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Search layer

2009-12-05T21:31:16Z

Hi all.

I need to implement search functionality (similar to
http://demo.mapfish.org/mapfishsample/1.2/demos/c2corg/search.html) on
my map using openlayers and mapfish.

When i look at the source for the above url, i see the following piece
of code that i don't understand.
What is this protocol url and where can i get this for my map service?
/*
* Create protocol
*/
var protocol = mapfish.Protocol.MapFish.create({
url: "../../summits",
params: {
limit: 10
}
})

Does anybody have another search example that i can look at?

I am trying to search on the following layer
var samu = new OpenLayers.Layer.WMS(
'Map Units layer',
'http://cdetux2.unibe.ch/geoserver/wms?',
{
layers: 'wocat:vw_map_rsa_2009',
transparent: true
},
{
singleTile: true
}
);
map.addLayer(samu);

Regards,
Herman Badenhorst
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Re: MapFish PSC process and bootstrapping

2009-12-05T00:42:46Z

On Friday, December 4, 2009, Julien-Samuel Lacroix
<jlacroix@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yves Moisan wrote:
>
> I was expecting to see the original wording with an annotation. So does
> point 7 means any issue not requiring unanimity can be passed with 2
> people voting +1, that is 2/5 of the core PSC. Will that stay the same
> when the PSC grows to 7 or 9 ?
>
> Yes, but PSC members are expected to vote, this is part of the
> "contract" they sign.
>
>
> Yes. But what I mean is if that a proposal can pass with +2, it means
> it takes 2 PSC members for a proposal to pass. The higher the number of
> PSC members, the smaller the fraction of the board is needed for a
> proposal to pass. That was my concern : 2/5 is not like 2/9 so at one
> point if the board becomes relatively large only two members can tilt
> the balance. So we may need to review item 7 as the PSC grows.
>
>
>
> I'm not sure it's important. We are in a volontary contribution environment, so if we get at least 2 supportive members that's good enough IMO. All the proposal are open for 2 business days anyway so all PSC members have the time to vote. No voting is the same as a 0 and if we get 2 +1 and 7 +0/0/-0 on a proposal it's still good enough for me. That means only 2 PSC understand or are interested in the issue enough to support it. Every PSC members has a veto power on every proposal anyway so each PSC can tilt the balance in the end.

I agree with Julien.

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Re: MapFish PSC process and bootstrapping

2009-12-04T12:26:23Z

Hi,

Yves Moisan wrote:

>>> I was expecting to see the original wording with an annotation. So does
>>> point 7 means any issue not requiring unanimity can be passed with 2
>>> people voting +1, that is 2/5 of the core PSC. Will that stay the same
>>> when the PSC grows to 7 or 9 ?
>> Yes, but PSC members are expected to vote, this is part of the
>> "contract" they sign.
>
> Yes. But what I mean is if that a proposal can pass with +2, it means
> it takes 2 PSC members for a proposal to pass. The higher the number of
> PSC members, the smaller the fraction of the board is needed for a
> proposal to pass. That was my concern : 2/5 is not like 2/9 so at one
> point if the board becomes relatively large only two members can tilt
> the balance. So we may need to review item 7 as the PSC grows.
>

I'm not sure it's important. We are in a volontary contribution
environment, so if we get at least 2 supportive members that's good
enough IMO. All the proposal are open for 2 business days anyway so all
PSC members have the time to vote. No voting is the same as a 0 and if
we get 2 +1 and 7 +0/0/-0 on a proposal it's still good enough for me.
That means only 2 PSC understand or are interested in the issue enough
to support it. Every PSC members has a veto power on every proposal
anyway so each PSC can tilt the balance in the end.

Julien

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Re: MapFish PSC process and bootstrapping

2009-12-04T08:45:35Z

> > I was expecting to see the original wording with an annotation. So does
> > point 7 means any issue not requiring unanimity can be passed with 2
> > people voting +1, that is 2/5 of the core PSC. Will that stay the same
> > when the PSC grows to 7 or 9 ?
>
> Yes, but PSC members are expected to vote, this is part of the
> "contract" they sign.

Yes. But what I mean is if that a proposal can pass with +2, it means
it takes 2 PSC members for a proposal to pass. The higher the number of
PSC members, the smaller the fraction of the board is needed for a
proposal to pass. That was my concern : 2/5 is not like 2/9 so at one
point if the board becomes relatively large only two members can tilt
the balance. So we may need to review item 7 as the PSC grows.

> >
> > I would put the explanation you added in point 7 in the "Issues
> > Requiring Unanimous Approval" section :
> >
> > Issues Requiring Unanimous Approval
> >
> > The following list are issues for which all committee members must
> > indicate +1 for the proposal to pass :
> >
> > and leaving point 7 unchanged from the openlayer's version.
>
> Agreed. Do you mind editing the wiki page yourself?

done.

Yves

>
> Thanks Yves,
>

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Re: MapFish PSC process and bootstrapping

2009-12-04T06:33:21Z

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Julien-Samuel Lacroix
<jlacroix@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yves Moisan wrote:
>>> I clarified item 7. And I didn't know how to better explain items 8
>>> and 9. What's unclear to you?
>>
>> I was expecting to see the original wording with an annotation. So does
>> point 7 means any issue not requiring unanimity can be passed with 2
>> people voting +1, that is 2/5 of the core PSC. Will that stay the same
>> when the PSC grows to 7 or 9 ? Maybe the PSC size would be another
>> point requiring unanimity of the PSC members, unless in that case we'd
>> go back to the community for approval ?
>>
>
> Yes (from what I understand).
>
>
> Is it possible to add a new section on that page once the PSC is
> elected: Current PSC members

Yes, we'll have that page. Thanks,

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Re: MapFish PSC process and bootstrapping

2009-12-04T06:32:32Z

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Yves Moisan <yves.moisan@...> wrote:
>
>>
>> I clarified item 7. And I didn't know how to better explain items 8
>> and 9. What's unclear to you?
>
> I was expecting to see the original wording with an annotation. So does
> point 7 means any issue not requiring unanimity can be passed with 2
> people voting +1, that is 2/5 of the core PSC. Will that stay the same
> when the PSC grows to 7 or 9 ?

Yes, but PSC members are expected to vote, this is part of the
"contract" they sign.

> Maybe the PSC size would be another
> point requiring unanimity of the PSC members, unless in that case we'd
> go back to the community for approval ?

Yes, to me this is related to item 11.

>
> I would put the explanation you added in point 7 in the "Issues
> Requiring Unanimous Approval" section :
>
> Issues Requiring Unanimous Approval
>
> The following list are issues for which all committee members must
> indicate +1 for the proposal to pass :
>
> and leaving point 7 unchanged from the openlayer's version.

Agreed. Do you mind editing the wiki page yourself?

Thanks Yves,

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Re: MapFish PSC process and bootstrapping

2009-12-04T06:02:49Z

Hi,

Yves Moisan wrote:

>> I clarified item 7. And I didn't know how to better explain items 8
>> and 9. What's unclear to you?
>
> I was expecting to see the original wording with an annotation. So does
> point 7 means any issue not requiring unanimity can be passed with 2
> people voting +1, that is 2/5 of the core PSC. Will that stay the same
> when the PSC grows to 7 or 9 ? Maybe the PSC size would be another
> point requiring unanimity of the PSC members, unless in that case we'd
> go back to the community for approval ?
>

Yes (from what I understand).

Is it possible to add a new section on that page once the PSC is
elected: Current PSC members

Otherwise I'm +1 for this.

Julien

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Re: MapFish PSC process and bootstrapping

2009-12-04T05:48:09Z

>
> I clarified item 7. And I didn't know how to better explain items 8
> and 9. What's unclear to you?

I was expecting to see the original wording with an annotation. So does
point 7 means any issue not requiring unanimity can be passed with 2
people voting +1, that is 2/5 of the core PSC. Will that stay the same
when the PSC grows to 7 or 9 ? Maybe the PSC size would be another
point requiring unanimity of the PSC members, unless in that case we'd
go back to the community for approval ?

I would put the explanation you added in point 7 in the "Issues
Requiring Unanimous Approval" section :

Issues Requiring Unanimous Approval

The following list are issues for which all committee members must
indicate +1 for the proposal to pass :

and leaving point 7 unchanged from the openlayer's version.

> > Maybe you could also add that once formed, the PSC will choose a "chair"
> > amongst themselves.
>
> Item 11 in the PSC process says: "selection of a Chair should be
> handled as a proposal to the committee". So I guess the PSC members
> could choose a Chair amongst themselves and bring this a Proposal to
> the @dev mailing list. In this way, the selection of the chair is
> public, giving the rest of the community the opportunity to give
> opinions (even though only votes from the committee members will
> count). I added this to point 3 in the PSC Formation Process section.
>

Missed that, sorry.

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Re: When was Mapfish released?

2009-12-04T05:23:49Z

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Fabio D'Ovidio <fabiodovidio@...> wrote:

Hello,

Pedro Baracho ha scritto:

wow, nice app you got there, Knut.

I am not sure if I made myself clear. I have no problem in styling vector layer. My problem is I have to do it on server side, because I have too much data to handle on the client side. All my tries involving handling vector layers on the client side resulted in out-of-memory crashes or cropping too much data that the whole application would be too 'capped' to be used. So my only option was using WMS to get images and handle data information via GetFeatureInfo.

what about to simplfy your vector layer?

Try to use a simplfied version of your vector and serve it with GeoServer WFS and outputformat=json.
You could use the following PostGIS ST_SimplifyPreserveTopology function [1].

Here are some notes on the following workflow :
OpenStreetMap -> PostGIS -> Simplification ->GeoServer -> GeoJSON

http://www.openhealthconsortium.org/wiki/doku.php?id=layers_from_openstreetmap#for_geojson_layers

Knut

[1] http://postgis.refractions.net/documentation/manual-svn/

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Re: Can I use MapFish server on tables without geometries.

2009-12-04T01:25:27Z

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, LewInMadrid <LCLARK@...> wrote:
>
> I'm successfully using MapFish Server (1.2) to get table data with geometries
> but have a few more non-spatial tables that I would like to push through the
> same HTTP API. Can I use the system on tables without geometries?

You could possibly use the create_attr_filter (from the protocol
module) to create the SQLAlchemy filter for attributes. Being a bit
more specific on what you want to achieve will probably help us help
you.

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could not load wms/ArcIms

2009-12-04T01:25:13Z

Hi,

I want to add a wms/ArcIms layer to my map. But I could not even make a connection, there are no output pictures from ArcIMS.
My code:
new OpenLayers.Layer.ArcIMS("INFOGIS_ArcIMS", "http://myserver/wmsconnector/com.esri.wms.Esrimap",
{ service: "GIS_layer",layers: [{id: "0", visible: true}]}),

new OpenLayers.Layer.WMS("GIS_layer", "http://myserver/wmsconnector/com.esri.wms.Esrimap/GIS_layer?",
{layers: '0', format: "image/png", singleTile: true, transparent: true }, {projection: "EPSG:4326", isBaseLayer: true} )
Both are not working.
What params or options did I miss? What´s wrong?

Thanks.

best regards
Sarah

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Re: When was Mapfish released?

2009-12-04T01:06:36Z

Hello,

Pedro Baracho ha scritto:
> wow, nice app you got there, Knut.
>
> I am not sure if I made myself clear. I have no problem in styling
> vector layer. My problem is I have to do it on server side, because I
> have too much data to handle on the client side. All my tries
> involving handling vector layers on the client side resulted in
> out-of-memory crashes or cropping too much data that the whole
> application would be too 'capped' to be used. So my only option was
> using WMS to get images and handle data information via GetFeatureInfo.
what about to simplfy your vector layer?

Try to use a simplfied version of your vector and serve it with
GeoServer WFS and outputformat=json.
You could use the following PostGIS ST_SimplifyPreserveTopology function
[1].

[1] http://postgis.refractions.net/documentation/manual-svn/

Let me know!

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Re: Can I use MapFish server on tables without geometries.

2009-12-04T00:58:32Z

Of course you can! :)
MapFish is based on the Pylons web framework, so all the features of
Pylons are available in MapFish as well.
Pylons documentation [1] and the Pylons Book [2] are good references
to learn Pylons.

Cheers,
Bruno

[1] http://pylonshq.com/docs/en/0.9.7/
[2] http://pylonsbook.com/

2009/12/3 LewInMadrid <LCLARK@...>:

>
> I'm successfully using MapFish Server (1.2) to get table data with geometries
> but have a few more non-spatial tables that I would like to push through the
> same HTTP API. Can I use the system on tables without geometries?
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Re: MapFish PSC process and bootstrapping

2009-12-04T00:02:39Z

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Yves Moisan <yves.moisan@...> wrote:

>
>> Hi
>>
>> As discussed during today's IRC meeting I described the PSC process
>> and the PSC formation process in a wiki page. See
>> <https://trac.mapfish.org/trac/mapfish/wiki/Community/PSC/Process>. As
>> also discussed during the IRC meeting, an email providing a link to
>> this wiki page, explaining the PSC formation process, and inviting
>> people to start nominating candidates on the Nomination Wiki Page will
>> be sent to the @dev and @users mailing list on monday (the 7th). By
>> that time feel free to comment on the PSC process. And please report
>> back if there are missing bits in the PSC formation process (things
>> discussed on the mailing list and during the IRC meetings).
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
> Thanx Eric,
>
> I don't see the explanations of points 7-9.

I clarified item 7. And I didn't know how to better explain items 8
and 9. What's unclear to you?

> The other thing : "the
> MapFish community, i.e. people on the @dev and @users mailing lists, are
> invited to nominate up to 5 PSC member candidates" should not be there.
> People can nominate any number of people they like *given the name of
> those people is not in the nomination page yet* (of course); this is not
> an election page, it's a nomination page.

Ok, I had missed that part. This is now changed in the wiki page.

>
> I was thinking also that we could add "by decreasing order of
> preference" to "People vote by sending up to 5 names", but I guess we
> don't need weighting as we will just count the number of occurrences
> names are voted for, so the first PSC member is the one that gets
> his/her name mentioned most often.

Yes.

>
> Maybe you could also add that once formed, the PSC will choose a "chair"
> amongst themselves.

Item 11 in the PSC process says: "selection of a Chair should be
handled as a proposal to the committee". So I guess the PSC members
could choose a Chair amongst themselves and bring this a Proposal to
the @dev mailing list. In this way, the selection of the chair is
public, giving the rest of the community the opportunity to give
opinions (even though only votes from the committee members will
count). I added this to point 3 in the PSC Formation Process section.

Thanks,

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Re: When was Mapfish released?

2009-12-03T15:50:53Z

2009/12/3 Knut Staring <knutst@...>

2009/12/1 Cédric Moullet <cedric.moullet@...>
Hi Pedro,

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Pedro Baracho <pedropbaracho@...> wrote:

2.1 - If it doesn't implement OGC services, then how is the integration with cartographic servers? For instance, if I want to search something, I would use Mapfish Protocol so Mapfish server processed the search and returned me ........ vector data?? What about a huge amount of data and some WMS response? Is there any way to tell Mapfish server to send this processed data to some cartographic server and then get a WMS response for example?

We usually use a WMS for data representation.But it is also possible to use vector data on the client side (see for example http://demo.mapfish.org/mapfishsample/1.2/examples/geostat/choropleths.html)

Pedro, in terms of vector thematic mapping, perhaps it could be of some interest for you to also have a look at the extensions to the Geostat example in the DHIS2 project using GeoJSON, though not MapFish server.

Login is admin/district, click on "HIV prevalence July 2007", and then on "Refresh" button: http://97.107.142.53:8080/demo

Source code:
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs-core/dhis2/trunk/files/head%3A/dhis-2/dhis-web/dhis-web-mapping/src/main/webapp/dhis-web-mapping/mapping/script/

Regards,
Knut

wow, nice app you got there, Knut.

I am not sure if I made myself clear. I have no problem in styling vector layer. My problem is I have to do it on server side, because I have too much data to handle on the client side. All my tries involving handling vector layers on the client side resulted in out-of-memory crashes or cropping too much data that the whole application would be too 'capped' to be used. So my only option was using WMS to get images and handle data information via GetFeatureInfo.

What I wanted to try with Mapfish was:

1- Use some of its services, like search and filters to get some specific information on a layer

AND

2- forward the results to some WMS provider, so the client would only handle images in the end.

But that doesn't make much sense right now, since I have no practical examples to apply it. I was just wondering how good would that be :P

And also, thanks for the answers, Bart and Knut.

I really appreciated it.

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install MapFish with pip

2009-12-03T14:28:55Z

Hi

For those interested in pip and distribute I wrote a small wiki page
giving the steps for installing MapFish with pip in a distrubute based
virtual environment. See
<https://trac.mapfish.org/trac/mapfish/wiki/HowToInstallMapFishWithPip>.
FYI, pip is a replacement ffor easy_install, and distribute a
replacement for setuptools.

<http://s3.pixane.com/lenin_packaging.png>

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Re: MapFish PSC process and bootstrapping

2009-12-03T14:08:16Z

> Hi
>
> As discussed during today's IRC meeting I described the PSC process
> and the PSC formation process in a wiki page. See
> <https://trac.mapfish.org/trac/mapfish/wiki/Community/PSC/Process>. As
> also discussed during the IRC meeting, an email providing a link to
> this wiki page, explaining the PSC formation process, and inviting
> people to start nominating candidates on the Nomination Wiki Page will
> be sent to the @dev and @users mailing list on monday (the 7th). By
> that time feel free to comment on the PSC process. And please report
> back if there are missing bits in the PSC formation process (things
> discussed on the mailing list and during the IRC meetings).
>
> Thanks,
>

Thanx Eric,

I don't see the explanations of points 7-9. The other thing : "the
MapFish community, i.e. people on the @dev and @users mailing lists, are
invited to nominate up to 5 PSC member candidates" should not be there.
People can nominate any number of people they like *given the name of
those people is not in the nomination page yet* (of course); this is not
an election page, it's a nomination page.

I was thinking also that we could add "by decreasing order of
preference" to "People vote by sending up to 5 names", but I guess we
don't need weighting as we will just count the number of occurrences
names are voted for, so the first PSC member is the one that gets
his/her name mentioned most often.

Maybe you could also add that once formed, the PSC will choose a "chair"
amongst themselves.

Yves

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MapFish PSC process and bootstrapping

2009-12-03T13:39:00Z

Hi

As discussed during today's IRC meeting I described the PSC process
and the PSC formation process in a wiki page. See
<https://trac.mapfish.org/trac/mapfish/wiki/Community/PSC/Process>. As
also discussed during the IRC meeting, an email providing a link to
this wiki page, explaining the PSC formation process, and inviting
people to start nominating candidates on the Nomination Wiki Page will
be sent to the @dev and @users mailing list on monday (the 7th). By
that time feel free to comment on the PSC process. And please report
back if there are missing bits in the PSC formation process (things
discussed on the mailing list and during the IRC meetings).

Thanks,

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Re: When was Mapfish released?

2009-12-03T12:32:57Z

2009/12/1 Cédric Moullet <cedric.moullet@...>

Hi Pedro,

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Pedro Baracho <pedropbaracho@...> wrote:

2.1 - If it doesn't implement OGC services, then how is the integration with cartographic servers? For instance, if I want to search something, I would use Mapfish Protocol so Mapfish server processed the search and returned me ........ vector data?? What about a huge amount of data and some WMS response? Is there any way to tell Mapfish server to send this processed data to some cartographic server and then get a WMS response for example?

We usually use a WMS for data representation.But it is also possible to use vector data on the client side (see for example http://demo.mapfish.org/mapfishsample/1.2/examples/geostat/choropleths.html)

Pedro, in terms of vector thematic mapping, perhaps it could be of some interest for you to also have a look at the extensions to the Geostat example in the DHIS2 project using GeoJSON, though not MapFish server.

Login is admin/district, click on "HIV prevalence July 2007", and then on "Refresh" button: http://97.107.142.53:8080/demo

Source code:
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs-core/dhis2/trunk/files/head%3A/dhis-2/dhis-web/dhis-web-mapping/src/main/webapp/dhis-web-mapping/mapping/script/

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Can I use MapFish server on tables without geometries.

2009-12-03T10:58:19Z

I'm successfully using MapFish Server (1.2) to get table data with geometries but have a few more non-spatial tables that I would like to push through the same HTTP API. Can I use the system on tables without geometries?

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Changing CSS for nodes in a layertree

2009-12-03T03:32:07Z

I'm struggling to get access to the layertree nodes' CSS: I want to apply
colors and custom, additional icons on the right of some nodes, to let the
user know that such layer is searcheable, and that it is the active
searcheable layer.

Can someone suggest how to override the CSS style of the nodes?
I need to do it both programmatically and via config objects.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Secure TileCache with Pylons and repoze.what

2009-12-02T23:27:40Z

On Thursday, December 3, 2009, Sanjiv Singh <singhsanjivk@...> wrote:
> Hi Eric, Yves,
>
> Firstly, thanks for the tutorial.
>
> I think the whole point of running tilecache under a framework like pylons is
> to make use of services offered by the framework (e.g. authorization).

Exactly.

> So one
> has to accept some performance penalty for added functionality.

Agreed. And when doing authorization it's likely that the per-request
latency is increased not because of the Pylons overhead but because of
repoze.what and the communication with the database.

Obviously all this should be backed by actual performance numbers.

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Re: Why is extJS ajax not working in combobox?

2009-12-02T21:57:13Z

On Wednesday, December 2, 2009, Asle Benoni <asle.benoni@...> wrote:

> Hello,
> This may be a simple extJS question but I will give it a try here. I
> want an ajax dropdown and am using an input field for the ajax search
> element. This seems to work but the response is empty because the
> background page does not recognize the request. Here is my js:
>
> var store = new Ext.data.JsonStore({
>     url: 'ajax/get_data.php',
>     root: 'data', // the root of the array you'll send down
>     idProperty: 'locid',
>     fields: ['locid', 'gardsnavn', 'navn', 'x', 'y', 'bilde']
> });
>
> var freeTextSearch = new Ext.form.ComboBox({
>     store: store,
>     displayField:'navn',
>     typeAhead: true,
>     mode: 'remote',
>     queryParam: 'query', //contents of the field sent to server.
>     hideTrigger: true,    //hide trigger so it doesn't look like a combobox.
>     selectOnFocus:true,
>     width: 175,
>     listWidth: 170
> // renderTo: 'autocomplete' //the id of the html element to render to.
>                               //Not necessary if this is in an Ext formPanel.
> });
>
> The backend "get_data.php" reads the query and produces JSON,
> json_encode($xxx);. If I look in FireBug I can see the request is
> sent:
> query=skog
>
> But the response shows that the backend page does not understand the
> query. If I try to echo "query" it is empty.
> Now if I run the query as a URL it works fine: .../get_data.php?query=skog .
> Then I get correct JSON and correct result. Of course this is GET
> while the ajax is POST. Could this be a problem?

You may want to try method: "get" in the store configuration.

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Re: Secure TileCache with Pylons and repoze.what

2009-12-02T17:04:40Z

Hi Eric, Yves,

Firstly, thanks for the tutorial.

I think the whole point of running tilecache under a framework like pylons is
to make use of services offered by the framework (e.g. authorization). So one
has to accept some performance penalty for added functionality.

However, as we are not using any db or template here, it is still not that bad.
Also, if performance becomes really important, why not pre-seed the tiles.

thanks
Sanjiv

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:01 AM, Eric Lemoine
<eric.lemoine@...> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Eric Lemoine
> <eric.lemoine@...> wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Yves Moisan <yves.moisan@...> wrote:
>>>> done
>>>> <http://www.mapfish.org/doc/tutorials/secure_tilecache.html>
>>>
>>> Thanx for posting this Éric. I'm wondering if "TileCache will run in a
>>> Pylons application" might be a hard selling point in some organizations.
>>> I mean, it's hard enough to steer people away from IIS to Apache ...
>>>
>>> And, there's potentially a performance issue. Here are interesting
>>> benchmarks I came across by accident earlier this week :
>>> http://blog.curiasolutions.com/2009/10/the-great-web-technology-shootout-round-3-better-faster-and-shinier/
>>>
>>> Have a look at the bar charts showing mod_wsgi vs pylons.
>>
>> As I understand it the Pylons app under test runs within mod_wsgi in
>> these tests.
>>
>> "Apache v2.2.3 was used, with mod_wsgi v2.5 for the Python tests and
>> Phusion Passenger v2.2.5 for the Rails test."
>
> but yes, the numbers of the Hello World test tell that Pylons comes
> with a significant overhead. This would suggest that TileCache within
> a Pylons app isn't as good as TileCache directly in mod_wsgi, unless
> the overhead of TileCache is a lot higher than that of Pylons. Actual
> performance tests would be of interest, no doubt.
>
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Re: Secure TileCache with Pylons and repoze.what

2009-12-02T13:31:09Z

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Eric Lemoine
<eric.lemoine@...> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Yves Moisan <yves.moisan@...> wrote:
>>> done
>>> <http://www.mapfish.org/doc/tutorials/secure_tilecache.html>
>>
>> Thanx for posting this Éric. I'm wondering if "TileCache will run in a
>> Pylons application" might be a hard selling point in some organizations.
>> I mean, it's hard enough to steer people away from IIS to Apache ...
>>
>> And, there's potentially a performance issue. Here are interesting
>> benchmarks I came across by accident earlier this week :
>> http://blog.curiasolutions.com/2009/10/the-great-web-technology-shootout-round-3-better-faster-and-shinier/
>>
>> Have a look at the bar charts showing mod_wsgi vs pylons.
>
> As I understand it the Pylons app under test runs within mod_wsgi in
> these tests.
>
> "Apache v2.2.3 was used, with mod_wsgi v2.5 for the Python tests and
> Phusion Passenger v2.2.5 for the Rails test."

but yes, the numbers of the Hello World test tell that Pylons comes
with a significant overhead. This would suggest that TileCache within
a Pylons app isn't as good as TileCache directly in mod_wsgi, unless
the overhead of TileCache is a lot higher than that of Pylons. Actual
performance tests would be of interest, no doubt.

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Re: Secure TileCache with Pylons and repoze.what

2009-12-02T13:19:30Z

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Yves Moisan <yves.moisan@...> wrote:

>> done
>> <http://www.mapfish.org/doc/tutorials/secure_tilecache.html>
>
> Thanx for posting this Éric. I'm wondering if "TileCache will run in a
> Pylons application" might be a hard selling point in some organizations.
> I mean, it's hard enough to steer people away from IIS to Apache ...
>
> And, there's potentially a performance issue. Here are interesting
> benchmarks I came across by accident earlier this week :
> http://blog.curiasolutions.com/2009/10/the-great-web-technology-shootout-round-3-better-faster-and-shinier/
>
> Have a look at the bar charts showing mod_wsgi vs pylons.

As I understand it the Pylons app under test runs within mod_wsgi in
these tests.

"Apache v2.2.3 was used, with mod_wsgi v2.5 for the Python tests and
Phusion Passenger v2.2.5 for the Rails test."

> There are
> tests with various templating languages (that do not show mod_wsgi in
> comparison though) showing the slowing due to templating.
>
> I find TC is a bottleneck -- probably because I can't configure Apache
> and set client-side caching appropriately -- but at any rate even using
> mod_python I find showing tiles is un-understandably slow. Have you
> folks done any benchmarking of TC serving tiles like crazy under the
> Pylons set up ?

No.

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Re: Secure TileCache with Pylons and repoze.what

2009-12-02T12:31:33Z

> done
> <http://www.mapfish.org/doc/tutorials/secure_tilecache.html>

Thanx for posting this Éric. I'm wondering if "TileCache will run in a
Pylons application" might be a hard selling point in some organizations.
I mean, it's hard enough to steer people away from IIS to Apache ...

And, there's potentially a performance issue. Here are interesting
benchmarks I came across by accident earlier this week :
http://blog.curiasolutions.com/2009/10/the-great-web-technology-shootout-round-3-better-faster-and-shinier/

Have a look at the bar charts showing mod_wsgi vs pylons. There are
tests with various templating languages (that do not show mod_wsgi in
comparison though) showing the slowing due to templating.

I find TC is a bottleneck -- probably because I can't configure Apache
and set client-side caching appropriately -- but at any rate even using
mod_python I find showing tiles is un-understandably slow. Have you
folks done any benchmarking of TC serving tiles like crazy under the
Pylons set up ?

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Re: Secure TileCache with Pylons and repoze.what

2009-12-02T11:42:56Z

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Eric Lemoine
<eric.lemoine@...> wrote:
> Yes, that was the plane, and it's done that way in my sandbox
> <http://dev.mapfish.org/sandbox/elemoine/secure-tilecache-tutorial/doc/tutorials/>.
> I'll add it if I don't get any push back in the coming days.

done
<http://www.mapfish.org/doc/tutorials/secure_tilecache.html>

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Re: When was Mapfish released?

2009-12-02T09:36:48Z

Some additional information below.

2009/12/1 Cédric Moullet <cedric.moullet@...>:
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Pedro Baracho <pedropbaracho@...>

>> 2- I understand that Mapfish server provides some webservices available
>> through the Mapfish protocol. I also noticed it works with vector data, but
>> doesn't implement OGC services like WMS and WFS, is that right?
>
> GeoJSON is used for data exchange between MapFish Server and MapFish Client
> (see http://www.mapfish.org/trac/mapfish/wiki/MapFishProtocol). But, you can
> of course also use WMS and WFS through OpenLayers.

Yes, MapFish has its own protocol for searching and editing features.
The HTTP interfaces are described here
<http://www.mapfish.org/trac/mapfish/wiki/MapFishProtocol>.

>> 2.1 - If it doesn't implement OGC services, then how is the integration
>> with cartographic servers? For instance, if I want to search something, I
>> would use Mapfish Protocol so Mapfish server processed the search and
>> returned me ........ vector data?? What about a huge amount of data and some
>> WMS response? Is there any way to tell Mapfish server to send this processed
>> data to some cartographic server and then get a WMS response for example?
>
> We usually use a WMS for data representation.But it is also possible to use
> vector data on the client side (see for example
> http://demo.mapfish.org/mapfishsample/1.2/examples/geostat/choropleths.html)

You can possibly use MapFish web services for search, editing and
displaying vectors on the map, and the cartographic server of your
choice for WMS. For WMS, the client application talks directly to the
cartographic server, no MapFish web services are involved.

>> 3- I understand that Mapfish doesn't do data stylization, because that
>> happens on MapServer mapfile.

You can also get vector data from MapFish web services and style them
using OpenLayers' Feature Styling Framework.

<http://trac.openlayers.org/wiki/Styles>
<http://docs.openlayers.org/library/feature_styling.html>

>> I know data stylization can be done via
>> sld_body on a wms request though, and still be OGC-compliant. Does Mapfish
>> provide any support to SLD-editing? Like GeoServer's Styler for example?
>
> Any cartographic server can be used with MapFish. There is currently some
> work in GeoExt for supporting the SLD editing
> (http://blog.geoserver.org/2008/12/23/geoext-based-sld-editor/). GeoExt is
> part of MapFish so it shouldn't be a huge issue to use it.

Yes, actually the GeoServer Styler is composed of various modules,
which are currently being moved in GeoExt. Ultimately the GeoServer
Styler will be a coherent assembly of GeoExt components.

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Re: IRC Meeting Thursday 12/3

2009-12-02T07:27:33Z

2009/11/30 Yves Moisan <yves.moisan@...>:
>
>> Hi,
>> After the mail discussion regarding the PSC constitution process, I
>> propose to make the next IRC meeting on thursday 12/3 at 3PM UTC:
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=12&day=3&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=87&p2=179&p3=224
>> Cédric
>
> Ok for me.

Ok for me too.

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Re: Typo error in MapFish doc

2009-12-02T04:53:19Z

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Yves Jacolin <yjacolin@...> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Here are three typo errors in the mapfish doc, for the two first, both
> are in http://mapfish.org/doc/1.2/framework.html page
>
> 1. "Routes docs" in a Hint section: broken link
>
> 2. section : Scenario #1
>
> the doc says "Let's assume you want that only *managers* are ..."
> The code show:
> value="employee"
>
> Is it normal?
>
> 3. url: http://www.mapfish.org/doc/contribs/mapfishapi.html
>
> "ovveride" -> "override"

<http://trac.mapfish.org/trac/mapfish/changeset/3266>

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Re: add dynamic WMS to MapFish modeled Tree

2009-12-02T04:33:04Z

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:41 PM, <Steve.Toutant@...> wrote:
>
> I already read a thread where the difference between the mapfish layertree and geoext layertree are shown. But I can not find it yet.
> I remember those functionalities were not included in geoext
> - Opacity slide

This will be supported once the patch attached to [*] is in.

> - Contextual menu plugin

Not supported.

> - Drag and drop of nodes

Supported.

> - click event on a node (not sure about this one)

This probably is supported by Ext.

[*] <http://trac.geoext.org/ticket/139>

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Why is extJS ajax not working in combobox?

2009-12-02T00:10:38Z

Hello,
This may be a simple extJS question but I will give it a try here. I
want an ajax dropdown and am using an input field for the ajax search
element. This seems to work but the response is empty because the
background page does not recognize the request. Here is my js:

var store = new Ext.data.JsonStore({
    url: 'ajax/get_data.php',
    root: 'data', // the root of the array you'll send down
    idProperty: 'locid',
    fields: ['locid', 'gardsnavn', 'navn', 'x', 'y', 'bilde']
});

var freeTextSearch = new Ext.form.ComboBox({
    store: store,
    displayField:'navn',
    typeAhead: true,
    mode: 'remote',
    queryParam: 'query', //contents of the field sent to server.
    hideTrigger: true,    //hide trigger so it doesn't look like a combobox.
    selectOnFocus:true,
    width: 175,
    listWidth: 170
// renderTo: 'autocomplete' //the id of the html element to render to.
                              //Not necessary if this is in an Ext formPanel.
});

The backend "get_data.php" reads the query and produces JSON,
json_encode($xxx);. If I look in FireBug I can see the request is
sent:
query=skog

But the response shows that the backend page does not understand the
query. If I try to echo "query" it is empty.
Now if I run the query as a URL it works fine: .../get_data.php?query=skog .
Then I get correct JSON and correct result. Of course this is GET
while the ajax is POST. Could this be a problem?

What I wonder is if I am using the wrong code to accomplish the ajax search.
I am glad for any help!
ps. I have jQuery ajax working just fine on this server.

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Re: print service: border around page

2009-12-01T23:16:16Z

Bart van den Eijnden schrieb:
> Hi list,
>
> is there a way to create a border around the whole page, without the use of a backgroundPDF?
>

Recently I also needed a border on a map to visually group objects. I
played around with the !columns

- !columns
absoluteX: 20
absoluteY: 580
width: 800
config:
borderWidth: 1
items:
- !text
text: ' '
font: Helvetica
fontSize: 80

It works but isn't nice. If there is an other solution I'm also
interested in.

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Re: When was Mapfish released?

2009-12-01T14:37:00Z

Hi Pedro,

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Pedro Baracho <pedropbaracho@...> wrote:

Hey list,

I don't know if I am excited or disappointed of finding out about Mapfish. :P

I started working with GIS development about June of this year and I am responsible for developing a solution for a vector data viewer. As I didn't know anything about GIS, I started searching a lot and eventually found out OpenLayers. I also knew about ExtJS. I didn't find anything about Mapfish at that time though, and if I had it would have saved me a lot of work, especifically 4 months :P

Right now I am finishing this OGC-compliant viewer using ExtJS+OpenLayers with some nice features like thematic map creation and alphanumerical and geographical search.

Do you have an URL, this sounds very interesting ;-) ?

The thing is: I feel greatly inclined to try Mapfish out, but I don't have much time left. That is also the reason why I am using the mailing list, I could really use some experienced user opinion over these questions.

So now to the questions:

1- When was Mapfish released?

Last release 1.2 was done in October 2009.

2- I understand that Mapfish server provides some webservices available through the Mapfish protocol. I also noticed it works with vector data, but doesn't implement OGC services like WMS and WFS, is that right?

GeoJSON is used for data exchange between MapFish Server and MapFish Client (see http://www.mapfish.org/trac/mapfish/wiki/MapFishProtocol). But, you can of course also use WMS and WFS through OpenLayers.

2.1 - If it doesn't implement OGC services, then how is the integration with cartographic servers? For instance, if I want to search something, I would use Mapfish Protocol so Mapfish server processed the search and returned me ........ vector data?? What about a huge amount of data and some WMS response? Is there any way to tell Mapfish server to send this processed data to some cartographic server and then get a WMS response for example?

We usually use a WMS for data representation.But it is also possible to use vector data on the client side (see for example http://demo.mapfish.org/mapfishsample/1.2/examples/geostat/choropleths.html)

3- I understand that Mapfish doesn't do data stylization, because that happens on MapServer mapfile. I know data stylization can be done via sld_body on a wms request though, and still be OGC-compliant. Does Mapfish provide any support to SLD-editing? Like GeoServer's Styler for example?

Any cartographic server can be used with MapFish. There is currently some work in GeoExt for supporting the SLD editing (http://blog.geoserver.org/2008/12/23/geoext-based-sld-editor/). GeoExt is part of MapFish so it shouldn't be a huge issue to use it.

4- Is it humanly possible to build a viewer using Mapfish framework that has thematic map creation and data search functions in one month?? I have good knowledge of OpenLayers, ExtJS and OGC's standards. :P

This sounds possible to me.

Thanks for any help and also, please, correct me if I am wrong in any of my assumptions. I only read the 8-hours introduction to Mapfish, so I don't know anything about it.

Cheers,
Pedro.

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