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MooTools $events expando workaround

by Rey Bango-2 :: Rate this Message:

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There was a recent flurry of emails on the list discussing a conflict
with the use of MooTools in conjunction with jQuery. When MooTools
released v1.1, they renamed their events expando to $events, thus
conflicting instantly with jQuery.

Well, Brazilian developer Alexandre Magno
(http://blog.alexandremagno.net/) came up with a novel and quite simple
solution to get around this issue; rename the $event expando in Mootools!

"I found a solution that works perfectly. Im the live example that we
need sometimes to use the both frameworks. Im develop all my projects in
jQuery, cause I learn more easily and feel more comfotable with it.
Nothing to do with Mootools, with is a beatiful framework too... But I
need the fancy upload to work and is just possible with Mootools, I make
everything, but doesnt work because the conflict with the variable
$event. I solve this issue by getting the mootools download with no
compression, use a software like aptana, dreamweaver, or even notepad to
replace all ocurrences of $event to $event2 for example, and compress
the libraty after it. This way, the two frameworks works perfectly,
since the use of jquery with noConflit its configured. I hope this works
and soon I will develop this fancy upload for jquery to dont have to use
both. Its a shame for the mootools team wait to Jquery solve this
problem that noboby its blame... its just convention... why just simple
replace $event for $mootoolsEvent or $mooEvent for example??? Somethimes
its necessary use both, no doubt..""

This was posted in the MooTools forum in response to a post where John &
   I were trying to resolve an integration problem for a MooTools user
who wanted to use MooTools and jQuery together. We realize that its
unrealistic to expect that developers are going to use just one library
and the team goes to great lengths to ensure some level of
interoperability between other libraries via noConflict(). In jQuery
v1.2, we take that a step further by allowing the renaming of the events
expando to whatever you would like, thus avoiding any conflict.

While this was not a bug in jQuery, we feel strongly about allowing
developers to leverage the tools that they need to do their work and we
never want jQuery to be a bottleneck.

Thank you John & the jQuery team for continuing to make jQuery such a
flexible solution and thank you Alexandre for expanding jQuery's reach
to Brazil and offering up this great workaround.

Rey...

Re: MooTools $events expando workaround

by Alexandre Magno-2 :: Rate this Message:

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thanks ray for the oportunity and I would like to say that the jQuery
in Brazil is well represented.

Im glad to help the jQuery team with this issue and I hope help even
more.

Congratulations for you and all jQuery team.

On 30 ago, 18:05, Rey Bango <r...@...> wrote:

> There was a recent flurry of emails on the list discussing a conflict
> with the use of MooTools in conjunction with jQuery. When MooTools
> released v1.1, they renamed their events expando to $events, thus
> conflicting instantly with jQuery.
>
> Well, Brazilian developer Alexandre Magno
> (http://blog.alexandremagno.net/) came up with a novel and quite simple
> solution to get around this issue; rename the $event expando in Mootools!
>
> "I found a solution that works perfectly. Im the live example that we
> need sometimes to use the both frameworks. Im develop all my projects in
> jQuery, cause I learn more easily and feel more comfotable with it.
> Nothing to do with Mootools, with is a beatiful framework too... But I
> need the fancy upload to work and is just possible with Mootools, I make
> everything, but doesnt work because the conflict with the variable
> $event. I solve this issue by getting the mootools download with no
> compression, use a software like aptana, dreamweaver, or even notepad to
> replace all ocurrences of $event to $event2 for example, and compress
> the libraty after it. This way, the two frameworks works perfectly,
> since the use of jquery with noConflit its configured. I hope this works
> and soon I will develop this fancy upload for jquery to dont have to use
> both. Its a shame for the mootools team wait to Jquery solve this
> problem that noboby its blame... its just convention... why just simple
> replace $event for $mootoolsEvent or $mooEvent for example??? Somethimes
> its necessary use both, no doubt..""
>
> This was posted in the MooTools forum in response to a post where John &
>    I were trying to resolve an integration problem for a MooTools user
> who wanted to use MooTools and jQuery together. We realize that its
> unrealistic to expect that developers are going to use just one library
> and the team goes to great lengths to ensure some level of
> interoperability between other libraries via noConflict(). In jQuery
> v1.2, we take that a step further by allowing the renaming of the events
> expando to whatever you would like, thus avoiding any conflict.
>
> While this was not a bug in jQuery, we feel strongly about allowing
> developers to leverage the tools that they need to do their work and we
> never want jQuery to be a bottleneck.
>
> Thank you John & the jQuery team for continuing to make jQuery such a
> flexible solution and thank you Alexandre for expanding jQuery's reach
> to Brazil and offering up this great workaround.
>
> Rey...


Re: MooTools $events expando workaround

by Olmo Maldonado :: Rate this Message:

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You forgot to post the url to the MooTools forum:
http://forum.mootools.net/viewtopic.php?id=5190#post-26592

-Olmo M.

On Aug 30, 4:05 pm, Rey Bango <r...@...> wrote:

> There was a recent flurry of emails on the list discussing a conflict
> with the use ofMooToolsin conjunction with jQuery. WhenMooTools
> released v1.1, they renamed their events expando to $events, thus
> conflicting instantly with jQuery.
>
> Well, Brazilian developer Alexandre Magno
> (http://blog.alexandremagno.net/) came up with a novel and quite simple
> solution to get around this issue; rename the $event expando inMootools!
>
> "I found a solution that works perfectly. Im the live example that we
> need sometimes to use the both frameworks. Im develop all my projects in
> jQuery, cause I learn more easily and feel more comfotable with it.
> Nothing to do withMootools, with is a beatiful framework too... But I
> need the fancy upload to work and is just possible withMootools, I make
> everything, but doesnt work because the conflict with the variable
> $event. I solve this issue by getting themootoolsdownload with no
> compression, use a software like aptana, dreamweaver, or even notepad to
> replace all ocurrences of $event to $event2 for example, and compress
> the libraty after it. This way, the two frameworks works perfectly,
> since the use of jquery with noConflit its configured. I hope this works
> and soon I will develop this fancy upload for jquery to dont have to use
> both. Its a shame for themootoolsteam wait to Jquery solve this
> problem that noboby its blame... its just convention... why just simple
> replace $event for $mootoolsEvent or $mooEvent for example??? Somethimes
> its necessary use both, no doubt..""
>
> This was posted in theMooToolsforum in response to a post where John &
>    I were trying to resolve an integration problem for aMooToolsuser
> who wanted to useMooToolsand jQuery together. We realize that its
> unrealistic to expect that developers are going to use just one library
> and the team goes to great lengths to ensure some level of
> interoperability between other libraries via noConflict(). In jQuery
> v1.2, we take that a step further by allowing the renaming of the events
> expando to whatever you would like, thus avoiding any conflict.
>
> While this was not a bug in jQuery, we feel strongly about allowing
> developers to leverage the tools that they need to do their work and we
> never want jQuery to be a bottleneck.
>
> Thank you John & the jQuery team for continuing to make jQuery such a
> flexible solution and thank you Alexandre for expanding jQuery's reach
> to Brazil and offering up this great workaround.
>
> Rey...


Re: MooTools $events expando workaround

by Rey Bango-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Actually, I didn't. I left it out intentionally as there was nothing to
be gleaned from the thread.

Rey...

Olmo wrote:
> You forgot to post the url to the MooTools forum:
> http://forum.mootools.net/viewtopic.php?id=5190#post-26592
>
> -Olmo M.
>

Re: MooTools $events expando workaround

by Olmo Maldonado :: Rate this Message:

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There's nothing to glean. It's the right thing to do.
-Olmo M.

On Aug 31, 9:23 pm, Rey Bango <r...@...> wrote:

> Actually, I didn't. I left it out intentionally as there was nothing to
> be gleaned from the thread.
>
> Rey...
>
> Olmo wrote:
> > You forgot to post the url to theMooToolsforum:
> >http://forum.mootools.net/viewtopic.php?id=5190#post-26592
>
> > -Olmo M.


Re: MooTools $events expando workaround

by Rey Bango-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Well, in the interest of full disclosure, for those that don't know,
Olmo is part of the MooTools development team.

Now, back to the topic. If there's nothing to glean and there's no
benefit in sending list members to what ended up as a very unproductive
discussion, why would it be the right thing to do?

Rey...
jQuery Project Team

Olmo wrote:

> There's nothing to glean. It's the right thing to do.
> -Olmo M.
>
> On Aug 31, 9:23 pm, Rey Bango <r...@...> wrote:
>> Actually, I didn't. I left it out intentionally as there was nothing to
>> be gleaned from the thread.
>>
>> Rey...
>>
>> Olmo wrote:
>>> You forgot to post the url to theMooToolsforum:
>>> http://forum.mootools.net/viewtopic.php?id=5190#post-26592
>>> -Olmo M.
>
>

Re: MooTools $events expando workaround

by Olmo Maldonado :: Rate this Message:

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I'll add a signature from now on it seems.

I don't need to waste my time in trying to lecture you. Should have
known better.

-Olmo M.
http://mootools.net/developers

On Sep 1, 8:35 am, Rey Bango <r...@...> wrote:

> Well, in the interest of full disclosure, for those that don't know,
> Olmo is part of theMooToolsdevelopment team.
>
> Now, back to the topic. If there's nothing to glean and there's no
> benefit in sending list members to what ended up as a very unproductive
> discussion, why would it be the right thing to do?
>
> Rey...
> jQuery Project Team
>
> Olmo wrote:
> > There's nothing to glean. It's the right thing to do.
> > -Olmo M.
>
> > On Aug 31, 9:23 pm, Rey Bango <r...@...> wrote:
> >> Actually, I didn't. I left it out intentionally as there was nothing to
> >> be gleaned from the thread.
>
> >> Rey...
>
> >> Olmo wrote:
> >>> You forgot to post the url to theMooToolsforum:
> >>>http://forum.mootools.net/viewtopic.php?id=5190#post-26592
> >>> -Olmo M.


Re: MooTools $events expando workaround

by Rey Bango-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Olmo,

> I'll add a signature from now on it seems.

Thanks. That helps out quite a bit. Kind of like I did when I posted in
the MooTools forum. Its always good to let people know where you're
coming from.

> I don't need to waste my time in trying to lecture you. Should have
> known better.

Thanks. I don't need my time wasted either.

Rey...



Re: MooTools $events expando workaround

by Estevão Lucas :: Rate this Message:

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Here there is more one Brazilian in this mail-list.
jQuery na veia.

On 2 set, 10:03, Rey Bango <r...@...> wrote:

> Hi Olmo,
>
> > I'll add a signature from now on it seems.
>
> Thanks. That helps out quite a bit. Kind of like I did when I posted in
> the MooTools forum. Its always good to let people know where you're
> coming from.
>
> > I don't need to waste my time in trying to lecture you. Should have
> > known better.
>
> Thanks. I don't need my time wasted either.
>
> Rey...


Re: MooTools $events expando workaround

by Ayan-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Dear sir,

I am facing this problem... yes, its because mootool+jQuery.
My Joomla site's Template system runs on mootool, but my one of the
component runs on jQuery.

So, I need to do this Hack.

My question is -

If I convert '$event' to '$event2', will it effect on the workings of
the template system ?


Re: MooTools $events expando workaround

by John Resig :: Rate this Message:

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This was fixed in jQuery version 1.2 (and newer). Using that version
of the library shouldn't cause you any problems.

--John

On 9/28/07, Ayan <iosoft@...> wrote:

>
> Dear sir,
>
> I am facing this problem... yes, its because mootool+jQuery.
> My Joomla site's Template system runs on mootool, but my one of the
> component runs on jQuery.
>
> So, I need to do this Hack.
>
> My question is -
>
> If I convert '$event' to '$event2', will it effect on the workings of
> the template system ?
>
>

Re: MooTools $events expando workaround

by Ayan-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Thanks for your reply.

I realized that the component might be using 1.1.4 version.
I have requested them to upgrade it.


Meanwhile, how can I upgrade the jQuery by myself ?
Here is the file - http://gigahertz.byethost18.com/components/com_fireboard/template/default/js/jquery-latest.pack.js


Re: MooTools $events expando workaround

by caruso_g :: Rate this Message:

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I am sorry to repost again about this conflict, but I am still having
the conflict beetween this two frameworks. I would like to say that I
LARGELY prefer jQuery, which makes me able (just a graphic with NO
coding skills...) to add utilities and effects to my site in a breeze
(thanks, really)! But I have to make sites where other devs use
Mootools, so I am still encountering the issue. I update the jQuery
package to the latest, since I red that it was solved, but the
conflict is still there. Thanks to everyone which will have the time
to help me. The following is the link where I get the issue:
http://www.bonsai-studio.net/clients/clickadvisor-02/plugins-pages/accordion/index.html

On 29 Set, 06:29, Ayan <ios...@...> wrote:
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I realized that the component might be using 1.1.4 version.
> I have requested them to upgrade it.
>
> Meanwhile, how can I upgrade the jQuery by myself ?
> Here is the file -http://gigahertz.byethost18.com/components/com_fireboard/template/def...