No EOL control in NB 6.1?

[swing_developer]

I appreciate the professional attention to  and concern about quality on the part of the NB team the extended discussion of this issue represents  let dissatisfied customers take note LOL...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 12:22 PM, software visualization <softwarevisualization@...> wrote:

Yes it could be my KB since that's another variable. It's a Fellows ergo.. pretty standard.. no user (me) tweaks.

I absolutely have done this three times now with the same result. The key on this KB is, as you say, pause/break, so that's probably Windows standard.

I'll file an issue, if I know what to tell them. If you tried it on Win XP64  then really, I am hard pressed to tell them exactly how my XP differs from anyone else's.

BTW, one thing is, I dont' have Vista I dont' think.. I have WinXP64.... it's a different creature... I *think*.. nothing on my machine says Vista. It says Windows XP Professional 64

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Petr Dvorak <Petr.Dvorak@...> wrote:

 Petr said: Well, I don't really understand how it can happen...

> and so starts the discussion of every bug....

You are absolutely right - I could have saved this... I am sorry for that...

However - I still  don't believe it but I have really done it - I went to my colleague's PC (colleague=Petr Chytil, you might have noticed him;)), I booted to Vista - and... I said WOW! While I was wondering about the beautiful and "never seen before" transparency of window decoration and gazing at the huge and A11Y friendly icons, I somehow managed to run command line (ufff... finally back home). Then I navigated to netbeans bin folder and I run nb.exe file...

The correct shortuct for Vista seems to be Ctrl+Pause/Break key... This made a thread dump for me...

If it does not work for you, could you please file a new issue for that (check also your keyboard - I had to reconnect a normal Labtec keyboard instead of the sexy Sun keyboard, which is usually so, so comfortable)?

http://www.netbeans.org/community/issues.html

Petr Dvorak

[joshis]

software visualization wrote:
> Yes it could be my KB since that's another variable. It's a Fellows
> ergo.. pretty standard.. no user (me) tweaks.

This "keyboard stuff" was just a joke - I had to switch the keyboard
before I was able to use the only Windows I have in my office. It was
not ment to offend you... I wouldn't say that you are the sort of person
who would just say "Oh, I found my keybord was not plugged in..." - I
didn't expect that this would be the problem...

> BTW, one thing is, I dont' have Vista I dont' think.. I have
> WinXP64.... it's a different creature... I *think*.. nothing on my
> machine says Vista. It says Windows XP Professional 64

I know... I will try to find an XP64 somewhere (am I right that 64bit
XP's were little "confused" OS - no drivers for it and so on? It will be
really hard stuff...). I just needed to test if it is possible to make a
thread dump under some Windows family OS's (and what keyboard shortcut
does it)... We have only one Windows PC (Vista) in my office... I have
Ubuntu and others use Mac...

So I am really sorry I cannot help you at this moment - I will try it, ok?


Petr D.

[swing_developer]

Well the way to play the plugin game is to ship with the most likely / popular things installed but give the user the power to EASILY ditch them through an GUI interface. Eclipse doesn't do that, and it hurts them.

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:03 PM, software visualization <softwarevisualization@...> wrote:

I appreciate the professional attention to  and concern about quality on the part of the NB team the extended discussion of this issue represents  let dissatisfied customers take note LOL...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 12:22 PM, software visualization <softwarevisualization@...> wrote:

Yes it could be my KB since that's another variable. It's a Fellows ergo.. pretty standard.. no user (me) tweaks.

I absolutely have done this three times now with the same result. The key on this KB is, as you say, pause/break, so that's probably Windows standard.

I'll file an issue, if I know what to tell them. If you tried it on Win XP64  then really, I am hard pressed to tell them exactly how my XP differs from anyone else's.

BTW, one thing is, I dont' have Vista I dont' think.. I have WinXP64.... it's a different creature... I *think*.. nothing on my machine says Vista. It says Windows XP Professional 64

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Petr Dvorak <Petr.Dvorak@...> wrote:

 Petr said: Well, I don't really understand how it can happen...

> and so starts the discussion of every bug....

You are absolutely right - I could have saved this... I am sorry for that...

However - I still  don't believe it but I have really done it - I went to my colleague's PC (colleague=Petr Chytil, you might have noticed him;)), I booted to Vista - and... I said WOW! While I was wondering about the beautiful and "never seen before" transparency of window decoration and gazing at the huge and A11Y friendly icons, I somehow managed to run command line (ufff... finally back home). Then I navigated to netbeans bin folder and I run nb.exe file...

The correct shortuct for Vista seems to be Ctrl+Pause/Break key... This made a thread dump for me...

If it does not work for you, could you please file a new issue for that (check also your keyboard - I had to reconnect a normal Labtec keyboard instead of the sexy Sun keyboard, which is usually so, so comfortable)?

http://www.netbeans.org/community/issues.html

Petr Dvorak

[swing_developer]

See email is a bad transmitter of subcontext and intonation. For instance, I've never felt you were snickering at me at all.. you've been nothing but 100% helpful and professional.. and I;ve never said anything in response to a perceived slight, since I dont' feel slighted at all.

I was actually thinking that, probably, sometimes, somehow, KBs can be an issue. It must have happened to some poor developer at some time.

I have not been able to solve the problem of sounding benign in email without also coming across as someone who's overdosing on their happy-meds, and I don't know anyone who has. The best thing to do is periodically send an attitude ack to the other side where you say, essentially "are we good? We're good on my side, man"...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Petr Dvorak <Petr.Dvorak@...> wrote:

software visualization wrote:

Yes it could be my KB since that's another variable. It's a Fellows ergo.. pretty standard.. no user (me) tweaks.

This "keyboard stuff" was just a joke - I had to switch the keyboard before I was able to use the only Windows I have in my office. It was not ment to offend you... I wouldn't say that you are the sort of person who would just say "Oh, I found my keybord was not plugged in..." - I didn't expect that this would be the problem...

BTW, one thing is, I dont' have Vista I dont' think.. I have WinXP64.... it's a different creature... I *think*.. nothing on my machine says Vista. It says Windows XP Professional 64

I know... I will try to find an XP64 somewhere (am I right that 64bit XP's were little "confused" OS - no drivers for it and so on? It will be really hard stuff...). I just needed to test if it is possible to make a thread dump under some Windows family OS's (and what keyboard shortcut does it)... We have only one Windows PC (Vista) in my office... I have Ubuntu and others use Mac...

So I am really sorry I cannot help you at this moment - I will try it, ok?


Petr D.

[Nan Null]

Mine actually is just a standard XP 32 bit.  However, I run it inside a virtual machine, so that could be a problem.  From my observation the Ctrl key works with everything else.
 I also tested this using Netbeans 6.0    versus later version.

[joshis]

software visualization wrote:

 >I have not been able to solve the problem of sounding benign in email
without also coming across as someone who's overdosing on their
happy-meds, and I don't know anyone who has.

Hehe... (I am little overdosed on coffee just now...)

 >The best thing to do is periodically send an attitude ack to the other
side where you say, essentially "are we good? We're good on my side, man"...

Absolutely... ;)

Can you please send me the information you can find in Help>About in the
NB IDE (just the first three lines)? I will paste it to the issue I am
currently submitting...

If Nan Null reads this, can you please do the same?

Thanks in advance,

Petr D.

[swing_developer]

I can do that only by reinstalling NB, since my NB screen is as I described earlier. Without objection, I'll uninstall NB (and destroy the dysfunctional state along with any chance to see what's causing it) . and reinstall and send that info to  you.

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Petr Dvorak <Petr.Dvorak@...> wrote:

software visualization wrote:

>I have not been able to solve the problem of sounding benign in email without also coming across as someone who's overdosing on their happy-meds, and I don't know anyone who has.

Hehe... (I am little overdosed on coffee just now...)

>The best thing to do is periodically send an attitude ack to the other side where you say, essentially "are we good? We're good on my side, man"...

Absolutely... ;)

Can you please send me the information you can find in Help>About in the NB IDE (just the first three lines)? I will paste it to the issue I am currently submitting...

If Nan Null reads this, can you please do the same?

Thanks in advance,

Petr D.

[Nan Null]

Here they are Petr D.

Product Version: Netbeans IDE 6.0.1 (Build 200801291616)
Java: 1.6.0_07; Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM 10.0-b23
System: Windows XP version 5.1 running on x86; Cp1252; en_US (nb)

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Petr Dvorak <Petr.Dvorak@...> wrote:

software visualization wrote:

>I have not been able to solve the problem of sounding benign in email without also coming across as someone who's overdosing on their happy-meds, and I don't know anyone who has.

Hehe... (I am little overdosed on coffee just now...)

>The best thing to do is periodically send an attitude ack to the other side where you say, essentially "are we good? We're good on my side, man"...

Absolutely... ;)

Can you please send me the information you can find in Help>About in the NB IDE (just the first three lines)? I will paste it to the issue I am currently submitting...

If Nan Null reads this, can you please do the same?

Thanks in advance,

Petr D.

[Thomas Wolf-4]

Kurt,
Do you use JXMapViewer for the map display?  If so, you may be my new best buddy/savior as I'm having a heck of a time trying to figure out why, after a zoom, my JComponents don't get the right screen coordinates anymore - initially the mapping between lat/long and screen coordinates works fine tough (but you may not be able to help anyway - it looks like you're using a custom "painter" rather than JComponent?)

:-)
tom

Kurt Olsen wrote:

Thanks Tim,

Our Co. is about to launch a new family of rugged (indestructible instant networking) wireless routers that use the Optimized Link State Routing Protocol to form self-healing mesh networks. The RapidView application (screenshots) is talking to a servlet, running on our hardware (courtesy of osgi) which in turn is obtaining the topology from the routing protocol. The application then graphs the interconnections the mesh nodes have formed (and no, we're not really hopping islands yet).

It also performs the admin functions for the nodes, but most work in the future will be in the graphing, and in allowing others to install software on the mesh nodes. Since our hardware are linux boxes running java and osgi we are setting up a system where other developers can develop client/server apps and deploy them in the field, where there is no, or limited access to the internet.

I decided not to base the software off of either of the eclipse or netbeans platforms. I spent a month considering it, and trying both of them but the overall learning curve wasn't worth the effort in my case, and very much doubt our customers would appreciate being forced to learn it either. Enter JSR 296 - Now that is an appframework that is just-right...Little bitty thing, provides everything I need in a framework for an app of this size, and when you add derby, hibernate, ejb3 and JSR295 (bean binding)  I had everything I needed.

It's a winning stack in my opinion.
Kurt




Tim Boudreau wrote:

Kurt Olsen-3 wrote:
 

Thanks Tim, I installed the two things mercurial needed but didn't check see if it's working yet.
I'm in the final stages of finishing my app (beta) and haven't had time to try again.

I put some screenshots of my nemesis online at:

http://kurt6string.homeip.net/images

Take Care,
Kurt

   

That's a sweet looking app!  I'd love to have a map view of the hops when
doing a traceroute (if that's what it really does - I'm assuming that from
the screen shot)!  Are you using native code to get the info about the
network adapters, or parsing output from ifconfig and traceroute or similar?

It also looks like something that would be a great candidate for building on
the NetBeans Platform ( http://platform.netbeans.org/ ) - you'd probably be
able to delete a bunch of plumbing (windowing, actions) code - but it might
take a bit of work to get exactly that same look, so I can't say if it's a
perfect fit.

-Tim


 

[joshis]

First: file an issue to the current state. Select component IDE for the
issue - I don't know better one for now. Create a ZIP file containing
your userdir ("C:/Documents and Settings/<user>/.netbeans" folder) and
attach this ZIP to the issue (it should have a few megabytes...).

I think you can uninstall IDE then - as the thread dump doesn't work for
you...

Send me the number of the issue and when you reinstall NB IDE, send me
the information from Help>About (or just send one mail with
everything...)...

You can send it directly to 'Petr.Dvorak@...' so that I can easily
find it. (This thread is - well - just long...)

Petr D.

software visualization wrote:

> I can do that only by reinstalling NB, since my NB screen is as I
> described earlier. Without objection, I'll uninstall NB (and destroy
> the dysfunctional state along with any chance to see what's causing
> it) . and reinstall and send that info to  you.
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Petr Dvorak <Petr.Dvorak@...
> <mailto:Petr.Dvorak@...>> wrote:
>
>     software visualization wrote:
>
>     >I have not been able to solve the problem of sounding benign in
>     email without also coming across as someone who's overdosing on
>     their happy-meds, and I don't know anyone who has.
>
>     Hehe... (I am little overdosed on coffee just now...)
>
>
>     >The best thing to do is periodically send an attitude ack to the
>     other side where you say, essentially "are we good? We're good on
>     my side, man"...
>
>     Absolutely... ;)
>
>     Can you please send me the information you can find in Help>About
>     in the NB IDE (just the first three lines)? I will paste it to the
>     issue I am currently submitting...
>
>     If Nan Null reads this, can you please do the same?
>
>     Thanks in advance,
>
>     Petr D.
>
>

[joshis]

Thank you very much, Nan... Well - maybe one more thing: you said you
use a VM. Can you tell me some details about this (is it VirtualBox?)?

Nan Null wrote:

>
> Here they are Petr D.
>
> Product Version: Netbeans IDE 6.0.1 (Build 200801291616)
> Java: 1.6.0_07; Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM 10.0-b23
> System: Windows XP version 5.1 running on x86; Cp1252; en_US (nb)
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Petr Dvorak <Petr.Dvorak@...
> <mailto:Petr.Dvorak@...>> wrote:
>
>     software visualization wrote:
>
>     >I have not been able to solve the problem of sounding benign in
>     email without also coming across as someone who's overdosing on
>     their happy-meds, and I don't know anyone who has.
>
>     Hehe... (I am little overdosed on coffee just now...)
>
>
>     >The best thing to do is periodically send an attitude ack to the
>     other side where you say, essentially "are we good? We're good on
>     my side, man"...
>
>     Absolutely... ;)
>
>     Can you please send me the information you can find in Help>About
>     in the NB IDE (just the first three lines)? I will paste it to the
>     issue I am currently submitting...
>
>     If Nan Null reads this, can you please do the same?
>
>     Thanks in advance,
>
>     Petr D.
>
>

[Nan Null]

:-) yes, you guessed it right.  In VirtualBox, I already change the Host Key to the left WinKey, so there should not be conflict there.

The left control key works with everything else.  I also tried the right control key.  However, it still is a VM, and that can make a difference.

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Petr Dvorak <Petr.Dvorak@...> wrote:

Thank you very much, Nan... Well - maybe one more thing: you said you use a VM. Can you tell me some details about this (is it VirtualBox?)?

Nan Null wrote:

Here they are Petr D.

Product Version: Netbeans IDE 6.0.1 (Build 200801291616)
Java: 1.6.0_07; Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM 10.0-b23
System: Windows XP version 5.1 running on x86; Cp1252; en_US (nb)

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Petr Dvorak <Petr.Dvorak@... <mailto:Petr.Dvorak@...>> wrote:

   software visualization wrote:

   >I have not been able to solve the problem of sounding benign in
   email without also coming across as someone who's overdosing on
   their happy-meds, and I don't know anyone who has.

   Hehe... (I am little overdosed on coffee just now...)


   >The best thing to do is periodically send an attitude ack to the
   other side where you say, essentially "are we good? We're good on
   my side, man"...

   Absolutely... ;)

   Can you please send me the information you can find in Help>About
   in the NB IDE (just the first three lines)? I will paste it to the
   issue I am currently submitting...

   If Nan Null reads this, can you please do the same?

   Thanks in advance,

   Petr D.

[joshis]

Nan Null wrote:
>
> :-) yes, you guessed it right.  In VirtualBox, I already change the
> Host Key to the left WinKey, so there should not be conflict there.
>
> The left control key works with everything else.  I also tried the
> right control key.  However, it still is a VM, and that can make a
> difference.

OK, that's good - I will submit an issue for this - it should be
possible to generate a thread dump (even in VirtualBox)...

Btw: Did you already check out OpenSolaris on VirtualBox? :) I run it
for testing purposes and it acutually seems quite OK... (I even made a
NB6.5M1 thread dump there... ctrl+backslash works as a charm:))

[Nan Null]

I haven't tried OpenSolaris on VirtualBox yet.  I'll tried it this weekend if I have time.  Right now, 2GB limit of VirtualBox screwed me up big time with all heavy stuffs running on it.

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Petr Dvorak <Petr.Dvorak@...> wrote:

Nan Null wrote:

:-) yes, you guessed it right.  In VirtualBox, I already change the Host Key to the left WinKey, so there should not be conflict there.

The left control key works with everything else.  I also tried the right control key.  However, it still is a VM, and that can make a difference.

OK, that's good - I will submit an issue for this - it should be possible to generate a thread dump (even in VirtualBox)...

Btw: Did you already check out OpenSolaris on VirtualBox? :) I run it for testing purposes and it acutually seems quite OK... (I even made a NB6.5M1 thread dump there... ctrl+backslash works as a charm:))

[Kurt Olsen-3]

No, I went with JUNG - http://jung.sourceforge.net/
It included a lot of examples including bg images and painting.
Kurt


Thomas Wolf wrote:

> Kurt,
> Do you use JXMapViewer for the map display?  If so, you may be my new
> best buddy/savior as I'm having a heck of a time trying to figure out
> why, after a zoom, my JComponents don't get the right screen
> coordinates anymore - initially the mapping between lat/long and
> screen coordinates works fine tough (but you may not be able to help
> anyway - it looks like you're using a custom "painter" rather than
> JComponent?)
>
> :-)
> tom
>
> Kurt Olsen wrote:
>> Thanks Tim,
>>
>> Our Co. is about to launch a new family of rugged (indestructible
>> instant networking) wireless routers that use the Optimized Link
>> State Routing Protocol to form self-healing mesh networks. The
>> RapidView application (screenshots) is talking to a servlet, running
>> on our hardware (courtesy of osgi) which in turn is obtaining the
>> topology from the routing protocol. The application then graphs the
>> interconnections the mesh nodes have formed (and no, we're not really
>> hopping islands yet).
>>
>> It also performs the admin functions for the nodes, but most work in
>> the future will be in the graphing, and in allowing others to install
>> software on the mesh nodes. Since our hardware are linux boxes
>> running java and osgi we are setting up a system where other
>> developers can develop client/server apps and deploy them in the
>> field, where there is no, or limited access to the internet.
>>
>> I decided not to base the software off of either of the eclipse or
>> netbeans platforms. I spent a month considering it, and trying both
>> of them but the overall learning curve wasn't worth the effort in my
>> case, and very much doubt our customers would appreciate being forced
>> to learn it either. Enter JSR 296 - Now that is an appframework that
>> is just-right...Little bitty thing, provides everything I need in a
>> framework for an app of this size, and when you add derby, hibernate,
>> ejb3 and JSR295 (bean binding)  I had everything I needed.
>>
>> It's a winning stack in my opinion.
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim Boudreau wrote:
>>> Kurt Olsen-3 wrote:
>>>  
>>>> Thanks Tim, I installed the two things mercurial needed but didn't
>>>> check see if it's working yet.
>>>> I'm in the final stages of finishing my app (beta) and haven't had
>>>> time to try again.
>>>>
>>>> I put some screenshots of my nemesis online at:
>>>>
>>>> http://kurt6string.homeip.net/images
>>>>
>>>> Take Care,
>>>> Kurt
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>
>>> That's a sweet looking app!  I'd love to have a map view of the hops
>>> when
>>> doing a traceroute (if that's what it really does - I'm assuming
>>> that from
>>> the screen shot)!  Are you using native code to get the info about the
>>> network adapters, or parsing output from ifconfig and traceroute or
>>> similar?
>>>
>>> It also looks like something that would be a great candidate for
>>> building on
>>> the NetBeans Platform ( http://platform.netbeans.org/ ) - you'd
>>> probably be
>>> able to delete a bunch of plumbing (windowing, actions) code - but
>>> it might
>>> take a bit of work to get exactly that same look, so I can't say if
>>> it's a
>>> perfect fit.
>>>
>>> -Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>

[Thomas Wolf-4]

So your nodes are not placed from lat/long info?  Our app (which is a security monitoring application) uses some 3rd-party database that maps IP addresses to lat/long (but only down to city level).  I thought when I saw your IP's over the various islands, that you were doing same.

tom

Kurt Olsen wrote:

No, I went with JUNG - http://jung.sourceforge.net/
It included a lot of examples including bg images and painting.
Kurt


Thomas Wolf wrote:

Kurt,
Do you use JXMapViewer for the map display?  If so, you may be my new best buddy/savior as I'm having a heck of a time trying to figure out why, after a zoom, my JComponents don't get the right screen coordinates anymore - initially the mapping between lat/long and screen coordinates works fine tough (but you may not be able to help anyway - it looks like you're using a custom "painter" rather than JComponent?)

:-)
tom

Kurt Olsen wrote:

Thanks Tim,

Our Co. is about to launch a new family of rugged (indestructible instant networking) wireless routers that use the Optimized Link State Routing Protocol to form self-healing mesh networks. The RapidView application (screenshots) is talking to a servlet, running on our hardware (courtesy of osgi) which in turn is obtaining the topology from the routing protocol. The application then graphs the interconnections the mesh nodes have formed (and no, we're not really hopping islands yet).

It also performs the admin functions for the nodes, but most work in the future will be in the graphing, and in allowing others to install software on the mesh nodes. Since our hardware are linux boxes running java and osgi we are setting up a system where other developers can develop client/server apps and deploy them in the field, where there is no, or limited access to the internet.

I decided not to base the software off of either of the eclipse or netbeans platforms. I spent a month considering it, and trying both of them but the overall learning curve wasn't worth the effort in my case, and very much doubt our customers would appreciate being forced to learn it either. Enter JSR 296 - Now that is an appframework that is just-right...Little bitty thing, provides everything I need in a framework for an app of this size, and when you add derby, hibernate, ejb3 and JSR295 (bean binding)  I had everything I needed.

It's a winning stack in my opinion.
Kurt




Tim Boudreau wrote:

Kurt Olsen-3 wrote:
 

Thanks Tim, I installed the two things mercurial needed but didn't check see if it's working yet.
I'm in the final stages of finishing my app (beta) and haven't had time to try again.

I put some screenshots of my nemesis online at:

http://kurt6string.homeip.net/images

Take Care,
Kurt

   

That's a sweet looking app!  I'd love to have a map view of the hops when
doing a traceroute (if that's what it really does - I'm assuming that from
the screen shot)!  Are you using native code to get the info about the
network adapters, or parsing output from ifconfig and traceroute or similar?

It also looks like something that would be a great candidate for building on
the NetBeans Platform ( http://platform.netbeans.org/ ) - you'd probably be
able to delete a bunch of plumbing (windowing, actions) code - but it might
take a bit of work to get exactly that same look, so I can't say if it's a
perfect fit.

-Tim


 

[Kurt Olsen-3]

No lats/longs....we're doing gps on round two, so I'll be tackling that
at that time.

 Wolf wrote:

> So your nodes are not placed from lat/long info?  Our app (which is a
> security monitoring application) uses some 3rd-party database that
> maps IP addresses to lat/long (but only down to city level).  I
> thought when I saw your IP's over the various islands, that you were
> doing same.
>
> tom
>
> Kurt Olsen wrote:
>> No, I went with JUNG - http://jung.sourceforge.net/
>> It included a lot of examples including bg images and painting.
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>> Thomas Wolf wrote:
>>> Kurt,
>>> Do you use JXMapViewer for the map display?  If so, you may be my
>>> new best buddy/savior as I'm having a heck of a time trying to
>>> figure out why, after a zoom, my JComponents don't get the right
>>> screen coordinates anymore - initially the mapping between lat/long
>>> and screen coordinates works fine tough (but you may not be able to
>>> help anyway - it looks like you're using a custom "painter" rather
>>> than JComponent?)
>>>
>>> :-)
>>> tom
>>>
>>> Kurt Olsen wrote:
>>>> Thanks Tim,
>>>>
>>>> Our Co. is about to launch a new family of rugged (indestructible
>>>> instant networking) wireless routers that use the Optimized Link
>>>> State Routing Protocol to form self-healing mesh networks. The
>>>> RapidView application (screenshots) is talking to a servlet,
>>>> running on our hardware (courtesy of osgi) which in turn is
>>>> obtaining the topology from the routing protocol. The application
>>>> then graphs the interconnections the mesh nodes have formed (and
>>>> no, we're not really hopping islands yet).
>>>>
>>>> It also performs the admin functions for the nodes, but most work
>>>> in the future will be in the graphing, and in allowing others to
>>>> install software on the mesh nodes. Since our hardware are linux
>>>> boxes running java and osgi we are setting up a system where other
>>>> developers can develop client/server apps and deploy them in the
>>>> field, where there is no, or limited access to the internet.
>>>>
>>>> I decided not to base the software off of either of the eclipse or
>>>> netbeans platforms. I spent a month considering it, and trying both
>>>> of them but the overall learning curve wasn't worth the effort in
>>>> my case, and very much doubt our customers would appreciate being
>>>> forced to learn it either. Enter JSR 296 - Now that is an
>>>> appframework that is just-right...Little bitty thing, provides
>>>> everything I need in a framework for an app of this size, and when
>>>> you add derby, hibernate, ejb3 and JSR295 (bean binding)  I had
>>>> everything I needed.
>>>>
>>>> It's a winning stack in my opinion.
>>>> Kurt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tim Boudreau wrote:
>>>>> Kurt Olsen-3 wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>> Thanks Tim, I installed the two things mercurial needed but
>>>>>> didn't check see if it's working yet.
>>>>>> I'm in the final stages of finishing my app (beta) and haven't
>>>>>> had time to try again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I put some screenshots of my nemesis online at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://kurt6string.homeip.net/images
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take Care,
>>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a sweet looking app!  I'd love to have a map view of the
>>>>> hops when
>>>>> doing a traceroute (if that's what it really does - I'm assuming
>>>>> that from
>>>>> the screen shot)!  Are you using native code to get the info about
>>>>> the
>>>>> network adapters, or parsing output from ifconfig and traceroute
>>>>> or similar?
>>>>>
>>>>> It also looks like something that would be a great candidate for
>>>>> building on
>>>>> the NetBeans Platform ( http://platform.netbeans.org/ ) - you'd
>>>>> probably be
>>>>> able to delete a bunch of plumbing (windowing, actions) code - but
>>>>> it might
>>>>> take a bit of work to get exactly that same look, so I can't say
>>>>> if it's a
>>>>> perfect fit.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>
>>

[joshis]

See:

http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=140823

Please post your comments and more details to this issue.

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[Solerman Kaplon]

Petr Dvorak escreveu:
> See:
>
> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=140823
>
> Please post your comments and more details to this issue.
>
> (Very imaginative message subject, is it?)
>


Using virtualbox.... and is virtualbox correctly sending the key
combination to the guest SO?

Solerman

[joshis]

Might be the point... I have no idea (I have also no IDEA...) about how WindowsXP runs on VirtualBox... (OpenSolaris worked fine.) I have better to check it out...

Petr D.

Solerman Kaplon wrote:

Petr Dvorak escreveu:
> See:
>
> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=140823
>
> Please post your comments and more details to this issue.
>
> (Very imaginative message subject, is it?)
>


Using virtualbox.... and is virtualbox correctly sending the key
combination to the guest SO?

Solerman