Network problems in a MAC World

[Mark C. Miller]

The school I teach at is predominately a Mac facility.  All the servers
are MACs as are the general purpose computer labs. We have four special
purpose labs that use PCs.

A recent effort to increase use of OOo has suffered because of a problem
saving files to Mac servers.

Students have individual accounts on the school's servers.  When a
student goes to "File" "Save" [or "save as"], an error message is
generated; I'm told there are about six different ones all dealing with
"unable to save" in some fashion.

Sorry I lack the specifics, but they weren't shared with me.  I was asked
to research the question of any known problems with OOo on Mac computers
(Intel chiped) and PCs (most P4s; running XP) and Mac networks.  I'm not
being asked to offer solutions.

If anyone can speak to known issues, I would appreciate it.

tnx

mcm


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[Jonathon Blake]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 22:17, Mark C. Miller

> Sorry I lack the specifics, but they weren't shared with me.  I was asked to research the question of any known problems with OOo on Mac computers (Intel chiped) and PCs (most P4s; running XP) and Mac networks.

Right off the  bat, I'd suggest  it is PEBKAC, or rather the Sysadmin,
instead of the specific user, and more specifically, a failure to
assign adequate permissions to OOo.

Without specific error messages, it is virtually  impossible to know
whether or not it is the most common error (PEBKAC), or a known OOo
issue, or something else.

jonathon

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[Mathias Bauer]

Mark C. Miller wrote:

> The school I teach at is predominately a Mac facility.  All the servers
> are MACs as are the general purpose computer labs. We have four special
> purpose labs that use PCs.
>
> A recent effort to increase use of OOo has suffered because of a problem
> saving files to Mac servers.
>
> Students have individual accounts on the school's servers.  When a
> student goes to "File" "Save" [or "save as"], an error message is
> generated; I'm told there are about six different ones all dealing with
> "unable to save" in some fashion.
>
> Sorry I lack the specifics, but they weren't shared with me.  I was asked
> to research the question of any known problems with OOo on Mac computers
> (Intel chiped) and PCs (most P4s; running XP) and Mac networks.  I'm not
> being asked to offer solutions.
>
> If anyone can speak to known issues, I would appreciate it.

You didn't tell us which version of OOo exactly you are using. If it's a
3.x version a possible problem may be that the server configuration
prevents the creation of OOo lock files.

Regards,
Mathias


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[mike scott-2]

Mathias Bauer wrote:

> Mark C. Miller wrote:
>
>> The school I teach at is predominately a Mac facility.  All the servers
>> are MACs as are the general purpose computer labs. We have four special
>> purpose labs that use PCs.
>>
>> A recent effort to increase use of OOo has suffered because of a problem
>> saving files to Mac servers.
>>
>> Students have individual accounts on the school's servers.  When a
>> student goes to "File" "Save" [or "save as"], an error message is
>> generated; I'm told there are about six different ones all dealing with
>> "unable to save" in some fashion.
>>
>> Sorry I lack the specifics, but they weren't shared with me.  I was asked
>> to research the question of any known problems with OOo on Mac computers
>> (Intel chiped) and PCs (most P4s; running XP) and Mac networks.  I'm not
>> being asked to offer solutions.
>>
>> If anyone can speak to known issues, I would appreciate it.
>
> You didn't tell us which version of OOo exactly you are using. If it's a
> 3.x version a possible problem may be that the server configuration
> prevents the creation of OOo lock files.
>
> Regards,
> Mathias
>
>

This may be a complete red herring, but I'll chip in anyway, because the
setup seems vaguely similar.

My home network consists of a freebsd server running samba, shares from
this being mounted by my XP machines, flagged for reconnect at logon in
each case.

This normally works transparently; however, if I have a document open,
and let the XP machine hibernate, then future saves are problematic. A
simple 'save' gives a write error (I /think/ from memory some sort of
'general i/o' error). But if I 'save as' to the very same network
folder, this works and also seems to fix the problem (until the next
hibernate); alternatively, opening the folder with Explorer before
trying to 'save' the open file is also a workaround (although a little
warning voice in my head is trying to say 'sometimes only'). Presumably
there's some internal glitch in XP's remounting of the network drive,
maybe the same sort of thing occurs with the Mac servers. (Thunderbird
seems to have a similar problem with a lock file on such a network
drive, which occurs rather unpredictably.)

OOo 3.x btw, but unchanged since v2. XP is at SP2 patch level.

The OP doesn't say whether the problem occurs always, always for some
users, sometimes only -- that might be useful info. First-hand reports
are probably better than passed-on ones!!

Apologies if this is completely wide of the mark.


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[Abilene Trophies]

This must be an answer to someone else's question.
I am running the latest version of Open Office and recently downloaded the
latest version of Google Chrome Browser.

My problem is copy/paste from Open Office to Gmail when using Google Chrome
Browser.

I was haveing to paste to another office suite, then copy the text again and
fro there i was able to paste to Gmail in Google's Chrome Browser.

No other browsers or other emails were giving me this problem.

This may be fixed since I just downloaded Chrome yesterday.

Thank you for replying but I think your answer here may be for someone else
unless I am misreading the message.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Mathias Bauer <nospamforMBA@...> wrote:

> Mark C. Miller wrote:
>
> > The school I teach at is predominately a Mac facility.  All the servers
> > are MACs as are the general purpose computer labs. We have four special
> > purpose labs that use PCs.
> >
> > A recent effort to increase use of OOo has suffered because of a problem
> > saving files to Mac servers.
> >
> > Students have individual accounts on the school's servers.  When a
> > student goes to "File" "Save" [or "save as"], an error message is
> > generated; I'm told there are about six different ones all dealing with
> > "unable to save" in some fashion.
> >
> > Sorry I lack the specifics, but they weren't shared with me.  I was asked
> > to research the question of any known problems with OOo on Mac computers
> > (Intel chiped) and PCs (most P4s; running XP) and Mac networks.  I'm not
> > being asked to offer solutions.
> >
> > If anyone can speak to known issues, I would appreciate it.
>
> You didn't tell us which version of OOo exactly you are using. If it's a
> 3.x version a possible problem may be that the server configuration
> prevents the creation of OOo lock files.
>
> Regards,
> Mathias
>
>
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> OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
> Please don't reply to "nospamformba@...".
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[Mathias Bauer]

Hi,

the answer was exactly to the mail I have quoted. That's what quotes are
for. ;-)

Regards,
Mathias

Abilene Trophies wrote:

> This must be an answer to someone else's question.
> I am running the latest version of Open Office and recently downloaded the
> latest version of Google Chrome Browser.
>
> My problem is copy/paste from Open Office to Gmail when using Google Chrome
> Browser.
>
> I was haveing to paste to another office suite, then copy the text again and
> fro there i was able to paste to Gmail in Google's Chrome Browser.
>
> No other browsers or other emails were giving me this problem.
>
> This may be fixed since I just downloaded Chrome yesterday.
>
> Thank you for replying but I think your answer here may be for someone else
> unless I am misreading the message.
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Mathias Bauer <nospamforMBA@...> wrote:
>
>> Mark C. Miller wrote:
>>
>> > The school I teach at is predominately a Mac facility.  All the servers
>> > are MACs as are the general purpose computer labs. We have four special
>> > purpose labs that use PCs.
>> >
>> > A recent effort to increase use of OOo has suffered because of a problem
>> > saving files to Mac servers.
>> >
>> > Students have individual accounts on the school's servers.  When a
>> > student goes to "File" "Save" [or "save as"], an error message is
>> > generated; I'm told there are about six different ones all dealing with
>> > "unable to save" in some fashion.
>> >
>> > Sorry I lack the specifics, but they weren't shared with me.  I was asked
>> > to research the question of any known problems with OOo on Mac computers
>> > (Intel chiped) and PCs (most P4s; running XP) and Mac networks.  I'm not
>> > being asked to offer solutions.
>> >
>> > If anyone can speak to known issues, I would appreciate it.
>>
>> You didn't tell us which version of OOo exactly you are using. If it's a
>> 3.x version a possible problem may be that the server configuration
>> prevents the creation of OOo lock files.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mathias
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mathias Bauer (mba) - Project Lead OpenOffice.org Writer
>> OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
>> Please don't reply to "nospamformba@...".
>> I use it for the OOo lists and only rarely read other mails sent to it.
>>
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