ODF amendments for colored sheet tabs and more border types

[Kirill S. Palagin]

Hello everybody.
 
We have highly desired issues
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5560 and
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8275 , which require
amendments for ODF specification. Issue 5560 is even implemented in
code.
So could somebody, who is member of OASIS ODF committee, introduce these
two proposals for next version of ODF?
 
TIA.
WBR,
KP.

[Peter Junge-2]

Hi Kirill,

I will not have the time to take action on these issues myself, but I
would like to briefly summarize how you (and of course others) can get
heard by the OASIS ODF TC.

For each standards TC, OASIS is offering a public comment list and they
have a policy, that each comment submitted must be tracked. I am a
member of the ODF TC for only six month now, but so far the process
seems to work, hence I can recommend using the list. As there are some
policies to consider, please have a look at [1] to learn about it and
also find the information for subscribing to the mailing list there.

Your comment to the ODF list can be just like the original mail, but I
would recommend to add some information like name, contact, application
(e.g. text, spreadsheet or presentation), category (formatting in your
case) and a brief use case.

If you or anyone else would like to invest more time, you might consider
to submit a complete proposal. A proposal template you can find at [2],
examples are available at [3].
Please refer the ODF TC wiki for more information [4].

Best regards,
Peter

[1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=office
[2] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/ProposalTemplate
[3] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/List_of_Proposals
[4] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office


Kirill S. Palagin wrote:

> Hello everybody.
>  
> We have highly desired issues
> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5560 and
> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8275 , which require
> amendments for ODF specification. Issue 5560 is even implemented in
> code.
> So could somebody, who is member of OASIS ODF committee, introduce these
> two proposals for next version of ODF?
>  
> TIA.
> WBR,
> KP.
>

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[Mathias Bauer]

Hi,

please let me add that posting a comment and - if possible - a proposal
to the list is the fastest way to move things forward. This way
everybody else in the TC (e.g. those interested in OOo) can pick it up
and help getting this into the standard.

If you wait for someone else doing this, e.g. a Sun developer that got
the issues assigned to, it will take much longer as a legal review is
necessary before this can happen (we can't take over suggestions from
others and bring them to the list without checking the situation wrt.
intellectual properties).

This is a good opportunity to contribute and make a difference.

Regards,
Mathias

Peter Junge wrote:

> Hi Kirill,
>
> I will not have the time to take action on these issues myself, but I
> would like to briefly summarize how you (and of course others) can get
> heard by the OASIS ODF TC.
>
> For each standards TC, OASIS is offering a public comment list and they
> have a policy, that each comment submitted must be tracked. I am a
> member of the ODF TC for only six month now, but so far the process
> seems to work, hence I can recommend using the list. As there are some
> policies to consider, please have a look at [1] to learn about it and
> also find the information for subscribing to the mailing list there.
>
> Your comment to the ODF list can be just like the original mail, but I
> would recommend to add some information like name, contact, application
> (e.g. text, spreadsheet or presentation), category (formatting in your
> case) and a brief use case.
>
> If you or anyone else would like to invest more time, you might consider
> to submit a complete proposal. A proposal template you can find at [2],
> examples are available at [3].
> Please refer the ODF TC wiki for more information [4].
>
> Best regards,
> Peter
>
> [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=office
> [2] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/ProposalTemplate
> [3] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/List_of_Proposals
> [4] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office
>
>
> Kirill S. Palagin wrote:
>> Hello everybody.
>>  
>> We have highly desired issues
>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5560 and
>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8275 , which require
>> amendments for ODF specification. Issue 5560 is even implemented in
>> code.
>> So could somebody, who is member of OASIS ODF committee, introduce these
>> two proposals for next version of ODF?
>>  
>> TIA.
>> WBR,
>> KP.
>>
>
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[Kirill S. Palagin]

Hello Peter, Mathias, everybody.

I have submitted first part of my proposal  -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-comment/200907/msg00003.html

Seeing that it did not generate a lot of feedback I would like to ask if
I used the right list.

TIA.
WBR,
KP.


Peter Junge wrote:

> Hi Kirill,
>
> I will not have the time to take action on these issues myself, but I
> would like to briefly summarize how you (and of course others) can get
> heard by the OASIS ODF TC.
>
> For each standards TC, OASIS is offering a public comment list and they
> have a policy, that each comment submitted must be tracked. I am a
> member of the ODF TC for only six month now, but so far the process
> seems to work, hence I can recommend using the list. As there are some
> policies to consider, please have a look at [1] to learn about it and
> also find the information for subscribing to the mailing list there.
>
> Your comment to the ODF list can be just like the original mail, but I
> would recommend to add some information like name, contact, application
> (e.g. text, spreadsheet or presentation), category (formatting in your
> case) and a brief use case.
>
> If you or anyone else would like to invest more time, you might consider
> to submit a complete proposal. A proposal template you can find at [2],
> examples are available at [3].
> Please refer the ODF TC wiki for more information [4].
>
> Best regards,
> Peter
>
> [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=office
> [2] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/ProposalTemplate
> [3] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/List_of_Proposals
> [4] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office
>
>
> Kirill S. Palagin wrote:
>  
>> Hello everybody.
>>  
>> We have highly desired issues
>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5560 and
>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8275 , which require
>> amendments for ODF specification. Issue 5560 is even implemented in
>> code.
>> So could somebody, who is member of OASIS ODF committee, introduce these
>> two proposals for next version of ODF?
>>  
>> TIA.
>> WBR,
>> KP.

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[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems]

Hi Kirill,

you have used the right list.

The ODF TC is tracking all the comments/requests/questions coming in on
this mailing list. Unfortunately, the backlog on working on these items
has grown in the past, because the ODF TC is concentrating on finishing
ODF 1.2

Best regards, Oliver.

Kirill Palagin wrote:

> Hello Peter, Mathias, everybody.
>
> I have submitted first part of my proposal  -
> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-comment/200907/msg00003.html
>
> Seeing that it did not generate a lot of feedback I would like to ask if
> I used the right list.
>
> TIA.
> WBR,
> KP.
>
>
> Peter Junge wrote:
>> Hi Kirill,
>>
>> I will not have the time to take action on these issues myself, but I
>> would like to briefly summarize how you (and of course others) can get
>> heard by the OASIS ODF TC.
>>
>> For each standards TC, OASIS is offering a public comment list and they
>> have a policy, that each comment submitted must be tracked. I am a
>> member of the ODF TC for only six month now, but so far the process
>> seems to work, hence I can recommend using the list. As there are some
>> policies to consider, please have a look at [1] to learn about it and
>> also find the information for subscribing to the mailing list there.
>>
>> Your comment to the ODF list can be just like the original mail, but I
>> would recommend to add some information like name, contact, application
>> (e.g. text, spreadsheet or presentation), category (formatting in your
>> case) and a brief use case.
>>
>> If you or anyone else would like to invest more time, you might consider
>> to submit a complete proposal. A proposal template you can find at [2],
>> examples are available at [3].
>> Please refer the ODF TC wiki for more information [4].
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Peter
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=office
>> [2] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/ProposalTemplate
>> [3] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/List_of_Proposals
>> [4] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office
>>
>>
>> Kirill S. Palagin wrote:
>>  
>>> Hello everybody.
>>>  
>>> We have highly desired issues
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5560 and
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8275 , which require
>>> amendments for ODF specification. Issue 5560 is even implemented in
>>> code.
>>> So could somebody, who is member of OASIS ODF committee, introduce these
>>> two proposals for next version of ODF?
>>>  
>>> TIA.
>>> WBR,
>>> KP.
>
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[Peter Junge-2]

Hi Kirill,

thanks a lot for sending the proposal. It will surely get my vote.
Unfortunately, it's unlikely, that you get feedback from the ODF TC
there. There's is a policy, that OASIS comment lists are exclusively for
public comments, but it's not intended to be used for discussions
between a technical committee and the general public. To what I
understand this has a legal background, because feedback you give is
under an 'Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) Policy'.
http://www.oasis-open.org/who/intellectualproperty.php
INAL, so please excuse me, that I'm not trying to explain it. ;-)
(wanted to give an example, but found it rather clumsy than
enlightening, hence deleted it again)

Best regards,
Peter

Kirill Palagin wrote:

> Hello Peter, Mathias, everybody.
>
> I have submitted first part of my proposal  -
> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-comment/200907/msg00003.html
>
> Seeing that it did not generate a lot of feedback I would like to ask if
> I used the right list.
>
> TIA.
> WBR,
> KP.
>
>
> Peter Junge wrote:
>> Hi Kirill,
>>
>> I will not have the time to take action on these issues myself, but I
>> would like to briefly summarize how you (and of course others) can get
>> heard by the OASIS ODF TC.
>>
>> For each standards TC, OASIS is offering a public comment list and they
>> have a policy, that each comment submitted must be tracked. I am a
>> member of the ODF TC for only six month now, but so far the process
>> seems to work, hence I can recommend using the list. As there are some
>> policies to consider, please have a look at [1] to learn about it and
>> also find the information for subscribing to the mailing list there.
>>
>> Your comment to the ODF list can be just like the original mail, but I
>> would recommend to add some information like name, contact, application
>> (e.g. text, spreadsheet or presentation), category (formatting in your
>> case) and a brief use case.
>>
>> If you or anyone else would like to invest more time, you might consider
>> to submit a complete proposal. A proposal template you can find at [2],
>> examples are available at [3].
>> Please refer the ODF TC wiki for more information [4].
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Peter
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=office
>> [2] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/ProposalTemplate
>> [3] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/List_of_Proposals
>> [4] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office
>>
>>
>> Kirill S. Palagin wrote:
>>  
>>> Hello everybody.
>>>  
>>> We have highly desired issues
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5560 and
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8275 , which require
>>> amendments for ODF specification. Issue 5560 is even implemented in
>>> code.
>>> So could somebody, who is member of OASIS ODF committee, introduce these
>>> two proposals for next version of ODF?
>>>  
>>> TIA.
>>> WBR,
>>> KP.
>
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[Kirill S. Palagin]

Thanks a lot Peter, Oliver-Rainer!
WBR,
KP.

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