Maybe I'm dense...

[winkerbean]

but I cannot find anything to tell me whether I can use SpamAssassin in my situation.  I download my messages from my ISP.  I don't have my own server or anything like such.  Can I use SpamAssassin to filter/score my incoming e-mail or does it need to be installed on my ISP's server to work?

Thanks for any help.

[Bob McClure Jr-2]

On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 10:44:27AM -0700, winkerbean wrote:
>
> but I cannot find anything to tell me whether I can use SpamAssassin in my
> situation.  I download my messages from my ISP.  I don't have my own server
> or anything like such.  Can I use SpamAssassin to filter/score my incoming
> e-mail or does it need to be installed on my ISP's server to work?

You can do it locally.  Just install SA, and call spamassassin (or
spamc if you choose to run spamd) from your .procmailrc.  The SA
distribution has a sample set of procmail recipes.

Back when I had an earthlink account, I picked up my mail with
fetchmail, which used procmail to put it in my mailbox.  I punted
anything that scored 9 or more, put the rest of the spam in a
"caughtspam" box for review, and the rest went to my mailbox.

> Thanks for any help.
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[Jean-Paul Natola]

-----Original Message-----
From: winkerbean [mailto:martinezfive@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:44 PM
To: users@...
Subject: Maybe I'm dense...


but I cannot find anything to tell me whether I can use SpamAssassin in my
situation.  I download my messages from my ISP.  I don't have my own server
or anything like such.  Can I use SpamAssassin to filter/score my incoming
e-mail or does it need to be installed on my ISP's server to work?

Thanks for any help.
--

What OS do you run? What do you download them with?

Info info  we need more info

[jdow]

Fetchmail, procmail, dovecot are the three other things I use for
that sort of situation.

Fetchmail pulls in the mail from the ISP. It feeds off directly to
procmail. Procmail feeds the mail through SpamAssassin for markup.
Then procmail feeds it off to the standard /var/spool/mail/XXX
mailboxes. Dovecot provides pop(s) and imap(s) ports through which I
fetch the mail.

So, yes, you can use spamassassin.

{^_^}
----- Original Message -----
From: "winkerbean" <martinezfive@...>

>
> but I cannot find anything to tell me whether I can use SpamAssassin in my
> situation.  I download my messages from my ISP.  I don't have my own
> server
> or anything like such.  Can I use SpamAssassin to filter/score my incoming
> e-mail or does it need to be installed on my ISP's server to work?
>
> Thanks for any help.
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/Maybe-I%27m-dense...-tf4393677.html#a12527794
> Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[jdow]

The one thing he does NOT want to do is what seems to be most common
with Fedora Core - use it for filtering each email as you fetch it
using evolution. You find yourself with long delays in an interactive
situation. Turn off any SpamAssassin access in evolution and tell it
to fetch from a pop3 or imap port on your local machine. Use the
fetchmail, procmail, dovecot sort of solution.


                  ->SA-|
                  |    \/
  fetchmail-----> procmail----> mailbox -----> dovecot

{^_^}
----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Thursday, 2007, September 06 10:55
Subject: Re: Maybe I'm dense...

>I don't know.
>
> Can you?
>
> Are you able to install SpamAssassin on whatever machine you use, and
> somehow feed SpamAssassin the messages?
>
> If so, sure.
>
> Your question is extremely vague and you provide absolutely no information
> on your system. Windows? Dos? Linux? Macintosh?
>
> And, again, SpamAssassin won't FILTER (ie Move messages above a score of 5
> to a SPAM folder). It will only SCORE. What you do with it beyond that is
> up to you
>
> *Sigh*.
>
> Nabble is becoming the Google Groups of.. Groups..
>
> At 10:44 AM 9/6/2007, winkerbean wrote:
>
>>but I cannot find anything to tell me whether I can use SpamAssassin in my
>>situation.  I download my messages from my ISP.  I don't have my own
>>server
>>or anything like such.  Can I use SpamAssassin to filter/score my incoming
>>e-mail or does it need to be installed on my ISP's server to work?
>>
>>Thanks for any help.
>>--
>>View this message in context:
>>http://www.nabble.com/Maybe-I%27m-dense...-tf4393677.html#a12527794
>>Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Jari Fredriksson]

> The one thing he does NOT want to do is what seems to be
> most common with Fedora Core - use it for filtering each
> email as you fetch it using evolution. You find yourself
> with long delays in an interactive situation. Turn off
> any SpamAssassin access in evolution and tell it to fetch
> from a pop3 or imap port on your local machine. Use the
> fetchmail, procmail, dovecot sort of solution.
>
>
>                  ->SA-|
>                  |    \/
>  fetchmail-----> procmail----> mailbox -----> dovecot
>

Or fetchmail, maildrop, Courier IMAP sort of solution.

If find maildrop much less cryptic to use and configure that procmail. Courier IMAP I just use, dunno how it differs from Dovecot. I use Maildir based configuration, that Courier handles  well, but I guess dovecot too.

[Jari Fredriksson]

> The one thing he does NOT want to do is what seems to be
> most common with Fedora Core - use it for filtering each
> email as you fetch it using evolution. You find yourself
> with long delays in an interactive situation. Turn off
> any SpamAssassin access in evolution and tell it to fetch
> from a pop3 or imap port on your local machine. Use the
> fetchmail, procmail, dovecot sort of solution.
>
>
>                  ->SA-|
>                  |    \/
>  fetchmail-----> procmail----> mailbox -----> dovecot
>

Or fetchmail, maildrop, Courier IMAP sort of solution.

If find maildrop much less cryptic to use and configure that procmail. Courier IMAP I just use, dunno how it differs from Dovecot. I use Maildir based configuration, that Courier handles  well, but I guess dovecot too.

[mouss-2]

Jari Fredriksson wrote:

>> The one thing he does NOT want to do is what seems to be
>> most common with Fedora Core - use it for filtering each
>> email as you fetch it using evolution. You find yourself
>> with long delays in an interactive situation. Turn off
>> any SpamAssassin access in evolution and tell it to fetch
>> from a pop3 or imap port on your local machine. Use the
>> fetchmail, procmail, dovecot sort of solution.
>>
>>
>>                  ->SA-|
>>                  |    \/
>>  fetchmail-----> procmail----> mailbox -----> dovecot
>>
>>    
>
> Or fetchmail, maildrop, Courier IMAP sort of solution.
>  

more generally:

    (fetchmail|getmail|...) -> (MTA|MDA) -> SA -> (MTA|MDA) -> mailbox
> If find maildrop much less cryptic to use and configure that procmail.

true. but some linux users seem to have packaging|build problems...
(example 1: maildrop built with authlib, but authlib not configured or
authdaemon not running. example 2: maildrop built without authlib, but
relies on authlib. example 3: messing with permissions/setuid... )
>  Courier IMAP I just use, dunno how it differs from Dovecot. I use Maildir based configuration, that Courier handles  well, but I guess dovecot too.
>  

sure. and you can use maildrop with dovecot of course. (I use both
courier and dovecot, but will certainly move everything to dovecot).

[Kai Schaetzl]

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/StartUsing

Kai

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