Need some Mac info

[Troop 322]

Hello Fellow TSI Software users.

 

I participate in another group related to Dutch Oven cooking.

On that list we are discussing a software package that runs on the PC, but
numerous users on the list are Mac owners.

 

So, knowing that several persons on this list run TSI software on Macs, I
was wondering if those of you that are willing to share, would share the
answers to the following questions. Posting back to me off-list is fine,
unless others on this list would also like to know the answers.

 

1)       What type of Mac are you using?

2)       What emulator are you using to run TSI software?

3)       Rate the installation of the emulator (1 = never again, 10 =
Installs while you sleep).

4)       Rate the ease of use (use same scale as #3.

5)       Approximate Emulator cost?

 

Thanks for your responses.

Chuck

 

Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Scoutmaster, Troop 9322
Montgomery, MN

email: Troop322@...

 

 

[Zachary Heaton-2]

On 21 Sep 2009, at 17:41, Troop 322 wrote:

> Hello Fellow TSI Software users.
>
> I participate in another group related to Dutch Oven cooking.
> On that list we are discussing a software package that runs on the  
> PC, but numerous users on the list are Mac owners.
>
> So, knowing that several persons on this list run TSI software on  
> Macs, I was wondering if those of you that are willing to share,  
> would share the answers to the following questions. Posting back to  
> me off-list is fine, unless others on this list would also like to  
> know the answers.

Before I start, one quick preface - you've asked for emulation  
software, but I'm going to talk about virtualization software.  The  
technical difference between them is pretty minor - virtualization  
software runs another operating system alongside OS X on your Mac,  
emulation software simulates an entire computer on your Mac and runs  
the other OS on that.

The practical difference, however, is major.  Virtualization is much,  
much faster than emulation - the "guest" operating system runs at  
nearly native speed.  Unfortunately, virtualization is only possible  
on Intel macs - PowerPC macs must use emulation software.  If your  
users are using Intel, then virtualization is the way to go.  The  
major virtualization packages out there right now are Parallels,  
VMWare Fusion, and VirtualBox.

If your users are using PowerPC, they don't have any choice but  
emulation, which means they'll take a *big* speed hit.  Emulation  
software for PowerPC is starting to get hard to find - my "default"  
recommendation would be Microsoft Virtual PC, but it's no longer being  
sold by Microsoft and you'll have to find a used copy somewhere.  You  
could also try QEMU, but there's a steep learning curve there.

> 1)       What type of Mac are you using?

MacBook Pro (Intel Core Due), iMac (Intel Core 2 Duo)

> 2)       What emulator are you using to run TSI software?

I've used older versions of Parallels (v2.5, 3.0) and currently use  
VirtualBox.

> 3)       Rate the installation of the emulator (1 = never again, 10  
> = Installs while you sleep).

Parallels was probably about a 5 (although that was several years  
ago), and VirtualBox a 6.5 (however, I'd spent more time with  
virtualization software when I installed VirtualBox.)  If you've  
installed a Windows OS before, you shouldn't have too much difficulty.

I've personally soured on Parallels due to the frequent necessity of  
paid upgrades - for example, Snow Leopard compatibility requires a  
paid upgrade to the latest version.  I've also had mediocre  
experiences with their server virtualization products, which is part  
of what's put me off the company.  However, Parallels isn't a bad  
product per se - it's just not my preferred product.

VirtualBox is definitely a tradeoff - there's no fee for upgrades (the  
software is open source), but the user interface isn't quite as slick  
and the documentation is a little less polished in places.  That said,  
VirtualBox does seem to be extremely stable when set up correctly, and  
the documentation is comprehensive if occasionally cryptic.

I haven't used VMWare Fusion, but I've heard very good things about  
it.  It's definitely worth investigating, and I hope someone else on  
the list can add perspective.

> 4)       Rate the ease of use (use same scale as #3.

Both are a 9.  Once you get either program set up and installed and  
Windows set up and installed, use is trivial - launch the software,  
press the "Start Virtual Machine" button, and away you go.  
Installation and setup is the only real hurdle.

> 5)       Approximate Emulator cost?

Parallels - $80, http://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/
VirtualBox - Free, http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
VMWare Fusion - $80-100, http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/

Of course, you'll also need to budget for a copy of Windows in  
addition to whatever you pay for the virtualization software.

> Thanks for your responses.
> Chuck

Yours in Scouting,
Zach Heaton

[lioncub1956]

--- In TMTUG@..., "Troop 322" <Troop322@...> wrote:

>
> Hello Fellow TSI Software users.
> >
> 1)       What type of Mac are you using?
> 2)       What emulator are you using to run TSI software?
> 3)       Rate the installation of the emulator (1 = never again, 10 =
> Installs while you sleep).
> 4)       Rate the ease of use (use same scale as #3.
> 5)       Approximate Emulator cost?
> Thanks for your responses.
>
> Chuck
>

1.   iMac early 2008
2.   Parallels
3.   Rated=9 (don't want to inflate the ratings system by giving a 10)
4.   Rated=9
5.   about $70
Virtualization works!  I bought Parallels (rather than VMFusion) with my iMac in May 2008 because there was a Parallels discount/rebate.  The only problem is that to print, you have to enable the USB connection to the printer from within Parallels.  Until you release the Windows connection to the printer, you cannot print from Apple programs.  I found this is a USB rule: USB can only be attached to one device at a time.  The printer sees the iMac as one device and Parallels as another.  Not really a problem unless your spouse wants to print to the same printer on the network while you're in Parallels ;-(  A few months ago I found a deal on VMFusion and installed it.  VMFusion solved the printer problem by creating some virtual printer magic.  But about the time Snow Leopard came out I began to have print problems with VMFusion.  Troopmaster wouldn't print at all (said it was sending info to printer but nothing printed), Calendar Creator then began to print incorrectly (not the same as what you saw on the screen), but Quicken printed okay.  Weird.  Reinstalled VMFusion but the problems continued.  Now I'm back to using Parallels (just have to remember to return the printer to Mac-it's just a couple of mouse clicks).  All is well again.

YIS,
Richard Hix
Troop 387 ASM, Advancements, Membership, resident ole guy & assistant bottle washer ;-)

[Matthew Baynard]

I noticed that you can check assistant patrol leader as a leadership role in
Troopmaster.  I didn't think this was permitted by National.  Has this
changed.

 

Regards,

 

Matthew Baynard
Troop 44 - Bushkill Township
Assistant Scoutmaster & Webmaster
matthew.baynard@...
www.troop44bushkill.org

[Thom Holland]

1)  Intel Macbook running Leopard.
2)  Sun Virtual Box/Windows 7 RC
       - http://www.sun.com/software/products/virtualbox/get.jsp
       - Not sure if W7RC is still free
3)  10
4)  10
5)  Both free (A Scout is Thrifty!)


Thom Holland
Penasquitos Lutheran Church
COR Pack, Troop, Crew 626
San Diego, CA



Troop 322 wrote:

>  
>
>  
>
> 1)       What type of Mac are you using?
>
> 2)       What emulator are you using to run TSI software?
>
> 3)       Rate the installation of the emulator (1 = never again, 10 =
> Installs while you sleep).
>
> 4)       Rate the ease of use (use same scale as #3.
>
> 5)       Approximate Emulator cost?
>
> .
>
>

[troop458chico]

ALL the leadership positions are saved in the boys history...only ones approved for certain ranks will be credited towards that rank.

Cliff of Chico,CA
 


To: TMTUG@...
From: matthew.baynard@...
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:25:24 -0400
Subject: [TMTUG] Leadership in Troopmaster

 





I noticed that you can check assistant patrol leader as a leadership role in Troopmaster.  I didn’t think this was permitted by National.  Has this changed.

 

Regards,
 
Matthew Baynard
Troop 44 - Bushkill Township
Assistant Scoutmaster & Webmaster
matthew.baynard@...
www.troop44bushkill.org







     
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[Richard Damon]

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:25:24 -0400, "Matthew Baynard"
<matthew.baynard@...> wrote:

>I noticed that you can check assistant patrol leader as a leadership role in
>Troopmaster.  I didn't think this was permitted by National.  Has this
>changed.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>
>
>Matthew Baynard
>Troop 44 - Bushkill Township
>Assistant Scoutmaster & Webmaster
>matthew.baynard@...
>www.troop44bushkill.org

No, TM only defaults the check the right way, you need the check box
because you can create new positions, and you use the check box to
indicate if that position counts. For instance when we were large
enough to need 2 ASPL's  we gave each a descriptive name to designate
what there duties were, these would have the check box marked. We also
might create a Patrol level duty position that does not qualify, so
the box would not be checked for that one. TSI just didn't lock the
checkbox on the predefined positions.


Richard Damon
Scout Master Troop 302 http://troop302.info/
Pack Trainer, Pack 306
Arlington MA
District Training Chair, Sons of Liberty District, Boston Minuteman Council
I used to be a fox (NE-I-209) and a good old staffer too (NE-I-234, NE-I-244, NE-I-258, NE-I-261)
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[dajaknowles]

 > Hello Fellow TSI Software users.
> > >
> > 1)       What type of Mac are you using?  MacBook Intel
> > 2)       What emulator are you using to run TSI software? Parallels w/Windows XP
> > 3)       Rate the installation of the emulator (1 = never again, 10 =
> > Installs while you sleep). 6
> > 4)       Rate the ease of use (use same scale as #3.8
> > 5)       Approximate Emulator cost? I paid about 79 and got a rebate at the time


I tried Wine, couldn't get it to install TM.  It hung up somewhere, but I forgot where.  Used Bootcamp with Beta Windows 7.  Worked great, but I hated having to reboot with Bootcamp when I needed something on the other drive.

Now something strange happens about every other time I use TM.  I launch the program and then I get an error message saying that my password is incorrect.  TM techs think it is something going on with my AV (Avast) but I have it ignoring anything having to do with TM.  I will restore the last copy I make and that's what I've been doing, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why this happens.

Most of the data is still there, except for specialized things like when I added more categories.

Does this happen to anyone else?

Leslie Knowles
T170 Little Rock Air Force Base
Troop Secretary

[MICHAEL SHAVEL-2]

1)  IMAC Intel
2) Fusion /w WIndows XP
3) 10 (super easy install no issues)
4) 10 (no issues)
5) $75 - with free upgrades




________________________________
From: dajaknowles <dajaknowles@...>
To: TMTUG@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:10:16 AM
Subject: [TMTUG] Re: Need some Mac info

 
> Hello Fellow TSI Software users.
> > >
> > 1) What type of Mac are you using? MacBook Intel
> > 2) What emulator are you using to run TSI software? Parallels w/Windows XP
> > 3) Rate the installation of the emulator (1 = never again, 10 =
> > Installs while you sleep). 6
> > 4) Rate the ease of use (use same scale as #3.8
> > 5) Approximate Emulator cost? I paid about 79 and got a rebate at the time

I tried Wine, couldn't get it to install TM. It hung up somewhere, but I forgot where. Used Bootcamp with Beta Windows 7. Worked great, but I hated having to reboot with Bootcamp when I needed something on the other drive.

Now something strange happens about every other time I use TM. I launch the program and then I get an error message saying that my password is incorrect. TM techs think it is something going on with my AV (Avast) but I have it ignoring anything having to do with TM. I will restore the last copy I make and that's what I've been doing, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why this happens.

Most of the data is still there, except for specialized things like when I added more categories.

Does this happen to anyone else?

Leslie Knowles
T170 Little Rock Air Force Base
Troop Secretary

[Dana Jay Clark]

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: MICHAEL SHAVEL
  To: TMTUG@...
  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [TMTUG] Re: Need some Mac info


   
  1)  IMAC Intel
  2) Fusion /w WIndows XP
  3) 10 (super easy install no issues)
  4) 10 (no issues)
  5) $75 - with free upgrades




------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  From: dajaknowles <dajaknowles@...>
  To: TMTUG@...
  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:10:16 AM
  Subject: [TMTUG] Re: Need some Mac info

   
  > Hello Fellow TSI Software users.
  > > >
  > > 1) What type of Mac are you using? MacBook Intel
  > > 2) What emulator are you using to run TSI software? Parallels w/Windows XP
  > > 3) Rate the installation of the emulator (1 = never again, 10 =
  > > Installs while you sleep). 6
  > > 4) Rate the ease of use (use same scale as #3.8
  > > 5) Approximate Emulator cost? I paid about 79 and got a rebate at the time

  I tried Wine, couldn't get it to install TM. It hung up somewhere, but I forgot where. Used Bootcamp with Beta Windows 7. Worked great, but I hated having to reboot with Bootcamp when I needed something on the other drive.

  Now something strange happens about every other time I use TM. I launch the program and then I get an error message saying that my password is incorrect. TM techs think it is something going on with my AV (Avast) but I have it ignoring anything having to do with TM. I will restore the last copy I make and that's what I've been doing, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why this happens.

  Most of the data is still there, except for specialized things like when I added more categories.

  Does this happen to anyone else?

  Leslie Knowles
  T170 Little Rock Air Force Base
  Troop Secretary