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[68cat] [68Cat][Maven] Problem with Maven Wagon-WebDav plugin

2009-11-26T11:26:09Z

Hello all,
I'm experiencing a bug that seems to be present on NB 6.7.1 and hasn't
yet been fixed.
The bug I'm talking about is that any maven project containing maven
wagon-webdav plugin with no defined version is not correctly open in
the IDE and showing the "Badly Formed Maven Project" message.
If I even add a version for that project I still have problems with
the child modules, the only way I found to fix this on some modules is
to redefine the wagon-webdav declaration on every pom, but still
couldn't fix every project in the hierarchy.
Here's an old forum post about this issue:
http://forums.netbeans.org/ntopic13920.html

Has anyone experienced this issue?
Thanks,
Franco.

[68cat] Re: [debugger] Debugger closes source files

2009-11-26T10:52:28Z

On Thu, 26. Nov 2009 14:36, Vojtech.Sigler@... wrote:
>
> debugger uses a "reusable" editor tab, so that as you
> step through multiple source files, all of them are
> consequently opened in one tab (if they weren't open
> before). Is this what you mean by automatic closing of
> the source files?

Yes. (For the user, tab = file, so when the file changes,
it isn't perceived as staying in the same tab, but rather
a new tab replacing the old one.)

> This tab remains open even when you finish a debugging
> session. You can use the history buttons in the editor
> tab to navigate through all the source files you stepped
> through in that tab.

I see. It's not really the same though, as for instance you
can't easily display a list of the files like with Ctrl+Tab,
and when single-stepping you have to navigate through each
single step instead of directly switching the files. I often
want to quickly switch back and forth some of the files
while debugging.

> But if you want every source file opened by debugger in a
> new tab, I'm afraid there's no such option for that.
> At least I'm not aware of it.

Well, that's unfortunate. While I understand the motivation
for this change (not ending up with a large number of files
open), it also works against some existing use cases and
debugging habits.

There is a workaround (sort-of): When making a dummy change
in a file, then it remains open and the debugger opens a new
tab for the next file. One shouldn't have to jump through
such hoops though.

-- Niklas Matthies

[68cat] Re: [other]Topvoted bugs

2009-11-26T07:53:17Z

Thanks for your notice Wilfling. It should be fixed now.

-Jirka

Wilfling Stefan wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Yesterday I found the page http://wiki.netbeans.org/TopVoted (link from
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeans68).
>
> 1.) "You can find top-voted defects for NB 6.5 beginning at this link:
> NetBeans 6.5 Top Voted Issues
> <http://www.netbeans.org/issues/buglist.cgi?resort=1&;issue_id=135166%2C134458%2C57402%2C99355%2C102290%2C119617%2C121950%2C134455%2C134744%2C41306%2C43547%2C57457%2C66471%2C76970%2C85329%2C91584%2C101586%2C112278%2C112353%2C115983%2C121742%2C121784%2C121847%2C122256%2C123094%2C125107%2C126469%2C130270%2C135165%2C129103%2C26513%2C70067%2C96196%2C106815%2C111441%2C113110%2C117259%2C117530%2C117309&order=issues.votes%20desc%2C%20issues.votes%20desc%2C%20issues.priority%2C%20issues.issue_type>"
> Why 6.5 and not 6.7 (or 6.8)?
>
> 2.) When you click on Current Top Voted Issues
> <http://www.netbeans.org/issues/buglist.cgi?resort=1&issue_status=NEW;issue_status=STARTED;issue_status=REOPENED;email1=;emailtype1=exact;emailassigned_to1=1;email2=;emailtype2=exact;emailreporter2=1;issueidtype=include;issue_id=;changedin=;votes=;chfieldfrom=;chfieldto=;chfieldvalue=;short_desc=;short_desc_type=substring;long_desc=;long_desc_type=substring;issue_file_loc=;issue_file_loc_type=substring;status_whiteboard=;status_whiteboard_type=substring;keywords=;keywords_type=anytokens;field0-0-0=votes;type0-0-0=greaterthan;value0-0-0=3;namedcmd=bpel;newqueryname=;Submit%20query=Submit%20query&order=issues.votes%20desc%2C%20issues.issue_type%2C%20issues.votes%20desc%2C%20issues.priority%2C%20issues.issue_id>
> After some Minutes, I can see an empty page.
>
> -
> Stefan

[68cat] Re: [debugger] Debugger closes source files

2009-11-26T05:35:45Z

Hi,

debugger uses a "reusable" editor tab, so that as you step through
multiple source files, all of them are consequently opened in one tab
(if they weren't open before). Is this what you mean by automatic
closing of the source files?

This tab remains open even when you finish a debugging session. You can
use the history buttons in the editor tab to navigate through all the
source files you stepped through in that tab.

But if you want every source file opened by debugger in a new tab, I'm
afraid there's no such option for that. At least I'm not aware of it.

Vojta

Matthies, Niklas wrote:
> It seems that when the debugger leaves a source files that it opened
> itself, it automatically closes that source file again (even if the
> source is still "on" the call stack). Is ist possible to turn that off,
> i.e. to have the source file be left open, at least for the duration of
> the debugging session?
>
> -- Niklas Matthies
>
>

[68cat] Re: [core] 50 updates?

2009-11-26T05:22:05Z

I think it's not necessary Glenn. Please wait for tomorrow... ;-)

Thanks for your patience,
-Jirka

Glenn Holmer wrote:

> After taking two updates against 200911241400, I'm seeing 50 more
> available. Is that right? Should we pull those?

[68cat] [other]Topvoted bugs

2009-11-25T23:50:17Z

Hi!

Yesterday I found the page http://wiki.netbeans.org/TopVoted (link from http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeans68).

1.) "You can find top-voted defects for NB 6.5 beginning at this link: NetBeans 6.5 Top Voted Issues"

Why 6.5 and not 6.7 (or 6.8)?

2.) When you click on Current Top Voted Issues

After some Minutes, I can see an empty page.

Stefan

[68cat] Re: AW: Re: RE: "?" acts as if I were in insertion mode or deletes next caracter

2009-11-25T11:04:24Z

Thanks, but nothing appears. It displays Shift+QUOTE
Quote (') is the key's character without the Shift
(I wonder who had the idea of different kb layouts for latin alphabets)

El 25/11/2009 13:42, Wilfling Stefan escribió:
> In this case you can try to type in the "?" in Options/Keymap/"Search in Shortcuts".
>
> -
> Stefan
>

[68cat] Configuration Files node in Maven project

2009-11-25T10:30:20Z

I’ve been playing around with Maven projects this week and a big difference with them and Ant projects that I’ve noticed is that there is no Configuration Files node. I’ve always found this to be pretty handy since persistence.xml isn’t in the same place as faces-config.xml or web.xml.

Since I started with new projects, I’m assuming I’m not missing anything. I’ve put in an enhancement request: https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177621

John

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[68cat] Re: RE: Re: Slowness detection popup

2009-11-25T09:08:15Z

Matthies, Niklas wrote:
> What, this is implemented by an assertion? Weird.

It's just used as a condition to recognize a final release build where the
slowness reports should be minimized (and non-intrusive). Development builds
have assertions enabled, final release builds don't.

- Tomas

>
> Well, I'll try that, thanks.
>
> -- Niklas Matthies
>
>
> On Wed, 25. Nov 2009 17:34, Tomas.Pavek@... wrote:
>> It should help to remove -J-ea flag in etc/netbeans.conf file (on
>> netbeans_default_options line).
>>
>> - Tomas
>>
>> Matthies, Niklas wrote:
>>> Is here a way to turn off the "Slowness detected" popup?
>>> It comes up all the time when I'm working in NB, usually due to 4-5
> seconds "slowness".
>>> The popup gets rather distracting after a while, and I noticed that
> I'm
>>> confusing it with my "new important e-mail" popup (which has similar
>>> size and also fades in and out at the bottom of the screen).
>>>
>>> -- Niklas Matthies

[68cat] Re: RE: RE: Re: Slowness detection popup

2009-11-25T09:05:57Z

Hi,

You can increase the time that causes notification popup.
See http://wiki.netbeans.org/FitnessViaPostMortem and use
-J-Dorg.netbeans.core.TimeableEventQueue.report=10000

Jindra

Matthies, Niklas wrote:

> PS: Actually I still want "slowness" to be detected, for easy reporting
> via the icon in the status bar. I just don't want it to show a popup
> each time. I'll notice it by myself when there is report-worthy
> slowness. ;)
>
> -- Niklas Matthies
>
>
> On Wed, 25. Nov 2009 17:46, Matthies, Niklas wrote:
>> What, this is implemented by an assertion? Weird.
>>
>> Well, I'll try that, thanks.
>>
>> -- Niklas Matthies
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 25. Nov 2009 17:34, Tomas.Pavek@... wrote:
>>> It should help to remove -J-ea flag in etc/netbeans.conf file (on
>>> netbeans_default_options line).
>>>
>>> - Tomas
>>>
>>> Matthies, Niklas wrote:
>>>> Is here a way to turn off the "Slowness detected" popup?
>>>> It comes up all the time when I'm working in NB, usually
>> due to 4-5
>> seconds "slowness".
>>>> The popup gets rather distracting after a while, and I
>> noticed that
>> I'm
>>>> confusing it with my "new important e-mail" popup (which has
> similar
>>>> size and also fades in and out at the bottom of the screen).
>>>>
>>>> -- Niklas Matthies

[68cat] Re: RE: RE: Re: Slowness detection popup

2009-11-25T09:02:23Z

then you can use -J-Dorg.netbeans.core.TimeableEventQueue.report=<time
in ms>
(more info - http://wiki.netbeans.org/FitnessViaPostMortem)

Matthies, Niklas said the following, on 11/25/09 7:57 PM:

--
Thanks,
Oleg.

[68cat] RE: RE: Re: Slowness detection popup

2009-11-25T08:57:42Z

PS: Actually I still want "slowness" to be detected, for easy reporting
via the icon in the status bar. I just don't want it to show a popup
each time. I'll notice it by myself when there is report-worthy
slowness. ;)

-- Niklas Matthies

On Wed, 25. Nov 2009 17:46, Matthies, Niklas wrote:

> What, this is implemented by an assertion? Weird.
>
> Well, I'll try that, thanks.
>
> -- Niklas Matthies
>
>
> On Wed, 25. Nov 2009 17:34, Tomas.Pavek@... wrote:
> > It should help to remove -J-ea flag in etc/netbeans.conf file (on
> > netbeans_default_options line).
> >
> > - Tomas
> >
> > Matthies, Niklas wrote:
> > > Is here a way to turn off the "Slowness detected" popup?
> > > It comes up all the time when I'm working in NB, usually
> due to 4-5
> seconds "slowness".
> > > The popup gets rather distracting after a while, and I
> noticed that
> I'm
> > > confusing it with my "new important e-mail" popup (which has

similar
> > > size and also fades in and out at the bottom of the screen).
> > >
> > > -- Niklas Matthies

[68cat] RE: Re: Slowness detection popup

2009-11-25T08:45:44Z

What, this is implemented by an assertion? Weird.

Well, I'll try that, thanks.

-- Niklas Matthies

On Wed, 25. Nov 2009 17:34, Tomas.Pavek@... wrote:
> It should help to remove -J-ea flag in etc/netbeans.conf file (on
> netbeans_default_options line).
>
> - Tomas
>
> Matthies, Niklas wrote:
> > Is here a way to turn off the "Slowness detected" popup?
> > It comes up all the time when I'm working in NB, usually due to 4-5
seconds "slowness".
> > The popup gets rather distracting after a while, and I noticed that
I'm
> > confusing it with my "new important e-mail" popup (which has similar
> > size and also fades in and out at the bottom of the screen).
> >
> > -- Niklas Matthies

[68cat] [debugger] Debugger closes source files

2009-11-25T08:42:56Z

It seems that when the debugger leaves a source files that it opened
itself, it automatically closes that source file again (even if the
source is still "on" the call stack). Is ist possible to turn that off,
i.e. to have the source file be left open, at least for the duration of
the debugging session?

-- Niklas Matthies

[68cat] AW: Re: RE: "?" acts as if I were in insertion mode or deletes next caracter

2009-11-25T08:42:04Z

In this case you can try to type in the "?" in Options/Keymap/"Search in Shortcuts".

-
Stefan

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Alied Pérez Martínez [mailto:aliedperezmartinez@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. November 2009 17:38
An: netcat@...
Betreff: [68cat] Re: RE: "?" acts as if I were in insertion mode or deletes next caracter

Maybe it has to do with keyboard layout. To write the ? I must press Shift... Maybe the scan code conflicts with some keyboard action (Delete so far)

El 25/11/2009 12:05, Matthies, Niklas escribió:
> On Wed, 25. Nov 2009 14:09, Alied Pérez Martínez wrote:
>> Hi, have you ever noticed [1]?
>
> Doesn't happen here (build 200911220201).
>
> -- Niklas Matthies
>
>> [1] https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177580

[68cat] Re: RE: "?" acts as if I were in insertion mode or deletes next caracter

2009-11-25T08:38:00Z

Maybe it has to do with keyboard layout. To write the ? I must press
Shift... Maybe the scan code conflicts with some keyboard action (Delete
so far)

El 25/11/2009 12:05, Matthies, Niklas escribió:
> On Wed, 25. Nov 2009 14:09, Alied Pérez Martínez wrote:
>> Hi, have you ever noticed [1]?
>
> Doesn't happen here (build 200911220201).
>
> -- Niklas Matthies
>
>> [1] https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177580

[68cat] Re: Slowness detection popup

2009-11-25T08:34:25Z

It should help to remove -J-ea flag in etc/netbeans.conf file (on
netbeans_default_options line).

- Tomas

Matthies, Niklas wrote:
> Is here a way to turn off the "Slowness detected" popup?
> It comes up all the time when I'm working in NB, usually due to 4-5
> seconds "slowness".
> The popup gets rather distracting after a while, and I noticed that I'm
> confusing it with my "new important e-mail" popup (which has similar
> size and also fades in and out at the bottom of the screen).
>
> -- Niklas Matthies
>

[68cat] Slowness detection popup

2009-11-25T08:12:06Z

Is here a way to turn off the "Slowness detected" popup?
It comes up all the time when I'm working in NB, usually due to 4-5
seconds "slowness".
The popup gets rather distracting after a while, and I noticed that I'm
confusing it with my "new important e-mail" popup (which has similar
size and also fades in and out at the bottom of the screen).

-- Niklas Matthies

[68cat] Re: [news] NetCAT Status Report - 9.

2009-11-25T07:30:53Z

Resolved offline. Thanks for the notice Ingo.

-Jirka

Ingo Reinhart wrote:

> Hi!
>
>> <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeans68TutorialsForCommunityReview>
>> BTW, many PHP tutorials
>> were added too. :-)
>
> Thx! I review one (or more if requested).
>
> But "NetBeans IDE PHP Quick Start Tutorial" is duplicated on the wiki page.
>
> Best Regards,
> Ingo

[68cat] RE: "?" acts as if I were in insertion mode or deletes next caracter

2009-11-25T07:05:57Z

On Wed, 25. Nov 2009 14:09, Alied Pérez Martínez wrote:
> Hi, have you ever noticed [1]?

Doesn't happen here (build 200911220201).

-- Niklas Matthies

> [1] https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177580

[68cat] Re: Re: [news] NetCAT Status Report - 9.

2009-11-25T06:51:16Z

Nigel, this is only a preview that does not work. Once RC1 gets released, you will be able to submit your answers.

Thanks for your understanding,
-Jirka

Nigel Leck wrote:

> I got the following error when I tried to do the survey. There is one
> bug that I did want to highlight #176320
>
> |
> Change Rejected
> The change you wanted was rejected.
> Maybe you tried to change something you didn't have access to?

[68cat] [core] 50 updates?

2009-11-25T06:27:10Z

After taking two updates against 200911241400, I'm seeing 50 more
available. Is that right? Should we pull those?

--
____________________________________________________________
Glenn Holmer gholmer@...
Software Engineer phone: 414-908-1809
Weyco Group, Inc. fax: 414-908-1601

[68cat] "?" acts as if I were in insertion mode or deletes next caracter

2009-11-25T05:08:35Z

Hi, have you ever noticed [1]?

[1] https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177580

[68cat] [news] NetCAT Status Report - 9.

2009-11-24T23:50:06Z

Hi!

> <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeans68TutorialsForCommunityReview>
> BTW, many PHP tutorials
> were added too. :-)

Thx! I review one (or more if requested).

But "NetBeans IDE PHP Quick Start Tutorial" is duplicated on the wiki page.

Best Regards,
Ingo

[68cat] [installation][plugins] I received a Zip Exception during plugin activation.

2009-11-24T22:43:48Z

Team,

I just downloaded the 32bit Linux version of NB Full 200911241400 and installed it. During plugin activation I selected all plugins to activate. During the process I received a Zip Exception (id #307960).

I don't know what caused it (exception viewer didn't show much), but has anyone else seen this?

Eric M. Smith
Burning Sun Enterprises
http://typicalisoverrated.com

[68cat] Re: [deploy_on_save] How can I disable or change the deploy-on-save capabilities of a Struts app.

2009-11-24T17:29:25Z

Should be on your projects properties. Probably Run options, not sure.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Eric M. Smith <esmithbss@...> wrote:

I have a tendency to hit <Ctrl>-<S> frequently while developing; however, on Web applications like a Struts app, each time I save the file I'm working on, it does a deployment.

This would be great if I weren't typing fast enough that NB ends up getting far enough behind me that it's still deploying while I hit the next save.

How do I turn off the deployment on save?

Eric M. Smith
Burning Sun Enterprises
http://typicalisoverrated.com

[68cat] [deploy_on_save] How can I disable or change the deploy-on-save capabilities of a Struts app.

2009-11-24T15:19:01Z

I have a tendency to hit <Ctrl>-<S> frequently while developing; however, on Web applications like a Struts app, each time I save the file I'm working on, it does a deployment.

This would be great if I weren't typing fast enough that NB ends up getting far enough behind me that it's still deploying while I hit the next save.

How do I turn off the deployment on save?

Eric M. Smith
Burning Sun Enterprises
http://typicalisoverrated.com

[68cat] Re: [news] NetCAT Status Report - 9.

2009-11-24T14:52:37Z

I reported the hints issue, after briefly checking if there is an older one with resembling summary :-P

The issue is here: https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177549

All the best,

--
Claudiu Bulcu
Software Developer

"A wise person will listen and take in more instruction, and a man of understanding is the one who acquires skillful direction"

http://udy.smugmug.com
www.bulcu.ro

[68cat] Re: [news] NetCAT Status Report - 9.

2009-11-24T14:05:24Z

I know I've seen issues in America with projects during the October 31st => January 3rd time period due to the holiday and vacation schedules, and I'm sure other people have seen trends at work based on Vacation and National and Religious Holidays as well, but since there appears to be a major trailing off on the 6.7 and 6.8 NetCats, I wonder if there is any evidence of a trend based on time of year and user availability.

I would also find it interesting how the bugs line up over time with regards to the different technologies NetBeans provides. Questions like:

Do bug reports for a given technology go up when the technology is discussed in the NetCat forum?
Are there correlations between issue reports for different technologies? As one goes up, the other goes up.
Are there correlations between issues and enhancement requests for a given technology.

Granted, some of the numbers will be very low (single and double digits) but I would still find it interesting to know how the whole process progresses.

Eric M. Smith
Burning Sun Enterprises
http://typicalisoverrated.com

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Jiri Kovalsky <Jiri.Kovalsky@...> wrote:

Hello NetCAT team,

   if you need an update on what happened in NetCAT program last week, read below.

1. Overall summary

   Past week was pretty similar to the previous one. Many of you still keep submitting new bugs which generated relatively high income of ~12.4 defects per day. This is one of the reasons why we are moving towards RC1 slower than expected. :-( 24 people participated in e-mail discussions about many interesting topics. The average traffic was ~12.6 messages daily. We are glad to see that you are eager to communicate this much even so close to the release. FYI, I am attaching 2 charts comparing activity from the last 3 NetCAT programs. Let's elaborate the latest feedback now.

2. Important stuff

Source code repository was cloned for the final NetBeans 6.8 stabilization over the weekend and trunk is now open for NetBeans 6.9 integrations. Unfortunately, we are tracking 13 showstopper bugs so whether RC1 will make it this week (Thursday) or not is questionable.

If you are curious what Community Acceptance survey for NetBeans 6.8 will look like, you can get familiar with its preview [1] already now. The CA survey will be launched together with RC1 release.

[1] http://qa.netbeans.org/processes/cat/68/ca_survey_preview.html

We would very much appreciate if you could help us review 6.8 specific tutorials. If you have time, please choose one [2] and follow instructions on that Wiki page. BTW, many PHP tutorials were added too. :-)

[2] http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeans68TutorialsForCommunityReview

Ulf Zibis pointed out that Copy/Paste buttons in Editor toolbar were disabled under some circumstances. Scott Palmer added more investigations and helped us reproduce the problem (#177041). This showstopper will be fixed in RC1. Thanks guys!

Claudiu Bulcu initiated a thread about what annotation is better for interface/abstract class method implementations. He thinks @Implements should be used in such cases instead of @Overrides. This dilemma is being discussed (#118928) since October 2007 already. :-) Did you file the tooltip bug Claudiu?

Although tireless Eric Smith and also Scott noticed significant improvements in performance of classpath scanning, code completion etc. they are still convinced we can do better for instance when switching project groups. David Strupl provided some optimization tips but also a switch for fine logging if anyone faces long response times often.

Glenn Holmer reminded that sorting buttons in Search Results window are still gone (#119818) and also reported serious regression in XHTML Editor (#177088) causing almost all attributes flagged as error. While the first thing is still not finished, we consider the latter as showstopper for RC1.

We don't recommend using NetBeans 6.8 with JDK 7 unless you download [3] a special build for this new version of Java. In the other case you risk compilation errors (#177043) from built-in javac.

[3] http://bertram.netbeans.org/hudson/job/jdk7

3. Bug hunting

Michael Bar-Sinai found out that his Go To Implementation plugin for NetBeans 6.7 does not work in NetBeans 6.8 (#177084). Jan Lahoda promptly rebuilt it against 6.8 sources and uploaded new version to his Update Center.

We can't reproduce classpath scanning started during debugging session (#174668). Stefan Wilfling, Neil Green or Glenn Holmer, did you encounter this recently? We need more logs.

Michael Santos Nascimento reported a NPE thrown from Debugger (#176887). This regression was fixed within 2.5 hours.

Niklas Matthies decided to delete many folders with ~1.000 files from his EJB project but IDE got unresponsive during that operation (#177014). Niklas, can you try deleting a copy of that project one more time and producing 2-3 FTDs, profiler snapshot or memory dumps? Thanks!

Javier Ortiz discovered that changing properties of a breakpoint can end up with an error dialog (#176932) and unusable debugger. This issue was accepted as RC1 showstopper and is fixed already. Good catch Javier.

Best bug reporters of the previous week was again Eric Smith with 13 submitted issues.

4. Statistics

Bugs submitted: 782 (+87)
Open bugs:      299 (0/13/242/44)
E-mails:        977 (+88)

Any ideas for the next status report? Let me know!

Best regards,
-Jirka

Re: [68cat] [news] NetCAT Status Report - 9.

2009-11-24T13:11:26Z

I got the following error when I tried to do the survey. There is one bug that I did want to highlight #176320


    Change Rejected
    The change you wanted was rejected.
    Maybe you tried to change something you didn't have access to?

[68cat] [news] NetCAT Status Report - 9.

2009-11-24T11:46:26Z

Hello NetCAT team,

if you need an update on what happened in NetCAT program last week, read below.

1. Overall summary

Past week was pretty similar to the previous one. Many of you still keep submitting new bugs which generated relatively high income of ~12.4 defects per day. This is one of the reasons why we are moving towards RC1 slower than expected. :-( 24 people participated in e-mail discussions about many interesting topics. The average traffic was ~12.6 messages daily. We are glad to see that you are eager to communicate this much even so close to the release. FYI, I am attaching 2 charts comparing activity from the last 3 NetCAT programs. Let's elaborate the latest feedback now.

2. Important stuff

Source code repository was cloned for the final NetBeans 6.8 stabilization over the weekend and trunk is now open for NetBeans 6.9 integrations. Unfortunately, we are tracking 13 showstopper bugs so whether RC1 will make it this week (Thursday) or not is questionable.

If you are curious what Community Acceptance survey for NetBeans 6.8 will look like, you can get familiar with its preview [1] already now. The CA survey will be launched together with RC1 release.

[1] http://qa.netbeans.org/processes/cat/68/ca_survey_preview.html

We would very much appreciate if you could help us review 6.8 specific tutorials. If you have time, please choose one [2] and follow instructions on that Wiki page. BTW, many PHP tutorials were added too. :-)

[2] http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeans68TutorialsForCommunityReview

Ulf Zibis pointed out that Copy/Paste buttons in Editor toolbar were disabled under some circumstances. Scott Palmer added more investigations and helped us reproduce the problem (#177041). This showstopper will be fixed in RC1. Thanks guys!

Claudiu Bulcu initiated a thread about what annotation is better for interface/abstract class method implementations. He thinks @Implements should be used in such cases instead of @Overrides. This dilemma is being discussed (#118928) since October 2007 already. :-) Did you file the tooltip bug Claudiu?

Although tireless Eric Smith and also Scott noticed significant improvements in performance of classpath scanning, code completion etc. they are still convinced we can do better for instance when switching project groups. David Strupl provided some optimization tips but also a switch for fine logging if anyone faces long response times often.

Glenn Holmer reminded that sorting buttons in Search Results window are still gone (#119818) and also reported serious regression in XHTML Editor (#177088) causing almost all attributes flagged as error. While the first thing is still not finished, we consider the latter as showstopper for RC1.

We don't recommend using NetBeans 6.8 with JDK 7 unless you download [3] a special build for this new version of Java. In the other case you risk compilation errors (#177043) from built-in javac.

[3] http://bertram.netbeans.org/hudson/job/jdk7

3. Bug hunting

Michael Bar-Sinai found out that his Go To Implementation plugin for NetBeans 6.7 does not work in NetBeans 6.8 (#177084). Jan Lahoda promptly rebuilt it against 6.8 sources and uploaded new version to his Update Center.

We can't reproduce classpath scanning started during debugging session (#174668). Stefan Wilfling, Neil Green or Glenn Holmer, did you encounter this recently? We need more logs.

Michael Santos Nascimento reported a NPE thrown from Debugger (#176887). This regression was fixed within 2.5 hours.

Niklas Matthies decided to delete many folders with ~1.000 files from his EJB project but IDE got unresponsive during that operation (#177014). Niklas, can you try deleting a copy of that project one more time and producing 2-3 FTDs, profiler snapshot or memory dumps? Thanks!

Javier Ortiz discovered that changing properties of a breakpoint can end up with an error dialog (#176932) and unusable debugger. This issue was accepted as RC1 showstopper and is fixed already. Good catch Javier.

Best bug reporters of the previous week was again Eric Smith with 13 submitted issues.

4. Statistics

Bugs submitted: 782 (+87)
Open bugs: 299 (0/13/242/44)
E-mails: 977 (+88)

Any ideas for the next status report? Let me know!

Best regards,
-Jirka

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[68cat] Re: RE: Re: Strange behavior in scrollbars when netbeans is maximized

2009-11-24T11:36:33Z

Sounds like what I experienced with the CASA editor (bug 138971). When the editor window hit a specific size or larger, the scrollbars would enter a continuous loop of add/remove from the editor pane.

for bug 138971, when I shrunk the window, or wasn't maximized, the scrollbars behaved very differently.

FWIW: It took almost 5 months before the dev team was able to reproduce bug 138971. It appears (based on going back to the bug report) that it was a Linux specific issue (not for Windows).

The apparent view is that when the window gets to the size where the scrollbars are/aren't needed, then the editor scrollbars go haywire.

To verify, try to resize the window down and see if it still exists.

The solution to bug 138971 was to force a property that always displays the scrollbars. I hope this helps.

Eric M. Smith
Burning Sun Enterprises
http://typicalisoverrated.com

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Leed III, John P <john.leediii@...> wrote:

Not me either: Build 200911220201, Java 1.6.0u17, Windows XP SP3, 1280x1024x2 32bit

John Leed

-----Original Message-----
From: Alied Pérez Martínez [mailto:aliedperezmartinez@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:56 AM
To: netcat@...
Subject: [68cat] Re: Strange behavior in scrollbars when netbeans is maximized

Not me:
Product Version: NetBeans IDE Dev (Build 200911230200)
Java: 1.7.0-ea; Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM 16.0-b06
System: Windows Vista version 6.0 running on x86; Cp1252; es_ES (nb)
(1280X800, 32bit)

El 24/11/2009 12:47, Manuel Carrizo escribió:
> I've filled this bug https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177527
> Is anyone able to reproduce it?
>
> Regards, Manuel

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[68cat] RE: Re: Strange behavior in scrollbars when netbeans is maximized

2009-11-24T08:00:47Z

Not me either: Build 200911220201, Java 1.6.0u17, Windows XP SP3, 1280x1024x2 32bit

John Leed

-----Original Message-----
From: Alied Pérez Martínez [mailto:aliedperezmartinez@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:56 AM
To: netcat@...
Subject: [68cat] Re: Strange behavior in scrollbars when netbeans is maximized

Not me:
Product Version: NetBeans IDE Dev (Build 200911230200)
Java: 1.7.0-ea; Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM 16.0-b06
System: Windows Vista version 6.0 running on x86; Cp1252; es_ES (nb)
(1280X800, 32bit)

El 24/11/2009 12:47, Manuel Carrizo escribió:
> I've filled this bug https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177527
> Is anyone able to reproduce it?
>
> Regards, Manuel

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[68cat] Re: Strange behavior in scrollbars when netbeans is maximized

2009-11-24T07:56:21Z

Not me:
Product Version: NetBeans IDE Dev (Build 200911230200)
Java: 1.7.0-ea; Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM 16.0-b06
System: Windows Vista version 6.0 running on x86; Cp1252; es_ES (nb)
(1280X800, 32bit)

El 24/11/2009 12:47, Manuel Carrizo escribió:
> I've filled this bug https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177527
> Is anyone able to reproduce it?
>
> Regards, Manuel

[68cat] Strange behavior in scrollbars when netbeans is maximized

2009-11-24T07:47:00Z

I've filled this bug https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177527
Is anyone able to reproduce it?

Regards, Manuel