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Not getting email from our firewall

by carnold5 :: Rate this Message:

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Hello all! I would like to know how to accept mail from our firewall? We
use r1201 and i know it is not accepting the mail from our firewall
because i can change the send logs smtp field in our firewall to a
different smtp server and then we get the email from the firewall. I
gues it might be that to send smtp via hula, you have to authenticate
and this device does not authenticate but i might be wrong. How to
overcome this so we get email from our firewall?

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Re: Not getting email from our firewall

by Patrick Felt :: Rate this Message:

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are you trying to have hula relay the mail?  if the mail is destined for
a user on the box itself it should come through great.

pat

carnold5@... wrote:

> Hello all! I would like to know how to accept mail from our firewall? We
> use r1201 and i know it is not accepting the mail from our firewall
> because i can change the send logs smtp field in our firewall to a
> different smtp server and then we get the email from the firewall. I
> gues it might be that to send smtp via hula, you have to authenticate
> and this device does not authenticate but i might be wrong. How to
> overcome this so we get email from our firewall?
>  
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> Hula-general@...
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by carnold5 :: Rate this Message:

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>are you trying to have hula relay the mail?
Not that i know of as it just is to send mail to a user on the box but
that user does not get the email. When users send mail using Hula, they
have to supply their passowrd. So when the firewall tries to send the
mail, it does not supply a password. Could this be the problem?

>are you trying to have hula relay the mail? if the mail is destined for
>a user on the box itself it should come through great.
>
>pat

carnold5@... wrote:
> Hello all! I would like to know how to accept mail from our firewall? We
> use r1201 and i know it is not accepting the mail from our firewall
> because i can change the send logs smtp field in our firewall to a
> different smtp server and then we get the email from the firewall. I
> gues it might be that to send smtp via hula, you have to authenticate
> and this device does not authenticate but i might be wrong. How to
> overcome this so we get email from our firewall?
>

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Re: Not getting email from our firewall

by Patrick Felt :: Rate this Message:

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smtp authentication should only be required on relay.  the reason it is
that way is so that i can drop mail off on your server as i don't have a
username and password on your box.

you know who the messsage comes from right?  try to send the mail via a
telnet session and see what happens. text between < > characters are
user supplied options (without the <> chars).

telnet <hulaserveripaddr> 25
helo <fromserveripaddr>
mail from: <fromaddress>
rcpt to: <destinationaddr>
data
test
test
test
.

that conversation should drop a message off in destinationaddr's
mailbox.  there is no date so it will show up messed up in the box.  
hopefully we'll see the error.  as the logging in hula is a little
messed up if this doesn't work we may need to do a packet sniff or
something to see what is happening.

if you want interactive help, most of the active people hang out in
#bongo on irc.oftc.net .  most everyone in there is either US or UK but
there are often times people on at odd hours.

pat

carnold5@... wrote:

>> are you trying to have hula relay the mail?
>>    
> Not that i know of as it just is to send mail to a user on the box but
> that user does not get the email. When users send mail using Hula, they
> have to supply their passowrd. So when the firewall tries to send the
> mail, it does not supply a password. Could this be the problem?
>
>  
>> are you trying to have hula relay the mail? if the mail is destined for
>> a user on the box itself it should come through great.
>>
>> pat
>>    
>
> carnold5@... wrote:
>  
>> Hello all! I would like to know how to accept mail from our firewall? We
>> use r1201 and i know it is not accepting the mail from our firewall
>> because i can change the send logs smtp field in our firewall to a
>> different smtp server and then we get the email from the firewall. I
>> gues it might be that to send smtp via hula, you have to authenticate
>> and this device does not authenticate but i might be wrong. How to
>> overcome this so we get email from our firewall?
>>
>>    
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hula-general mailing list
>> Hula-general@...
>> http://forge.novell.com/mailman/listinfo/hula-general

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Re: Not getting email from our firewall

by Alex Hudson :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 09:05 -0500, carnold5@... wrote:
> >are you trying to have hula relay the mail?
> Not that i know of as it just is to send mail to a user on the box but
> that user does not get the email. When users send mail using Hula, they
> have to supply their passowrd. So when the firewall tries to send the
> mail, it does not supply a password. Could this be the problem?

You shouldn't need to supply a password to simply deliver the mail.

The best thing probably would be to try to get a trace of the SMTP
conversation that happens between your firewall and mail server - that
ought to reveal exactly what's happening. My personal bet would be the
firewall not forwarding the mail correctly, but it could be a number of
things.

You might want to try something like dsniff
<http://www.monkey.org/~dugsong/dsniff/faq.html> which comes with a
program called mailsnarf - this will allow you to dump out the SMTP
transaction without having to recompile your Hula.

Cheers,

Alex.

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by carnold5 :: Rate this Message:

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>you know who the messsage comes from right?
I do, it comes from the hostanme of the firewall (host.domain.com)

>telnet <hulaserveripaddr> 25
>helo <fromserveripaddr>
>mail from: <fromaddress>
>rcpt to: <destinationaddr>
>data
>test
>test
>test
I did this and here is what i got:
helo <ip of hula server>
mail from: firewallname.domain.com
553 Your computer does not have a hostname, you must AUTHenticate

I tried other mail from: addresses and got the same error. So, it does
look like it has to authenticate first or do i have to enter the
firewall hostname somewhere in Hula?

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Re: Not getting email from our firewall

by Patrick Felt :: Rate this Message:

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not sure but it looks like the connmgr has the reverse dns turned on and
that the ptr isn't set up right for that host.  if this is the case you
can either set the ptr up in dns, add an entry for that server to
/etc/hosts, or turn off the reverse dns module for the connection
manager agent

pat

carnold5@... wrote:

>> you know who the messsage comes from right?
>>    
> I do, it comes from the hostanme of the firewall (host.domain.com)
>
>  
>> telnet <hulaserveripaddr> 25
>> helo <fromserveripaddr>
>> mail from: <fromaddress>
>> rcpt to: <destinationaddr>
>> data
>> test
>> test
>> test
>>    
> I did this and here is what i got:
> helo <ip of hula server>
> mail from: firewallname.domain.com
> 553 Your computer does not have a hostname, you must AUTHenticate
>
> I tried other mail from: addresses and got the same error. So, it does
> look like it has to authenticate first or do i have to enter the
> firewall hostname somewhere in Hula?
>  
> _______________________________________________
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> Hula-general@...
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