New website blurb

[Eric Wasylishen-2]

Hi,
I put a new "introductory paragraph" on http://etoileos.com/. I think
it will be more effective at getting visitors
interested..comments/feedback?
I wanted to give some concrete examples of ways in which Etoile will
improve the experience of using computers.

Does anyone object to using the phrase "Making computers suck less?"

-Eric

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[etoile-3]

> I put a new "introductory paragraph" on http://etoileos.com/. I think
> it will be more effective at getting visitors
> interested..comments/feedback?
> I wanted to give some concrete examples of ways in which Etoile will
> improve the experience of using computers.

The description is pretty good -- thanks for doing that. I think it  
could possibly be tweaked a bit -- I don't have time right now, but  
I'll try to get you some suggestions this weekend when I have more time.

I think we should also come up with some sort of graphic box for it to  
live in -- it feels like it just floats there as it currently is.

> Does anyone object to using the phrase "Making computers suck less?"

Not until we come up with something better ;)


J.



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[Sebastian Nowicki-3]

On Jul 14, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Eric Wasylishen wrote:

> Hi,
> I put a new "introductory paragraph" on http://etoileos.com/. I think
> it will be more effective at getting visitors
> interested..comments/feedback?

I think it's pretty good. However, depending on the target audience  
(average Joe, geeks?) I'm not so sure about the revision history part.  
The average Joe probably wouldn't really know what it was or why it's  
useful. Maybe "version tracking" (or whatever MS Word uses) would be a  
more self-explanatory term.

> Does anyone object to using the phrase "Making computers suck less?"

It's not very professional, but I would say it appeals to geeks. It  
reminds me a lot of http://www.suckless.org/

I think the "read more" site needs some expansion on the various  
concepts. At the moment it has a very brief overview of the goals, and  
mostly technical stuff (frameworks).

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[etoile-3]

> I think it's pretty good. However, depending on the target audience
> (average Joe, geeks?) I'm not so sure about the revision history part.
> The average Joe probably wouldn't really know what it was or why it's
> useful. Maybe "version tracking" (or whatever MS Word uses) would be a
> more self-explanatory term.
>
>> Does anyone object to using the phrase "Making computers suck less?"
>
> It's not very professional, but I would say it appeals to geeks. It
> reminds me a lot of http://www.suckless.org/
>
> I think the "read more" site needs some expansion on the various
> concepts. At the moment it has a very brief overview of the goals, and
> mostly technical stuff (frameworks).

I think our audience right now is geeks, so we're probably okay with  
more technical descriptions. We'll want to tweak some of the phrasings  
and explanations to be a bit more marketable once we get ready to  
release 0.5, though, since then we'll be targeting end users.

J.




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[Eric Wasylishen-2]

Thanks for the comments :)

>> I think it's pretty good. However, depending on the target audience
>> (average Joe, geeks?) I'm not so sure about the revision history  
>> part.
>> The average Joe probably wouldn't really know what it was or why it's
>> useful. Maybe "version tracking" (or whatever MS Word uses) would  
>> be a
>> more self-explanatory term.
We will want to define "revision/version tracking". The point that is  
appealing, and we should communicate, is that a user will never lose  
his work - even old versions of documents (unless he specifically  
request it).
>>
>>> Does anyone object to using the phrase "Making computers suck less?"
>>
>> It's not very professional, but I would say it appeals to geeks. It
>> reminds me a lot of http://www.suckless.org/
It is a bit amateur and immature - we can change at some point. I  
changed it to just "Making computers suck less" rather than "Etoile,  
or Making Computer Suck Less" for now.

>>
>> I think the "read more" site needs some expansion on the various
>> concepts. At the moment it has a very brief overview of the goals,  
>> and
>> mostly technical stuff (frameworks).
This has been on my to do list for a few months :)

> I think our audience right now is geeks, so we're probably okay with
> more technical descriptions. We'll want to tweak some of the phrasings
> and explanations to be a bit more marketable once we get ready to
> release 0.5, though, since then we'll be targeting end users.
Yup.

-Eric

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[Felix Holmgren]

Hi people,

I'm just starting to explore Etoile, think it's a very interesting
project and seems like GNUstep needs something like this to really
reach an audience. I'll post some of my initial thought and reactions
(to the web page etc) soon.

First things first though: the silc server. I'm sure silc is really
cool because... something, but it's not the most inviting protocol to
use. Fewer clients and not very good support. With Colloquy it's
mostly fine, but I haven't been able to connect with Pidgin. I don't
get joined into the discussion when I connect to the server, and in
the room list there is little that seems to have anything to do with
et.

So if anyone could share a little wizdom on how to get pidgin to silc,
please do.

Btw: I'm a freelance journalist and programmer, and right now I'm
mostly focusing on iPhone programming. I've also been interested in
Smalltalkish languages for a long time, as well as functional
languages. In general, I'm a great peruser of languages, but don't
have much practical experience of actually building useful things.
I've only been programming professionally for less than a year. Hope
to make myself useful to Etoile somehow!

/Felix

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