simplify
    > the creation of web mapping infrastructure.
    > - The architecture of MapFish has to be clearly stated (typically the
    > position of GeoExt and MapFish client).
    > - MapFish has to be a framework providing easy way to implement high
    > level end user functionalities, both on client and server side.
    > - The importance of usability, look&feel, "sexiness" of capabilities
    > of MapFish framework were reported by several participants
    > - MapFish should use other powerful OSGEO technologies, collaborate
    > with the others projects and don't need to reinvent the wheel.
    > - A simple deployment procedure has to proposed to start with
   MapFish.
    > - The position of Studio and Print have to be clarified.
    > - The following needs were identified: Oracle, security, concurrent
    > editing support.
    > - The license question has to be discussed (GPLV3 vs other).
    > - Address the copyright issue (OSGEO?, contributor agreement,...)
    >
    > These are the topics that will addressed in defining MapFish future.
    >
    >
    > Now, if you are interested in participating to the initial group
    > (constituent assembly), please raise your hands until October 30 on
    > the Mapfish dev list.
    >
    >
    > People who attended the BoF:
    > - Till Adams, Terrestris
    > - Yves Moisan, Borealis
    > - Jorge Gustavo Rocha, Portugal
    > - James Clonninger, SynCadd
    > - Julien Collaer, Sodiplan
    > - Michael Smith, US Corps of Engineer
    > - Julien-Samuel Lacroix, Mapgears
    > - Eric Lemoine, Camptocamp
    > - François Van der Biest, Camptocamp
    > - Cédric Moullet, Camptocamp
    > - Claude Philipona, Camptocamp
    > _______________________________________________
    > Dev mailing list
    > Dev@... <mailto:Dev@...>

    > http://www.mapfish.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
    >


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Re: MapFish Bof at FOSS4G2010: summary

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Hi,

As I said, I won't be able to make it. I'm leaving Australia in 12 hours
and will be back on my feet only on friday, but let's proceed anyway and
I'll catch up with the meeting summary. Do you have an agenda?

Julien

Cédric Moullet wrote:

> Hi All,
> Several persons are on their way back from down under and the OSGEO
> board of director will decide tomorrow about the incubation for MapFish
> (http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2009-11-05).
> Therefore, I propose to make this first IRC meeting next wednesday 5/11
> at 3 pm UTC:
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=11&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87 
> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=11&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87>
> Best regards,
> Cédric
>
> 2009/10/26 Julien-Samuel Lacroix <jlacroix@...
> <mailto:jlacroix@...>>
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     I'm also interested like I said in the BoF. I'll be in transit at
>     the time of the meeting, but will review the summary and give my
>     opinion afterward.
>
>     Julien
>
>     Cédric Moullet wrote:
>
>         I'm also interested in participating to the initial group.
>         I already propose to make a first IRC meeting of this group on
>         wednesday 4/11 at 3 pm UTC:
>         http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87
>         <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87>
>         <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87
>         <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87>>
>         Best regards,
>         Cédric
>
>
>         On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Till Adams <adams@...
>         <mailto:adams@...> <mailto:adams@...
>         <mailto:adams@...>>> wrote:
>
>             Hi Claude, @all,
>
>            thanks a lot for the really good review of our BOF.
>            In the BOF I already raised my hand on the BOF, but to be
>         complete,
>            I'll do
>            it again now.
>
>            Regards, Till
>
>
>
>            ----------------ursprüngliche Nachricht-----------------
>            Von: "Claude Philipona" claude.philipona@...
>         <mailto:claude.philipona@...>
>            <mailto:claude.philipona@...
>         <mailto:claude.philipona@...>>
>            An: "Mapfish Users" users@...
>         <mailto:users@...> <mailto:users@...
>         <mailto:users@...>>,
>            "Mapfish Dev" dev@... <mailto:dev@...>
>         <mailto:dev@... <mailto:dev@...>>
>
>            Datum: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:49:49 +1100
>            -------------------------------------------------
>
>
>             > Hi,
>             >
>             > The MapFish BoF took place yesterday at the FOSS4G
>         conference, with
>             > about 11 participants from different organizations and
>         with different
>             > backgrounds. All are sharing a great interest in MapFish
>         and are
>             > interested in its future development.
>             >
>             > The goal of the BoF was to pursue the discussions already
>         started on
>             > the list and on IRC.
>             >
>             > Just to settle the global context, Claude quickly recalled the
>            MapFish
>            history:
>             > - MapFish was initiated by Camptocamp to ease the
>         development of
>             > complex Web2.0 type webmapping application
>             > - MapFish was made as a development framework to help the
>         developer
>             > address the project requirements without starting from
>         scratch each
>             > time.
>             > - A growing interest from users, integrators,
>         organizations outside
>             > Camptocamp showed that MapFish meets some needs for
>         implementing
>             > webmapping application
>             > - MapFish is now at a crossing point. It has been built
>         iteratively
>             > from the needs and requirements of different projects. It
>         is now time
>             > to decide for the future of MapFish community: what
>         MapFish framework
>             > should offer?, what should not be in MapFish? Briefly
>         said, it is
>             > time, based on the existing experiences, to set the future
>            targets for
>             > MapFish and to choose the best ways to do it.
>             > - It is now time to organize the global community in a broader
>            way, to
>             > organize the project governance.
>             > - Considering the wide range of interest and the need of
>         such type of
>             > solution, it is also time to apply for OSGeo incubation.
>             >
>             > Then, a discussion took place about the PSC creation (Project
>            Steering
>             > Committee): what would be the goal of the PSC?, the
>         decision made by
>             > the PSC?, how many members?, and from which backgrounds?. 7
>             > participants showed their interest to be part of the PSC and 2
>            persons
>             > not present at FOSS4G have already reported their interest.
>            During the
>             > discussion, it turned out that the exact fixed number and the
>             > background was not the biggest issue at the moment (except
>         that a
>            huge
>             > number is probably not efficient). Meritocracy has to play
>         a role in
>             > regard to PSC. Additionally,it would be good that a
>         majority of PSC
>             > members are not also part of Camptocamp. The important
>         issue was to
>             > settle, at the moment, the global MapFish project's
>         governance in an
>             > open way. Instead of directly creating a formal fixed PSC,
>         it was
>             > agreed to create a constituent assembly, formed by any
>         person willing
>             > to put energy in the MapFish future. The goals of this
>         assembly are:
>             > - Set the rule for the PSC and lead to the official PSC start
>             > - Organize the discussion about the MapFish future
>         (general roadmap)
>             >
>             > Anyone interested to actively participate to this assembly
>         is welcome
>             > to notify his interest on the dev mailing list.
>             >
>             > After presenting each others, telling a little about their
>            backgrounds
>             > and explaining the reasons that make them have interest in
>         MapFish,
>             > each participant presented their global expectations
>         related to
>             > MapFish, which can be summarized with the following
>         non-exhaustive
>             > statements:
>             > - MapFish needs to help the developer create webmapping
>         application
>             > without reinventing the wheel.
>             > - MapFish is a development framework.
>             > - MapFish has to be a complete web mapping solution that
>         can simplify
>             > the creation of web mapping infrastructure.
>             > - The architecture of MapFish has to be clearly stated
>         (typically the
>             > position of GeoExt and MapFish client).
>             > - MapFish has to be a framework providing easy way to
>         implement high
>             > level end user functionalities, both on client and server
>         side.
>             > - The importance of usability, look&feel, "sexiness" of
>         capabilities
>             > of MapFish framework were reported by several participants
>             > - MapFish should use other powerful OSGEO technologies,
>         collaborate
>             > with the others projects and don't need to reinvent the wheel.
>             > - A simple deployment procedure has to proposed to start with
>            MapFish.
>             > - The position of Studio and Print have to be clarified.
>             > - The following needs were identified: Oracle, security,
>         concurrent
>             > editing support.
>             > - The license question has to be discussed (GPLV3 vs other).
>             > - Address the copyright issue (OSGEO?, contributor
>         agreement,...)
>             >
>             > These are the topics that will addressed in defining
>         MapFish future.
>             >
>             >
>             > Now, if you are interested in participating to the initial
>         group
>             > (constituent assembly), please raise your hands until
>         October 30 on
>             > the Mapfish dev list.
>             >
>             >
>             > People who attended the BoF:
>             > - Till Adams, Terrestris
>             > - Yves Moisan, Borealis
>             > - Jorge Gustavo Rocha, Portugal
>             > - James Clonninger, SynCadd
>             > - Julien Collaer, Sodiplan
>             > - Michael Smith, US Corps of Engineer
>             > - Julien-Samuel Lacroix, Mapgears
>             > - Eric Lemoine, Camptocamp
>             > - François Van der Biest, Camptocamp
>             > - Cédric Moullet, Camptocamp
>             > - Claude Philipona, Camptocamp
>             > _______________________________________________
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>         <mailto:Dev@... <mailto:Dev@...>>
>
>             > http://www.mapfish.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
>             >
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
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>         PSE A
>         CH-1015 Lausanne
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>         <http://www.camptocamp.com>  / www.mapfish.org
>         <http://www.mapfish.org> <http://www.mapfish.org> /
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>         <http://twitter.com/cedricmoullet> / mapfishblog.blogspot.com/
>         <http://mapfishblog.blogspot.com/>
>         <http://mapfishblog.blogspot.com/>
>
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>
>
>
>
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Re: MapFish Bof at FOSS4G2010: summary

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Oups, I wanted to write next wednesday 11/11.
Sorry for the confusion,
Cédric

2009/11/4 Cédric Moullet <cedric.moullet@...>
Hi All,
Several persons are on their way back from down under and the OSGEO board of director will decide tomorrow about the incubation for MapFish (http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2009-11-05).
Therefore, I propose to make this first IRC meeting next wednesday 5/11 at 3 pm UTC: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=11&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87
Best regards,
Cédric

2009/10/26 Julien-Samuel Lacroix <jlacroix@...>

Hi all,

I'm also interested like I said in the BoF. I'll be in transit at the time of the meeting, but will review the summary and give my opinion afterward.

Julien

Cédric Moullet wrote:
I'm also interested in participating to the initial group.
I already propose to make a first IRC meeting of this group on wednesday 4/11 at 3 pm UTC: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87 <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87>
Best regards,
Cédric


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Till Adams <adams@... <mailto:adams@...>> wrote:

    Hi Claude, @all,

   thanks a lot for the really good review of our BOF.
   In the BOF I already raised my hand on the BOF, but to be complete,
   I'll do
   it again now.

   Regards, Till



   ----------------ursprüngliche Nachricht-----------------
   Von: "Claude Philipona" claude.philipona@...
   <mailto:claude.philipona@...>
   An: "Mapfish Users" users@... <mailto:users@...>,
   "Mapfish Dev" dev@... <mailto:dev@...>

   Datum: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:49:49 +1100
   -------------------------------------------------


    > Hi,
    >
    > The MapFish BoF took place yesterday at the FOSS4G conference, with
    > about 11 participants from different organizations and with different
    > backgrounds. All are sharing a great interest in MapFish and are
    > interested in its future development.
    >
    > The goal of the BoF was to pursue the discussions already started on
    > the list and on IRC.
    >
    > Just to settle the global context, Claude quickly recalled the
   MapFish
   history:
    > - MapFish was initiated by Camptocamp to ease the development of
    > complex Web2.0 type webmapping application
    > - MapFish was made as a development framework to help the developer
    > address the project requirements without starting from scratch each
    > time.
    > - A growing interest from users, integrators, organizations outside
    > Camptocamp showed that MapFish meets some needs for implementing
    > webmapping application
    > - MapFish is now at a crossing point. It has been built iteratively
    > from the needs and requirements of different projects. It is now time
    > to decide for the future of MapFish community: what MapFish framework
    > should offer?, what should not be in MapFish? Briefly said, it is
    > time, based on the existing experiences, to set the future
   targets for
    > MapFish and to choose the best ways to do it.
    > - It is now time to organize the global community in a broader
   way, to
    > organize the project governance.
    > - Considering the wide range of interest and the need of such type of
    > solution, it is also time to apply for OSGeo incubation.
    >
    > Then, a discussion took place about the PSC creation (Project
   Steering
    > Committee): what would be the goal of the PSC?, the decision made by
    > the PSC?, how many members?, and from which backgrounds?. 7
    > participants showed their interest to be part of the PSC and 2
   persons
    > not present at FOSS4G have already reported their interest.
   During the
    > discussion, it turned out that the exact fixed number and the
    > background was not the biggest issue at the moment (except that a
   huge
    > number is probably not efficient). Meritocracy has to play a role in
    > regard to PSC. Additionally,it would be good that a majority of PSC
    > members are not also part of Camptocamp. The important issue was to
    > settle, at the moment, the global MapFish project's governance in an
    > open way. Instead of directly creating a formal fixed PSC, it was
    > agreed to create a constituent assembly, formed by any person willing
    > to put energy in the MapFish future. The goals of this assembly are:
    > - Set the rule for the PSC and lead to the official PSC start
    > - Organize the discussion about the MapFish future (general roadmap)
    >
    > Anyone interested to actively participate to this assembly is welcome
    > to notify his interest on the dev mailing list.
    >
    > After presenting each others, telling a little about their
   backgrounds
    > and explaining the reasons that make them have interest in MapFish,
    > each participant presented their global expectations related to
    > MapFish, which can be summarized with the following non-exhaustive
    > statements:
    > - MapFish needs to help the developer create webmapping application
    > without reinventing the wheel.
    > - MapFish is a development framework.
    > - MapFish has to be a complete web mapping solution that can simplify
    > the creation of web mapping infrastructure.
    > - The architecture of MapFish has to be clearly stated (typically the
    > position of GeoExt and MapFish client).
    > - MapFish has to be a framework providing easy way to implement high
    > level end user functionalities, both on client and server side.
    > - The importance of usability, look&feel, "sexiness" of capabilities
    > of MapFish framework were reported by several participants
    > - MapFish should use other powerful OSGEO technologies, collaborate
    > with the others projects and don't need to reinvent the wheel.
    > - A simple deployment procedure has to proposed to start with
   MapFish.
    > - The position of Studio and Print have to be clarified.
    > - The following needs were identified: Oracle, security, concurrent
    > editing support.
    > - The license question has to be discussed (GPLV3 vs other).
    > - Address the copyright issue (OSGEO?, contributor agreement,...)
    >
    > These are the topics that will addressed in defining MapFish future.
    >
    >
    > Now, if you are interested in participating to the initial group
    > (constituent assembly), please raise your hands until October 30 on
    > the Mapfish dev list.
    >
    >
    > People who attended the BoF:
    > - Till Adams, Terrestris
    > - Yves Moisan, Borealis
    > - Jorge Gustavo Rocha, Portugal
    > - James Clonninger, SynCadd
    > - Julien Collaer, Sodiplan
    > - Michael Smith, US Corps of Engineer
    > - Julien-Samuel Lacroix, Mapgears
    > - Eric Lemoine, Camptocamp
    > - François Van der Biest, Camptocamp
    > - Cédric Moullet, Camptocamp
    > - Claude Philipona, Camptocamp
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Re: MapFish Bof at FOSS4G2010: summary

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Great! I'll be there then.

Julien

Cédric Moullet wrote:

> Oups, I wanted to write next wednesday 11/11.
> Sorry for the confusion,
> Cédric
>
> 2009/11/4 Cédric Moullet <cedric.moullet@...
> <mailto:cedric.moullet@...>>
>
>     Hi All,
>     Several persons are on their way back from down under and the OSGEO
>     board of director will decide tomorrow about the incubation for
>     MapFish (http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2009-11-05).
>     Therefore, I propose to make this first IRC meeting next wednesday
>     5/11 at 3 pm UTC:
>     http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=11&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87
>     <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=11&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87>
>     Best regards,
>     Cédric
>
>     2009/10/26 Julien-Samuel Lacroix <jlacroix@...
>     <mailto:jlacroix@...>>
>
>         Hi all,
>
>         I'm also interested like I said in the BoF. I'll be in transit
>         at the time of the meeting, but will review the summary and give
>         my opinion afterward.
>
>         Julien
>
>         Cédric Moullet wrote:
>
>             I'm also interested in participating to the initial group.
>             I already propose to make a first IRC meeting of this group
>             on wednesday 4/11 at 3 pm UTC:
>             http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87
>             <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87>
>             <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87
>             <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=11&day=4&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87>>
>             Best regards,
>             Cédric
>
>
>             On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Till Adams
>             <adams@... <mailto:adams@...>
>             <mailto:adams@... <mailto:adams@...>>>
>             wrote:
>
>                 Hi Claude, @all,
>
>                thanks a lot for the really good review of our BOF.
>                In the BOF I already raised my hand on the BOF, but to be
>             complete,
>                I'll do
>                it again now.
>
>                Regards, Till
>
>
>
>                ----------------ursprüngliche Nachricht-----------------
>                Von: "Claude Philipona" claude.philipona@...
>             <mailto:claude.philipona@...>
>                <mailto:claude.philipona@...
>             <mailto:claude.philipona@...>>
>                An: "Mapfish Users" users@...
>             <mailto:users@...> <mailto:users@...
>             <mailto:users@...>>,
>                "Mapfish Dev" dev@... <mailto:dev@...>
>             <mailto:dev@... <mailto:dev@...>>
>
>                Datum: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:49:49 +1100
>                -------------------------------------------------
>
>
>                 > Hi,
>                 >
>                 > The MapFish BoF took place yesterday at the FOSS4G
>             conference, with
>                 > about 11 participants from different organizations and
>             with different
>                 > backgrounds. All are sharing a great interest in
>             MapFish and are
>                 > interested in its future development.
>                 >
>                 > The goal of the BoF was to pursue the discussions
>             already started on
>                 > the list and on IRC.
>                 >
>                 > Just to settle the global context, Claude quickly
>             recalled the
>                MapFish
>                history:
>                 > - MapFish was initiated by Camptocamp to ease the
>             development of
>                 > complex Web2.0 type webmapping application
>                 > - MapFish was made as a development framework to help
>             the developer
>                 > address the project requirements without starting from
>             scratch each
>                 > time.
>                 > - A growing interest from users, integrators,
>             organizations outside
>                 > Camptocamp showed that MapFish meets some needs for
>             implementing
>                 > webmapping application
>                 > - MapFish is now at a crossing point. It has been
>             built iteratively
>                 > from the needs and requirements of different projects.
>             It is now time
>                 > to decide for the future of MapFish community: what
>             MapFish framework
>                 > should offer?, what should not be in MapFish? Briefly
>             said, it is
>                 > time, based on the existing experiences, to set the future
>                targets for
>                 > MapFish and to choose the best ways to do it.
>                 > - It is now time to organize the global community in a
>             broader
>                way, to
>                 > organize the project governance.
>                 > - Considering the wide range of interest and the need
>             of such type of
>                 > solution, it is also time to apply for OSGeo incubation.
>                 >
>                 > Then, a discussion took place about the PSC creation
>             (Project
>                Steering
>                 > Committee): what would be the goal of the PSC?, the
>             decision made by
>                 > the PSC?, how many members?, and from which
>             backgrounds?. 7
>                 > participants showed their interest to be part of the
>             PSC and 2
>                persons
>                 > not present at FOSS4G have already reported their
>             interest.
>                During the
>                 > discussion, it turned out that the exact fixed number
>             and the
>                 > background was not the biggest issue at the moment
>             (except that a
>                huge
>                 > number is probably not efficient). Meritocracy has to
>             play a role in
>                 > regard to PSC. Additionally,it would be good that a
>             majority of PSC
>                 > members are not also part of Camptocamp. The important
>             issue was to
>                 > settle, at the moment, the global MapFish project's
>             governance in an
>                 > open way. Instead of directly creating a formal fixed
>             PSC, it was
>                 > agreed to create a constituent assembly, formed by any
>             person willing
>                 > to put energy in the MapFish future. The goals of this
>             assembly are:
>                 > - Set the rule for the PSC and lead to the official
>             PSC start
>                 > - Organize the discussion about the MapFish future
>             (general roadmap)
>                 >
>                 > Anyone interested to actively participate to this
>             assembly is welcome
>                 > to notify his interest on the dev mailing list.
>                 >
>                 > After presenting each others, telling a little about their
>                backgrounds
>                 > and explaining the reasons that make them have
>             interest in MapFish,
>                 > each participant presented their global expectations
>             related to
>                 > MapFish, which can be summarized with the following
>             non-exhaustive
>                 > statements:
>                 > - MapFish needs to help the developer create
>             webmapping application
>                 > without reinventing the wheel.
>                 > - MapFish is a development framework.
>                 > - MapFish has to be a complete web mapping solution
>             that can simplify
>                 > the creation of web mapping infrastructure.
>                 > - The architecture of MapFish has to be clearly stated
>             (typically the
>                 > position of GeoExt and MapFish client).
>                 > - MapFish has to be a framework providing easy way to
>             implement high
>                 > level end user functionalities, both on client and
>             server side.
>                 > - The importance of usability, look&feel, "sexiness"
>             of capabilities
>                 > of MapFish framework were reported by several participants
>                 > - MapFish should use other powerful OSGEO
>             technologies, collaborate
>                 > with the others projects and don't need to reinvent
>             the wheel.
>                 > - A simple deployment procedure has to proposed to
>             start with
>                MapFish.
>                 > - The position of Studio and Print have to be clarified.
>                 > - The following needs were identified: Oracle,
>             security, concurrent
>                 > editing support.
>                 > - The license question has to be discussed (GPLV3 vs
>             other).
>                 > - Address the copyright issue (OSGEO?, contributor
>             agreement,...)
>                 >
>                 > These are the topics that will addressed in defining
>             MapFish future.
>                 >
>                 >
>                 > Now, if you are interested in participating to the
>             initial group
>                 > (constituent assembly), please raise your hands until
>             October 30 on
>                 > the Mapfish dev list.
>                 >
>                 >
>                 > People who attended the BoF:
>                 > - Till Adams, Terrestris
>                 > - Yves Moisan, Borealis
>                 > - Jorge Gustavo Rocha, Portugal
>                 > - James Clonninger, SynCadd
>                 > - Julien Collaer, Sodiplan
>                 > - Michael Smith, US Corps of Engineer
>                 > - Julien-Samuel Lacroix, Mapgears
>                 > - Eric Lemoine, Camptocamp
>                 > - François Van der Biest, Camptocamp
>                 > - Cédric Moullet, Camptocamp
>                 > - Claude Philipona, Camptocamp
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