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More on twofers
by Peter Ward
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I have a two-for-one by Forest, double CD, including releases Forest and Full Circle. These releases are currently in the database, I've added the release group for the twofer. Is there any way to duplicate the original releases so I can add the copies to the new release group, or will I have to enter everything again?
URLs Forest: http://musicbrainz.org/release/77703c45-5916-48b8-bcd8-7e49595cc56d.html Full Circle: http://musicbrainz.org/release/9885996e-9af9-4b0a-9d8e-0520d7df75d7.html New release group: http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/13ac9059-6789-4d63-93b8-be8434e71a1c.html Peter |
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Re: More on twofers
by Frederic Da Vitoria
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2009/8/8 Peter Ward <connect@...>:
> > I have a two-for-one by Forest, double CD, including releases Forest and Full > Circle. These releases are currently in the database, I've added the > release group for the twofer. Is there any way to duplicate the original > releases so I can add the copies to the new release group, or will I have to > enter everything again? > > URLs > Forest: > http://musicbrainz.org/release/77703c45-5916-48b8-bcd8-7e49595cc56d.html > > Full Circle: > http://musicbrainz.org/release/9885996e-9af9-4b0a-9d8e-0520d7df75d7.html > > New release group: > http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/13ac9059-6789-4d63-93b8-be8434e71a1c.html ... or should there be a way to link a Release to more than one Release Group? This is leading to Release duplication, and duplication is BAD... -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org _______________________________________________ MusicBrainz-users mailing list MusicBrainz-users@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-users |
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Re: More on twofers
by Sami Sundell-2
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On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 05:36:20PM +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote:
> > I have a two-for-one by Forest, double CD, including releases Forest > > and Full Circle. These releases are currently in the database, > ... or should there be a way to link a Release to more than one > Release Group? This is leading to Release duplication, and duplication > is BAD... It's basically a case of http://musicbrainz.org/doc/What_Defines_A_Unique_Release#What_about_BoxSets.3F So, don't add any new releases or release groups. Just add release events to those original releases. That's, of course, assuming it's really a re-release of the original album with one album per CD, no extra tracks etc. -- Sami Sundell ssundell@... _______________________________________________ MusicBrainz-users mailing list MusicBrainz-users@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-users |
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Re: More on twofers
by Frederic Da Vitoria
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2009/8/8 Sami Sundell <ssundell@...>:
> On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 05:36:20PM +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > >> > I have a two-for-one by Forest, double CD, including releases Forest >> > and Full Circle. These releases are currently in the database, > >> ... or should there be a way to link a Release to more than one >> Release Group? This is leading to Release duplication, and duplication >> is BAD... > > It's basically a case of > http://musicbrainz.org/doc/What_Defines_A_Unique_Release#What_about_BoxSets.3F > > So, don't add any new releases or release groups. Just add > release events to those original releases. > > That's, of course, assuming it's really a re-release of the original > album with one album per CD, no extra tracks etc. from Kuno's version of the Release Groups documentation: "2 in 1" releases should have a third release group. This applies to all Release Types, including 2-in-1 albums and double A-side singles. e.g. ABBA's "Waterloo / Voulez-Vous" should not be merged into "Waterloo" or "Voulez-Vous". I thought this meant that Peter's Forest release was to be entered separately. I am glad if I am wrong! Could someone explain to me my mistake? And maybe edit the documentation in order to make it more clear? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org _______________________________________________ MusicBrainz-users mailing list MusicBrainz-users@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-users |
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Re: More on twofers
by Pavan Chander
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The two in one releases being mentioned in the guideline are for releases where there are two (previously) released albums on *one* disc. If it is just a re-release of multiple albums, but all of them on their own discs, then the release (and relevant release group) should most likely *not* be duplicated, as per http://musicbrainz.org/doc/What_Defines_A_Unique_Release.
Pavan Chander // navap On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria <davitofrg@...> wrote: 2009/8/8 Sami Sundell <ssundell@...>: _______________________________________________ MusicBrainz-users mailing list MusicBrainz-users@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-users |
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Re: More on twofers
by Chad Wilson-2
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And there is a specific point in the Release Group guideline added for
this very case: "For Box Sets <http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Box_Set> or Multi-Disc Releases <http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Multi-Disc_Release> where each disc has been released separately. If these individual discs have *not* been duplicated due to the rules outlined at "What Defines A Unique Release <http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/What_Defines_A_Unique_Release>", they should *not* be grouped together as per the normal box set rules noted above. " Chad / voiceinsideyou Pavan Chander wrote: > The two in one releases being mentioned in the guideline are for > releases where there are two (previously) released albums on *one* > disc. If it is just a re-release of multiple albums, but all of them > on their own discs, then the release (and relevant release group) > should most likely *not* be duplicated, as > per http://musicbrainz.org/doc/What_Defines_A_Unique_Release > <http://musicbrainz.org/doc/What_Defines_A_Unique_Release#What_about_BoxSets.3F>. > > > Pavan Chander // navap > > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria > <davitofrg@... <mailto:davitofrg@...>> wrote: > > 2009/8/8 Sami Sundell <ssundell@... <mailto:ssundell@...>>: > > On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 05:36:20PM +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > > > >> > I have a two-for-one by Forest, double CD, including releases > Forest > >> > and Full Circle. These releases are currently in the database, > > > >> ... or should there be a way to link a Release to more than one > >> Release Group? This is leading to Release duplication, and > duplication > >> is BAD... > > > > It's basically a case of > > > http://musicbrainz.org/doc/What_Defines_A_Unique_Release#What_about_BoxSets.3F > > > > So, don't add any new releases or release groups. Just add > > release events to those original releases. > > > > That's, of course, assuming it's really a re-release of the original > > album with one album per CD, no extra tracks etc. > > from Kuno's version of the Release Groups documentation: > > "2 in 1" releases should have a third release group. This applies to > all Release Types, including 2-in-1 albums and double A-side singles. > e.g. ABBA's "Waterloo / Voulez-Vous" should not be merged into > "Waterloo" or "Voulez-Vous". > > I thought this meant that Peter's Forest release was to be entered > separately. I am glad if I am wrong! Could someone explain to me my > mistake? And maybe edit the documentation in order to make it more > clear? > > -- > Frederic Da Vitoria > (davitof) > > Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - > http://www.april.org > > _______________________________________________ > MusicBrainz-users mailing list > MusicBrainz-users@... > <mailto:MusicBrainz-users@...> > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > MusicBrainz-users mailing list > MusicBrainz-users@... > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-users _______________________________________________ MusicBrainz-users mailing list MusicBrainz-users@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-users |
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Re: More on twofers
by Frederic Da Vitoria
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Ok. I suggest this be specifically mentioned in the Release Group
guide. I know, this would be duplication ( ;-) ), but I believe that if I misinterpreted this, others might too. The distinction between Box Sets and 2 in 1 was not obvious to me. So for example something like "2 in 1" releases (2 previously released discs on one single new disc) should have... would make this perfectly clear. 2009/8/9 Chad Wilson <chad.wilson@...>: > And there is a specific point in the Release Group guideline added for > this very case: > > "For Box Sets <http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Box_Set> or Multi-Disc > Releases <http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Multi-Disc_Release> where each > disc has been released separately. If these individual discs have *not* > been duplicated due to the rules outlined at "What Defines A Unique > Release <http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/What_Defines_A_Unique_Release>", > they should *not* be grouped together as per the normal box set rules > noted above. " > > Chad / voiceinsideyou > > Pavan Chander wrote: >> The two in one releases being mentioned in the guideline are for >> releases where there are two (previously) released albums on *one* >> disc. If it is just a re-release of multiple albums, but all of them >> on their own discs, then the release (and relevant release group) >> should most likely *not* be duplicated, as >> per http://musicbrainz.org/doc/What_Defines_A_Unique_Release >> <http://musicbrainz.org/doc/What_Defines_A_Unique_Release#What_about_BoxSets.3F>. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org _______________________________________________ MusicBrainz-users mailing list MusicBrainz-users@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-users |
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Re: More on twofers
by Peter Ward
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I'm lost. I'm going to cancel the new release group and forget about it for now. I'll try and remember to come back to it when it becomes clear, if it ever does. This isn't a release of the two original albums, it's a separate release of two CDs containing the same content. It's in a double CD package, not separate jewel cases. Reading the guidelines for box sets doesn't help. Peter |
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Re: More on twofers
by HumHumXX
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Just add a one release event with your release data to each of the two
albums and you're done. No new release group, no new release. Cheers. Am 09.08.2009, 16:13 Uhr, schrieb Peter Ward <connect@...>: > > > I'm lost. I'm going to cancel the new release group and forget about it > for > now. I'll try and remember to come back to it when it becomes clear, if > it > ever does. > > This isn't a release of the two original albums, it's a separate release > of > two CDs containing the same content. It's in a double CD package, not > separate jewel cases. Reading the guidelines for box sets doesn't help. > > ----- > Peter -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ _______________________________________________ MusicBrainz-users mailing list MusicBrainz-users@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-users |
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Re: More on twofers
by Jan van Thiel-4
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You can also add a note like I did on
http://musicbrainz.org/release/e9c991e2-2b60-4166-8fd1-875a0ab94613.html . Jan 2009/8/9 <HumHumXX@...>: > Just add a one release event with your release data to each of the two > albums and you're done. No new release group, no new release. Cheers. > > Am 09.08.2009, 16:13 Uhr, schrieb Peter Ward > <connect@...>: > >> >> >> I'm lost. I'm going to cancel the new release group and forget about it >> for >> now. I'll try and remember to come back to it when it becomes clear, if >> it >> ever does. >> >> This isn't a release of the two original albums, it's a separate release >> of >> two CDs containing the same content. It's in a double CD package, not >> separate jewel cases. Reading the guidelines for box sets doesn't help. >> >> ----- >> Peter > > > > -- > Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > > _______________________________________________ > MusicBrainz-users mailing list > MusicBrainz-users@... > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-users _______________________________________________ MusicBrainz-users mailing list MusicBrainz-users@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-users |
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