Multiple Loops in Lasso Code

[Scott Brister]

I have a lasso file that has multiple levels of nested loops that  
compares Zip codes for distance calculations. Recently Lasso, MySQL,  
or FireFox have been choking on the process. When I limit the number  
of loops to 2 for test purposes, it works, but letting it try the  
third loop causes everything to bog down and not finish the process.  
MySQL processes seem to show to be completed but the page never renders.

Each nested loop contains a query and html is built accordingly. So  
often the process can go through hundreds of queries. On "limited  
loop" tests, there is so much white space (hidden lasso code) that the  
lines for the rendered source pages number in the thousands. Could I  
be hitting a browser limit? Is there a way to eliminate the lines of  
hidden Lasso code in the final html rendering? Could the finished  
output just get too big for Lasso to send back to the browser?

I'm just not sure how to troubleshoot this since the code works  
through a couple of iterations of loops then gags. Not a MySQL genius  
so I'm not sure what settings I need to tweak there, if needed.

Thanks for any input.

Scott Brister

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[Jason Huck]

Lasso code within a single set of delimiters ("[" and "]" or
"<?lassoscript" and "?>") do not produce whitespace. From your
description, it sounds like the code is written like this:

[if: (some condition)]
    [do something]
[else]
    [do something else]
[/if]

...and so on. If instead it were written like this:

[
    if(some condition);
        do something;
    else;
        do something else;
    /if;
]

...and so on, the resulting file would produce far, far less white
space. That is something you have total control over as a developer.

We have seen cases where extremely large/long pages did not render
completely or correctly in Firefox. If that's the only browser you are
seeing it in, and there's no indication of a problem from Lasso,
MySQL, or your web server, my guess is all that extra whitespace is
indeed the problem.

- jason




On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Scott Brister <rsb@...> wrote:

> I have a lasso file that has multiple levels of nested loops that compares
> Zip codes for distance calculations. Recently Lasso, MySQL, or FireFox have
> been choking on the process. When I limit the number of loops to 2 for test
> purposes, it works, but letting it try the third loop causes everything to
> bog down and not finish the process. MySQL processes seem to show to be
> completed but the page never renders.
>
> Each nested loop contains a query and html is built accordingly. So often
> the process can go through hundreds of queries. On "limited loop" tests,
> there is so much white space (hidden lasso code) that the lines for the
> rendered source pages number in the thousands. Could I be hitting a browser
> limit? Is there a way to eliminate the lines of hidden Lasso code in the
> final html rendering? Could the finished output just get too big for Lasso
> to send back to the browser?
>
> I'm just not sure how to troubleshoot this since the code works through a
> couple of iterations of loops then gags. Not a MySQL genius so I'm not sure
> what settings I need to tweak there, if needed.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Scott Brister
>
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[Scott Brister]

Well, I'm not so great at Lasso administration either, apparently. I  
have these types of errors in the Lasso log:

Script execution time limit exceeded while executing  
'Path_of_the_problem_file.lasso'. Killing thread B0081000
Level: Critical

Message: MySQLDS failed connecting to MySQL. errno=2013 "Lost  
connection to MySQL server during query"

They're easy enough to understand. Just don't how to deal with them.  
Apparently the process is having problems in Lasso. I'm going to  
continue to look for ways to optimize the code, but as I mentioned in  
my earlier post, this was working (slowly, but working) before. On v.  
8.5.5 and Leopard Server 10.5.8 now and will attempt an upgrade to  
8.5.6 tonight. Any help would be appreciated.

Scott Brister

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[Viaduct Productions]

Maybe you can post your code, or explain what it is you are trying to  
do, then it can be rewritten instead of looping through loops.  You're  
timing out, so it's a huge request you are doing.  Maybe you can  
restructure your data to optimize this.

On 2009-10-23, at 10:23 AM, Scott Brister wrote:

> Script execution time limit exceeded while executing  
> 'Path_of_the_problem_file.lasso'. Killing thread B0081000
> Level: Critical



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[Brad Lindsay-2]

On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Scott Brister wrote:

> Well, I'm not so great at Lasso administration either, apparently. I  
> have these types of errors in the Lasso log:
>
> Script execution time limit exceeded while executing  
> 'Path_of_the_problem_file.lasso'. Killing thread B0081000
> Level: Critical

If you login to the Lasso Site Admin and go to "Setup > Site > Lasso  
Settings" You'll see a section titled "Thread Time Limit".  You can  
tell it not to limit the time, or adjust how long it waits there.  The  
default seems to be 600 seconds - are your pages taking longer than  
10min. to load?

> Message: MySQLDS failed connecting to MySQL. errno=2013 "Lost  
> connection to MySQL server during query"

Is this before or after the timeout? If after, I would bet it's caused  
by the timeout.


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[Scott Brister]

That was something of which I was obviously unaware. I suppose this is  
the first time I've had a process that caused me to really look at the  
final html source. Anyway, thank you for that suggestion. I cleaned up  
the code using the structure below and thousands upon thousands of  
blank html lines disappeared. Much appreciated.

The time-out problem persists, however, even after that code clean up.  
(Jason replied to my first post before I sent the other indicating the  
time-out problems.)


Jason Huck wrote:

> Lasso code within a single set of delimiters ("[" and "]" or
> "<?lassoscript" and "?>") do not produce whitespace. From your
> description, it sounds like the code is written like this:
>
> [if: (some condition)]
> [do something]
> [else]
> [do something else]
> [/if]
>
> ....and so on. If instead it were written like this:
>
> [
> if(some condition);
> do something;
> else;
> do something else;
> /if;
> ]
>
> snip
>
> - jason

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[Scott Brister]

I'm in the process of optimizing the code. It's complicated (for me)  
because of the loops, and if I don't get results I'll post the code or  
the "concept" and see if anyone has ideas. Thanks.

Viaduct Productions wrote:
> Maybe you can post your code, or explain what it is you are trying to
> do, then it can be rewritten instead of looping through loops. You're
> timing out, so it's a huge request you are doing. Maybe you can
> restructure your data to optimize this.



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[Scott Brister]

The timeouts are occurring when I let the page churn, so yes, they are  
taking more than 10 minutes. I'd obviously rather optimize than set a  
longer limit, but I do appreciate the suggestion and may use it for  
testing. Thank you.

Brad Lindsay wrote:
> If you login to the Lasso Site Admin and go to "Setup > Site > Lasso
> Settings" You'll see a section titled "Thread Time Limit". You can
> tell it not to limit the time, or adjust how long it waits there. The
> default seems to be 600 seconds - are your pages taking longer than
> 10min. to load?
>
> > Message: MySQLDS failed connecting to MySQL. errno=2013 "Lost
> > connection to MySQL server during query"

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[bilcorry]

Scott Brister wrote on 10/23/2009 11:59 AM:
> The timeouts are occurring when I let the page churn, so yes, they are
> taking more than 10 minutes. I'd obviously rather optimize than set a
> longer limit, but I do appreciate the suggestion and may use it for
> testing. Thank you.

You can set the timeout limit for just that page using [Lasso_ExecutionTimeLimit] at the top of the page:

        http://reference.lassosoft.com/Reference.LassoApp?[Lasso_ExecutionTimeLimit]

The issue with really long processing pages is the page will process in Lasso, but the web server gives up after a certain amount of time and returns an error to the browser anyhow...


- Bil



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[James Harvard]

At 08:05 -0500 23/10/09, Scott Brister wrote:
>I have a lasso file that has multiple levels of nested loops that compares Zip codes for distance calculations. Recently Lasso, MySQL, or FireFox have been choking on the process. When I limit the number of loops to 2 for test purposes, it works, but letting it try the third loop causes everything to bog down and not finish the process. MySQL processes seem to show to be completed but the page never renders.

At 13:57 -0500 23/10/09, Scott Brister wrote:
>The time-out problem persists, however, even after that code clean up. (Jason replied to my first post before I sent the other indicating the time-out problems.)

It doesn't sound as if you should need nested loops or inlines to do this. It would probably be best to do your distance calculations in MySQL. I think Bil Corry has posted SQL statements for this before. If not then I'm sure Google knows the correct SQL.

Also, if you're doing a search along the lines of "zip codes within 20 miles of point x", don't forget that you can narrow down the number of rows that you need to perform the distance calculations on. If you want to find locations within a x mile radius you can search the database on (location_latitude BETWEEN (search_latitude - x) AND (search_latitude + x)) AND (location_longitude BETWEEN (search_longitude - x) AND (search_longitude + x)).

That's an easy search for MySQL to do quickly with very few calculations involved and you exclude any locations lying outside the square area that encloses the circular area of your actual search radius.

I was going to explain that further, but then it occurred to me that Google Images might do a better job. I was right!
http://www.zipcodedownload.com/Documentation/DistanceWizard/images/Diagram.jpg

HTH,
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[Steve Piercy]

If your solution continues to bog down, I wrote something that
might be of use:

http://stevepiercy.com/lasso_stuff/zipdist/distance.lasso

--steve


On 10/23/09 at 8:05 AM, rsb@... (Scott Brister) pronounced:

>I have a lasso file that has multiple levels of nested loops
>that compares Zip codes for distance calculations. Recently
>Lasso, MySQL, or FireFox have been choking on the process. When
>I limit the number of loops to 2 for test purposes, it works,
>but letting it try the third loop causes everything to bog down
>and not finish the process. MySQL processes seem to show to be
>completed but the page never renders.
>
>Each nested loop contains a query and html is built
>accordingly. So often the process can go through hundreds of
>queries. On "limited loop" tests, there is so much white space
>(hidden lasso code) that the lines for the rendered source
>pages number in the thousands. Could I be hitting a browser
>limit? Is there a way to eliminate the lines of hidden Lasso
>code in the final html rendering? Could the finished output
>just get too big for Lasso to send back to the browser?
>
>I'm just not sure how to troubleshoot this since the code works
>through a couple of iterations of loops then gags. Not a MySQL
>genius so I'm not sure what settings I need to tweak there, if needed.
>
>Thanks for any input.
>
>Scott Brister
>
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[Scott Brister]

Yeah, I was far too scant with my description of this project. Here  
goes. The most-outer loop loops through an array of "Regions" of which  
there may be as many as 20. Within each Region there loops an array of  
Zip Codes (possibly hundreds) that, with my admittedly limited  
understanding of SQL, are processed individually to determine how many  
"hits" lie within the specified radius for each Zip Code. I am indeed  
using SQL for the radius calculation. In other words, I need to  
display each Region and within each Region the individual Zip Codes  
and the number of hits near each Zip Code.

God knows I'd be happy to hear any other suggestion on structure.

What puzzles me most is that it takes 5 seconds to generate the page  
when I limit the outer loop to 2 iterations (two Regions displayed).  
But stepping up to 3 or more it just chokes.

Thank you for the reply. I am in the process of trying to optimize the  
code and the suggestion of bracketing the latitude and longitude is a  
nice idea. I'm assuming x in your example would be a calculation  
involving the number of miles per degree of latitude and longitude.

Scott

James Harvard wrote:

> >I have a lasso file that has multiple levels of nested loops that  
> compares Zip codes for distance calculations. Recently Lasso, MySQL,  
> or FireFox have been choking on the process. When I limit the number  
> of loops to 2 for test purposes, it works, but letting it try the  
> third loop causes everything to bog down and not finish the process.  
> MySQL processes seem to show to be completed but the page never  
> renders.
>
> At 13:57 -0500 23/10/09, Scott Brister wrote:
> >The time-out problem persists, however, even after that code clean  
> up. (Jason replied to my first post before I sent the other  
> indicating the time-out problems.)
>
> It doesn't sound as if you should need nested loops or inlines to do  
> this. It would probably be best to do your distance calculations in  
> MySQL. I think Bil Corry has posted SQL statements for this before.  
> If not then I'm sure Google knows the correct SQL.
>
> Also, if you're doing a search along the lines of "zip codes within  
> 20 miles of point x", don't forget that you can narrow down the  
> number of rows that you need to perform the distance calculations  
> on. If you want to find locations within a x mile radius you can  
> search the database on (location_latitude BETWEEN (search_latitude -  
> x) AND (search_latitude + x)) AND (location_longitude BETWEEN  
> (search_longitude - x) AND (search_longitude + x)).
>
> That's an easy search for MySQL to do quickly with very few  
> calculations involved and you exclude any locations lying outside  
> the square area that encloses the circular area of your actual  
> search radius.
>
> I was going to explain that further, but then it occurred to me that  
> Google Images might do a better job. I was right!
> http://www.zipcodedownload.com/Documentation/DistanceWizard/images/Diagram.jpg
>
> HTH,
> James

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[Steve Piercy]

And more information on techniques:
http://www.nabble.com/Postcode-Distance-Calculator-UK-tt5500708.html#a5500708

--steve


On 10/23/09 at 1:43 PM, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web
Site Builder) pronounced:

>If your solution continues to bog down, I wrote something that might be of use:
>
>http://stevepiercy.com/lasso_stuff/zipdist/distance.lasso
>
>--steve
>
>
>On 10/23/09 at 8:05 AM, rsb@... (Scott Brister) pronounced:
>
>>I have a lasso file that has multiple levels of nested loops
>>that compares Zip codes for distance calculations. Recently
>>Lasso, MySQL, or FireFox have been choking on the process.
>>When I limit the number of loops to 2 for test purposes, it
>>works, but letting it try the third loop causes everything to
>>bog down and not finish the process. MySQL processes seem to
>>show to be completed but the page never renders.
>>
>>Each nested loop contains a query and html is built
>>accordingly. So often the process can go through hundreds of
>>queries. On "limited loop" tests, there is so much white space
>>(hidden lasso code) that the lines for the rendered source
>>pages number in the thousands. Could I be hitting a browser
>>limit? Is there a way to eliminate the lines of hidden Lasso
>>code in the final html rendering? Could the finished output
>>just get too big for Lasso to send back to the browser?
>>
>>I'm just not sure how to troubleshoot this since the code
>>works through a couple of iterations of loops then gags. Not a
>>MySQL genius so I'm not sure what settings I need to tweak
>>there, if needed.
>>
>>Thanks for any input.
>>
>>Scott Brister
>>
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[JP-14]

On Oct 23, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Scott Brister wrote:

> Thank you for the reply. I am in the process of trying to optimize  
> the code and the suggestion of bracketing the latitude and longitude  
> is a nice idea. I'm assuming x in your example would be a  
> calculation involving the number of miles per degree of latitude and  
> longitude.

I 'asked" Yahoo this question "how many miles in 1 degree latutude"  
and got this answer

Degrees of latitude are parallel so the distance between each degree  
remains almost constant but since degrees of longitude are farthest  
apart at the equator and converge at the poles, their distance varies  
greatly.
Each degree of latitude is approximately 69 miles (111 kilometers)  
apart. The range varies (due to the earth's slightly ellipsoid shape)  
from 68.703 miles (110.567 km) at the equator to 69.407 (111.699 km)  
at the poles. This is convenient because each minute (1/60th of a  
degree) is approximately one mile.

A degree of longitude is widest at the equator at 69.172 miles  
(111.321) and gradually shrinks to zero at the poles. At 40° north or  
south the distance between a degree of longitude is 53 miles (85 km).
Source(s):
GEOGRAPHY TEACHER

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[JP-14]

And better yet ..use a zipcode database from a variety of available  
sources ....zipcodes.com is one    The database typcially has  
zipcoees, latittudes, longitutues, cities, states, counties, and lots  
of other goodies.

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[bilcorry]

James Harvard wrote on 10/23/2009 1:08 PM:

> Also, if you're doing a search along the lines of "zip codes within
> 20 miles of point x", don't forget that you can narrow down the
> number of rows that you need to perform the distance calculations on.
> If you want to find locations within a x mile radius you can search
> the database on (location_latitude BETWEEN (search_latitude - x) AND
> (search_latitude + x)) AND (location_longitude BETWEEN
> (search_longitude - x) AND (search_longitude + x)).
>
> That's an easy search for MySQL to do quickly with very few
> calculations involved and you exclude any locations lying outside the
> square area that encloses the circular area of your actual search
> radius.
>
> I was going to explain that further, but then it occurred to me that
> Google Images might do a better job. I was right!
> http://www.zipcodedownload.com/Documentation/DistanceWizard/images/Diagram.jpg

Yes, great image, that is the same technique that I describe here:

        http://www.nabble.com/Postcode-Distance-Calculator-UK-tt5500708.html#a5527559


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[Scott Brister]

Well, I though I'd say thank you to all who contributed responses to  
this dilemma. I had investigated all parts (or so I thought) of the  
equation--Lasso, MySQL, Apache, FireFox, code optimization (which I  
needed to do anyway but was not the solution to this particular  
problem).

The problem of pages with many loops not responding was...DNS (or  
something related to it).

The pages load very easily and quickly when I access my server using  
its internal IP address or using "xserve.local". (I have no idea why I  
had not tried that previously. Tired and frustrated, I suppose.  
Bypassing my domain name in the URL works like a charm. Large amounts  
of Zip Codes in many loops does not choke Lasso or MySQL. I didn't  
think it should have, and that was the frustrating part.

Luckily, this is an in-house solution so I can actually get my report  
done. But it worries me if I ever have to make this available to my  
customers.

Now if anybody can explain to me where the bog down using DNS would  
occur, I would be very appreciative. I know this is a Lasso list, but  
thought someone might have a suggestion.  We recently switched to Cox  
Cable for our network services. This project, however was running fine  
after that switch. It only started to act up a couple of weeks later,  
so I did not consider that a potential factor, but now the problem  
seems to be pointing to their DNS servers. Would I be mistaken in that  
assumption? I wouldn't even know what to ask them. Running Leopard  
Server 10.5.8 and I know DNS is flakey on that as well. I try never to  
touch it.

Anyway, thanks, everybody, for your help. It was quick and insightful.  
Many excellent suggestions. In one way or another I used them all. The  
boxing-in of latitudes and longitudes on the distance calcs was  
especially helpful. I actually thought that was going to be my key to  
victory. Alas, no. But it made my code more efficient.

Scott Brister

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[JP-14]

You  might want to consider getting an account with OpenDNS or any  
other DNS service to bypass your ISP's own DNS servers.

Usually, DNS issues are related to specifically network latency in my  
experience.  Sometimes, the first 2 times doesn't get results, but the  
3rd time does.  It's when your router that is handling the network  
packets/traffic is trying to find the correct DNS server that has the  
domain name record to resolve to the IP address.

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[Scott Brister]

OK. Further clarification. The timeout problem occurs any time I'm out  
of my own network. I tried running this project by accessing my site  
via my external static IP address and the same problem occurs. So it's  
not DNS, but rather any time I'm accessing via my ISP. Again,  
accessing the site internally is not a problem. So it appears I need  
to talk to Cox and find out if they are throttling throughput. I  
understand they are doing some "prioritizing" of packets. Does anybody  
know how Lasso pages are identified? In other words, do they just look  
like standard http packets on port 80? Cox is supposedly making those  
a higher priority but these particularly time-consuming pages simply  
do not work when being sent outside my network.

Scott Brister

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[James Harvard]

There may be a firewall or proxy server between the remote user and Lasso that drops the connection after x seconds.
James

>OK. Further clarification. The timeout problem occurs any time I'm out of my own network. I tried running this project by accessing my site via my external static IP address and the same problem occurs. So it's not DNS, but rather any time I'm accessing via my ISP. Again, accessing the site internally is not a problem. So it appears I need to talk to Cox and find out if they are throttling throughput. I understand they are doing some "prioritizing" of packets. Does anybody know how Lasso pages are identified? In other words, do they just look like standard http packets on port 80? Cox is supposedly making those a higher priority but these particularly time-consuming pages simply do not work when being sent outside my network.
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>Scott Brister

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