Netbooks good for FreeBSD?

[Yuri-10]

I am thinking about buying a netbook. But I am afraid that WiFi wouldn't
be supported. And all my previous attempts to make NDIS to work on
FreeBSD failed.
There is a page about Asus Eee: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee with
mixed results.
Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines?

I was thinking about Lenovo S10-2.

Is there a hardware compatibility list for FreeBSD?

Yuri
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[Lars Engels-2]

Quoting Yuri <yuri@...>:

> I am thinking about buying a netbook. But I am afraid that WiFi
> wouldn't be supported. And all my previous attempts to make NDIS to
> work on FreeBSD failed.
> There is a page about Asus Eee: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee with
> mixed results.
> Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines?
>
> I was thinking about Lenovo S10-2.
>
> Is there a hardware compatibility list for FreeBSD?

There's a Laptop compat list at http://laptop.bsdgroup.de
Perhaps you can find some Netbooks there, too.

["K.André Braselmann"-2]

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:35:36PM -0700, Yuri wrote:

> Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines?

The problem is that the chipsets and components are changing rapidly.
Especially for wlan. Always cheaper,cheaper,cheaper.
Take a live CD, go to the shop, boot from an external CD Rom and
you'll see.

Or buy a 3 year old X32 for 200 Euro, new hdd, some ram, and you've 12"
and EVERYTHING works out of the box.

André
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[Warren Block]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Yuri wrote:

> I am thinking about buying a netbook. But I am afraid that WiFi wouldn't be
> supported. And all my previous attempts to make NDIS to work on FreeBSD
> failed.

The Atheros AR5007 (802.11b/g) works well with FreeBSD 8.  That card
comes with the Acer Aspire One AOA150 and I think some models of Asus
netbooks.  There was a Broadcom in an Acer notebook that had never
worked with FreeBSD, and replacing that with another AR5007 worked fine.
These mini-PCIe cards are easy to replace, at least if the physical
design of the computer makes them accessible.

A later model of Atheros, the AR5008X (AR5416), did not quite work with
FreeBSD:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-September/011768.html

> There is a page about Asus Eee: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee with
> mixed results.

They have a good group effort there.  Some of the information applies to
other brands of netbook, and it would be nice to see that expanded to
cover them.

> Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines?

Possibly.  The Aspire One does pretty well except for suspend/resume,
and I think that's a problem with FreeBSD on most or all SMP notebooks.

> I was thinking about Lenovo S10-2.

http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5902

> Is there a hardware compatibility list for FreeBSD?

http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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[Yuri-10]

Hello Warren,

Thank you for your very informative reply.

Warren Block wrote:
>> Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines?
>
> Possibly.  The Aspire One does pretty well except for suspend/resume,
> and I think that's a problem with FreeBSD on most or all SMP notebooks.
Will probably have to get Aspire One.

>> I was thinking about Lenovo S10-2.
>
> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5902
This is really strange that FreeBSD has problems on S10-2 since Ubuntu
seems to work there with only minor problems:
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Does-Ubuntu-have-full-dirver-for-S10-2/td-p/157074

Yuri

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> Take a live CD, go to the shop, boot from an external CD Rom and
> you'll see.
>
That was the way i bought my HP Pavilion dv6849er laptop. Just after taking it
home i have replaced Intel wifi mini-pcie card, wich was very poorly supported
(till novadays), with another one based on Atheros. Thats all, everything
works fine (except camera), and i'm become  a happy freebsd user.
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[osp]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 Andr <lists@...> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:35:36PM -0700, Yuri wrote:
>
>> Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines?
>
> The problem is that the chipsets and components are changing rapidly.
> Especially for wlan. Always cheaper,cheaper,cheaper.
> Take a live CD, go to the shop, boot from an external CD Rom and
> you'll see.

Is there a FreeBSD live cd? Or do you imply using, say, Ubuntu?
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[Matt Olander-2]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Gary Dunn <osp@...> wrote:

>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 Andr  <lists@...> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:35:36PM -0700, Yuri wrote:
>>
>>> Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines?
>>
>> The problem is that the chipsets and components are changing rapidly.
>> Especially for wlan. Always cheaper,cheaper,cheaper.
>> Take a live CD, go to the shop, boot from an external CD Rom and
>> you'll see.
>
> Is there a FreeBSD live cd? Or do you imply using, say, Ubuntu?

The latest PC-BSD alpha is now a live DVD. It's based on 8-RC1 and
would be good for testing potential systems for compatibility.

-matt
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[Takashi Inoue]

> I am thinking about buying a netbook. But I am afraid that WiFi
> wouldn't be supported. And all my previous attempts to make NDIS to
> work on FreeBSD failed.
> There is a page about Asus Eee: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee with
> mixed results.
> Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines?
>
> I was thinking about Lenovo S10-2.
I wonder why you choose FreeBSD because ATOM N270 has a Hyper-threading
and hence support a parallel processing. However, on FreeBSD with SMP
kernel,
ACPI suspend/resume is not possible.  For netbook, suspend/resume shold
be important.
Most of popular OS except for FreeBSD,  support a suspend/resume with
parallel processing,
 eg. Windows, Linux. I recomend you to reconsider.

Cheers,
T.I.


>
> Is there a hardware compatibility list for FreeBSD?
>
> Yuri
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[Scott Lambert]

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:18:04PM +0900, Takashi Inoue wrote:
> I wonder why you choose FreeBSD because ATOM N270 has a
> Hyper-threading and hence support a parallel processing. However, on
> FreeBSD with SMP kernel, ACPI suspend/resume is not possible.  For
> netbook, suspend/resume shold be important.  Most of popular OS except
> for FreeBSD, support a suspend/resume with parallel processing,
> eg. Windows, Linux. I recomend you to reconsider.

Things may have changed since the last time you tried.

Suspend resume works fine on my 64bit, core2duo, Acer Travelmate,
FreeBSD 8 with a GENERIC kernel.  SMP is enabled.

The only thing that doesn't work well in my Acer is the iwn driver.

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[Yuri-10]

I am answering myself: I installed FreeBSD-80-RC2 on Lenovo Thinkpad S10-2.
Most everything works out of the box: it boots, finds network card, X
with KDE4 works.
WiFi doesn't work: it came with Broadcom BCM94312MCGSG and it has to be
replaced.
Webcam doesn't work: expected.

Yuri


Yuri wrote:

> I am thinking about buying a netbook. But I am afraid that WiFi
> wouldn't be supported. And all my previous attempts to make NDIS to
> work on FreeBSD failed.
> There is a page about Asus Eee: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee with
> mixed results.
> Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines?
>
> I was thinking about Lenovo S10-2.
>
> Is there a hardware compatibility list for FreeBSD?
>
> Yuri
>

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