No kbd and no mouse on iBook G4 with Xorg?

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No kbd and no mouse on iBook G4 with Xorg?

by Marcel Moolenaar-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Did someone manage to get X working on an iBook G4, running
FreeBSD -current (rev r190283) and with Xorg 1.5.3?

The keyboard (akbd) and mouse (ums0/ums1/sysmouse) don't seem
to work for me.

I have kernel config, dmesg, xorg.conf, etc here:
        http://ns1.xcllnt.net/~marcel/machines/ibook/

Thanks,

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Re: No kbd and no mouse on iBook G4 with Xorg?

by Nathan Whitehorn-7 :: Rate this Message:

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On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:

> Did someone manage to get X working on an iBook G4, running
> FreeBSD -current (rev r190283) and with Xorg 1.5.3?
>
> The keyboard (akbd) and mouse (ums0/ums1/sysmouse) don't seem
> to work for me.
>
> I have kernel config, dmesg, xorg.conf, etc here:
> http://ns1.xcllnt.net/~marcel/machines/ibook/
>

The keyboard should work fine -- maybe you've been bitten by the stupid
mouse blocking thing in Xorg 7.4? I put my working xorg.conf for almost
the same machine at http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/xorg.ibook.conf

The mouse is another issue. Apple's two-finger scrolling trackpads claim to be
standard USB mice, but are not. Instead, they just transfer the pressure
everywhere on their sensor grids continuously, and require a new driver.
This is pbms(4) on NetBSD.
-Nathan
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Re: No kbd and no mouse on iBook G4 with Xorg?

by Marcel Moolenaar-4 :: Rate this Message:

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On Mar 22, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
>
>> Did someone manage to get X working on an iBook G4, running
>> FreeBSD -current (rev r190283) and with Xorg 1.5.3?
>>
>> The keyboard (akbd) and mouse (ums0/ums1/sysmouse) don't seem
>> to work for me.
>>
>> I have kernel config, dmesg, xorg.conf, etc here:
>> http://ns1.xcllnt.net/~marcel/machines/ibook/
>>
>
> The keyboard should work fine -- maybe you've been bitten by the  
> stupid mouse blocking thing in Xorg 7.4? I put my working xorg.conf  
> for almost
> the same machine at http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/xorg.ibook.conf

The problem was a missing:
        Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"

Without it both kbd and mouse were disabled.

> The mouse is another issue. Apple's two-finger scrolling trackpads  
> claim to be
> standard USB mice, but are not. Instead, they just transfer the  
> pressure
> everywhere on their sensor grids continuously, and require a new  
> driver. This is pbms(4) on NetBSD.

Hmmm... Ah well... An external mouse it is for now...

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Re: No kbd and no mouse on iBook G4 with Xorg?

by Andreas Tobler-5 :: Rate this Message:

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Nathan Whitehorn wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
>
>> Did someone manage to get X working on an iBook G4, running
>> FreeBSD -current (rev r190283) and with Xorg 1.5.3?
>>
>> The keyboard (akbd) and mouse (ums0/ums1/sysmouse) don't seem
>> to work for me.
>>
>> I have kernel config, dmesg, xorg.conf, etc here:
>>     http://ns1.xcllnt.net/~marcel/machines/ibook/
>>
>
> The keyboard should work fine -- maybe you've been bitten by the stupid
> mouse blocking thing in Xorg 7.4? I put my working xorg.conf for almost
> the same machine at http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/xorg.ibook.conf
>
> The mouse is another issue. Apple's two-finger scrolling trackpads claim
> to be
> standard USB mice, but are not. Instead, they just transfer the pressure
> everywhere on their sensor grids continuously, and require a new driver.
> This is pbms(4) on NetBSD.

Hm, so the kdb follows adb while the trackpad is usb? Did I got that right?

Here on my PowerBook G4 I have X11 with an external USB mouse working.

Now, if I got the above right, we would need the pbms(4) to have
trackpad clicking support?

Just for understanding.

Andreas
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Re: No kbd and no mouse on iBook G4 with Xorg?

by Nathan Whitehorn-7 :: Rate this Message:

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Andreas Tobler wrote:

> Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
>>
>>> Did someone manage to get X working on an iBook G4, running
>>> FreeBSD -current (rev r190283) and with Xorg 1.5.3?
>>>
>>> The keyboard (akbd) and mouse (ums0/ums1/sysmouse) don't seem
>>> to work for me.
>>>
>>> I have kernel config, dmesg, xorg.conf, etc here:
>>>     http://ns1.xcllnt.net/~marcel/machines/ibook/
>>>
>>
>> The keyboard should work fine -- maybe you've been bitten by the
>> stupid mouse blocking thing in Xorg 7.4? I put my working xorg.conf
>> for almost
>> the same machine at
>> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/xorg.ibook.conf
>>
>> The mouse is another issue. Apple's two-finger scrolling trackpads
>> claim to be
>> standard USB mice, but are not. Instead, they just transfer the pressure
>> everywhere on their sensor grids continuously, and require a new
>> driver. This is pbms(4) on NetBSD.
>
> Hm, so the kdb follows adb while the trackpad is usb? Did I got that
> right?
>
> Here on my PowerBook G4 I have X11 with an external USB mouse working.
>
> Now, if I got the above right, we would need the pbms(4) to have
> trackpad clicking support?
>
> Just for understanding.
Yes, that is correct. Basically, the trackpad is to regular USB mice as
a winmodem is to a regular modem: you just get a grid of pad pressures,
and have to go around taking weighted averages to get the mouse
position, figure out the position delta from last time, detect if there
are two fingers on the pad to implement scrolling, etc. This same device
also has an ADB attachment; the later model ADB trackpads can be put
into a mode where they do the same thing by setting their handler code
appropriately.
-Nathan
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