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Mirror for PIPS food ontology?

by Michael Haas-5 :: Rate this Message:

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Hello everyone,


I hope it is not inappropriate to ask this question here.

Does anyone have a copy of the PIPS food ontology?

The original link at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~jcantais/PIPSFood.owl is
dead.


Regards,


Michael



Re: Mirror for PIPS food ontology?

by Alexander Garcia Castro :: Rate this Message:

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You can find them at:
http://babel.informatik.uni-bremen.de/ontologies
this is our Onto repository, built upon BioPortal technology. cheers.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael Haas <laga@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,


I hope it is not inappropriate to ask this question here.

Does anyone have a copy of the PIPS food ontology?

The original link at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~jcantais/PIPSFood.owl is dead.


Regards,


Michael





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http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
Postal address:
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Universität Bremen
Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
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Re: Mirror for PIPS food ontology?

by Giovanni Tummarello :: Rate this Message:

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Kind of make me thing.. we could put it virtually back in the same
place as originally on our Sindice cache [1]

i wonder if the operation make sense.. on the one hand a chace is
usually intended for reflecting "reality" on the other i'd see obvious
practical advantages.

Maybe we could offer an "archive" service, parallel to the cache?

just trying to figure out what can help developers, ideas?

Giovanni

[1] http://sindice.com/developers/cacheapi

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Alexander Garcia Castro
<alexgarciac@...> wrote:

> You can find them at:
> http://babel.informatik.uni-bremen.de/ontologies
> this is our Onto repository, built upon BioPortal technology. cheers.
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael Haas <laga@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>> I hope it is not inappropriate to ask this question here.
>>
>> Does anyone have a copy of the PIPS food ontology?
>>
>> The original link at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~jcantais/PIPSFood.owl is
>> dead.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Alexander Garcia
> http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
> http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
> Postal address:
> Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
> Universität Bremen
> Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
> D-28359 Bremen
>


Re: Mirror for PIPS food ontology?

by Alan Ruttenberg-2 :: Rate this Message:

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What would be nice would be to have a wayback machine for ontologies.
So I could go and get a particular version. Extra points if the
imported ontologies were captured at the same time and pointers
adjusted so that one could easily use an ontology as it was at a
specific point in time.

-Alan


On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Giovanni Tummarello
<g.tummarello@...> wrote:

> Kind of make me thing.. we could put it virtually back in the same
> place as originally on our Sindice cache [1]
>
> i wonder if the operation make sense.. on the one hand a chace is
> usually intended for reflecting "reality" on the other i'd see obvious
> practical advantages.
>
> Maybe we could offer an "archive" service, parallel to the cache?
>
> just trying to figure out what can help developers, ideas?
>
> Giovanni
>
> [1] http://sindice.com/developers/cacheapi
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Alexander Garcia Castro
> <alexgarciac@...> wrote:
>> You can find them at:
>> http://babel.informatik.uni-bremen.de/ontologies
>> this is our Onto repository, built upon BioPortal technology. cheers.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael Haas <laga@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope it is not inappropriate to ask this question here.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a copy of the PIPS food ontology?
>>>
>>> The original link at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~jcantais/PIPSFood.owl is
>>> dead.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alexander Garcia
>> http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
>> http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
>> Postal address:
>> Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
>> Universität Bremen
>> Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
>> D-28359 Bremen
>>
>
>


Re: Mirror for PIPS food ontology?

by Alexander Garcia Castro :: Rate this Message:

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wayback similar to the time machine available in Mac would be great. as for imports, imports are just one type of mappings; the situation will be more complex as soon as people start to map across ontology repositories; Bioportal does not support mappings across ontologies sitting on diferent bioportal servers. capturing, or making it compulsory for people to porviede all the imported ontologies when submitting ontologies to a repository is something we will work out early next year.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@...> wrote:
What would be nice would be to have a wayback machine for ontologies.
So I could go and get a particular version. Extra points if the
imported ontologies were captured at the same time and pointers
adjusted so that one could easily use an ontology as it was at a
specific point in time.

-Alan


On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Giovanni Tummarello
<g.tummarello@...> wrote:
> Kind of make me thing.. we could put it virtually back in the same
> place as originally on our Sindice cache [1]
>
> i wonder if the operation make sense.. on the one hand a chace is
> usually intended for reflecting "reality" on the other i'd see obvious
> practical advantages.
>
> Maybe we could offer an "archive" service, parallel to the cache?
>
> just trying to figure out what can help developers, ideas?
>
> Giovanni
>
> [1] http://sindice.com/developers/cacheapi
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Alexander Garcia Castro
> <alexgarciac@...> wrote:
>> You can find them at:
>> http://babel.informatik.uni-bremen.de/ontologies
>> this is our Onto repository, built upon BioPortal technology. cheers.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael Haas <laga@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope it is not inappropriate to ask this question here.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a copy of the PIPS food ontology?
>>>
>>> The original link at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~jcantais/PIPSFood.owl is
>>> dead.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alexander Garcia
>> http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
>> http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
>> Postal address:
>> Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
>> Universität Bremen
>> Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
>> D-28359 Bremen
>>
>
>



--
Alexander Garcia
http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
Postal address:
Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
Universität Bremen
Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
D-28359 Bremen

Re: Mirror for PIPS food ontology?

by Alan Ruttenberg-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Alexander Garcia Castro
<alexgarciac@...> wrote:
> wayback similar to the time machine available in Mac would be great. as for
> imports, imports are just one type of mappings;

An import isn't a mapping and more than a type declaration is a mapping.

> the situation will be more
> complex as soon as people start to map across ontology repositories;
> Bioportal does not support mappings across ontologies sitting on diferent
> bioportal servers.

I don't understand this. Ontologies are given URIs for terms. The
identity of an ontology term should be independent of where it's kept,
whether bioportal or its usual location on the web.

> capturing, or making it compulsory for people to porviede
> all the imported ontologies when submitting ontologies to a repository is
> something we will work out early next year.



>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> What would be nice would be to have a wayback machine for ontologies.
>> So I could go and get a particular version. Extra points if the
>> imported ontologies were captured at the same time and pointers
>> adjusted so that one could easily use an ontology as it was at a
>> specific point in time.
>>
>> -Alan
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Giovanni Tummarello
>> <g.tummarello@...> wrote:
>> > Kind of make me thing.. we could put it virtually back in the same
>> > place as originally on our Sindice cache [1]
>> >
>> > i wonder if the operation make sense.. on the one hand a chace is
>> > usually intended for reflecting "reality" on the other i'd see obvious
>> > practical advantages.
>> >
>> > Maybe we could offer an "archive" service, parallel to the cache?
>> >
>> > just trying to figure out what can help developers, ideas?
>> >
>> > Giovanni
>> >
>> > [1] http://sindice.com/developers/cacheapi
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Alexander Garcia Castro
>> > <alexgarciac@...> wrote:
>> >> You can find them at:
>> >> http://babel.informatik.uni-bremen.de/ontologies
>> >> this is our Onto repository, built upon BioPortal technology. cheers.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael Haas <laga@...> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I hope it is not inappropriate to ask this question here.
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anyone have a copy of the PIPS food ontology?
>> >>>
>> >>> The original link at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~jcantais/PIPSFood.owl
>> >>> is
>> >>> dead.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Michael
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Alexander Garcia
>> >> http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
>> >> http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
>> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
>> >> Postal address:
>> >> Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
>> >> Universität Bremen
>> >> Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
>> >> D-28359 Bremen
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
>
>
> --
> Alexander Garcia
> http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
> http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
> Postal address:
> Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
> Universität Bremen
> Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
> D-28359 Bremen
>


Re: Mirror for PIPS food ontology?

by Alan Ruttenberg-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Alan Ruttenberg
<alanruttenberg@...> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Alexander Garcia Castro
> <alexgarciac@...> wrote:
>> wayback similar to the time machine available in Mac would be great. as for
>> imports, imports are just one type of mappings;
>
> An import isn't a mapping and more than a type declaration is a mapping.

s/and/any/

>
>> the situation will be more
>> complex as soon as people start to map across ontology repositories;
>> Bioportal does not support mappings across ontologies sitting on diferent
>> bioportal servers.
>
> I don't understand this. Ontologies are given URIs for terms. The
> identity of an ontology term should be independent of where it's kept,
> whether bioportal or its usual location on the web.
>
>> capturing, or making it compulsory for people to porviede
>> all the imported ontologies when submitting ontologies to a repository is
>> something we will work out early next year.
>
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What would be nice would be to have a wayback machine for ontologies.
>>> So I could go and get a particular version. Extra points if the
>>> imported ontologies were captured at the same time and pointers
>>> adjusted so that one could easily use an ontology as it was at a
>>> specific point in time.
>>>
>>> -Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Giovanni Tummarello
>>> <g.tummarello@...> wrote:
>>> > Kind of make me thing.. we could put it virtually back in the same
>>> > place as originally on our Sindice cache [1]
>>> >
>>> > i wonder if the operation make sense.. on the one hand a chace is
>>> > usually intended for reflecting "reality" on the other i'd see obvious
>>> > practical advantages.
>>> >
>>> > Maybe we could offer an "archive" service, parallel to the cache?
>>> >
>>> > just trying to figure out what can help developers, ideas?
>>> >
>>> > Giovanni
>>> >
>>> > [1] http://sindice.com/developers/cacheapi
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Alexander Garcia Castro
>>> > <alexgarciac@...> wrote:
>>> >> You can find them at:
>>> >> http://babel.informatik.uni-bremen.de/ontologies
>>> >> this is our Onto repository, built upon BioPortal technology. cheers.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael Haas <laga@...> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hello everyone,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I hope it is not inappropriate to ask this question here.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Does anyone have a copy of the PIPS food ontology?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The original link at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~jcantais/PIPSFood.owl
>>> >>> is
>>> >>> dead.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Regards,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Michael
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Alexander Garcia
>>> >> http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
>>> >> http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
>>> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
>>> >> Postal address:
>>> >> Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
>>> >> Universität Bremen
>>> >> Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
>>> >> D-28359 Bremen
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alexander Garcia
>> http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
>> http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
>> Postal address:
>> Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
>> Universität Bremen
>> Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
>> D-28359 Bremen
>>
>