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by leke :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

I have just come from an old version of DreamWeaver. What's Amaya's support for CSS like? Any problems I should know about before I spend days learning the software?

Are there any other Amaya forums/newsgroups out there? My search came up ZERO.

Thanks.

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by Thomas Jedenfelt :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Leke,

There is a list of open bugs at the Amaya site (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/).

Regards,
Thomas Jedenfelt


 ----- Original Message -----
From: leke <r3bol@...>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007

Hi,

I have just come from an old version of DreamWeaver. What's Amaya's support
for CSS like? Any problems I should know about before I spend days learning
the software?

Are there any other Amaya forums/newsgroups out there? My search came up
ZERO.

Thanks.

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Amaya open Bugs

by "~:'' ありがとうございました" :: Rate this Message:

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the open buglist is remarkably concise.

Are open bugs filed elsewhere?

for instance: is foreignobject support complete?

cheers

Jonathan Chetwynd

I reported a bug around 13/1/2007 to the list
it never made it.




Re: New to Amaya

by Irene Vatton :: Rate this Message:

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On Sunday 21 January 2007 12:46, leke wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have just come from an old version of DreamWeaver. What's Amaya's support
> for CSS like? Any problems I should know about before I spend days learning
> the software?

The Web page http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/CSSStatus.html gives the current
state of the CSS implementation in Amaya
This page is refered by User and Developer documentation and FAQ

> Are there any other Amaya forums/newsgroups out there? My search came up
> ZERO.
>
> Thanks.

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Re: Amaya open Bugs

by Irene Vatton :: Rate this Message:

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On Sunday 21 January 2007 19:59, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:
> the open buglist is remarkably concise.

Bugs are added to the list normally when we're sure we can reproduce it.
And they are removed when a release fixes it.
Registered bugs which will be fixed in the next release are greyed.

> Are open bugs filed elsewhere?
>
> for instance: is foreignobject support complete?

Normally the SVG foreignobject element is supported.
Did you detect a bug?

> cheers
>
> Jonathan Chetwynd
>
> I reported a bug around 13/1/2007 to the list
> it never made it.

I didn't register your bug report (crash: <rect rx="5" ry="5") because this
bug was already fixed in the CVS version when it was reported.
The list of open bugs is now updated.

Regards
     Irène.
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Parent Message unknown Re: SVG foreignobject Bug

by "~:'' ありがとうございました" :: Rate this Message:

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Irène

thanks for your comment, I notice the attachment was replaced by:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=233380
where embed is enclosed by object. object alone does not function in  
camino or webkit ~:"

please provide foreignobject code to play a sound.

cheers

Jonathan Chetwynd


     <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
       <body>
                <object src="http://www.peepo.co.uk/temp/splat0.mp3">
                        <embed src="http://www.peepo.co.uk/temp/splat0.mp3" />
                </object>
       </body>

     </html>

On 23 Jan 2007, at 08:39, Irene Vatton wrote:

On Monday 22 January 2007 20:59, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:
> Irène,
>
> I don't find this the most natural means to open bugs but please try:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=228810
>
> works well enough in mozilla and safari webkit.
>
> if you can register this as a bug, i can pass some more your way ~:"

With the CVS Amaya version, the document is correctly parsed but  
nothing is
displayed, like with firefox. What is expected?
By the way, do you know that <embed> is not a valid XHTML tag?


> Jonathan Chetwynd
>
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?>
>
> <svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"
>       xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"
> width="100%" height="100%"
>
>
>    <foreignObject x="250" y="-100" width="380" height="180">
>      <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
>        <body>
>                  <div id="mysound"><embed src="http://www.peepo.co.uk/
> temp/splat0.mp3" /></div>
>        </body>
>
>      </html>
>    </foreignObject>
>    </svg>
>
> On 22 Jan 2007, at 15:43, Irene Vatton wrote:
>
> On Sunday 21 January 2007 19:59, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:
>> the open buglist is remarkably concise.
>
> Bugs are added to the list normally when we're sure we can  
> reproduce it.
> And they are removed when a release fixes it.
> Registered bugs which will be fixed in the next release are greyed.
>
>> Are open bugs filed elsewhere?
>>
>> for instance: is foreignobject support complete?
>
> Normally the SVG foreignobject element is supported.
> Did you detect a bug?
>
>> cheers
>>
>> Jonathan Chetwynd
>>
>> I reported a bug around 13/1/2007 to the list
>> it never made it.
>
> I didn't register your bug report (crash: <rect rx="5" ry="5")
> because this
> bug was already fixed in the CVS version when it was reported.
> The list of open bugs is now updated.
>
> Regards
>       Irène.
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> INRIA                               ZIRST
> e-mail: Irene.Vatton@...       655 avenue de l'Europe
> Tel.: +33 4 76 61 53 61             Montbonnot
> Fax:  +33 4 76 61 52 07             38334 Saint Ismier Cedex - France

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Parent Message unknown oops: SVG foreignobject Bug

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Irène

oops,

my apologies, too early in the morning, and in a rush...

A way to play a sound using foreignobject.

<object>  alone doesn't seem to be supported in this way by any  
player though <embed> is.

regards

Jonathan Chetwynd

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?>

<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"
      xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"

width="100%" height="100%"
 >

   <foreignObject x="250" y="-100" width="380" height="180">
     <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
       <body>
                 <div id="mysound"><object src="http://
www.peepo.co.uk/temp/splat0.mp3" /></div>
       </body>

     </html>

   </foreignObject>
   </svg>





RE: oops: SVG foreignobject Bug

by Steven Gilham :: Rate this Message:

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In general, the object tag requires a number of other parameters to hint to the browser what type of player is required.  For example, to embed an HTML page

<object classid="clsid:25336920-03F9-11CF-8FD0-00AA00686F13" type="text/html"
         data="httpthe URL goes here" style="width:???;height:???">
    Alternative content
</object></td>

I believe that IE needs the COM Object GUID, and Moz-familiy browsers use the MIME-type



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From: www-amaya-request@... [mailto:www-amaya-request@...] On Behalf Of Jonathan Chetwynd
Sent: 23 January 2007 15:24
To: Irene.Vatton@...
Cc: www-amaya@...
Subject: oops: SVG foreignobject Bug


Irène

oops,

my apologies, too early in the morning, and in a rush...

A way to play a sound using foreignobject.

<object>  alone doesn't seem to be supported in this way by any  
player though <embed> is.

regards

Jonathan Chetwynd

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?>

<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"
      xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"

width="100%" height="100%"
 >

   <foreignObject x="250" y="-100" width="380" height="180">
     <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
       <body>
                 <div id="mysound"><object src="http://
www.peepo.co.uk/temp/splat0.mp3" /></div>
       </body>

     </html>

   </foreignObject>
   </svg>




Re: oops: SVG foreignobject Bug

by "~:'' ありがとうございました" :: Rate this Message:

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Steven,

Opera, Webkit and Mozilla all play the sound file fine in html,  
however none currently support foreignobject to play audio in this way.
Amaya doesn't do either, moved bug report to subject:
<object> audio broken for html & SVG

cheers

Jonathan Chetwynd



On 23 Jan 2007, at 18:10, Steven Gilham wrote:


In general, the object tag requires a number of other parameters to  
hint to the browser what type of player is required.  For example, to  
embed an HTML page

<object classid="clsid:25336920-03F9-11CF-8FD0-00AA00686F13"  
type="text/html"
          data="httpthe URL goes here" style="width:???;height:???">
     Alternative content
</object></td>

I believe that IE needs the COM Object GUID, and Moz-familiy browsers  
use the MIME-type



-----Original Message-----
From: www-amaya-request@... [mailto:www-amaya-request@...] On  
Behalf Of Jonathan Chetwynd
Sent: 23 January 2007 15:24
To: Irene.Vatton@...
Cc: www-amaya@...
Subject: oops: SVG foreignobject Bug


Irène

oops,

my apologies, too early in the morning, and in a rush...

A way to play a sound using foreignobject.

<object>  alone doesn't seem to be supported in this way by any
player though <embed> is.

regards

Jonathan Chetwynd

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?>

<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"
       xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"

width="100%" height="100%"
>

    <foreignObject x="250" y="-100" width="380" height="180">
      <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
        <body>
                  <div id="mysound"><object src="http://
www.peepo.co.uk/temp/splat0.mp3" /></div>
        </body>

      </html>

    </foreignObject>
    </svg>






Re: oops: SVG foreignobject Bug

by Stanimir Stamenkov :: Rate this Message:

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/Steven Gilham/:

> In general, the object tag requires a number of other parameters
> to hint to the browser what type of player is required.  For
> example, to embed an HTML page
>
> <object classid="clsid:25336920-03F9-11CF-8FD0-00AA00686F13" type="text/html"
>          data="httpthe URL goes here" style="width:???;height:???">
>     Alternative content
> </object></td>

'classid' is not required and should really be deprecated as one may
see it is even dropped in the development of XHTML 2.0
<http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-object.html#s_objectmodule>.  I've
ever wondered why would anyone be enabled to force me using specific
plug-in for handling specific data type.

> I believe that IE needs the COM Object GUID, and Moz-familiy
> browsers use the MIME-type

IE goes without 'classid' too but with some limitations.  You could
read "Embedding Flash While Supporting Standards"
<http://alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay>, for example.

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