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	<title>Nabble - NYPHP-Talk</title>
	<updated>2009-12-17T10:54:17Z</updated>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26833145</id>
	<title>Re: Google Wave API</title>
	<published>2009-12-17T10:54:17Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-17T10:54:17Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>John Campbell-6</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Google never releases php anything.  They are a C++/Java/Python shop.  They have occasionally written some sample php code for tutorial purposes, but they will not write a php library.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Gary Mort &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26833145&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;garyamort@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;&quot;&gt;
Just wondering if anyone here knows if/when Google will be releasing a PHP client library for Google Wave to go with their Java and Python ones?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://code.google.com/apis/wave/guide.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://code.google.com/apis/wave/guide.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;
&lt;font color=&quot;#888888&quot;&gt;
&lt;br&gt;-- &lt;br&gt;----&lt;br&gt;Hudson Valley Sudbury School&lt;br&gt;What GPL is for application users&lt;br&gt;Our school is for students&lt;br&gt;Help your children grow, change, and learn&lt;br&gt;Let your child direct, control, amend&lt;br&gt;Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sudburyschool.org&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sudburyschool.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;


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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26819846</id>
	<title>Google Wave API</title>
	<published>2009-12-16T14:44:52Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-16T14:44:52Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Gary Mort-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Just wondering if anyone here knows if/when Google will be releasing a PHP client library for Google Wave to go with their Java and Python ones?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://code.google.com/apis/wave/guide.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://code.google.com/apis/wave/guide.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;
&lt;br&gt;-- &lt;br&gt;----&lt;br&gt;Hudson Valley Sudbury School&lt;br&gt;What GPL is for application users&lt;br&gt;Our school is for students&lt;br&gt;Help your children grow, change, and learn&lt;br&gt;Let your child direct, control, amend&lt;br&gt;Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sudburyschool.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sudburyschool.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26798635</id>
	<title>XCache on windows - Can I see your xcache.ini?</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T09:36:30Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T09:36:30Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ben Sgro (ProjectSkyline)</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm trying to setup xcache on window - it is listed in (phpinfo()):
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This program makes use of the Zend Scripting Language Engine:
&lt;br&gt;Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; with Xdebug v2.0.3, Copyright (c) 2002-2007, by Derick Rethans
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; with XCache v1.2.2, Copyright (c) 2005-2007, by mOo &amp;lt;&amp;lt;----
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BUT it *doesn't* have a block entry like everything else. When I try to run:
&lt;br&gt;if (extension_loaded('XCache')) - it fails - (Pulled this from the 
&lt;br&gt;admin.php bundled w/xcache).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, I take a look at anyone's xcache.ini for windows - I think I have it 
&lt;br&gt;incorrectly configured.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Ben
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26778831</id>
	<title>Re: mailing lists</title>
	<published>2009-12-14T06:42:02Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-14T06:42:02Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Fee, Patrick J (US SSA)</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">For what it's worth, I've not received any of those emails.
&lt;br&gt;Either my corporate filters are doing their job, or perhaps some people are getting spam with the list name spoofed to appear like our lists.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Keep up the good work Hans. &amp;nbsp;I've had to do some digging through mbox in the past... it is NOT fun, but it is stable as all get out!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have a great week.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Patrick J. Fee
&lt;br&gt;Manager, Systems Engineering Services
&lt;br&gt;BAE Systems Technology Solutions &amp; Services
&lt;br&gt;Cel: (240) 401-6820
&lt;br&gt;Fax: (301) 231-2635
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26778831&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Patrick.Fee@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;From: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26778831&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;talk-bounces@...&lt;/a&gt; [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26778831&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;talk-bounces@...&lt;/a&gt;] On Behalf Of Hans Zaunere
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 2:29 PM
&lt;br&gt;To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26778831&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jobs@...&lt;/a&gt;; 'NYPHP Talk'; &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26778831&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;joomla@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: [nyphp-talk] mailing lists
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; What's with all the spam &amp;quot;porn&amp;quot; solicitation email??
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hmm, not sure actually - looking into it now.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry about that folks - 8 years and nothing like that - although oddly,
&lt;br&gt;we've had two similar incidents in as many weeks... and going through mbox
&lt;br&gt;files isn't too fun. &amp;nbsp;Mailman might be showing its age.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, oddly, the spam messages themselves never ended up in my inbox for
&lt;br&gt;whatever reason. &amp;nbsp;If anyone catches more messages like this, please contact
&lt;br&gt;me directly, as sometimes I might miss them.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;H
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26760482</id>
	<title>mailing lists</title>
	<published>2009-12-12T11:29:17Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-12T11:29:17Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Hans Zaunere</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt; &amp;gt; What's with all the spam &amp;quot;porn&amp;quot; solicitation email??
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hmm, not sure actually - looking into it now.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry about that folks - 8 years and nothing like that - although oddly,
&lt;br&gt;we've had two similar incidents in as many weeks... and going through mbox
&lt;br&gt;files isn't too fun. &amp;nbsp;Mailman might be showing its age.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, oddly, the spam messages themselves never ended up in my inbox for
&lt;br&gt;whatever reason. &amp;nbsp;If anyone catches more messages like this, please contact
&lt;br&gt;me directly, as sometimes I might miss them.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;H
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26760085</id>
	<title>Re: [nyphp-jobs] spam</title>
	<published>2009-12-12T10:41:26Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-12T10:41:26Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Hans Zaunere</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt; What's with all the spam &amp;quot;porn&amp;quot; solicitation email??
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hmm, not sure actually - looking into it now.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;H
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26757899</id>
	<title>Re: preteen</title>
	<published>2009-12-12T06:08:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-12T06:08:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Leam Hall</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hey, got any of Hans in a bikini?
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	<title>Re: MongoDB and others, convince me. :-)</title>
	<published>2009-12-10T07:41:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-10T07:41:29Z</updated>
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	<content type="html">On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Konstantin K &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26729475&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kkrutoi@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Funny, but some (valid? fair? not sure) points about NoSQL databases:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://highscalability.com/blog/2009/11/25/brian-akers-hilarious-nosql-stand-up-routine.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://highscalability.com/blog/2009/11/25/brian-akers-hilarious-nosql-stand-up-routine.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; accompanying slides: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slideshare.net/brianaker/no-sql-talk&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.slideshare.net/brianaker/no-sql-talk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He's trying to be funny, at the expense of being less than 20%
&lt;br&gt;accurate. In all fairness the term noSQL is generic enough to no
&lt;br&gt;longer be about specific features, as something like Project Voldemort
&lt;br&gt;has a totally different featureset and target than MongoDB, which in
&lt;br&gt;turn is not trying to solve the exact same problems as CouchDB or
&lt;br&gt;hBase. I'd try to avoid sweeping generalizations about noSQL, but I
&lt;br&gt;think he was just trying to be funny and not misinform.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- Mitch
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26722218</id>
	<title>Re: MongoDB and others, convince me. :-)</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T20:53:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T20:53:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Konstantin K</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Funny, but some (valid? fair? not sure) points about NoSQL databases:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://highscalability.com/blog/2009/11/25/brian-akers-hilarious-nosql-stand-up-routine.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://highscalability.com/blog/2009/11/25/brian-akers-hilarious-nosql-stand-up-routine.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;accompanying slides: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slideshare.net/brianaker/no-sql-talk&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.slideshare.net/brianaker/no-sql-talk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Peter Becker &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26722218&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;peterbsemail@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Here here!  I think that context is everything and the points you made are
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; spot on.....so why this huge interest in non-relational db's now?  I'd say
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; it in 2 words Web 2.0 (well actually 1 word and 1integer).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Could Facebook, Twitter and any of the others have any idea of what their db
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; should look like or evolve to?  I doubt it, and so for these cases where the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; industry is not mature the non-relational makes perfect sense.  But for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mature industries, then organizing the data with clearly defined attributes
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and organization will give the biggest bang for the buck to the business
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; who's inevitably using it (and paying the bills).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It'll be interesting to see as these new industries mature and the next
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; generations have a better idea of what they'll be/need to do whether there
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; will be a migration away from the non-relational...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Anyway, just my 2 cents from a neophyte who knows just enough to be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; dangerous.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Peter
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Gary Mort wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ok, so since someone has been singing the praises of MongoDB, and others
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; have been mentioned, I figured I'd provide a contrarian view and see if you
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; can convince me otherwise.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I'm a big fan of relational databases.  Have been using them since I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; graduated from college in 1993, starting with DB2, followed with MySQL[and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; boy was THAT interesting.  DB2 was always like 2 years behind all the neat
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; features in other relational databases.  Then I went to MySQL and not only
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; did it lack those features, it lacked a lot of what solid, dependable DB2
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; had!  And it was on purpose!  They deliberately choose to keep MySQL lean
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; and mean and avoid things like foreign keys, stored procedures, and such.]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; My experience is that almost any application can be broken up and thought
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; of as tables.  Especially in the business world, people naturally think in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; terms of spreadsheets since the spreadsheet is king there.  And a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; spreadsheet is nothing but a table.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; And by putting everything in well documented[ha ha!] tables with
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; consistent column and table naming schemes, even power users can use query
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; tools such as Navicat to build their own queries and reports easily.   So by
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; keeping everything in a well understood industry standard format, we lower
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the skill level needed to access and create reports on the underlying data -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; always a good thing since I personally hate it when someone asks me to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; create a report on sales from last year &amp;quot;just like this other one except we
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; need to include wholesale prices&amp;quot;,  There is no challenge there, no fun.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;  Just pure grunt work.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; So all this talk of moving away from SQL makes me nervous.  Will cluefull
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; users still be able to envision the data so they can pull reports.  Heck,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; are there even the user friendly point and click tools for them to do
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; so?[Personally I never use the query builder in Navicat and find it tedious,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; but I know plenty of power users who CAN do that].
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; To me, it looks like migrating to this new method of storing data will end
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; up &amp;quot;locking&amp;quot; the business data up in a format that raises the cost to access
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the data.  It reminds me of the way Magentoo is designed, with those oh so
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cool tables for storing field values without creating new table fields.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;  Sure, it may make it easier to expand/change the system, but having to do
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; multiple joins to the same dang table to get different pieces of data makes
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the data harder to get to for non programmers!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; My feeling on business data is that business data belongs TO the business
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; creating it.  Not to some programmer who is the only one who can access
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; it[or worse, to some company that stores it in a proprietary format and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; won't allow the data to be exported!] - so at the moment, I'm not seeing
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; that sort of access for data in MongoDB.   Command line pseodo queries is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; not enough, I want to know the data is easy to get out for a power user -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; not me.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26715957</id>
	<title>Re: UCS2/HexEncoded chracters</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T11:13:57Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T11:13:57Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Michael B Allen</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi Mohammad,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Use the iconv function like:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; $outstr = iconv('UTF-8', 'UCS-2BE', $instr);
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The iconv function might be an extension but it's been available on
&lt;br&gt;every PHP installation I have ever used.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can also test the conversion using the 'iconv' commandline program like:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; linux$ iconv --from-code=UTF-8 --to-code=UCS-2BE /tmp/infile &amp;gt; /tmp/outfile
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course you'll need to take the necessary precautions to ensure that
&lt;br&gt;the input is UTF-8. So if for example the input is coming from an HTML
&lt;br&gt;form, you will need to ensure that the content-encoding of the page is
&lt;br&gt;UTF-8. Otherwise, if it is something like ISO-8859-1 you will get the
&lt;br&gt;wrong result with non-Latin characters such as Arabic.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also if you run the above commandline example in a terminal, it may
&lt;br&gt;not have the required font to render the characters. But you can use
&lt;br&gt;the 'hexdump' program to dump the outfile to hexadecimal and verify
&lt;br&gt;that the conversion worked.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, note that Windows uses UTF-16LE and Java uses UCS-2BE for
&lt;br&gt;native encodings. Some of these encodings may look similar in fact
&lt;br&gt;they are not the same. You may want to double check what encoding
&lt;br&gt;you're really targeting.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mike
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2009/12/9 Mohammad Abu Karim &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26715957&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mabukarim@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi nyphp members,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I am new member in this mailing list, and I am happy to join it.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Any one can help me ? how could I get UCS2/HexEncoded chracters
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; like 'Hello' will return &amp;quot;00480065006C006C006F&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This are the HexEncoded values:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 0048 = H
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 0065 = e
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 006C = l
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 006C = l
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 006F = o
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Also in arabic (!مرحبا عالم) will return
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 06450631062d0628064b06270020063906270644064500200021
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; How I can get the encoded UCS2 in php?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regards
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ---
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	<title>Re: play a sound</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T09:08:13Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T09:08:13Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nicholas Hart-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I&amp;#39;m trying to play a sound on the browser using javascript play() method.  This worked fine on my Firefox browser but I keep getting errors on other Firefox browsers in the office.  Anyone know what add-on or version of FF I need to make this work all the time? &lt;br&gt;
Thanks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nick&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;
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	<title>UCS2/HexEncoded chracters</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T00:49:23Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T00:49:23Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mohammad Abu Karim</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Hi nyphp members,&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;I am new member in this mailing list, and I am happy to join it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsgBodyText&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Any one can help me ? how could I get UCS2/HexEncoded chracters &lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;
like &amp;#39;Hello&amp;#39; will return &amp;quot;00480065006C006C006F&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
This are the HexEncoded values:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
0048 = H&lt;br&gt;
0065 = e&lt;br&gt;
006C = l&lt;br&gt;
006C = l&lt;br&gt;
006F = o&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Also in arabic (!مرحبا عالم) will return 06450631062d0628064b06270020063906270644064500200021&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;How I can get the encoded UCS2 in php?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Regards&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- &lt;br&gt;---&lt;br&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(192, 192, 192);&quot;&gt;Mohammad Abdallah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-08T14:10:05Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-08T14:10:05Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>rotsen</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">OK Guys,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I found how to fix the problem.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There was actually nothing wrong.&lt;br&gt;The solution was just to reboot the windows machine.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was reading some message in the internet and they said that they reboot their machine and&lt;br&gt;
thinks started to work.  I did the same and that did it.  that I hate about MS machines..grrr...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am mad also because I forgot that with MS you need to reboot. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for all your help!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Néstor &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26701729&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rotsen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
I am mor econvinced now that it is somthing to do with PHP talking to MYSQL because I did install one of those packages (wampserver) last Thursday and it was failing also.  My PHP files that do not have any calls to the database&lt;br&gt;

work but as soon as I use a php file that access myqsl I get that error message.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nestor :-)&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;h5&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:10 PM, David Krings &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26701729&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ramons@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;

&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Nasir Zubair wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
Just a thought, are your extensions (mysql.dll, etc) working properly? On windows, they can be a pain to configure.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Which is why I can only second what someone else mentioned before: download the package from ApacheFriends and install it. Then make sure that everything works. Then replace their htdocs folder with yours, then copy in the MySQL databases without overwriting the system databases followed by the table update. This approach works well, but has one flaw. I never can manage to get the MySQL user accounts and rights to copy over correctly, so I just create the few user accounts I have new. You may want to try backup&amp;amp;restore instead. Lastly, I uncomment the modules that I need for PHP in the php.ini. I keep a list of what I need for the projects that I run. One Apache restart later I am up and running.&lt;br&gt;


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I use ApacheFriends XAMPP in production use for almost ten years and I can only say two things about it: it always works and it is darn easy to set up. Sure, I don&amp;#39;t learn about the detailed configurations and such, but I am happy with outsourcing that to Germany.&lt;br&gt;

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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26686979</id>
	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T16:45:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T16:45:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>rotsen</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I am mor econvinced now that it is somthing to do with PHP talking to MYSQL because I did install one of those packages (wampserver) last Thursday and it was failing also.  My PHP files that do not have any calls to the database&lt;br&gt;
work but as soon as I use a php file that access myqsl I get that error message.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nestor :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:10 PM, David Krings &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26686979&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ramons@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;im&quot;&gt;Nasir Zubair wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
Just a thought, are your extensions (mysql.dll, etc) working properly? On windows, they can be a pain to configure.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Which is why I can only second what someone else mentioned before: download the package from ApacheFriends and install it. Then make sure that everything works. Then replace their htdocs folder with yours, then copy in the MySQL databases without overwriting the system databases followed by the table update. This approach works well, but has one flaw. I never can manage to get the MySQL user accounts and rights to copy over correctly, so I just create the few user accounts I have new. You may want to try backup&amp;amp;restore instead. Lastly, I uncomment the modules that I need for PHP in the php.ini. I keep a list of what I need for the projects that I run. One Apache restart later I am up and running.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;
I use ApacheFriends XAMPP in production use for almost ten years and I can only say two things about it: it always works and it is darn easy to set up. Sure, I don&amp;#39;t learn about the detailed configurations and such, but I am happy with outsourcing that to Germany.&lt;br&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26686954</id>
	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T16:43:11Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T16:43:11Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>rotsen</name>
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	<content type="html">I guess my mysql.dll extension i snot working properly because PHP is not talking to mysql at this time.&lt;br&gt;I taking the latest PHP5.2 and the latest apache2.2 .  They should work together.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nestor :-)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Nasir Zubair &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26686954&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nasir81@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just a thought, are your extensions (mysql.dll, etc) working properly? On windows, they can be a pain to configure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In my experience, Apache crashes like the one you described happen because of misconfigured extensions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;im&quot;&gt;On Dec 7, 2009 6:12 PM, &amp;quot;Néstor&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26686954&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rotsen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, I am starting to think that PHP is having problems accessing Mysql.  I installed PHP and Apache but I am still using &lt;br&gt;

my original mysql 5.0.    I did not have ths problem before I updated php and Apache.  I probably need to install a Mysql client or something like that. &lt;br&gt;
I am also a Linux guy but evey once in a while I need to deal with MS problems.&lt;br&gt;What is making this hard is that there is no clue of what is happening or that the error is a mysql error.  I could see in the&lt;br&gt;Event Viewer the following message:&lt;br&gt;


&amp;quot;Faulting application httpd.exe, version 2.2.14.0 faulting module php5ts.dll, version 5.2.11.11, fault address 0x0000ac6a&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now I need to ggole it and see what can be, but I believe that it is a php not talkign to mysql.&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;Thanks,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nestor ;-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#500050&quot;&gt;

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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26686652</id>
	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T16:10:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T16:10:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>David Krings</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Nasir Zubair wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Just a thought, are your extensions (mysql.dll, etc) working properly? 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On windows, they can be a pain to configure.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Which is why I can only second what someone else mentioned before: download 
&lt;br&gt;the package from ApacheFriends and install it. Then make sure that everything 
&lt;br&gt;works. Then replace their htdocs folder with yours, then copy in the MySQL 
&lt;br&gt;databases without overwriting the system databases followed by the table 
&lt;br&gt;update. This approach works well, but has one flaw. I never can manage to get 
&lt;br&gt;the MySQL user accounts and rights to copy over correctly, so I just create 
&lt;br&gt;the few user accounts I have new. You may want to try backup&amp;restore instead. 
&lt;br&gt;Lastly, I uncomment the modules that I need for PHP in the php.ini. I keep a 
&lt;br&gt;list of what I need for the projects that I run. One Apache restart later I am 
&lt;br&gt;up and running.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I use ApacheFriends XAMPP in production use for almost ten years and I can 
&lt;br&gt;only say two things about it: it always works and it is darn easy to set up. 
&lt;br&gt;Sure, I don't learn about the detailed configurations and such, but I am happy 
&lt;br&gt;with outsourcing that to Germany.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;David
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26686235</id>
	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T15:31:30Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T15:31:30Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nasir Zubair</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;p&gt;Just a thought, are your extensions (mysql.dll, etc) working properly? On windows, they can be a pain to configure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In my experience, Apache crashes like the one you described happen because of misconfigured extensions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;On Dec 7, 2009 6:12 PM, &amp;quot;Néstor&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26686235&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rotsen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, I am starting to think that PHP is having problems accessing Mysql.  I installed PHP and Apache but I am still using &lt;br&gt;
my original mysql 5.0.    I did not have ths problem before I updated php and Apache.  I probably need to install a Mysql client or something like that. &lt;br&gt;
I am also a Linux guy but evey once in a while I need to deal with MS problems.&lt;br&gt;What is making this hard is that there is no clue of what is happening or that the error is a mysql error.  I could see in the&lt;br&gt;Event Viewer the following message:&lt;br&gt;

&amp;quot;Faulting application httpd.exe, version 2.2.14.0 faulting module php5ts.dll, version 5.2.11.11, fault address 0x0000ac6a&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now I need to ggole it and see what can be, but I believe that it is a php not talkign to mysql.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;Thanks,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nestor ;-)&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#500050&quot;&gt;

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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26686006</id>
	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T15:11:22Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T15:11:22Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>rotsen</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Yes, I am starting to think that PHP is having problems accessing Mysql.  I installed PHP and Apache but I am still using &lt;br&gt;my original mysql 5.0.    I did not have ths problem before I updated php and Apache.  I probably need to install a Mysql client or something like that. &lt;br&gt;
I am also a Linux guy but evey once in a while I need to deal with MS problems.&lt;br&gt;What is making this hard is that there is no clue of what is happening or that the error is a mysql error.  I could see in the&lt;br&gt;Event Viewer the following message:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;quot;Faulting application httpd.exe, version 2.2.14.0 faulting module php5ts.dll, version 5.2.11.11, fault address 0x0000ac6a&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now I need to ggole it and see what can be, but I believe that it is a php not talkign to mysql.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Thanks,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nestor ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Edward Potter &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26686006&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;edwardpotter@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
i&amp;#39;m not a windows guy, but this does not look like an http/site error log.  99% of the time the issue will jump out at you if u check the logs.&lt;div class=&quot;im&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div&gt;the error.log :&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Apache/2.2.11 (Win32) PHP/5.2.8 configured -- resuming normal operations&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Server built: Dec 10 2008 00:10:06&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Parent: Created child process 4048&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Child process is running&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:49 2009] [notice] Child 5444: Released the start mutex&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:49 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Acquired the start mutex.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:49 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Starting 64 worker threads.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:50 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Starting thread to listen on port 80.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:50 2009] [notice] Child 5444: All worker threads have exited.&lt;/div&gt;
[Fri Dec 04 10:37:50 2009] [notice] Child 5444: Child process is exiting&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;h5&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Néstor &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26686006&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rotsen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;

&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;Yes, I am aware off  that and it is one of the fields I always make sure that is set to On&lt;div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Thanks,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Nestor :-)&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Rolan Yang &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26686006&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rolan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;


&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Néstor wrote:&lt;br&gt;
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People,&lt;br&gt;
 I have installed lamp &amp;amp; wamp several times in the pst and for the last 24 hours I have&lt;br&gt;
been trying to install wamp and php using FF will ask me  &amp;quot; What should I do with this file&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
 Annoying because I follow the steps that I remembered and it did not worked.  Then I look&lt;br&gt;
at the installations instruction and followed them and still it would not work., thenI tried&lt;br&gt;
installing wamp using the wampserver.exe and that failed.&lt;br&gt;
 ....&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
 I used PHP 5.2.8 and APACHE 2.2.11 on windows XP&lt;br&gt;
 Is there something that I am not aware off when doing this type of installation?&lt;br&gt;
 &lt;br&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Do you start your php code with &amp;lt;?php or just &amp;lt;?&lt;br&gt;
If the latter is not rendering, update your php.ini to include&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
short_open_tag = On&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I just installed xampp onto a usb thumbdrive the other day and found some of my lazy-programmed scripts were not running and that was the reason.&lt;br&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#888888&quot;&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
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	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T13:37:06Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T13:37:06Z</updated>
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		<name>edward potter</name>
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	<content type="html">i&amp;#39;m not a windows guy, but this does not look like an http/site error log.  99% of the time the issue will jump out at you if u check the logs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div&gt;the error.log :&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Apache/2.2.11 (Win32) PHP/5.2.8 configured -- resuming normal operations&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Server built: Dec 10 2008 00:10:06&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Parent: Created child process 4048&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Child process is running&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:49 2009] [notice] Child 5444: Released the start mutex&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:49 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Acquired the start mutex.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:49 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Starting 64 worker threads.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:50 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Starting thread to listen on port 80.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:50 2009] [notice] Child 5444: All worker threads have exited.&lt;/div&gt;
[Fri Dec 04 10:37:50 2009] [notice] Child 5444: Child process is exiting&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Néstor &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26684645&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rotsen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;Yes, I am aware off  that and it is one of the fields I always make sure that is set to On&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Thanks,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Nestor :-)&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;h5&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Rolan Yang &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26684645&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rolan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;

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Néstor wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;
People,&lt;br&gt;
 I have installed lamp &amp;amp; wamp several times in the pst and for the last 24 hours I have&lt;br&gt;
been trying to install wamp and php using FF will ask me  &amp;quot; What should I do with this file&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
 Annoying because I follow the steps that I remembered and it did not worked.  Then I look&lt;br&gt;
at the installations instruction and followed them and still it would not work., thenI tried&lt;br&gt;
installing wamp using the wampserver.exe and that failed.&lt;br&gt;
 ....&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
 I used PHP 5.2.8 and APACHE 2.2.11 on windows XP&lt;br&gt;
 Is there something that I am not aware off when doing this type of installation?&lt;br&gt;
 &lt;br&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Do you start your php code with &amp;lt;?php or just &amp;lt;?&lt;br&gt;
If the latter is not rendering, update your php.ini to include&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
short_open_tag = On&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I just installed xampp onto a usb thumbdrive the other day and found some of my lazy-programmed scripts were not running and that was the reason.&lt;br&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#888888&quot;&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
~Rolan&lt;/font&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-06T20:53:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-06T20:53:03Z</updated>
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		<name>rotsen</name>
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	<content type="html">Yes, I am aware off  that and it is one of the fields I always make sure that is set to On&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Thanks,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Nestor :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Rolan Yang &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26672482&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rolan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;
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Néstor wrote:&lt;br&gt;
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People,&lt;br&gt;
 I have installed lamp &amp;amp; wamp several times in the pst and for the last 24 hours I have&lt;br&gt;
been trying to install wamp and php using FF will ask me  &amp;quot; What should I do with this file&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
 Annoying because I follow the steps that I remembered and it did not worked.  Then I look&lt;br&gt;
at the installations instruction and followed them and still it would not work., thenI tried&lt;br&gt;
installing wamp using the wampserver.exe and that failed.&lt;br&gt;
 ....&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;im&quot;&gt;
 I used PHP 5.2.8 and APACHE 2.2.11 on windows XP&lt;br&gt;
 Is there something that I am not aware off when doing this type of installation?&lt;br&gt;
 &lt;br&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Do you start your php code with &amp;lt;?php or just &amp;lt;?&lt;br&gt;
If the latter is not rendering, update your php.ini to include&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
short_open_tag = On&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I just installed xampp onto a usb thumbdrive the other day and found some of my lazy-programmed scripts were not running and that was the reason.&lt;br&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#888888&quot;&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
~Rolan&lt;/font&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;h5&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-06T19:18:24Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-06T19:18:24Z</updated>
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		<name>Rolan Yang</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Néstor wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; People,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have installed lamp &amp; wamp several times in the pst and for the last 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 24 hours I have
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; been trying to install wamp and php using FF will ask me &amp;nbsp;&amp;quot; What 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; should I do with this file&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Annoying because I follow the steps that I remembered and it did not 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; worked. &amp;nbsp;Then I look
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; at the installations instruction and followed them and still it would 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; not work., thenI tried
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; installing wamp using the wampserver.exe and that failed.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;....
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I used PHP 5.2.8 and APACHE 2.2.11 on windows XP
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is there something that I am not aware off when doing this type of 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; installation?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you start your php code with &amp;lt;?php or just &amp;lt;?
&lt;br&gt;If the latter is not rendering, update your php.ini to include
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;short_open_tag = On
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just installed xampp onto a usb thumbdrive the other day and found 
&lt;br&gt;some of my lazy-programmed scripts were not running and that was the reason.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;~Rolan
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	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T15:36:21Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T15:36:21Z</updated>
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		<name>rotsen</name>
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	<content type="html">OK, I did the install again using apache 2.2.14 and php5.2.11&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So far I can tell you is  that &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1) phpinfo.php works again&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;2) a couple of my php scripts work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;3) I download ans install Drupal (intense PHP) and now I am getting &amp;quot;connection to server was reset&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;The interesting thing is when I go to my drupal site I get a window to sent the error results to tell Microsoft about the pproblem.&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;Apache HTTP Server has encountered a problem and needs to close.  We are sorry for the inconvenience.&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;At least I have my server working again.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Néstor ;-)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Tom Sartain &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26651029&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tomsartain@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;

So is it just a problem with phpinfo()? Can you get any output from a PHP script? And try throwing an error_log into that php file with the loop. We want to make sure that errors are being logged where they should be, when they should be. Check your php.ini to make sure it&amp;#39;s enabled there.&lt;div&gt;


&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is very very odd. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#888888&quot;&gt;-Tom&lt;/font&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Néstor &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26651029&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rotsen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;


&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Tom,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;the attached file was the headers for the index.php file, the php file that works,.  I set up to display the&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;php errors on C:\tmp/php_errors but nothing is displaying on the file.  I tested a small php file that has a loop and that works.  I even copied an existing phpinfo.php file from another server that works  just in case I had an error&lt;/div&gt;




&lt;div&gt;on my current phpinfo.php file and that one did not worked also.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I can see this happening if it was my first time but I have done this many other times and I never had the rpoblem&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Ayayayyyyyyy.......&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I can try installing again but I did that yesterday like 5 times and I even used the wampserver.exe to have it doen automatically and that failed.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I guess I can try one more time  :-(&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Thanks,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#888888&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Néstor :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Tom Sartain &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26651029&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tomsartain@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;It seems like something might have gone wrong with the content encoding of your apache config/installation. I&amp;#39;m guessing that IE is ignoring the extra bytes at the end of the lines but Firefox is not. I could ask you to look at any config files you&amp;#39;ve edited and check the encodings and line endings, but that would be more trouble than it&amp;#39;s worth.&lt;/div&gt;




&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;What are the headers like for the index.php that works? Do they have the strange characters at the end too? I&amp;#39;ve never seen anything like that.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;How about a really simple script that just error logs and echos out a basic string? It&amp;#39;s strange that your directory list will work but the phpinfo page wont.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Is there anything in your php error log at all? Try to write something to it from the script to make sure it&amp;#39;s writing where you think it should be writing to.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This is a very strange case indeed, and if it&amp;#39;s not too much trouble I might actually suggest just trying over. Something seems to have gone wrong somewhere along the line and it isn&amp;#39;t obvious, so a clean install could very well fix it. Of course, then we&amp;#39;d never know what the problem was.&lt;/div&gt;




&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#888888&quot;&gt;-Tom&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Néstor &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26651029&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rotsen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Tom,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I am sending this message just to you because I have a ttached a file about &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;the headers info for my index.php file and you can see the extra characters &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;are like japanese or chinese characters that I can see in the window but when&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I save it to a file then it looks like a black square dot.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;My phpinfo.php does nto work on FF but I have a php file (index.php) that shows me the files on my &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;web directory and that php file works&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Strange!!!&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#888888&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Néstor :-)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Tom Sartain &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26651029&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tomsartain@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#39;m assuming that the extra characters that I&amp;#39;m seeing at the end of all of those lines ( &lt;span style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;&quot;&gt;å,ž&lt;/span&gt; )  are a result of copying/pasting from various places and aren&amp;#39;t actually being output. 
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;It seems a little odd that your phpinfo would be putting out a content-length of 44.. if I&amp;#39;m reading that right. Have you checked your php error log? Try explicitly calling error_log to write to it. Also, what do you see in the file you actually download? Is it the result of phpinfo()?&lt;/div&gt;



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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26649368</id>
	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T13:17:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T13:17:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>rotsen</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Tom,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;the attached file was the headers for the index.php file, the php file that works,.  I set up to display the&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;php errors on C:\tmp/php_errors but nothing is displaying on the file.  I tested a small php file that has a loop and that works.  I even copied an existing phpinfo.php file from another server that works  just in case I had an error&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;on my current phpinfo.php file and that one did not worked also.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I can see this happening if it was my first time but I have done this many other times and I never had the rpoblem&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Ayayayyyyyyy.......&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I can try installing again but I did that yesterday like 5 times and I even used the wampserver.exe to have it doen automatically and that failed.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I guess I can try one more time  :-(&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Thanks,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Néstor :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Tom Sartain &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26649368&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tomsartain@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;It seems like something might have gone wrong with the content encoding of your apache config/installation. I&amp;#39;m guessing that IE is ignoring the extra bytes at the end of the lines but Firefox is not. I could ask you to look at any config files you&amp;#39;ve edited and check the encodings and line endings, but that would be more trouble than it&amp;#39;s worth.&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;What are the headers like for the index.php that works? Do they have the strange characters at the end too? I&amp;#39;ve never seen anything like that.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;How about a really simple script that just error logs and echos out a basic string? It&amp;#39;s strange that your directory list will work but the phpinfo page wont.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Is there anything in your php error log at all? Try to write something to it from the script to make sure it&amp;#39;s writing where you think it should be writing to.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This is a very strange case indeed, and if it&amp;#39;s not too much trouble I might actually suggest just trying over. Something seems to have gone wrong somewhere along the line and it isn&amp;#39;t obvious, so a clean install could very well fix it. Of course, then we&amp;#39;d never know what the problem was.&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#888888&quot;&gt;-Tom&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;im&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Néstor &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26649368&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rotsen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;h5&quot;&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Tom,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I am sending this message just to you because I have a ttached a file about &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;the headers info for my index.php file and you can see the extra characters &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;are like japanese or chinese characters that I can see in the window but when&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I save it to a file then it looks like a black square dot.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;My phpinfo.php does nto work on FF but I have a php file (index.php) that shows me the files on my &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;web directory and that php file works&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Strange!!!&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#888888&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Néstor :-)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Tom Sartain &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26649368&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tomsartain@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#39;m assuming that the extra characters that I&amp;#39;m seeing at the end of all of those lines ( &lt;span style=&quot;BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px&quot;&gt;å,ž&lt;/span&gt; )  are a result of copying/pasting from various places and aren&amp;#39;t actually being output. 
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;It seems a little odd that your phpinfo would be putting out a content-length of 44.. if I&amp;#39;m reading that right. Have you checked your php error log? Try explicitly calling error_log to write to it. Also, what do you see in the file you actually download? Is it the result of phpinfo()?&lt;/div&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26649358</id>
	<title>Re: MongoDB and others, convince me. :-)</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T13:15:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T13:15:03Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Gary Mort-2</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Gary Mort &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26649358&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;garyamort@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;

Ok, so since someone has been singing the praises of MongoDB, and others have been mentioned, I figured I&amp;#39;d provide a contrarian view and see if you can convince me otherwise.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for all the well thought out replies .&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;My takeaway is that these databases have 2 important benefits.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) Performance - they perform much much better than relational databases&lt;br&gt;2) Ease of programming - they make it faster and easier to code your apps&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;The big downside seems to be reporting, they lock you into needing a programmer for reporting.  Which, if it makes it easier to program, is not so bad.  And I can definitely see the attraction for internal applications for a company that has an IT staff that can include a couple of part time programmers[a couple for turnover reasons].&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;I&amp;#39;m not seeing it as a good fit for the company that wants to hire &amp;quot;experts&amp;quot; to come in and do their work.  Or the small business setting up a site where they will have a consultant set it up, and they will use it.  The former mainly because until it is in widespread enough use, it makes it much harder to find someone else to work on it - and being locked to a single provider is never a good thing.  The latter for the same reason. &lt;br&gt;

&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I can see the use..... I&amp;#39;m just not a &amp;quot;cutting edge&amp;quot; person.  I use tried and true solutions where at the end of the day Gary &lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- &lt;br&gt;----&lt;br&gt;Hudson Valley Sudbury School&lt;br&gt;

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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26649336</id>
	<title>Re: MongoDB and others, convince me. :-)</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T13:14:31Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T13:14:31Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Gary Mort-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Gary Mort &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26649336&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;garyamort@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
Ok, so since someone has been singing the praises of MongoDB, and others have been mentioned, I figured I&amp;#39;d provide a contrarian view and see if you can convince me otherwise.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for all the well thought out replies .&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;My takeaway is that these databases have 2 important benefits.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) Performance - they perform much much better than relational databases&lt;br&gt;2) Ease of programming - they make it faster and easier to code your apps&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;The big downside seems to be reporting, they lock you into needing a programmer for reporting.  Which, if it makes it easier to program, is not so bad.  And I can definitely see the attraction for internal applications for a company that has an IT staff that can include a couple of part time programmers[a couple for turnover reasons].&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;I&amp;#39;m not seeing it as a good fit for the company that wants to hire &amp;quot;experts&amp;quot; to come in and do their work.  Or the small business setting up a site where they will have a consultant set it up, and they will use it.  The former mainly because until it is in widespread enough use, it makes it much harder to find someone else to work on it - and being locked to a single provider is never a good thing.  The latter for the same reason. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I can see the use..... I&amp;#39;m just not a &amp;quot;cutting edge&amp;quot; person.  I use tried and true solutions where at the end of the day Gary is not a requirement for future changes to the system.&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26648512</id>
	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T12:09:22Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T12:09:22Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tom Sartain</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I&amp;#39;m assuming that the extra characters that I&amp;#39;m seeing at the end of all of those lines ( &lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; &quot;&gt;å,ž&lt;/span&gt; )  are a result of copying/pasting from various places and aren&amp;#39;t actually being output.&lt;div&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It seems a little odd that your phpinfo would be putting out a content-length of 44.. if I&amp;#39;m reading that right. Have you checked your php error log? Try explicitly calling error_log to write to it. Also, what do you see in the file you actually download? Is it the result of phpinfo()?&lt;/div&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26648107</id>
	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T11:41:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T11:41:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>rotsen</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div&gt;TOm,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This is the info for my header on my &lt;a href=&quot;http://localhost/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://localhost&lt;/a&gt;, but I do not see any&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;troubles here.  Do you?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://localhost/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://localhost/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;GET / HTTP/1.1&lt;br&gt;Host: localhostå,ž&lt;br&gt;User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091102 Firefox/3.5.5 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729) FirePHP/0.3å,ž&lt;br&gt;Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8å,ž&lt;br&gt;
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5å,ž&lt;br&gt;Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflateå,ž&lt;br&gt;Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7å,ž&lt;br&gt;Keep-Alive: 300å,ž&lt;br&gt;Connection: keep-aliveå,ž&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;HTTP/1.1 200 OK&lt;br&gt;Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:08:18 GMTå,ž&lt;br&gt;Server: Apache/2.2.11 (Win32) PHP/5.2.8å,ž&lt;br&gt;Last-Modified: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:16:24 GMTå,ž&lt;br&gt;Etag: &amp;quot;13000000077d49-2c-3e957f94afe00&amp;quot;å,ž&lt;br&gt;Accept-Ranges: byteså,ž&lt;br&gt;
Content-Length: 44å,ž&lt;br&gt;Content-Type: text/htmlå,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I can not display anything for my phpinfo.php file because it wants to sabe it.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Thanks,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Néstor :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Tom Sartain &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26648107&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tomsartain@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote style=&quot;BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex&quot; class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;Take a look at LiveHTTPHeaders add-on for Firefox ( &lt;a href=&quot;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3829&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3829&lt;/a&gt; ) which should show you what you need to see. 
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Of course, you could always hit up telnet or curl (or any other number of command line tools) to connect to the server and check out the responses. &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;h5&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Néstor &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26648107&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rotsen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Yes, the PHP script is only doing phpinfo();&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I have firebug install on firefox but that does not allow me to see anything during the PHP operation because it&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;just aske me to save it.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;What tools should I use to see the headers?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;:-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Tom Sartain &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26648107&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tomsartain@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote style=&quot;BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex&quot; class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;Do you have any tools to look at the headers coming back from the server?  
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;My guess is that the content-type or disposition is being set weird. The PHP script is *only* doing phpinfo() right? 
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Néstor &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26648107&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rotsen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Apache is working.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The index.html is displaying&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;the error.log :&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Apache/2.2.11 (Win32) PHP/5.2.8 configured -- resuming normal operations&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Server built: Dec 10 2008 00:10:06&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Parent: Created child process 4048&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Child process is running&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:49 2009] [notice] Child 5444: Released the start mutex&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:49 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Acquired the start mutex.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:49 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Starting 64 worker threads.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:50 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Starting thread to listen on port 80.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:50 2009] [notice] Child 5444: All worker threads have exited.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:50 2009] [notice] Child 5444: Child process is exiting&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I can see the phpinfo output on my IE 8 but no on FF 3.5.5&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;:-(&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Tom Sartain &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26648107&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tomsartain@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;First off, try testing in another browser because I doubt that this is a Firefox specific issue. 
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Second, try putting a static HTML page on the server and requesting that. It should show up fine.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Third, and really, this should be one of the first things you always do, check the error logs for Apache and PHP. Chances are that there is something in there that would tell you what it causing the problem. Initial guesses would be that either Apache is throwing an error while trying to load PHP or that the content type and/or handler for .php files is not being set properly.&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;One other thing to check on is whether the PHP code is actually executing. Try putting some error_logs or writing to a file or anything that you can verify outside of a browser. If these things happen, then it is a problem of Apache not knowing how to serve the file, not whether it should be executed or not. &lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Try these things first, then let us know of anything you find. I can almost guarantee that it is an Apache configuration issue. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26648073</id>
	<title>Re: MongoDB and others, convince me. :-)</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T11:38:37Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T11:38:37Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mitch Pirtle</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Brian O'Connor &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26648073&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gatzby3jr@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This might be a bit of a side topic, but does anyone have any good resources
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to read about this noSQL stuff?  I've looked VERY briefly at MongoDB, but
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; didn't think it was anything that amazingly fantastical that everyone seems
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to be talking about.  But if it is the next generation, I'd like to be on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; board.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can see Dwight Merriman, founder of 10gen (MongoDB), and his most
&lt;br&gt;recent presentation online in HD:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/25943056&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/25943056&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In it he discusses the different categories of noSQL databases, as
&lt;br&gt;well as the differences, strengths/weaknesses of each implementation
&lt;br&gt;approach. Actually a good overview of noSQL, not just about MongoDB.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the end you should play with one or more just to get a feel for how
&lt;br&gt;they would impact your development. I think it is very understated how
&lt;br&gt;going non-relational can benefit the development process.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ajai's points on JSON is also a killer feature of sorts, as you can
&lt;br&gt;really leverage rich data structures (and nested data) via Ajax and
&lt;br&gt;RIA with zero transformation needed.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My previous post ended with a somewhat silly analogy of horse
&lt;br&gt;carriages and jet planes. However that is why most folks are usually
&lt;br&gt;unimpressed when they evaluate - as they make the mistake of forcing a
&lt;br&gt;relational model on a document database.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26648004</id>
	<title>Re: Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T11:34:28Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T11:34:28Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>rotsen</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div&gt;BTW, I did try the first one and it made no difference but again that is for CGI.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;:-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt&quot;&gt;Do you have the following in your php loader?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;FONT-SIZE: 10pt&quot;&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;FONT-SIZE: 10pt&quot;&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26648004&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;talk-bounces@...&lt;/a&gt; [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26648004&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;talk-bounces@...&lt;/a&gt;] &lt;b&gt;On Behalf Of &lt;/b&gt;Néstor&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt; Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt; NYPHP Talk&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt; Re: [nyphp-talk] Firefox 3.5.5 not rendering PHP&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Yes, the PHP script is only doing phpinfo();&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;I have firebug install on firefox but that does not allow me to see anything during the PHP operation because it&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;just aske me to save it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;What tools should I use to see the headers?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;:-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Tom Sartain &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26648004&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tomsartain@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Do you have any tools to look at the headers coming back from the server?  &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;My guess is that the content-type or disposition is being set weird. The PHP script is *only* doing phpinfo() right? &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Néstor &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26648004&amp;i=5&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rotsen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Apache is working.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;The index.html is displaying&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;the error.log :&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Apache/2.2.11 (Win32) PHP/5.2.8 configured -- resuming normal operations&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Server built: Dec 10 2008 00:10:06&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Parent: Created child process 4048&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:48 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Child process is running&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:49 2009] [notice] Child 5444: Released the start mutex&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:49 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Acquired the start mutex.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:49 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Starting 64 worker threads.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:50 2009] [notice] Child 4048: Starting thread to listen on port 80.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:50 2009] [notice] Child 5444: All worker threads have exited.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;[Fri Dec 04 10:37:50 2009] [notice] Child 5444: Child process is exiting&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;I can see the phpinfo output on my IE 8 but no on FF 3.5.5&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;:-(&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Tom Sartain &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26648004&amp;i=6&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tomsartain@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;First off, try testing in another browser because I doubt that this is a Firefox specific issue. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Second, try putting a static HTML page on the server and requesting that. It should show up fine.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Third, and really, this should be one of the first things you always do, check the error logs for Apache and PHP. Chances are that there is something in there that would tell you what it causing the problem. Initial guesses would be that either Apache is throwing an error while trying to load PHP or that the content type and/or handler for .php files is not being set properly.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;One other thing to check on is whether the PHP code is actually executing. Try putting some error_logs or writing to a file or anything that you can verify outside of a browser. If these things happen, then it is a problem of Apache not knowing how to serve the file, not whether it should be executed or not. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Try these things first, then let us know of anything you find. I can almost guarantee that it is an Apache configuration issue. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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	<title>Re: MongoDB and others, convince me. :-)</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T11:30:06Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T11:30:06Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ajai Khattri</name>
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	<content type="html">On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Brian O'Connor wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This might be a bit of a side topic, but does anyone have any good resources
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to read about this noSQL stuff? &amp;nbsp;I've looked VERY briefly at MongoDB, but
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; didn't think it was anything that amazingly fantastical that everyone seems
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to be talking about. &amp;nbsp;But if it is the next generation, I'd like to be on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; board.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe &lt;a href=&quot;http://nosql-databases.org/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://nosql-databases.org/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;:-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You also might want to see if there's a NOSQL meeting taking place 
&lt;br&gt;nearby (or a talk featuring Mongo, Hadoop, Tokyo Cabinet or Couch).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I like is that a lot of these databases use REST interfaces and some 
&lt;br&gt;of them use JSON (which scales really well).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Aj.
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