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Need help up there?
I'm assuming that my Canadian, Prairie brethren are snowed in, and unable
to access the Internet. Because I haven't heard a peep in quite some time...
Kiron Kid
"A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that reflects the
spirit"
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 Re: Need help up there?
Nope, I was out doing star trails tonight. We'v had snow but its gone & won't be back till christmas. The melt by new years.
----- Original Message -----
From: KironKid@...
Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:30 pm
Subject: [PrairiePhoto] Need help up there?
>
> I'm assuming that my Canadian, Prairie brethren are snowed in, and
> unable
> to access the Internet. Because I haven't heard a peep in quite
> some time...
>
> Kiron Kid
> "A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that
> reflects the
> spirit"
>
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Re: Need help up there?
Hi KK,
I think things are pretty much under control up here. No snow to speak of, but it isn't getting any warmer, in fact we're constantly below normal. Actually, it looks like we've assigned the designated shooters roles to Kyle and Brian. Kyle was last seen trying to shoot the breeze (or is it the wind???) with his cell phone remote thingy, and Brian's been set loose to shoot old things, you know, old houses, old barns and a few old stars.
Haven't heard much from the plains of Oregon lately, amything new down there? Any new images to share?
Regards,
Greg
--- In PrairiePhoto@..., KironKid@... wrote:
> I'm assuming that my Canadian, Prairie brethren are snowed in, and unable
> to access the Internet. Because I haven't heard a peep in quite some time...
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Re: Re: Need help up there?
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg < gvincent@...>
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:52 am
Subject: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
> Hi KK,
>
> I think things are pretty much under control up here. No snow to
> speak of, but it isn't getting any warmer, in fact we're constantly
> below normal. Actually, it looks like we've assigned the
> designated shooters roles to Kyle and Brian. Kyle was last seen
> trying to shoot the breeze (or is it the wind???) with his cell
> phone remote thingy, and Brian's been set loose to shoot old
> things, you know, old houses, old barns and a few old stars.
>
> Haven't heard much from the plains of Oregon lately, amything new
> down there? Any new images to share?
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
I've been pretty busy breaking in my new Canon 7D
Here's a picture I took last night at ISO 6400
http://i.pbase.com/o2/34/842234/1/118581603.OQQTGgiV.7D_0794.jpg
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Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?
Hi Brian,
Great image.
So, are you going to tell us how much of the success of this image is due to you, and how much is due to the new D7? :-) :-)
And, what is the source of the light on the front of the elevator?
Regards,
Greg
> From: Brian Schnieder < brian@...>
> I've been pretty busy breaking in my new Canon 7D
> Here's a picture I took last night at ISO 6400
> http://i.pbase.com/o2/34/842234/1/118581603.OQQTGgiV.7D_0794.jpg
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Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Vincent < gvincent@...>
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
> Hi Brian,
>
> Great image.
>
> So, are you going to tell us how much of the success of this image
> is due to you, and how much is due to the new D7? :-) :-)
>
> And, what is the source of the light on the front of the elevator?
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
Hi Greg, It' all due to me. Well actually the 7D has about a stop better noise performance than the 50D and doesnt have the ugly banding of the 50. This is better than 3200 on my earlier cameras.
The light comes from the town of Stony Beach on the south side of the tracks.
Here is another I just posted on PBASE
ISO 200, 17, 2min @ f4 exposures blended in "Startrails.de"
http://i.pbase.com/o2/34/842234/1/118583736.6D6oG2dc.7D_0767.jpg
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Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?
That's another keeper Brian :-) Glad to see you're taking credit where credit is due, can't let those Canon engineers get ahead of us :-) :-)
17 exposures. Interesting.
You know, I picked up the Pentax 12-24 a few months ago and I can't recall using it yet. Shamefull I know, but it looks like you're an inspiration, or a driving force to get my butt out there after dark and make images instead of snacks before bedtime :-) Now waiting for a cloudless night or two and I'll download that startrails software too.
Do you let your camera run the extra two-minute noise reduction routine after every two-minute exposure? Not sure if your D7 operates that way, but my Pentax equipment gives me the option of run or no run.
You keep giving us just a small sampling of your images so I'll have to go searching for your Pbase location - wish me luck :-)
Regards,
Greg
> From: Brian Schnieder < brian@...>
> Hi Greg, It' all due to me. Well actually the 7D has about a stop better noise performance than the 50D and doesnt have the ugly banding of the 50. This is better than 3200 on my earlier cameras.
> The light comes from the town of Stony Beach on the south side of the tracks.
> Here is another I just posted on PBASE
> ISO 200, 17, 2min @ f4 exposures blended in "Startrails.de"
> http://i.pbase.com/o2/34/842234/1/118583736.6D6oG2dc.7D_0767.jpg>
>
>
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Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Vincent < gvincent@...>
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
> That's another keeper Brian :-) Glad to see you're taking credit
> where credit is due, can't let those Canon engineers get ahead of
> us :-) :-)
>
> 17 exposures. Interesting.
>
> You know, I picked up the Pentax 12-24 a few months ago and I can't
> recall using it yet. Shamefull I know, but it looks like you're an
> inspiration, or a driving force to get my butt out there after dark
> and make images instead of snacks before bedtime :-) Now waiting
> for a cloudless night or two and I'll download that startrails
> software too.
>
> Do you let your camera run the extra two-minute noise reduction
> routine after every two-minute exposure? Not sure if your D7
> operates that way, but my Pentax equipment gives me the option of
> run or no run.
>
> You keep giving us just a small sampling of your images so I'll
> have to go searching for your Pbase location - wish me luck :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
That 12-24 would be perfect for night shots. I your weather is like oures you might be waiting a while for a clear night.
Last night was a little cold, (around 0c) so I limeted my shot to about 34 min. I would like to have gone about 2 hours but I started shivering so I cut it short.
The advantage of stacking is that when close to a city the light pollution doesnt pile up on you like 1 long exposure does & your skys stay relitivly black. And unlike 1 exposure if the battery dies you wont lose anything but the last exposure.
BTW I turn off the long exposure NR. That would leave too big a gap in the trails. I use a timer remote to get the 2 minute I dont know if Pentax has one but you can get one here
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Timer-Remote-Cord-for-Pentax-K20D-K10D-K200D-K100D-ist_W0QQitemZ330346787168QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Camcorder_Remotes?hash=item4cea33f160Here is a link to startrails
http://www.startrails.de/html/software.htmland PBASE
http://www.pbase.com/klatuu/root
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Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?
Hi Brian,
Thanks for the detailed info, and the links.
Weather??? That big cloud bank that's sitting over you right now is just outside of Oak Lake and getting closer rapidly - will cover us for the next two or three days, then we move to a partly cloudy situation for a few more days. Oh I miss the days when I was at Moose Jaw and enjoyed more hours of sunshine than anywhere else in Canada, if not North America :-)
I knew the 12-24 would be good for landscapes, and I guess that includes nightime landscapes too, but that wasn't my prime consideration when I bought it.
My K10D allows the NR reduction function to be turned off, but not so with the K20D, so I guess the K10D would be the way to go for keeping the star trails together. I was buying quality primes at the time and that zoom lens was so well regarded that I broke down and begged forgiveness from my wife - after I bought it because I knew the truth behind the old addage about permission and forgiveness :-)
That timer device looks pretty good. If I plan to do very much of this type of photography, that would be the way to go. I have a wired remote release that locks, so with a good battery and an illuminated watch, I should be able to get consistent images :-)
And thanks for the links. Should keep me busy for a while.
Regards,
Greg
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Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Vincent < gvincent@...>
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
> Hi Brian,
>
> Thanks for the detailed info, and the links.
>
> Weather??? That big cloud bank that's sitting over you right now
> is just outside of Oak Lake and getting closer rapidly - will cover
> us for the next two or three days, then we move to a partly cloudy
> situation for a few more days. Oh I miss the days when I was at
> Moose Jaw and enjoyed more hours of sunshine than anywhere else in
> Canada, if not North America :-)
>
> I knew the 12-24 would be good for landscapes, and I guess that
> includes nightime landscapes too, but that wasn't my prime
> consideration when I bought it.
>
> My K10D allows the NR reduction function to be turned off, but not
> so with the K20D, so I guess the K10D would be the way to go for
> keeping the star trails together. I was buying quality primes at
> the time and that zoom lens was so well regarded that I broke down
> and begged forgiveness from my wife - after I bought it because I
> knew the truth behind the old addage about permission and
> forgiveness :-)
>
> That timer device looks pretty good. If I plan to do very much of
> this type of photography, that would be the way to go. I have a
> wired remote release that locks, so with a good battery and an
> illuminated watch, I should be able to get consistent images :-)
>
> And thanks for the links. Should keep me busy for a while.
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
Actually with a locking release you can use a series of 30 sec exposures. Works pretty good.
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Re: Re: Need help up there?
Glad to hear you're all alive. Keep shooting.
Kiron Kid
"A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that reflects the
spirit"
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Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?
On Manual exposure I can make exposures up to 30 seconds, so no remote release is required. It's for the longer exposures that the locking remote or that electronic timer come in handy, and the intervalometer won't likely get distracted like me during a one or two hour session :-) :-)
I like the idea of combining the images so the background light is kept at bay and if 30-second exposures work well, then that might be my starting point. Never done it, but I've heard of photographers making hours long exposures to get some amazing star trails shots.
Thyanks,
Greg
> From: Brian Schnieder < brian@...>
> Actually with a locking release you can use a series of 30 sec exposures. Works pretty good.
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Re: Re: Need help up there?
Darn it. Saved up for that new 100mm Canon IS Macro. Now I need winter tires and a full set with rims and sensors is over $2,000 for my vehicle. So do I take a really good picture of my smashed vehicle with all seasons, or do I not take a picture of a not smashed up vehicle. hummm.
--- On Thu, 10/22/09, Greg < gvincent@...> wrote:
From: Greg < gvincent@...>
Subject: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
To: PrairiePhoto@...
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 11:52 AM
Hi KK,
I think things are pretty much under control up here. No snow to speak of, but it isn't getting any warmer, in fact we're constantly below normal. Actually, it looks like we've assigned the designated shooters roles to Kyle and Brian. Kyle was last seen trying to shoot the breeze (or is it the wind???) with his cell phone remote thingy, and Brian's been set loose to shoot old things, you know, old houses, old barns and a few old stars.
Haven't heard much from the plains of Oregon lately, amything new down there? Any new images to share?
Regards,
Greg
--- In PrairiePhoto@ yahoogroups. com, KironKid@... wrote:
> I'm assuming that my Canadian, Prairie brethren are snowed in, and unable
> to access the Internet. Because I haven't heard a peep in quite some time...
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Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?
As a proud and happy owner of a Pentax D FA 100 Macro f2.8, I say damn the car, go for the lens :-) :-)
Greg
> From: kyle martens < kyle_martens@...>
> Darn it. Saved up for that new 100mm Canon IS Macro. Now I need winter tires and a full set with rims and sensors is over $2,000 for my vehicle. So do I take a really good picture of my smashed vehicle with all seasons, or do I not take a picture of a not smashed up vehicle. hummm.
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Re: Re: Need help up there?
Driving is over-rated, go for the lens!
I played with one at Don's yesterday and its pretty sweet. If only I had a spare $1200.
Driving less and taking more pictures has to be worth carbon credits, don't you think?
Allen
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Allen Lefebvre
(Sent from my BlackBerry)
-----Original Message-----
From: kyle martens < kyle_martens@...>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:24:38
To: < PrairiePhoto@...>
Subject: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
Darn it. Saved up for that new 100mm Canon IS Macro. Now I need winter tires and a full set with rims and sensors is over $2,000 for my vehicle. So do I take a really good picture of my smashed vehicle with all seasons, or do I not take a picture of a not smashed up vehicle. hummm.
--- On Thu, 10/22/09, Greg < gvincent@...> wrote:
From: Greg < gvincent@...>
Subject: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
To: PrairiePhoto@...
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 11:52 AM
Hi KK,
I think things are pretty much under control up here. No snow to speak of, but it isn't getting any warmer, in fact we're constantly below normal. Actually, it looks like we've assigned the designated shooters roles to Kyle and Brian. Kyle was last seen trying to shoot the breeze (or is it the wind???) with his cell phone remote thingy, and Brian's been set loose to shoot old things, you know, old houses, old barns and a few old stars.
Haven't heard much from the plains of Oregon lately, amything new down there? Any new images to share?
Regards,
Greg
--- In PrairiePhoto@ yahoogroups. com, KironKid@... wrote:
> I'm assuming that my Canadian, Prairie brethren are snowed in, and unable
> to access the Internet. Because I haven't heard a peep in quite some time...
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Re: Re: Need help up there?
You have to have priorities in life. By all means, go for the lens!
In a message dated 10/29/2009 1:00:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
gvincent@... writes:
As a proud and happy owner of a Pentax D FA 100 Macro f2.8, I say damn the
car, go for the lens :-) :-)
Kiron Kid
"A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that reflects the
spirit"
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Re: Re: Need help up there?
----- Original Message -----
From: "kyle martens"
Subject: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
Darn it. Saved up for that new 100mm Canon IS Macro. Now I need winter tires
and a full set with rims and sensors is over $2,000 for my vehicle. So do I
take a really good picture of my smashed vehicle with all seasons, or do I
not take a picture of a not smashed up vehicle. hummm.
I did that a few years ago, I wouldn't bother with the sensors again. With
my Nissan, the resolution of the sensors is so fine that it's almost
impossible to keep them from tripping and keeping an idiot light on all the
time when it's cold out.
Either that or I have to keep the tires inflated several pounds above
maximum pressure all the time, which has a somewhat disturbing effect on
handling.
I think I could have knocked 600 bucks off my rims and snow tires by
foregoing the sensors.
If your car is similarly priced, thats a good down payment on that lens.
William Robb
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Re: Re: Need help up there?
Which Nissan model?
In a message dated 10/29/2009 4:36:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
warobb@... writes:
I did that a few years ago, I wouldn't bother with the sensors again. With
my Nissan,
Kiron Kid
"A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that reflects the
spirit"
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Re: Re: Need help up there?
----- Original Message -----
From: < KironKid@...>
Subject: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
>
>
> Which Nissan model?
2004 Titan.
William Robb
> I did that a few years ago, I wouldn't bother with the sensors again. With
> my Nissan,
>
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Print
I picked up our print yesterday and I just wanted to pass on a tip to others who might be interested.
We picked out our favorite shot we wanted to hang on the wall from our trip to Maui (a close-up of the bark of a eucalyptus tree) and had it "done up". We had it printed at Lab Works on metallic paper at 26 x 32 inches. Then they mounted it on a thin hard board with flush edges and a stand-off back. Then they coated it with a thick layer of clear acrylic. The final result is PHENOMENAL!!! It is a true WOW piece. The bark in the image is almost 3D and the light in the room glints off the lighter areas like a reflective road sign when you car lights hit it from a distance in the dark.
Yes, it cost a penny or two, but it was DEFINITELY worth every bit and more. I highly recommend looking into it.
Kyle
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