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by Haris Custovic :: Rate this Message:

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Hi guys

I am new to the list and to NM but not new to modular syntesis, used Reaktor for years now.
Downloaded all the patches I could find on the net and in the process of sorting them out.
I wanted to find out what would be the best way to call up different patterns for sequencers and changing them real time?
Thank you

Harry Belafonte


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Re: NM1 patterns

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What do you mean by call up?
Everything on the NM is from the ground up.  I suppose if you find someone with a patch that has a bunch of sequencer modules linked together, you could use that as a starting point and put in your own note sequences.
I recommend reading the manual from start to finish, and also have a look at this:
http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmodularbook/nm_book_toc.html
There are usually a bunch of different ways to accomplish any one task on the NM.

Hope that helps a little

Matt

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Haris Custovic <grooveguru@...> wrote:
Hi guys

I am new to the list and to NM but not new to modular syntesis, used Reaktor for years now.
Downloaded all the patches I could find on the net and in the process of sorting them out.
I wanted to find out what would be the best way to call up different patterns for sequencers and changing them real time?
Thank you

Harry Belafonte


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Re: NM1 patterns

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Welcome!
I think:
Either make separate sequences with discrete seq modules and between  
switch them, or use the "variations".

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:24:44 +0100, Haris Custovic <grooveguru@...>  
wrote:

> Hi guys
>
> I am new to the list and to NM but not new to modular syntesis, used  
> Reaktor for years now.
> Downloaded all the patches I could find on the net and in the process of  
> sorting them out.
> I wanted to find out what would be the best way to call up different  
> patterns for sequencers and changing them real time?
> Thank you
>
> Harry Belafonte


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Betr: NM1 patterns

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Hi Harry,

i have written a little thingy about this in:
http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/Modularzone/Roland%27sRhythmProg/DanceTechnoDrbass.html
so have a look there:)
A very extended dvd for working with the G2(Demo) will be comming out shortly.

Best,
Roland

>
>
>Hi guys
>
>I am new to the list and to NM but not new to modular syntesis, used Reaktor
>for years now.
>Downloaded all the patches I could find on the net and in the process of
>sorting them out.
>I wanted to find out what would be the best way to call up different patterns
>for sequencers and changing them real time?
>Thank you
>
>Harry Belafonte
>
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EMS

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Hi there,

I've just got myself a nord modular classic with 25 keys. i'm pretty  
excited having a modular synth and want to start as soon as i get time  
to learn the nm. i was just wondering if anyone had made emulations to  
the ems vcs3 or the aks and are willing to share? i know that maybe  
certain things are not possible to build e.g. a matrix (or am i  
wrong?) but any patches that i can look into and learn would be great.

thanks

Dennis
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Betr: EMS

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Hi, yes i made one, but it is for the G2
>
>
>Hi there,
>
>I've just got myself a nord modular classic with 25 keys. i'm pretty  
>excited having a modular synth and want to start as soon as i get time

>to learn the nm. i was just wondering if anyone had made emulations to

>the ems vcs3 or the aks and are willing to share? i know that maybe  
>certain things are not possible to build e.g. a matrix (or am i  
>wrong?) but any patches that i can look into and learn would be great.
>
>thanks
>
>Dennis
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Re: Betr: EMS

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I haven't made any like that specifically, but you might try looking through the patch archives: http://nm-archives.electro-music.com/010_NordModular/
You'll find all kinds of great stuff in there that you should be able to learn from.
Also, this online book: http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmodularbook/nm_book_toc.html
Covers a whole slew of techniques for programming the nm.

Welcome!

Matt

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Roland Kuit <roland.kuit@...> wrote:

Hi, yes i made one, but it is for the G2
>
>
>Hi there,
>
>I've just got myself a nord modular classic with 25 keys. i'm pretty
>excited having a modular synth and want to start as soon as i get time

>to learn the nm. i was just wondering if anyone had made emulations to

>the ems vcs3 or the aks and are willing to share? i know that maybe
>certain things are not possible to build e.g. a matrix (or am i
>wrong?) but any patches that i can look into and learn would be great.
>
>thanks
>
>Dennis
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Parent Message unknown Re: EMS

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Hi!

What part/s from the VCS3/AKS do you want to emulate?

The matrix can be done, just not visually but using many switches and mixers.
Three VCOs no problem at all, a 12 dB filter is no problem either but it will
not sound like a diode filter.
A selftriggering ENV can certainly be done, reverb... well not with a G1..
but you can route sound out to a reverb and then back in again.


/Per

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Re: EMS

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If you have a NM1 and you want to do a Synthi clone, one of the things  
you will have to do is add a joystick. There is a article somewhere on  
the net but it is quite easy to do if you have a DIY nature. Basically  
the pots on the front panel are only passing voltages that are read by  
the Nord's circuitry. All you have to do is pop her open and unsolder  
two pots and wire in a joystick instead. There is space in the upper  
corner to mount the joystick. You can put in a switch to switch  
between the joystick and the original pots if you want and if you want  
to put in a gate pushbutton, just wire it to the footswitch jack. The  
NM1 is a great box for performance mods. The pots can be replaced by  
anything that produces or controls voltages in the same range and they  
are scanned at a pretty fast rate so can keep up with most manual  
tweaking.
-james


On Jan 19, 2009, at 1:56 AM, sonic.kitchen wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I've just got myself a nord modular classic with 25 keys. i'm pretty
> excited having a modular synth and want to start as soon as i get time
> to learn the nm. i was just wondering if anyone had made emulations to
> the ems vcs3 or the aks and are willing to share? i know that maybe
> certain things are not possible to build e.g. a matrix (or am i
> wrong?) but any patches that i can look into and learn would be great.
>
> thanks
>
> Dennis
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Re: EMS

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Congrats!  Be sure to download all of the free patches - thousands
on the internet.  Doug

...You might consider getting an X/Y controller pad, like a Korg Kaoss
on eBay.
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Re: EMS

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The nm is a digital synth..
and therefore its difficult to have emulations sound the same or  
similar to analog originals...
Its however very educativ to try to clone an analog original with the  
nord... you learn quite a lot why analog synths are so different..
But to do that you need an original next to you to have at least a  
slight chance to capture some of the originals character..
most often you dont really get there...but the way to it can be fun..

with a synth like the ems its pretty useless to copy the matrix... you  
have the cabeling in the nord.. which is even more flexibel...


to cover the character of an ems is rather difficult with the NM  
because the digital limitations... The beayty of the original EMS is  
very much related to its OSC´s,
that have a rather scientiv quality... clean waveforms above 50  
Khz...no problem...
To cover sounds that use the highfreq range of an ems is probably  
impossible on the nord... even when it has a very high intermal  
resolution.
It was measured that an NM can produce a clean sinus up to 48  
khz...what is pretty good for a digital synth... but ... not enough to  
get fully the sonic purity of an analog synth... especially fm  
modulated sounds cant get so clean or complex as with analog synths.  
And the EMS is rather a fm monster than a bass syntheziser

Compared with the analog syntheziser world the NM is closer related to  
something like a prophet 5...

Somhow the first nord lead was reffering a bit to the prophet 5..
and i found it easier to clone curtis chip designs with the NM than  
other analog synths...
So to get exact EMS and Roland sounds is rather difficult, while  
oberheim sci style sounds sometimes just work straight out with  
stnadard modules without special soundshaping and fatening...


You  will see that the NM represents a full blown wall of syntheziser  
modules and simulates the process of patching a real anlog modular  
very good...
So you defenetly have a cance to feel the zen of patching even when  
its just digital.


Its however good to learn some of mentioned sound fatening tricks  
about the nord...

something like: use a chorus to modulate something.. or build little 1  
sample feedback loops with a mixer or crossfader module.

There is lots to find about such tricks in the tutorials about NM1 and  
G2...

The two machines are very similar regarding the process off  
patching... So publikations for one of the machines are in big parts  
interesting for the other machine aswell.



TH NM shows it strongest sides when you patch wild modulations in  
sequenced paterns ...something where you would need on a real analog  
Modular at least 4 stepsequencers...

So only something the very ritch analog modular owner could patch...  
i only have seen one real analog modular wih 4 step sequencers so  
far... most are called big systems when they have 2 of them...


And.. to finish the longest post i had on the list for years ;-)



It needs some time to get the nm sound they way that you enjoy the  
sound...but it can reach a very interesting type of crunchiness, that  
makes it sometimes as original sounding as a real analog.

Like allways in the digital domain this needs more work than with  
analog beeings..

But i gueess you will like the machine after you got over the learning  
curve.

good luck
s





Am 19.01.2009 um 10:56 schrieb sonic.kitchen:

> Hi there,
>
> I've just got myself a nord modular classic with 25 keys. i'm pretty
> excited having a modular synth and want to start as soon as i get time
> to learn the nm. i was just wondering if anyone had made emulations to
> the ems vcs3 or the aks and are willing to share? i know that maybe
> certain things are not possible to build e.g. a matrix (or am i
> wrong?) but any patches that i can look into and learn would be great.
>
> thanks
>
> Dennis
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Re: EMS

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I completely agree regarding the similarity to the Prophet 5, it's surprisingly easy to make some convincing p5 sounds on the nm  :)

Matt

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Sven Roehrig <nord@...> wrote:
The nm is a digital synth..
and therefore its difficult to have emulations sound the same or
similar to analog originals...
Its however very educativ to try to clone an analog original with the
nord... you learn quite a lot why analog synths are so different..
But to do that you need an original next to you to have at least a
slight chance to capture some of the originals character..
most often you dont really get there...but the way to it can be fun..

with a synth like the ems its pretty useless to copy the matrix... you
have the cabeling in the nord.. which is even more flexibel...


to cover the character of an ems is rather difficult with the NM
because the digital limitations... The beayty of the original EMS is
very much related to its OSC´s,
that have a rather scientiv quality... clean waveforms above 50
Khz...no problem...
To cover sounds that use the highfreq range of an ems is probably
impossible on the nord... even when it has a very high intermal
resolution.
It was measured that an NM can produce a clean sinus up to 48
khz...what is pretty good for a digital synth... but ... not enough to
get fully the sonic purity of an analog synth... especially fm
modulated sounds cant get so clean or complex as with analog synths.
And the EMS is rather a fm monster than a bass syntheziser

Compared with the analog syntheziser world the NM is closer related to
something like a prophet 5...

Somhow the first nord lead was reffering a bit to the prophet 5..
and i found it easier to clone curtis chip designs with the NM than
other analog synths...
So to get exact EMS and Roland sounds is rather difficult, while
oberheim sci style sounds sometimes just work straight out with
stnadard modules without special soundshaping and fatening...


You  will see that the NM represents a full blown wall of syntheziser
modules and simulates the process of patching a real anlog modular
very good...
So you defenetly have a cance to feel the zen of patching even when
its just digital.


Its however good to learn some of mentioned sound fatening tricks
about the nord...

something like: use a chorus to modulate something.. or build little 1
sample feedback loops with a mixer or crossfader module.

There is lots to find about such tricks in the tutorials about NM1 and
G2...

The two machines are very similar regarding the process off
patching... So publikations for one of the machines are in big parts
interesting for the other machine aswell.



TH NM shows it strongest sides when you patch wild modulations in
sequenced paterns ...something where you would need on a real analog
Modular at least 4 stepsequencers...

So only something the very ritch analog modular owner could patch...
i only have seen one real analog modular wih 4 step sequencers so
far... most are called big systems when they have 2 of them...


And.. to finish the longest post i had on the list for years ;-)



It needs some time to get the nm sound they way that you enjoy the
sound...but it can reach a very interesting type of crunchiness, that
makes it sometimes as original sounding as a real analog.

Like allways in the digital domain this needs more work than with
analog beeings..

But i gueess you will like the machine after you got over the learning
curve.

good luck
s





Am 19.01.2009 um 10:56 schrieb sonic.kitchen:

> Hi there,
>
> I've just got myself a nord modular classic with 25 keys. i'm pretty
> excited having a modular synth and want to start as soon as i get time
> to learn the nm. i was just wondering if anyone had made emulations to
> the ems vcs3 or the aks and are willing to share? i know that maybe
> certain things are not possible to build e.g. a matrix (or am i
> wrong?) but any patches that i can look into and learn would be great.
>
> thanks
>
> Dennis
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Re: EMS

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Sven Roehrig wrote:
> And.. to finish the longest post i had on the list for years ;-)
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>  
You just this minute realized you were also born on a Friday, right?!!!!

With every good wish,
(K)ofi (B)usia

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Re: EMS

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:-D

Wout

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Betr: Re: EMS

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a very good emulation of the ems is from ZooTook, a Reaktor ensemble.
this one is great.

>
>
>The nm is a digital synth..
>and therefore its difficult to have emulations sound the same or  
>similar to analog originals...
>Its however very educativ to try to clone an analog original with the  
>nord... you learn quite a lot why analog synths are so different..
>But to do that you need an original next to you to have at least a  
>slight chance to capture some of the originals character..
>most often you dont really get there...but the way to it can be fun..
>
>with a synth like the ems its pretty useless to copy the matrix... you

>have the cabeling in the nord.. which is even more flexibel...
>
>
>to cover the character of an ems is rather difficult with the NM  
>because the digital limitations... The beayty of the original EMS is  
>very much related to its OSC?s,
>that have a rather scientiv quality... clean waveforms above 50  
>Khz...no problem...
>To cover sounds that use the highfreq range of an ems is probably  
>impossible on the nord... even when it has a very high intermal  
>resolution.
>It was measured that an NM can produce a clean sinus up to 48  
>khz...what is pretty good for a digital synth... but ... not enough to

>get fully the sonic purity of an analog synth... especially fm  
>modulated sounds cant get so clean or complex as with analog synths.  
>And the EMS is rather a fm monster than a bass syntheziser
>
>Compared with the analog syntheziser world the NM is closer related to

>something like a prophet 5...
>
>Somhow the first nord lead was reffering a bit to the prophet 5..
>and i found it easier to clone curtis chip designs with the NM than  
>other analog synths...
>So to get exact EMS and Roland sounds is rather difficult, while  
>oberheim sci style sounds sometimes just work straight out with  
>stnadard modules without special soundshaping and fatening...
>
>
>You  will see that the NM represents a full blown wall of syntheziser  
>modules and simulates the process of patching a real anlog modular  
>very good...
>So you defenetly have a cance to feel the zen of patching even when  
>its just digital.
>
>
>Its however good to learn some of mentioned sound fatening tricks  
>about the nord...
>
>something like: use a chorus to modulate something.. or build little 1

>sample feedback loops with a mixer or crossfader module.
>
>There is lots to find about such tricks in the tutorials about NM1 and

>G2...
>
>The two machines are very similar regarding the process off  
>patching... So publikations for one of the machines are in big parts  
>interesting for the other machine aswell.
>
>
>
>TH NM shows it strongest sides when you patch wild modulations in  
>sequenced paterns ...something where you would need on a real analog  
>Modular at least 4 stepsequencers...
>
>So only something the very ritch analog modular owner could patch...  
>i only have seen one real analog modular wih 4 step sequencers so  
>far... most are called big systems when they have 2 of them...
>
>
>And.. to finish the longest post i had on the list for years ;-)
>
>
>
>It needs some time to get the nm sound they way that you enjoy the  
>sound...but it can reach a very interesting type of crunchiness, that  
>makes it sometimes as original sounding as a real analog.
>
>Like allways in the digital domain this needs more work than with  
>analog beeings..
>
>But i gueess you will like the machine after you got over the learning

>curve.
>
>good luck
>s
>
>
>
>
>
>Am 19.01.2009 um 10:56 schrieb sonic.kitchen:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I've just got myself a nord modular classic with 25 keys. i'm pretty
>> excited having a modular synth and want to start as soon as i get time
>> to learn the nm. i was just wondering if anyone had made emulations to
>> the ems vcs3 or the aks and are willing to share? i know that maybe
>> certain things are not possible to build e.g. a matrix (or am i
>> wrong?) but any patches that i can look into and learn would be great.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Dennis
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Re: EMS

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Hi Dennis,
 
congrats on the NM!
 
Yes indeed it is possible to create a matrix circuit in the NM. I am attaching a couple of example patches. One of them has an 8-in, 12-out matrix (the twelve 8-channel mixers) that is used to route control signals from eight sources to 12 destinations. It is more versatile than a pin matrix because it has a level control for each patch point in the matrix, not just an on/off control (pin in or pin out).
 
The other patch is a matrix of four different osc sources routed to four different filter types, again with a level control at each matrix point, but each of the 16 matrix points is automated  with an LFO and a VCA instead of just a knob, so you get a constantly changing mix of oscs going to each filter for a sound that slowly mutates as you hold the note.
 
But on the bigger question of emulating an entire VCS-3 in a NM patch, it may be possible, but I think it may be more work than necessary. What I mean is, many aspects of various hardware synths are incorporated simply as a means to address issues of user interface, like the patch pin matrix, or the way some synths may have a four-input selector switch for a mod input knob on a filter or oscillator. Since you can just patch anything to anything on the NM, there is no need to intentionally build in elements like this that really just limit the patching possibilities and use up extra DSP power. Adding all those selector switches etc. may be a good exercise in learning how to patch the NM, but it doesn't do anything to make it SOUND more like the instrument you are trying to emulate.
 
I think a better approach is to try to emulate just certain aspects of an instruments sound, like tweaking a filter with various tips & tricks to get it to sound more like a VCS-3 filter, and figuring out how to make the oscillators sound more like VCS-3 oscillators, and then you can patch them together just like the VCS-3 or in all kinds of ways that are not even possible on the real VCS-3. Maybe with a couple of additional filters... and five extra LFOs with new waveforms.... you get the idea.  
 
I did a project like this a few years ago, to emulate the oscs & filters in my Rhodes Chroma, and the results were very satisfying. I ended up with a set of 'template' patches that just have these osc & filter emulations and act as starting points for building complete patches that sound like the Chroma, and I can then graft on extra modules and features that the real Chroma doesn't have.
 
Enjoy!
 
Dave Peck
  

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, sonic.kitchen <sonic.kitchen@...> wrote:
From: sonic.kitchen <sonic.kitchen@...>
Subject: [NM] EMS
To: "Nord Modular mailing list" <nord-modular@...>
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 1:56 AM

Hi there,

I've just got myself a nord modular classic with 25 keys. i'm pretty  
excited having a modular synth and want to start as soon as i get time  
to learn the nm. i was just wondering if anyone had made emulations to  
the ems vcs3 or the aks and are willing to share? i know that maybe  
certain things are not possible to build e.g. a matrix (or am i  
wrong?) but any patches that i can look into and learn would be great.

thanks

Dennis
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Re: Betr: EMS

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thanks! i will check it as soon as i get time out for that.

Dennis
Am 19.01.2009 um 15:38 schrieb Matthew Wright:

I haven't made any like that specifically, but you might try looking through the patch archives: http://nm-archives.electro-music.com/010_NordModular/
You'll find all kinds of great stuff in there that you should be able to learn from.
Also, this online book: http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmodularbook/nm_book_toc.html
Covers a whole slew of techniques for programming the nm.

Welcome!

Matt

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Roland Kuit <roland.kuit@...> wrote:

Hi, yes i made one, but it is for the G2
>
>
>Hi there,
>
>I've just got myself a nord modular classic with 25 keys. i'm pretty
>excited having a modular synth and want to start as soon as i get time

>to learn the nm. i was just wondering if anyone had made emulations to

>the ems vcs3 or the aks and are willing to share? i know that maybe
>certain things are not possible to build e.g. a matrix (or am i
>wrong?) but any patches that i can look into and learn would be great.
>
>thanks
>
>Dennis
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Re: EMS

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ah. i just finished building a doepfer usb 64 and i could use the  
joystick to switch between potis. thanks!

Dennis
Am 19.01.2009 um 20:05 schrieb James Husted:

> If you have a NM1 and you want to do a Synthi clone, one of the things
> you will have to do is add a joystick. There is a article somewhere on
> the net but it is quite easy to do if you have a DIY nature. Basically
> the pots on the front panel are only passing voltages that are read by
> the Nord's circuitry. All you have to do is pop her open and unsolder
> two pots and wire in a joystick instead. There is space in the upper
> corner to mount the joystick. You can put in a switch to switch
> between the joystick and the original pots if you want and if you want
> to put in a gate pushbutton, just wire it to the footswitch jack. The
> NM1 is a great box for performance mods. The pots can be replaced by
> anything that produces or controls voltages in the same range and they
> are scanned at a pretty fast rate so can keep up with most manual
> tweaking.
> -james
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2009, at 1:56 AM, sonic.kitchen wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I've just got myself a nord modular classic with 25 keys. i'm pretty
>> excited having a modular synth and want to start as soon as i get  
>> time
>> to learn the nm. i was just wondering if anyone had made emulations  
>> to
>> the ems vcs3 or the aks and are willing to share? i know that maybe
>> certain things are not possible to build e.g. a matrix (or am i
>> wrong?) but any patches that i can look into and learn would be  
>> great.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Dennis
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Re: Betr: EMS

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hi,

could you make a sceenshot of the modules you use?

Dennis
Am 19.01.2009 um 15:19 schrieb Roland Kuit:

>
> Hi, yes i made one, but it is for the G2
>>
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I've just got myself a nord modular classic with 25 keys. i'm pretty
>> excited having a modular synth and want to start as soon as i get  
>> time
>
>> to learn the nm. i was just wondering if anyone had made emulations  
>> to
>
>> the ems vcs3 or the aks and are willing to share? i know that maybe
>> certain things are not possible to build e.g. a matrix (or am i
>> wrong?) but any patches that i can look into and learn would be  
>> great.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Dennis
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Re: EMS

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danke sehr informativ!

grüße

Dennis
Am 19.01.2009 um 21:25 schrieb Sven Roehrig:

> The nm is a digital synth..
> and therefore its difficult to have emulations sound the same or
> similar to analog originals...
> Its however very educativ to try to clone an analog original with the
> nord... you learn quite a lot why analog synths are so different..
> But to do that you need an original next to you to have at least a
> slight chance to capture some of the originals character..
> most often you dont really get there...but the way to it can be fun..
>
> with a synth like the ems its pretty useless to copy the matrix... you
> have the cabeling in the nord.. which is even more flexibel...
>
>
> to cover the character of an ems is rather difficult with the NM
> because the digital limitations... The beayty of the original EMS is
> very much related to its OSC´s,
> that have a rather scientiv quality... clean waveforms above 50
> Khz...no problem...
> To cover sounds that use the highfreq range of an ems is probably
> impossible on the nord... even when it has a very high intermal
> resolution.
> It was measured that an NM can produce a clean sinus up to 48
> khz...what is pretty good for a digital synth... but ... not enough to
> get fully the sonic purity of an analog synth... especially fm
> modulated sounds cant get so clean or complex as with analog synths.
> And the EMS is rather a fm monster than a bass syntheziser
>
> Compared with the analog syntheziser world the NM is closer related to
> something like a prophet 5...
>
> Somhow the first nord lead was reffering a bit to the prophet 5..
> and i found it easier to clone curtis chip designs with the NM than
> other analog synths...
> So to get exact EMS and Roland sounds is rather difficult, while
> oberheim sci style sounds sometimes just work straight out with
> stnadard modules without special soundshaping and fatening...
>
>
> You  will see that the NM represents a full blown wall of syntheziser
> modules and simulates the process of patching a real anlog modular
> very good...
> So you defenetly have a cance to feel the zen of patching even when
> its just digital.
>
>
> Its however good to learn some of mentioned sound fatening tricks
> about the nord...
>
> something like: use a chorus to modulate something.. or build little 1
> sample feedback loops with a mixer or crossfader module.
>
> There is lots to find about such tricks in the tutorials about NM1 and
> G2...
>
> The two machines are very similar regarding the process off
> patching... So publikations for one of the machines are in big parts
> interesting for the other machine aswell.
>
>
>
> TH NM shows it strongest sides when you patch wild modulations in
> sequenced paterns ...something where you would need on a real analog
> Modular at least 4 stepsequencers...
>
> So only something the very ritch analog modular owner could patch...
> i only have seen one real analog modular wih 4 step sequencers so
> far... most are called big systems when they have 2 of them...
>
>
> And.. to finish the longest post i had on the list for years ;-)
>
>
>
> It needs some time to get the nm sound they way that you enjoy the
> sound...but it can reach a very interesting type of crunchiness, that
> makes it sometimes as original sounding as a real analog.
>
> Like allways in the digital domain this needs more work than with
> analog beeings..
>
> But i gueess you will like the machine after you got over the learning
> curve.
>
> good luck
> s
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 19.01.2009 um 10:56 schrieb sonic.kitchen:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I've just got myself a nord modular classic with 25 keys. i'm pretty
>> excited having a modular synth and want to start as soon as i get  
>> time
>> to learn the nm. i was just wondering if anyone had made emulations  
>> to
>> the ems vcs3 or the aks and are willing to share? i know that maybe
>> certain things are not possible to build e.g. a matrix (or am i
>> wrong?) but any patches that i can look into and learn would be  
>> great.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Dennis
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