Nut/OS Developers and other statistics

[Ethernut]

Hi all,

Currently 22 developers do have write access to the source code. This
list need to be cleaned up, which I'd like to do now. AFAIK, the
following contributors are not subscribers to this list, which is an
indication, that they are no longer actively developing Nut/OS:

Matthias Dyer
Philipp Blum
Urs Zurbuchen
Michal Olejniczak
Erik Lins
Alessandro Zummo
Oliver Schulz
David Armstrong

If anyone, who is on this list, is still interested in contributing,
please let me know. Otherwise I'll remove these entries.

If anyone, who currently has write access, is no longer interested,
please let me know as well.

More statistics:

No, we do not have any reliable and long term user or download figures.

On ethernut.de we typically have more than 600 downloads per month of
version 4.8.3. I cannot find the SourceForge statistics anymore, but I
assume that they are significantly lower.

As far as we can tell, there are at least 10,000 nodes running Nut/OS
world wide, probably much more. Btw. due to the ICMP bug, you can easily
recognize them using ping. ;-)

We currently have 594 subscribers on this list. Some are duplicate
entries of the same person.

ethernut.de has about 13,000 unique visitors/month. Many of them are
robots (Nearly 100% of our email are spam). 48.3% (36,000 hits) used
Firefox, MSIE is at 34.6% and Safari at 6.7%. Windows 82.4%, Linux 10.1%
and Mac 4.3% (figures of September).

28.5% of all hits in September came via search engines and the top key
phrases were ethernut and nutos.

Harald
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[Daniel-378]

Harald Kipp schrieb:

> Hi all,
>
> Currently 22 developers do have write access to the source code. This
> list need to be cleaned up, which I'd like to do now. AFAIK, the
> following contributors are not subscribers to this list, which is an
> indication, that they are no longer actively developing Nut/OS:
>
> Matthias Dyer
> Philipp Blum
> Urs Zurbuchen
> Michal Olejniczak
> Erik Lins
> Alessandro Zummo
> Oliver Schulz
> David Armstrong
>
> If anyone, who is on this list, is still interested in contributing,
> please let me know. Otherwise I'll remove these entries.
>
> If anyone, who currently has write access, is no longer interested,
> please let me know as well.
>
> More statistics:
>
> No, we do not have any reliable and long term user or download figures.
>
> On ethernut.de we typically have more than 600 downloads per month of
> version 4.8.3. I cannot find the SourceForge statistics anymore, but I
> assume that they are significantly lower.
>
> As far as we can tell, there are at least 10,000 nodes running Nut/OS
> world wide, probably much more. Btw. due to the ICMP bug, you can easily
> recognize them using ping. ;-)
>
> We currently have 594 subscribers on this list. Some are duplicate
> entries of the same person.
>
> ethernut.de has about 13,000 unique visitors/month. Many of them are
> robots (Nearly 100% of our email are spam). 48.3% (36,000 hits) used
> Firefox, MSIE is at 34.6% and Safari at 6.7%. Windows 82.4%, Linux 10.1%
> and Mac 4.3% (figures of September).
>
> 28.5% of all hits in September came via search engines and the top key
> phrases were ethernut and nutos.
>
> Harald
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>  

Thx for the statistics.

But as a new ethernut user I have a question: Is the project (users /
developers) gowing or shrinking?

Best regards,
Daniel
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[Ethernut]

Daniel wrote:

> Thx for the statistics.
>
> But as a new ethernut user I have a question: Is the project (users /
> developers) gowing or shrinking?

Nice question, but difficult to sort out an answer in detail.
Increasing. ;-)

From memory we had about 400 subscribers in this list until 2004. When
support for ARM started, this number constantly increased to 600. I
think it stays there for the last 2 years.

All the time we experienced "waves". The first significant increase was
in 2003, caused by

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/03/130206&tid=126

Although about Contiki, it made Ethernut and Nut/OS quite popular.

After elektor published its articles about the project, more people
became interested in the ARM port.

Beside that, I can confirm, that there is a strong relation between
development activities and popularity. Due to Sourceforge statistics
(hurray, I found them again), we currently experience an increasing
number of write transactions in the SVN repository in this year. Ignore
the large peek in the beginning, that was due to restructuring the
repository. Also note, that before 02.2009 we used CVS. Thus, I expect
another significant increase of our user base in the next year. This
will be driven too by Thiago's support of the AVR32 platform.

An all time statistics of Sourceforge downloads is available at
http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=34079&ugn=ethernut&mode=alltime&type=prdownload
But that mainly depends on publishing upgrades on this or related sites.
I think that most people discover ethernut.de directly via Google. Due
to its long term existence, significant links from other sites and
constant updating (yeah...well...almost), its ranking on many specific
keywords is excellent.

My company's turnover, since 2001 increasingly based on selling
Ethernuts, made several jumps in the past, sometimes 50% or even 100%
increase per year. 2007 and 2008 business remains at the same level and
we are currently experiencing a drop. Though, today Nut/OS is less bound
to our products and egnite doesn't offer any SAM7X board, for example,
which is a great target for Nut/OS. Good for Nut/OS, less good for egnite.

Nowadays an increasing number of links had been observed from Wikipedia,
although the poor entries found in a few languages shouldn't make us
really proud. Due to my relations with egnite.de, I definitely won't do
any initial work on Wikipedia. If any neutral person thinks, that Nut/OS
is as relevant as other entries already there and starts working on this
in English or German, I may jump in (hint! hint!) ;-)

Harald



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[Daniel-378]

> Nowadays an increasing number of links had been observed from Wikipedia,
> although the poor entries found in a few languages shouldn't make us
> really proud. Due to my relations with egnite.de, I definitely won't do
> any initial work on Wikipedia. If any neutral person thinks, that Nut/OS
> is as relevant as other entries already there and starts working on this
> in English or German, I may jump in (hint! hint!) ;-)
>
> Harald
>
>  

Fixed!
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernut

It's just an initial entry with many copy-pastes from ethernut.de.
Everybody is welcome to add or correct the article.
Harald, am I allowed to use the images from ethernut.de (e.g. the
reference board) for the wiki entry?

Best regards,
Daniel
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[Ethernut]

Daniel wrote:

> Fixed!
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernut

Gosh! That was fast.

> Harald, am I allowed to use the images from ethernut.de (e.g. the
> reference board) for the wiki entry?

You can use any of them. However, those on egnite.de are typically
nicer. You can freely use any of them and release them on Wikipedia
under any free license you want to choose.

Harald

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[Ethernut]

Harald Kipp wrote:

> As far as we can tell, there are at least 10,000 nodes running Nut/OS
> world wide, probably much more. Btw. due to the ICMP bug, you can easily
> recognize them using ping. ;-)

I was told by our sales, that we actually sold more than 15,000 boards.
A large number had been used for development only. The figure given
above was based on known products, like the Dutch Kerkwebradio or a very
large installation of one of our direct customers. The more I think
about it, the more the number grows. Our sales figure is the only one,
that's reliable, at least for me.

I updated the entry accordingly and added a few more hardware vendors.

There are more in China, where someone also published this book
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51D5W9R8spL._AA500_.jpg
Unfortunately I cannot read Chinese.

Harald


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[uprinz]

Hi Daniel and welcome as a beginner :)

I am not sure in which direction your question is going, but I think you
don't have to fear that the system is going to starve. I am not related
to egnite and therfore can tell, that there are some big companies using
this system.
Additionally new projects from Elektor will base on nutos even egnite is
not involved with the projects.

So if you like the system, start right in and meet a friendly and
competent community in this mailinglist.

Best regards
Ulrich
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[samkelo tyatyantsi]

Hello,



> I am not related to egnite and therfore can tell, that there are some big companies using  this system.



 Well, I must say that Nut/OS project is exciting, some of my developments are based on Nut/OS in South Africa.

 
> So if you like the system, start right in and meet a friendly and
> competent community in this mailinglist.


And yes! the community is friendly.



Best Regards.
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[Michael Jones-11]

Harald Kipp wrote:

>> As far as we can tell, there are at least 10,000 nodes running Nut/OS
>> world wide, probably much more. Btw. due to the ICMP bug, you can easily
>> recognize them using ping. ;-)

>I was told by our sales, that we actually sold more than 15,000 boards.
>A large number had been used for development only. The figure given
>above was based on known products, like the Dutch Kerkwebradio or a very
>large installation of one of our direct customers. The more I think
>about it, the more the number grows. Our sales figure is the only one,
>that's reliable, at least for me.

Count us (www.L-S-B.de) in with another 4500+ boards running Nut/OS...

And, I'm still active and sad to find myself removed from the contributor
list...

Cu,
Michael

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