Missing Double Bass - 043_Contrabass.pat

Hi,

this is Piotr from Poland (Warsaw) - nice to meet you :)

I have Ubuntu 8.04 with Timidity++ installed by command "sudo apt-get install timidity".
It works fine, using FreePats, but I need to use Contrabass (Double bass) which is missing,
as I read in http://freepats.opensrc.org/freepats/README


" [...] MISSING PATCHES [...] Tone Bank 000: [...] 043_Contrabass.pat"...

I'm trying to add double bass to my instruments samples but with no success...
After some hours of Googling and many tests I understood something but not everything:

1). I understood that I have to make changes in my "/etc/timidity/timidity.cfg"
Probably I have to hash this line: source /etc/timidity/freepats.cfg
And add another line to use "sf2" or "imis" - but have no idea how to do it :(

2). I found the place where my instruments are kept - /usr/share/midi/freepats/Tone_000/
... but unfortunately "043_Contrabass.pat" is missing ...
Is there a possibility to get a working ready Contrabass.pat from someone of You? :)
This would be the simpliest solution for me, but after reading a lot in Your web site,
I can't understand how to "produce" this file myself... so I ask this file from You :)

3). How could I use "sf2" http://freepats.opensrc.org/sf2/
I'm trying to guess that file http://freepats.opensrc.org/sf2/acbass.sf2 could be maybe
"acoustic bass - sf2" - but I have no success trying to use it...
I tried hashing "source /etc/timidity/freepats.cfg" in my timidity.cfg and I added this line:
"soundfont /etc/timidity/acbass.sf2 order=0", after downloading "acbass.sf2" to /etc/timidity/,
but it didn't work either...

4). How could I use "imis"? http://freepats.opensrc.org/samples/imis/
>From what I see there's a subfolder called "DoubleBass" :) :) :)
Where do I have to place the main directory with their subdirectories and "*.flac" files?
How to modify the fimidity.conf file and what other I need to do?

Generally, for me the best solution would be to leave FreePats and add the 043_Contrabass.pat
which is missing, but I'm ready to use also "sf2" or "imis" - with Your valuable help :) :) :)

Thank You in advance.

BestRegards~~Piotrek~~pe3no.

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Stéphane Rollandin writes:
> 43    %font /etc/timidity/acbass.sf2    0    1
>
> the first number is the patch index, the last numbers are the bank and
> patch index within the sf2 file


Hi, Stéphane

and thank You very much for Your prompt answer :)
Unfortunately, I still can't play midi using Double Bass {43}...
What else do I have to do or what do I have to correct and how?
Are You able to use Double Bass on Your PC? If so, could You, please,
copy / paste
Your timidity.cfg, freepats.cfg and tell me what are the other important
settings/parameters?

Thanks once again.
BestRegards~~Piotrek~~pe3no.


*********************************************************
"TEST 01" - still unable to play Double Bass {43} midi files
*********************************************************

1.1. I placed sound font file in "/etc/timidity/acbass.sf2"

1.2. I changed my "/etc/timidity/timidity.cfg" - it has two uncommented
lines now.
    source /etc/timidity/freepats.cfg
    soundfont /etc/timidity/acbass.sf2 order=0

1.3. I changed my "/etc/timidity/freepats.cfg" - I added line 43,
following Your advice:
[...]
 42    Tone_000/042_Cello.pat
 43    %font /etc/timidity/acbass.sf2    0    1
 44    Tone_000/044_Tremolo_Strings.pat
[...]

1.4. I restarted Timidity++
$ sudo /etc/init.d/timidity restart
 * Stopping TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation...                            
[ OK ]
 * Starting timidity
 * Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation...                            
[ OK ]

1.5. I still can't to play a midi containing Double Bass {43}
$ timidity test43.mid
Requested buffer size 32768, fragment size 8192
ALSA pcm 'default' set buffer size 33868, period size 3760 bytes
Playing test43.mid
MIDI file: test43.mid
Format: 1  Tracks: 2  Divisions: 384
Text: Music generated by "NoteEdit"
Text:
Couldn't load instrument /etc/timidity/acbass.sf2 (tone bank 0, program 43)
No pre-resampling cache hit [...]

1.6. I tried suggestions from Your first e-mail, but I received the same
error...
"43    %font /etc/timidity/acbass.sf2    0    43"
"Couldn't load instrument /etc/timidity/acbass.sf2 (tone bank 0, program 43)
No pre-resampling cache hit"

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Stéphane Rollandin writes:

> in the error message it seems that timidity is looking at 0,43 here,
> while you wrote 0 1 in your /etc/timidity/freepats.cfg. the error
> should then be
> "Couldn't load instrument /etc/timidity/acbass.sf2 (tone bank 0,
> program 1)"
>
> so maybe try again and make sure it is actually looking at the right
> place
>
> regards,
>
> Stef
>
> (I do not have a double bass patch either, sorry)

Hello again, Stéphane

And again thank You very much for Your valuable help :)
I decided to reinstall my Ubuntu (maybe I install a newer version),
so I'd like to do a really good job with my Timidity++

I listened to imis samples and they're really beautiful :) :) :)
I'd really love to use them for my Double Bass midi.

Could You, please, explain me how to do it? I'd be very grateful.
What shoul I place in my config files and where to place the directories
with Double Bass flac files?

Thank You very much in advance.
BestRegards~~Piotrek~~pe3no.

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[Joost Yervante Damad-3]

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On Friday 09 January 2009 15:19:37 pe3no wrote:

> Hi,
>
> this is Piotr from Poland (Warsaw) - nice to meet you :)
>
> I have Ubuntu 8.04 with Timidity++ installed by command "sudo apt-get
> install timidity". It works fine, using FreePats, but I need to use
> Contrabass (Double bass) which is missing, as I read in
> http://freepats.opensrc.org/freepats/README
>
>
> " [...] MISSING PATCHES [...] Tone Bank 000: [...] 043_Contrabass.pat"...
>
> I'm trying to add double bass to my instruments samples but with no
> success... After some hours of Googling and many tests I understood
> something but not everything:

You can also use timidity++ with the more complete fluid-soundfont-gm. You can
also install it with "sudo apt-get install fluid-soundfont-gm".

After this you will have to
gunzip /usr/share/doc/fluid-soundfont-gm/fluidr3_gm.cfg.gz somewhere and then
include this config file in the timidity.cfg file.

Joost

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