Newbie question

[Vipul Sagare]

I am using Synapse as proxy server and running AXIS2 web services on some other machines.

Where should configure the "web services server" when I start Synapse server?  Seems like- I missing something obvious..    Sample configurations(numbered ones) do not have explicit mention of the server.


Your help is appreciated..

Thanks,
Vipul



     

[Ruwan Linton]

Hi Vipul,

There is no configuration of the web services server for synapse, since it
is designed to work with any number of web services servers on anywhere. So
what you need to configure is the endpoint which you are proxying. For
example lets say you have 5 services on the axis2 web services server and
now you need to proxy those 5 services, and there are two approaches for you
to achieve this.

First of which is to create ProxyServices in the synapse server [
http://synapse.apache.org/Synapse_Configuration_Language.html#proxy] for
each and every web service and point to the corresponding actual service
through an endpoint in the proxy configuration. With this approach the
actual service details and its implementation is completely hidden to the
user and this gives the location transparency and many other advantages.

The other aproach requires the user to specify the actual endpoint but let
the message flow through synapse so that it will route the message. In this
case what you do is, you setup the main sequence of the ESB to act as the
router and directs the messages into the actual server. You could also do
CBR (Content Based Routing) without requiring the user to specify the
ultimate endpoint, if possible.

Hope this will help you!

You may go through;
[1] - http://wso2.org/library/2559
[2] - http://wso2.org/library/3422

Thanks,
Ruwan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Vipul Sagare <vipul_sagare@...>wrote:

> I am using Synapse as proxy server and running AXIS2 web services on some
> other machines.
>
> Where should configure the "web services server" when I start Synapse
> server?  Seems like- I missing something obvious..    Sample
> configurations(numbered ones) do not have explicit mention of the server.
>
>
> Your help is appreciated..
>
> Thanks,
> Vipul
>
>
>
>

--
Ruwan Linton
Technical Lead & Product Manager; WSO2 ESB; http://wso2.org/esb
WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org
email: ruwan@...; cell: [phone]
blog: http://ruwansblog.blogspot.com

[Vipul Sagare]

Thanks for info, Ruwan.

Here are couple of questions. -  Is release 1.2 of Synapse production quality?  What is track record for Synapse when it comes to "high availability" concerns?  

Could you point me in direction which would help me making a case for Synapse over any other product?

Thanks,
Vipul




________________________________
From: Ruwan Linton <ruwan.linton@...>
To: user@...
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:12:05 PM
Subject: Re: Newbie question

Hi Vipul,

There is no configuration of the web services server for synapse, since it
is designed to work with any number of web services servers on anywhere. So
what you need to configure is the endpoint which you are proxying. For
example lets say you have 5 services on the axis2 web services server and
now you need to proxy those 5 services, and there are two approaches for you
to achieve this.

First of which is to create ProxyServices in the synapse server [
http://synapse.apache.org/Synapse_Configuration_Language.html#proxy] for
each and every web service and point to the corresponding actual service
through an endpoint in the proxy configuration. With this approach the
actual service details and its implementation is completely hidden to the
user and this gives the location transparency and many other advantages.

The other aproach requires the user to specify the actual endpoint but let
the message flow through synapse so that it will route the message. In this
case what you do is, you setup the main sequence of the ESB to act as the
router and directs the messages into the actual server. You could also do
CBR (Content Based Routing) without requiring the user to specify the
ultimate endpoint, if possible.

Hope this will help you!

You may go through;
[1] - http://wso2.org/library/2559
[2] - http://wso2.org/library/3422

Thanks,
Ruwan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Vipul Sagare <vipul_sagare@...>wrote:

> I am using Synapse as proxy server and running AXIS2 web services on some
> other machines.
>
> Where should configure the "web services server" when I start Synapse
> server?  Seems like- I missing something obvious..    Sample
> configurations(numbered ones) do not have explicit mention of the server.
>
>
> Your help is appreciated..
>
> Thanks,
> Vipul
>
>
>
>

--
Ruwan Linton
Technical Lead & Product Manager; WSO2 ESB; http://wso2.org/esb
WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org
email: ruwan@...; cell: [phone]
blog: http://ruwansblog.blogspot.com



     

[Ruwan Linton]

Hi Vipul,

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Vipul Sagare <vipul_sagare@...>wrote:

> Thanks for info, Ruwan.
>
> Here are couple of questions. -  Is release 1.2 of Synapse production
> quality?  What is track record for Synapse when it comes to "high
> availability" concerns?


Yes, it is production quality... and many users are using it in production,
including the US Army, a Helth care organization in US, major insurance
company in US, mobile services company in US, large scale finance company in
walstreat (most of them uses WSO2 ESB <http://wso2.org/esb> except for the
US Army which uses Apache Synapse underneath).

You could find information on high availability of synapse from;

http://wso2.org/library/articles/wso2-esb-apache-synapse-clustering-guide
http://ruwansblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/scalability-availability-with-synapse.html


>
>
> Could you point me in direction which would help me making a case for
> Synapse over any other product?


We do not have any specific case studies for Synapse, but for WSO2 ESB we do
have a good set of case studies;

http://wso2.org/library/case-studies/concur-streamlines-corporate-reporting-wso2-open-source-soa-middleware
http://wso2.org/library/3325
http://wso2.org/library/3324

Hope this helps.. :-)

Thanks,
Ruwan

>
>
> Thanks,
> Vipul
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ruwan Linton <ruwan.linton@...>
> To: user@...
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Newbie question
>
> Hi Vipul,
>
> There is no configuration of the web services server for synapse, since it
> is designed to work with any number of web services servers on anywhere. So
> what you need to configure is the endpoint which you are proxying. For
> example lets say you have 5 services on the axis2 web services server and
> now you need to proxy those 5 services, and there are two approaches for
> you
> to achieve this.
>
> First of which is to create ProxyServices in the synapse server [
> http://synapse.apache.org/Synapse_Configuration_Language.html#proxy] for
> each and every web service and point to the corresponding actual service
> through an endpoint in the proxy configuration. With this approach the
> actual service details and its implementation is completely hidden to the
> user and this gives the location transparency and many other advantages.
>
> The other aproach requires the user to specify the actual endpoint but let
> the message flow through synapse so that it will route the message. In this
> case what you do is, you setup the main sequence of the ESB to act as the
> router and directs the messages into the actual server. You could also do
> CBR (Content Based Routing) without requiring the user to specify the
> ultimate endpoint, if possible.
>
> Hope this will help you!
>
> You may go through;
> [1] - http://wso2.org/library/2559
> [2] - http://wso2.org/library/3422
>
> Thanks,
> Ruwan
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Vipul Sagare <vipul_sagare@...
> >wrote:
>
> > I am using Synapse as proxy server and running AXIS2 web services on some
> > other machines.
> >
> > Where should configure the "web services server" when I start Synapse
> > server?  Seems like- I missing something obvious..    Sample
> > configurations(numbered ones) do not have explicit mention of the server.
> >
> >
> > Your help is appreciated..
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Vipul
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Ruwan Linton
> Technical Lead & Product Manager; WSO2 ESB; http://wso2.org/esb
> WSO2 <http://wso2.org/esb%0AWSO2> Inc.; http://wso2.org
> email: ruwan@...; cell: [phone]
> blog: http://ruwansblog.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
>

--
Ruwan Linton
Technical Lead & Product Manager; WSO2 ESB; http://wso2.org/esb
WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org
email: ruwan@...; cell: [phone]
blog: http://ruwansblog.blogspot.com