tag:old.nabble.com,2006:forum-10925Nabble - MusicBrainz - Playlist2009-12-13T05:49:18ZDiscussion about creating a new portable playlist format that is open, portable and it doesn't suck.tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26766238Re: xspf.org2009-12-13T05:49:18Z2009-12-13T05:49:18ZDaniel O'Connor<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Lucas Gonze <span dir="ltr"><<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26766238&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">lucas@...</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Daniel, if you want to be able to maintain this stuff in the long run<br>
we should just give you svn access. Does that make sense, or is the<br>
one-time fix better?<br>
<div><div></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br>I would be happy to maintain it via SVN; and since it's likely to require further tweaks over the initial period, and then the odd one over the next few years, that's probably a good course.<br>
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<br><br>Toby P was going to arrange a contact to see if we could get artist
<br>names added for the sake of resolution.
<br><br>On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Richard Jones <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26762008&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">rj@...</a>> wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Doesnt have the artist name tho?
<br>> Makes it tricky for other resolvers to use the playlist, at least
<br>> without using the ASIN and doing external lookups.
<br>>
<br>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Lucas Gonze <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26762008&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">lucas.gonze@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>> The thing that makes me really happy is that they did it in an
<br>>> intelligent way, with validity and correct semantics. All that
<br>>> invalid stuff for Musicplayer shows that people don't get what
<br>>> shareability is.
<br>>>
<br>>> 2009/12/12 Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26762008&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">justivo@...</a>>:
<br>>>> A good achievement, mainstream-wise. Kudos to Amazon.
<br>>>>
<br>>>> -Ivo
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<br>Makes it tricky for other resolvers to use the playlist, at least
<br>without using the ASIN and doing external lookups.
<br><br>On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Lucas Gonze <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26761509&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">lucas.gonze@...</a>> wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> The thing that makes me really happy is that they did it in an
<br>> intelligent way, with validity and correct semantics. All that
<br>> invalid stuff for Musicplayer shows that people don't get what
<br>> shareability is.
<br>>
<br>> 2009/12/12 Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26761509&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">justivo@...</a>>:
<br>>> A good achievement, mainstream-wise. Kudos to Amazon.
<br>>>
<br>>> -Ivo
<br>>>
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<br>intelligent way, with validity and correct semantics. All that
<br>invalid stuff for Musicplayer shows that people don't get what
<br>shareability is.
<br><br>2009/12/12 Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26760494&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">justivo@...</a>>:
<br>> A good achievement, mainstream-wise. Kudos to Amazon.
<br>>
<br>> -Ivo
<br>>
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<br>we should just give you svn access. Does that make sense, or is the
<br>one-time fix better?
<br><br>On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Daniel O'Connor
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<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Index: validation/xspf-1.xsd
<br>> ===================================================================
<br>> --- validation/xspf-1.xsd (revision 16747)
<br>> +++ validation/xspf-1.xsd (working copy)
<br>> @@ -28,10 +28,25 @@
<br>>
<br>> <xsd:schema xmlns:xsd = "<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema</a>"
<br>> xmlns:xspf = "<a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/</a>"
<br>> +
<br>> targetNamespace="<a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/</a>"
<br>> elementFormDefault="qualified"
<br>> - attributeFormDefault="unqualified">
<br>> + attributeFormDefault="unqualified"
<br>>
<br>> +xmlns:data-view="<a href="http://www.w3.org/2003/g/data-view#" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/2003/g/data-view#</a>"
<br>> +data-view:transformation="<a href="http://www.w3.org/2003/g/embeddedRDF.xsl" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/2003/g/embeddedRDF.xsl</a>">
<br>> +
<br>> +<xsd:annotation>
<br>> +<xsd:appinfo>
<br>> + <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="<a href="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#</a>">
<br>> + <rdf:Description rdf:about="">
<br>> + <data-view:namespaceTransformation
<br>> + rdf:resource="<a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/XSPF.xsl" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/XSPF.xsl</a>" />
<br>> + </rdf:Description>
<br>> + </rdf:RDF>
<br>> +</xsd:appinfo>
<br>> +</xsd:annotation>
<br>> +
<br>> <xsd:element name="playlist" type="xspf:PlaylistType"/>
<br>>
<br>> <xsd:complexType name="PlaylistType">
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> even.
<br>>
<br>>
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<br> <xsd:schema xmlns:xsd = "<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema</a>"<br> xmlns:xspf = "<a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/</a>"<br>
+<br> targetNamespace="<a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/</a>"<br> elementFormDefault="qualified"<br>- attributeFormDefault="unqualified"><br>
+ attributeFormDefault="unqualified"<br> <br>+xmlns:data-view="<a href="http://www.w3.org/2003/g/data-view#" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/2003/g/data-view#</a>" <br>+data-view:transformation="<a href="http://www.w3.org/2003/g/embeddedRDF.xsl" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/2003/g/embeddedRDF.xsl</a>"><br>
+<br>+<xsd:annotation><br>+<xsd:appinfo><br>+ <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="<a href="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#</a>"><br>+ <rdf:Description rdf:about=""><br>
+ <data-view:namespaceTransformation<br>+ rdf:resource="<a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/XSPF.xsl" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/XSPF.xsl</a>" /><br>+ </rdf:Description><br>+ </rdf:RDF><br>
+</xsd:appinfo><br>+</xsd:annotation><br>+<br> <xsd:element name="playlist" type="xspf:PlaylistType"/><br> <br> <xsd:complexType name="PlaylistType"><br><br><br>even.<br>
<br><br>
<br /><tt>[patch.diff]</tt><br /><hr align="left" width="300" /><tt>Index: validation/xspf-1.xsd
<br>===================================================================
<br>--- validation/xspf-1.xsd (revision 16747)
<br>+++ validation/xspf-1.xsd (working copy)
<br>@@ -28,10 +28,25 @@
<br>
<br> <xsd:schema xmlns:xsd = "http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
<br> xmlns:xspf = "http://xspf.org/ns/0/"
<br>+
<br> targetNamespace="http://xspf.org/ns/0/"
<br> elementFormDefault="qualified"
<br>- attributeFormDefault="unqualified">
<br>+ attributeFormDefault="unqualified"
<br>
<br>+xmlns:data-view="http://www.w3.org/2003/g/data-view#"
<br>+data-view:transformation="http://www.w3.org/2003/g/embeddedRDF.xsl">
<br>+
<br>+<xsd:annotation>
<br>+<xsd:appinfo>
<br>+ <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
<br>+ <rdf:Description rdf:about="">
<br>+ <data-view:namespaceTransformation
<br>+ rdf:resource="http://xspf.org/ns/0/XSPF.xsl" />
<br>+ </rdf:Description>
<br>+ </rdf:RDF>
<br>+</xsd:appinfo>
<br>+</xsd:annotation>
<br>+
<br> <xsd:element name="playlist" type="xspf:PlaylistType"/>
<br>
<br> <xsd:complexType name="PlaylistType">
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Another bit of related site maintenance to be done is to get a grddl<br>
xslt hosted at <a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/</a> you think?<br>
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<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br>Ah neat! Thanks guys!<br><br><br><br><br><br>.... however, two last changes needed to make it work with GRDDL tools...<br><br>1) Patch the XSD to say "hey, look at this XSL"<br>
<br>Index: validation/xspf-1.xsd<br>===================================================================<br>--- validation/xspf-1.xsd (revision 16747)<br>+++ validation/xspf-1.xsd (working copy)<br>@@ -32,6 +32,17 @@<br>
elementFormDefault="qualified"<br> attributeFormDefault="unqualified"><br> <br>+<xsd:annotation><br>+<xsd:appinfo><br>+ <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="<a href="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#</a>"><br>
+ <rdf:Description rdf:about="<a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/</a>"><br>+ <data-view:namespaceTransformation<br>+ rdf:resource="<a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/XSPF.xsl" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/XSPF.xsl</a>" /><br>
+ </rdf:Description><br>+ </rdf:RDF><br>+</xsd:appinfo><br>+</xsd:annotation><br>+<br><br>2) Add a symlink or copy of the xsd so it appears instead of the directory listing @ <a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/</a> (ie: 'index.xsd')<br>
<br>Sorry, I probably omitted that from the original email :S<br><br><br>
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<br><br>-Ivo
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<br>> Would like to get listed: <a href="http://www.playlistar.com" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.playlistar.com</a><br><br>Nice to see you improved on XSPF validity over there.
<br>While it is admittedly a special case this on is still invalid:
<br><br><a href="http://www.playlistar.com/index.php?do=xspf-download&plid=99" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.playlistar.com/index.php?do=xspf-download&plid=99</a><br><br>You can fix it simply by upgrading the version attribute from "0" to "1".
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<br><br>It will take a little while to propagate to the server.
<br><br>On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:09 PM, feha <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26751673&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">feha@...</a>> wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Is there any who is maintaining a xspf.org ?
<br>>
<br>> Would like to get listed <a href="http://feedpixel.com" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://feedpixel.com</a><br>> at : <a href="http://www.xspf.org/applications/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.xspf.org/applications/</a><br>>
<br>> regards
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<br><br>It will take a little while to propagate to the server.
<br><br>On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Playlistar.com Admin
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<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Would like to get listed: <a href="http://www.playlistar.com" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.playlistar.com</a><br>>
<br>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Lucas Gonze <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26751671&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">lucas@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>>
<br>>> Done. See <a href="http://svn.xiph.org/websites/xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://svn.xiph.org/websites/xspf.org/ns/0/</a><br>>>
<br>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Lucas Gonze <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26751671&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">lucas@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>> > Another bit of related site maintenance to be done is to get a grddl
<br>>> > xslt hosted at <a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/</a> you think?
<br>>> >
<br>>> > (<a href="http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/playlist/2008-October/002042.html" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/playlist/2008-October/002042.html</a>)
<br>>> >
<br>>> >
<br>>> >
<br>>> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Lucas Gonze <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26751671&i=3" target="_top" rel="nofollow">lucas.gonze@...</a>>
<br>>> > wrote:
<br>>> >>> Would like to get listed <a href="http://feedpixel.com" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://feedpixel.com</a><br>>> >>
<br>>> >> Neat.
<br>>> >>
<br>>> >>
<br>>> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:09 PM, feha <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26751671&i=4" target="_top" rel="nofollow">feha@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>> >>> Is there any who is maintaining a xspf.org ?
<br>>> >>>
<br>>> >>> Would like to get listed <a href="http://feedpixel.com" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://feedpixel.com</a><br>>> >>> at : <a href="http://www.xspf.org/applications/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.xspf.org/applications/</a><br>>> >>>
<br>>> >>> regards
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<br><a href="http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/playlist" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/playlist</a><br>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26751252Re: xspf.org2009-12-11T12:49:56Z2009-12-11T12:49:56ZPlaylistar.com AdminWould like to get listed: <a href="http://www.playlistar.com" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.playlistar.com</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Lucas Gonze <span dir="ltr"><<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26751252&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">lucas@...</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Done. See <a href="http://svn.xiph.org/websites/xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://svn.xiph.org/websites/xspf.org/ns/0/</a><br>
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On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Lucas Gonze <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26751252&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">lucas@...</a>> wrote:<br>
> Another bit of related site maintenance to be done is to get a grddl<br>
> xslt hosted at <a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/</a> you think?<br>
> (<a href="http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/playlist/2008-October/002042.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/playlist/2008-October/002042.html</a>)<br>
><br>
><br>
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> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Lucas Gonze <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26751252&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">lucas.gonze@...</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Would like to get listed <a href="http://feedpixel.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://feedpixel.com</a><br>
>><br>
>> Neat.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:09 PM, feha <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26751252&i=3" target="_top" rel="nofollow">feha@...</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Is there any who is maintaining a <a href="http://xspf.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">xspf.org</a> ?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Would like to get listed <a href="http://feedpixel.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://feedpixel.com</a><br>
>>> at : <a href="http://www.xspf.org/applications/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.xspf.org/applications/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> regards<br>
>>> feha<br>
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>>><br>
>><br>
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<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Another bit of related site maintenance to be done is to get a grddl
<br>> xslt hosted at <a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/</a> you think?
<br>> (<a href="http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/playlist/2008-October/002042.html" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/playlist/2008-October/002042.html</a>)
<br>>
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<br>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Lucas Gonze <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26751196&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">lucas.gonze@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>>> Would like to get listed <a href="http://feedpixel.com" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://feedpixel.com</a><br>>>
<br>>> Neat.
<br>>>
<br>>>
<br>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:09 PM, feha <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26751196&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">feha@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>>> Is there any who is maintaining a xspf.org ?
<br>>>>
<br>>>> Would like to get listed <a href="http://feedpixel.com" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://feedpixel.com</a><br>>>> at : <a href="http://www.xspf.org/applications/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.xspf.org/applications/</a><br>>>>
<br>>>> regards
<br>>>> feha
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<br><br>Hight points:
<br>* valid XML
<br>* valid XSPF
<br>* uses meta element correctly
<br><br>The rest of this message is a sample.
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<br>> Is there any who is maintaining a xspf.org ?
<br><br>Yes.
<br><br><br>> Would like to get listed <a href="http://feedpixel.com" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://feedpixel.com</a><br>> at : <a href="http://www.xspf.org/applications/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.xspf.org/applications/</a><br><br>Can you help me with a description of the site and its use of XSPF?
<br>That would speed me up.
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<br>xslt hosted at <a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/</a> you think?
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<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>> Would like to get listed <a href="http://feedpixel.com" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://feedpixel.com</a><br>>
<br>> Neat.
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:09 PM, feha <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26652545&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">feha@...</a>> wrote:
<br>>> Is there any who is maintaining a xspf.org ?
<br>>>
<br>>> Would like to get listed <a href="http://feedpixel.com" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://feedpixel.com</a><br>>> at : <a href="http://www.xspf.org/applications/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.xspf.org/applications/</a><br>>>
<br>>> regards
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<br><br><br>On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:09 PM, feha <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26650804&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">feha@...</a>> wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Is there any who is maintaining a xspf.org ?
<br>>
<br>> Would like to get listed <a href="http://feedpixel.com" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://feedpixel.com</a><br>> at : <a href="http://www.xspf.org/applications/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.xspf.org/applications/</a><br>>
<br>> regards
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is there any who is maintaining a xspf.org
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would like to get listed <A href="http://feedpixel.com" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://feedpixel.com</A> </FONT></DIV>
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<br><br>A big day for XSPF.
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<br><br>Definitely an obscure point.
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<br><?xml version="1.0"?>
<br><playlist version="1" xmlns="<a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/</a>">
<br> <trackList>
<br> <track xml:id="<a href="http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/logicgate-silence" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/logicgate-silence</a>">
<br> <title><![CDATA[Code Red]]></title>
<br> </track>
<br> </trackList>
<br></playlist>
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<br>The validator flags an error on xml:id
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<br><br>Error protocol:
<br>Line Col Error
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<br>4 3 Attribute '<a href="http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace</a> id' not allowed.
<br><br><?xml version="1.0"?>
<br><playlist version="1" xmlns="<a href="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org/ns/0/</a>">
<br> <trackList>
<br> <track xml:id="<a href="http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/logicgate-silence" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/logicgate-silence</a>">
<br> <creator><![CDATA[Logic Gate]]></creator>
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<br><image><![CDATA[<a href="http://magnatune.com//artists/img/logicgatephoto.jpg" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://magnatune.com//artists/img/logicgatephoto.jpg</a>]]></image>
<br>
<br><info><![CDATA[<a href="http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/logicgate-silence" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/logicgate-silence</a>]]></info>
<br>
<br><location><![CDATA[<a href="http://he3.magnatune.com/all/01-Code%20Red-Logic%20Gate.mp3" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://he3.magnatune.com/all/01-Code%20Red-Logic%20Gate.mp3</a>]]></location>
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Robert Buchholz wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi Tom
I took the liberty of replying on-list. Your mail is fully quoted below,
plus replies inline.
</pre>
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No problem.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:200904161524.35793.rbu@gentoo.org" type="cite">
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<pre wrap="">It's not my site that has the issue.
</pre>
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Do you mean you are not running trbailey.net, or do you mean that
trbailey.net is not causing the problem? If the latter, then I
disagree. You cannot install a filter on your site and then behave as
if others misbehaved and got caught by the filter.
Which RFC or other standard has been violated?
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Courtesy and unrealistic expectation.<br>
It's unrealistic to think or expect people in the big bit
pool not to use UA screening as a tool. <br>
Every other major bot script that requests pages or files identifies
itself via the user agent string with a url back to it's origin.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:200904161524.35793.rbu@gentoo.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">The script clearly identifies itself. It is a Python 2.5 script, and it
is using urllib2 to download the content.
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I disagree. It's xspf.org that's downloading the content, not the
script. The script is a non-entity agent, a tool used to facilitate the
download. Furthermore; Presenting the language of the script as a user
agent appears as obfuscation to the average webmaster dufus like me. If
you're the author you must have considered the consequences of a robot
downloader operating with a default UA string, especially in this day
and age when so many kids use ready-made irc-bot scripts to infest the
information highways of the world. A default UA string, IMHO, is like a
"highwayman leaping from the bushes" on the road to London.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:200904161524.35793.rbu@gentoo.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap=""> </pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">User
agent blocking is not the only tool and generally only partially
successful. But since implementing domain and UA blocking I no longer
see my domain appear in "free music" playlists. It's but one tiny
tool in a larger toolbox. It's my bandwidth I'm most interested in
protecting, not site content. I'm not concerned if someone wants a
copy of a file. They are welcome to download it the same way I did.
/I'm concerned when a commercial ad server like dizzler wraps my
bandwidth in advertising to make money/. If I see 500 hits from one
ua/domain and it's been downloading for hours I can safely assume
it's not a regular user. But that might not apply to all sites. UA
screening works well for me, but it won't for everyone.
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">While it is possible to alter the User-Agent HTTP header using
urllib2 in Python, I would recommend you rethink your filters, work
around the problems you are causing (by downloading the file
yourself and use the file upload) or submit a patch.
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">I'm not sure if you understand the context in which this discussion
is occurring.
I'm not attempting to download or acquire a file.
</pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->
Maybe I was unclear here. I meant that to work around the User-Agent
filter, you can download the XSPF file from the site in question and
submit it to the validator using its "File Upload" field.
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<b>Context:</b><br>
I'm working on a dynamic playlist generator so the content in question
is a dynamic playlist and it's obviously on my site. I submitted a URL
that
failed to download because I don't allow unfettered access to my site
by unidentified or known pirate scripts. I think it's more courteous
and correct to
clearly identify the site that requests the file, not just the tool
being used to request it. In the end it either works or it
doesn't. I can add an exception for now but I think it prudent to plan
for
such a change in the future.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:200904161524.35793.rbu@gentoo.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap=""> </pre>
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<pre wrap="">I'm asking if the author of the validator at spiff dot com can or
will alter the user agent he's using to GET pages to be validated.
I have no idea what you mean when you say submit a patch?
Patch for what, his custom spiff validator?
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That is what I meant. The validator is open source.
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I wasn't aware it was. I've seen no references on the site to obtaining
the source but I haven't been looking. As far as I know xspf.org is the
only installation.<br>
I'm not a python programmer but I'll be happy to submit a patch that
IMHO properly identifies the site requester with it's ip or domain and
an optional url.<br>
I'm not terribly familiar with patches but I'll muddle through. It
can't be much different from SVN updates.<br>
Thanks for the info and the chat.<br>
-Tom<br>
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<br><br>I took the liberty of replying on-list. Your mail is fully quoted below,
<br>plus replies inline.
<br><br>On Thursday 16 April 2009, Tom wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Robert Buchholz wrote:
<br>> > On Thursday 16 April 2009, Tom wrote:
<br>> >> Are you using| libwww-perl |or| ||Python-urllib/2 |or even |PHP/5
<br>> >> |to GET the playlist?|
<br>> >>
<br>> >> |You might think about changing the user agent in your script to
<br>> >>
<br>> >> /spiff(+<a href="http://xspf.org)/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org)/</a> or /xspf(+<a href="http://xspf.org)/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org)/</a>. All of
<br>> >> these scripting languages are used extensively with unadulterated
<br>> >> user agent strings to unmercifully hack at web servers all over
<br>> >> cyberspace. I've had to block them as user agents to protect my
<br>> >> files and bandwidth as have many many other people.
<br>> >
<br>> > Installing protection based on User-Agents is most harmful.
<br>>
<br>> I don't think I understand why you think it's harmful. Less than
<br>> effective, perhaps but harmful?
<br>> The only other alternative is to stop serving files. I'm not
<br>> protecting content, only bandwidth.
</div></div>It is harmful because it is causing non-obvious failures for people
<br>without malicious intent. It is costs time and causes frustration.
<br><br><br>> If a person can use content, they can make a copy of it.
<br>>
<br>> > You will
<br>> > unnecessarily cause pain for users of your site (such as people
<br>> > using RSS readers), yourself and others (as seen here).
<br>>
<br>> It's not my site that has the issue.
<br><br>Do you mean you are not running trbailey.net, or do you mean that
<br>trbailey.net is not causing the problem? If the latter, then I
<br>disagree. You cannot install a filter on your site and then behave as
<br>if others misbehaved and got caught by the filter.
<br>Which RFC or other standard has been violated?
<br><br>> > Furthermore, you
<br>> > probably miss most of the "attacks" on your site because they are
<br>> > shadowed by people who know how to alter the User-Agent and will
<br>> > pop up as some Windows XP Internet Explorer in your stats.
<br>>
<br>> That's a nice philosophy and possibly correct, however, /any script
<br>> that does not clearly identify itself is asking to be blocked/.
<br><br>The script clearly identifies itself. It is a Python 2.5 script, and it
<br>is using urllib2 to download the content.
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> User
<br>> agent blocking is not the only tool and generally only partially
<br>> successful. But since implementing domain and UA blocking I no longer
<br>> see my domain appear in "free music" playlists. It's but one tiny
<br>> tool in a larger toolbox. It's my bandwidth I'm most interested in
<br>> protecting, not site content. I'm not concerned if someone wants a
<br>> copy of a file. They are welcome to download it the same way I did.
<br>> /I'm concerned when a commercial ad server like dizzler wraps my
<br>> bandwidth in advertising to make money/. If I see 500 hits from one
<br>> ua/domain and it's been downloading for hours I can safely assume
<br>> it's not a regular user. But that might not apply to all sites. UA
<br>> screening works well for me, but it won't for everyone.
<br>>
<br>> > While it is possible to alter the User-Agent HTTP header using
<br>> > urllib2 in Python, I would recommend you rethink your filters, work
<br>> > around the problems you are causing (by downloading the file
<br>> > yourself and use the file upload) or submit a patch.
<br>>
<br>> I'm not sure if you understand the context in which this discussion
<br>> is occurring.
<br>> I'm not attempting to download or acquire a file.
</div></div>Maybe I was unclear here. I meant that to work around the User-Agent
<br>filter, you can download the XSPF file from the site in question and
<br>submit it to the validator using its "File Upload" field.
<br><br><br><br>> I'm asking if the author of the validator at spiff dot com can or
<br>> will alter the user agent he's using to GET pages to be validated.
<br>>
<br>> I have no idea what you mean when you say submit a patch?
<br>> Patch for what, his custom spiff validator?
<br><br>That is what I meant. The validator is open source.
<br><br>> -Tom
<br><br><br>Robert
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<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Are you using| libwww-perl |or| ||Python-urllib/2 |or even |PHP/5 |to
<br>> GET the playlist?|
<br>>
<br>> |You might think about changing the user agent in your script to
<br>>
<br>> /spiff(+<a href="http://xspf.org)/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org)/</a> or /xspf(+<a href="http://xspf.org)/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://xspf.org)/</a>. All of these
<br>> scripting languages are used extensively with unadulterated user
<br>> agent strings to unmercifully hack at web servers all over
<br>> cyberspace. I've had to block them as user agents to protect my files
<br>> and bandwidth as have many many other people.
</div><br>Installing protection based on User-Agents is most harmful. You will
<br>unnecessarily cause pain for users of your site (such as people using
<br>RSS readers), yourself and others (as seen here). Furthermore, you
<br>probably miss most of the "attacks" on your site because they are
<br>shadowed by people who know how to alter the User-Agent and will pop up
<br>as some Windows XP Internet Explorer in your stats.
<br><br>While it is possible to alter the User-Agent HTTP header using urllib2
<br>in Python, I would recommend you rethink your filters, work around the
<br>problems you are causing (by downloading the file yourself and use the
<br>file upload) or submit a patch.
<br><br><br><br>Robert
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Sebastian, I just noticed something.<br>
<br>
Are you using<code> libwww-perl </code>or<code> </code><code>Python-urllib/2
</code>or even <code>PHP/5 </code>to GET the playlist?<code><br>
</code>You might think about changing the user agent in your script to <i>spiff(+http://xspf.org)</i>
or <i>xspf(+http://xspf.org)</i>. All of these scripting languages are
used extensively with unadulterated user agent strings to unmercifully
hack at web servers all over cyberspace.
I've had to block them as user agents to protect my files and bandwidth
as have many many other people.<br>
<br>
Examples I found are here:<br>
Perl: <code><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://kobesearch.cpan.org/htdocs/libwww-perl/LWP/UserAgent.html" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://kobesearch.cpan.org/htdocs/libwww-perl/LWP/UserAgent.html</a></code><br>
Python: <code><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://diveintopython.org/http_web_services/user_agent.html" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://diveintopython.org/http_web_services/user_agent.html</a><br>
</code>PHP: <code><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.seopher.com/articles/how_to_change_your_php_user_agent_to_avoid_being_blocked_when_using_curl" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.seopher.com/articles/how_to_change_your_php_user_agent_to_avoid_being_blocked_when_using_curl</a><br>
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-Tom<br>
xspfphp.sourceforge.net<br>
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Sebastian Pipping wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:49E6306F.6020806@hartwork.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Tom wrote:
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">I got this recently when trying to validate a playlist.
What does this mean and why does it occur?
This url works fine <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.trbailey.net/playlist" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.trbailey.net/playlist</a>
But this tosses the error: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.trbailey.net/xspf/xspf.php" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.trbailey.net/xspf/xspf.php</a>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->
I get "Could not download from URL." for that one, instead.
It works fine in a browser so I guess you do user agent
detection in your PHP script?
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Nope, no user detection in my script, it's a playlist generator. It
wouldn't make any difference anyway. <i>It's the validator that's
making the request to my server</i>, not my script to the validator.
It's not the playlist itself or the domain name. The /playlist url
comes from the same server and it works fine. It's named "index.php"
rather than xspf.php if that makes a difference. <br>
<br>
Did you make some recent changes to validation or .htaccess files?<br>
Most of all is the curiosity that it worked last time I tested it about
two weeks ago.<br>
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<pre wrap="">
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">Download location not considered safe.
Please do /not/ attack this site. Thanks.*
Is is the .php extension or what?
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No. The validator only accepts URLs with the schemes HTTPS and HTTPS.
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You mean http and https?<br>
Both urls above qualify. Are you sure it's not barfing on the
"xspf.php" as a file?<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:49E6306F.6020806@hartwork.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">This restricting is mainly in place to deny using <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="file://" target="_top" rel="nofollow">file://</a> URIs
so poeple cannot read file from the server's local hard disc.
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I've dealt with the file issue myself. I've had the best luck using
server config to deny certain domains and/or user agents.<br>
I wrote a short article on the basics a couple days ago and I updated
it today if you're interested. <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.trbailey.net/xspf/protection.html" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.trbailey.net/xspf/protection.html</a><br>
<br>
But it's not much good if it won't validate valid playlist files.<br>
-Tom<br>
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<br>> I got this recently when trying to validate a playlist.
<br>> What does this mean and why does it occur?
<br>>
<br>> This url works fine <a href="http://www.trbailey.net/playlist" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.trbailey.net/playlist</a><br>> But this tosses the error: <a href="http://www.trbailey.net/xspf/xspf.php" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.trbailey.net/xspf/xspf.php</a><br><br>I get "Could not download from URL." for that one, instead.
<br>It works fine in a browser so I guess you do user agent
<br>detection in your PHP script?
<br><br><br>> Download location not considered safe.
<br>> Please do /not/ attack this site. Thanks.*
<br>>
<br>> Is is the .php extension or what?
<br><br>No. The validator only accepts URLs with the schemes HTTPS and HTTPS.
<br>This restricting is mainly in place to deny using file:// URIs
<br>so poeple cannot read file from the server's local hard disc.
<br><br>If you're familiar with Python the validator's source code [1]
<br>might be of interest to you.
<br><br>Thanks for using the validator!
<br><br><br><br>Sebastian
<br><br><br>[1] <a href="https://trac.xiph.org/browser/websites/validator.xspf.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">https://trac.xiph.org/browser/websites/validator.xspf.org/</a><br><br>_______________________________________________
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I got this recently when trying to validate a playlist.<br>
What does this mean and why does it occur?<br>
<br>
This url works fine <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.trbailey.net/playlist" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.trbailey.net/playlist</a><br>
But this tosses the error: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.trbailey.net/xspf/xspf.php" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.trbailey.net/xspf/xspf.php</a><br>
<b style="color: red;"><br>
Download location not considered safe.<br>
Please do <em>not</em> attack this site. Thanks.</b><br>
<br>
Is is the .php extension or what?<br>
-Tom <br>
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