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Non-daw, non-sequencer
by rosea
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Hi,
I'm impressed by my recent discovery: non-daw and especially non-sequencer: http://non.tuxfamily.org/ I love the design of the sequencer, it's very intuitive, userfriendly and fast! Respect for that! But I couldn't contact the author. So I was wondering, maybe he is on this (lad) list? I really like to know what his plans are with the apps and if he needs support in some kind of way. Does he continue to work on it? (If not that would be a real pity, cause this is not just another sequencer... And then we might need some talented devs to fork it...) Ok, I hope I will get some sign of life from the author soon... Kind regards, \rooz _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: Non-daw, non-sequencer
by Bengt Gördén-3
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On torsdag 17 september 2009 12:28:57 Grammostola Rosea wrote:
> Hi, > > > I'm impressed by my recent discovery: non-daw and especially non-sequencer: > > http://non.tuxfamily.org/ > > I love the design of the sequencer, it's very intuitive, userfriendly > and fast! Respect for that! > > But I couldn't contact the author. So I was wondering, maybe he is on > this (lad) list? At least he was last summer. There were some discussions about non-daw and non-seq at that time. http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/2008-June/021235.html http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/2008-June/021236.html > I really like to know what his plans are with the apps and if he needs > support in some kind of way. Does he continue to work on it? (If not > that would be a real pity, cause this is not just another sequencer... > And then we might need some talented devs to fork it...) > > Ok, I hope I will get some sign of life from the author soon... > > > Kind regards, > > \rooz > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-dev mailing list > Linux-audio-dev@... > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev > /bengan _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: Non-daw, non-sequencer
by michael noble-2
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I had contact with the author in May through the mail-list for these apps. Beyond that, I couldn't say.
-Michael On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Grammostola Rosea <rosea.grammostola@...> wrote: Hi, _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: Non-daw, non-sequencer
by rosea
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michael noble wrote:
> I had contact with the author in May through the mail-list for these > apps. Beyond that, I couldn't say. > > -Michael > Thanks for the replies. No sign of life yet... I tried to subscribe to the mailinglists but got no reply or confirmation... Again, these apps could be useful for linux audio... Kind regards, \r > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Grammostola Rosea > <rosea.grammostola@... <mailto:rosea.grammostola@...>> wrote: > > Hi, > > > I'm impressed by my recent discovery: non-daw and especially > non-sequencer: > > http://non.tuxfamily.org/ > > I love the design of the sequencer, it's very intuitive, userfriendly > and fast! Respect for that! > > But I couldn't contact the author. So I was wondering, maybe he is on > this (lad) list? > I really like to know what his plans are with the apps and if he needs > support in some kind of way. Does he continue to work on it? (If not > that would be a real pity, cause this is not just another sequencer... > And then we might need some talented devs to fork it...) > > Ok, I hope I will get some sign of life from the author soon... > > > Kind regards, > > \rooz > > _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: Non-daw, non-sequencer (fork?)
by rosea
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michael noble wrote:
> I had contact with the author in May through the mail-list for these > apps. Beyond that, I couldn't say. I've mailed him, the mailinglist... no sign of life. :( I've joined the #non channel, no sign of life from the author :( Maybe it's time to consider a fork (not by myself, I'm not a programmer)... \r > > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Grammostola Rosea > <rosea.grammostola@... <mailto:rosea.grammostola@...>> wrote: > > Hi, > > > I'm impressed by my recent discovery: non-daw and especially > non-sequencer: > > http://non.tuxfamily.org/ > > I love the design of the sequencer, it's very intuitive, userfriendly > and fast! Respect for that! > > But I couldn't contact the author. So I was wondering, maybe he is on > this (lad) list? > I really like to know what his plans are with the apps and if he needs > support in some kind of way. Does he continue to work on it? (If not > that would be a real pity, cause this is not just another sequencer... > And then we might need some talented devs to fork it...) > > Ok, I hope I will get some sign of life from the author soon... > > > Kind regards, > > \rooz > > _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: Non-daw, non-sequencer (fork?)
by james morris-8
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On 30/9/2009, "rosea grammostola" <rosea.grammostola@...> wrote: >Danni Coy wrote: >> I have taken a look at non daw - and I have to say that I am sold on >> the concept (particularly using jack/lash/midi infrastructure wherever >> possible) >> there are a few extra features I would like to see added. But am >> incredibly busy at the moment. >Danni, > >That would be cool! I posted this cause it will be a lost for Linux >Audio if this dies imho. > >Btw I think I found one disadvantage in the workflow of non-sequencer. >You can choose a scale to work in, but the disadvantage afaik is that >you can't choose notes outsides that scale. Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm >right it seems to narrow the possibilities quite a bit. I actually found it good that you can't choose notes outside the scale - and did you know if you change scales then the notes from the old scale that are outside of the new, are not played - but *are* still there? I've not played enough with it yet to really take advantage of it, but as the notes are still there - just not visible or audible, I think this opens up possibilities rather than narrowing them? james. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: Non-daw, non-sequencer (fork?)
by Bugzilla from danni.coy@gmail.com
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I am kind of work till after midnight every day in my day job busy at the moment. I would like to get back into open source development when I have a bit of breathing room.
I like the modular approach taken by non daw... I would like to see the pro audio infrastructure in linux get to the point where it can support an application like this really well. I have in mind perhaps a few small improvements and I would like to see it be able to use the new LADI infrastructure... I took a quick peak at the sequencer (sequencers are not normally part of my workflow - or rather I haven't found one that really suits me yet). With regards to not being able to put in out of scale notes it seems you can get around that by choosing a chromatic scale type. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: Non-daw, non-sequencer (fork?)
by rosea
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Danni Coy wrote:
> I am kind of work till after midnight every day in my day job busy at > the moment. I would like to get back into open source development when > I have a bit of breathing room. > > I like the modular approach taken by non daw... I would like to see > the pro audio infrastructure in linux get to the point where it can > support an application like this really well. I have in mind perhaps a > few small improvements and I would like to see it be able to use the > new LADI infrastructure... > > I took a quick peak at the sequencer (sequencers are not normally part > of my workflow - or rather I haven't found one that really suits me yet). > > With regards to not being able to put in out of scale notes it seems > you can get around that by choosing a chromatic scale type. \r _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: Non-daw, non-sequencer (fork?)
by rosea
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rosea grammostola wrote:
> Danni Coy wrote: >> I am kind of work till after midnight every day in my day job busy at >> the moment. I would like to get back into open source development >> when I have a bit of breathing room. >> >> I like the modular approach taken by non daw... I would like to see >> the pro audio infrastructure in linux get to the point where it can >> support an application like this really well. I have in mind perhaps >> a few small improvements and I would like to see it be able to use >> the new LADI infrastructure... >> >> I took a quick peak at the sequencer (sequencers are not normally >> part of my workflow - or rather I haven't found one that really suits >> me yet). >> >> With regards to not being able to put in out of scale notes it seems >> you can get around that by choosing a chromatic scale type. > Ah I was thinking about such a solution, but it's already there, cool. > > > \r > outside the scale visible/invisible. Non-daw doesn't work here with recent jack1 and jack2 \r _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: Non-daw, non-sequencer (fork?)
by rosea
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rosea grammostola wrote:
> rosea grammostola wrote: >> Danni Coy wrote: >>> I am kind of work till after midnight every day in my day job busy >>> at the moment. I would like to get back into open source development >>> when I have a bit of breathing room. >>> >>> I like the modular approach taken by non daw... I would like to see >>> the pro audio infrastructure in linux get to the point where it can >>> support an application like this really well. I have in mind perhaps >>> a few small improvements and I would like to see it be able to use >>> the new LADI infrastructure... >>> >>> I took a quick peak at the sequencer (sequencers are not normally >>> part of my workflow - or rather I haven't found one that really >>> suits me yet). >>> >>> With regards to not being able to put in out of scale notes it >>> seems you can get around that by choosing a chromatic scale type. >> Ah I was thinking about such a solution, but it's already there, cool. >> >> >> \r >> > and in View use can choose for 'compacted', which makes the notes > outside the scale visible/invisible. > > > Non-daw doesn't work here with recent jack1 and jack2 Non-Daw: Paul Davis says that the Ardour backend is independent of it's gui. With other words, you can make Ardour as simple as you want. I don't know how non-daw is build, but I can imagine the fast and simple interface on a Ardour backend... Non-Sequencer: Recording midi seems to be ok. I'm not sure if or how quantize works. About the 'fork'... don't know if we would need another name or other project... Maybe 'we' can just work on the existing project, cause the starter of this project was pretty open for contributions afaik. A problem might be that we can't get contact with the author... \r _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: Non-daw, non-sequencer
by malnourite
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Greetings, living people. I am not dead. I was only sleeping. I'm pleased to learn that people are (finally?) becoming as excited about my non-projects as I have been from their inception. I realize that I haven't been engaged in active communication for quite some time. Believe me, I wish I had spent far more time this past year working on all things Non and Linux Audio. Unfortunately, however, I have been buried under a pile of legal, financial, and femaloidal woes. I can no longer afford to work from home and the long commute is sufficient to drain me of the time and energy I had been in the habit of pouring into my software. Thank you to those who have recently discovered Non and made their appreciation clear via cash donation. For whatever reason people claim to have been unable to contact me; it is true that I have not been on IRC in quite some time, but I do check my email occasionally (although I must admit I have not been following this mailing list). To those who would talk of forking my projects: please feel free to contribute patches and discuss new features on the non-* mailing lists. A leadership role of these projects is a much lighter burden than what I had planned to do all by myself, and I think I can afford the time to apply a patch or two. I still have a lot planned for Non-*, but I can't say when I'll have enough contiguous free time to accomplish any significant development. I continue to use Non regularly, but I'm ashamed to admit that I haven't attempted to upgrade JACK in quite some time. Any compatibility patches are welcome. The setup I have currently is working well. I get to spend a few hours every weekend recording songs in Non-DAW and in the course of those activities I have found very little in need of alteration (aside from the described by my now ancient TODO list). I wish I could see a light at the end of this tunnel. I have no intentions to let my projects die--for I still need them as much today as I did when I wrote the first line of code. I simply don't have enough time at the end of each day to devote to such complex engineering tasks and right now I'm looking at the possibility of having to take on MORE work rather than less. Your Favorite Non-Author, Jonathan Moore Liles. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: Non-daw, non-sequencer
by Bugzilla from danni.coy@gmail.com
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Both Non projects seem to be working for me with the latest jack (1.9.3)...
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Jonathan Moore Liles <malnourite@...> wrote:
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Re: Non-daw, non-sequencer
by julian Schmidt-2
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hello together!
i just thought i'd try the non-daw. but when trying to compile i get loads of "Fl_Text_Edit_Window.C:(.text+0x22c): undefined reference to `Fl_Group::end()'" errors and the like... FLTK is installed. ./configure delivers Checking for FLTK... ok (1.1.10) Checking for FLUID... ok Checking for JACK... ok (0.116.1) Checking for sndfile... ok (1.0.20) cheers, julian Am Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 08:50:04 schrieb Danni Coy: > Both Non projects seem to be working for me with the latest jack (1.9.3)... > > _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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Re: Non-daw, non-sequencer
by rosea
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Jonathan Moore Liles wrote:
> Greetings, living people. I am not dead. I was only sleeping. I'm > pleased to learn that people are (finally?) becoming as excited about > my non-projects as I have been from their inception. I realize that I > haven't been engaged in active communication for quite some > time. Believe me, I wish I had spent far more time this past year > working on all things Non and Linux Audio. Unfortunately, however, I > have been buried under a pile of legal, financial, and femaloidal > woes. I can no longer afford to work from home and the long commute is > sufficient to drain me of the time and energy I had been in the habit > of pouring into my software. Thank you to those who have recently > discovered Non and made their appreciation clear via cash > donation. For whatever reason people claim to have been unable to > contact me; it is true that I have not been on IRC in quite some time, > but I do check my email occasionally (although I must admit I have not > been following this mailing list). To those who would talk of forking > my projects: please feel free to contribute patches and discuss new > features on the non-* mailing lists. A leadership role of these > projects is a much lighter burden than what I had planned to do all by > myself, and I think I can afford the time to apply a patch or two. I > still have a lot planned for Non-*, but I can't say when I'll have > enough contiguous free time to accomplish any significant > development. I continue to use Non regularly, but I'm ashamed to admit > that I haven't attempted to upgrade JACK in quite some time. Any > compatibility patches are welcome. The setup I have currently is > working well. I get to spend a few hours every weekend recording songs > in Non-DAW and in the course of those activities I have found very > little in need of alteration (aside from the described by my now > ancient TODO list). > > I wish I could see a light at the end of this tunnel. I have no > intentions to let my projects die--for I still need them as much today > as I did when I wrote the first line of code. I simply don't have > enough time at the end of each day to devote to such complex > engineering tasks and right now I'm looking at the possibility of > having to take on MORE work rather than less. > > Your Favorite Non-Author, > > Jonathan Moore Liles. apps are really good or at least very promising! You must have talent... I did some things with non-sequencer, but couldn't connect non-DAW to JACK... Anyway, good luck with your project and your life ;) \r _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev |
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