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OSx and Linux Users Check Flash Player 10 Beta!

by Sebastian Wagner :: Rate this Message:

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hi,

I just checked the new Flash Player 10 Beta, and it solves an Issue with the Publishing of Video (CPU Power at 100%)

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/

I read they have hardware acceleration for Video now under the hood
get it ;),
somebody can verify for Linux if its also solved now? The CPU for me stays at around 30% if I publish with iSight Camera.

sebastian

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Re: OSx and Linux Users Check Flash Player 10 Beta!

by Argenacho :: Rate this Message:

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Wow, great news! Something that I'm really curious about is this:
 

RTMFP (Real Time Media Flow Protocol) — RTMFP provides a UDP-based secure network transport alternative to RTMP-over-TCP. To take advantage of the feature you will need to establish a net connection via future releases of Flash Media Server or other Adobe server products. UDP (User Datagram Protocol) is an efficient and standardized Internet protocol for delivering media assets because of its support for lossy delivery, improving performance of real time communication. RTMFP is always encrypted which helps protect media delivery. This technology is a result of Adobe's acquisition of Amicima, Inc. in 2006. If you are interested in being part of the private prerelease for RTMFP, please send an email to fmsprerelease@... with your contact details.

Finally UDP Streaming!!!!! What does the red5 team thinks about this?? It would be a great asset to the red5 server!


On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Sebastian Wagner <seba.wagner@...> wrote:
hi,

I just checked the new Flash Player 10 Beta, and it solves an Issue with the Publishing of Video (CPU Power at 100%)

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/

I read they have hardware acceleration for Video now under the hood
get it ;),
somebody can verify for Linux if its also solved now? The CPU for me stays at around 30% if I publish with iSight Camera.

sebastian

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Re: OSx and Linux Users Check Flash Player 10 Beta!

by vicnov :: Rate this Message:

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Yes, really great thing with UDP.
Also, there will be a new audio codec, but no new video codec to encode
video from camera :-(

Also interesting thing:
"Dynamic Streaming — Always show the best video possible with streams
that can automatically adjust to changing network conditions. By
changing bitrates, you can keep your user engaged and avoid
start-and-stop video. Dynamic streaming provides the best possible
experience to the video consumer based on their bandwidth environment."

Victor

Ignacio Lopez wrote:

> Wow, great news! Something that I'm really curious about is this:
>  
>
> _RTMFP (Real Time Media Flow Protocol)_ — RTMFP provides a UDP-based
> secure network transport alternative to RTMP-over-TCP. To take advantage
> of the feature you will need to establish a net connection via future
> releases of Flash Media Server or other Adobe server products. UDP (User
> Datagram Protocol) is an efficient and standardized Internet protocol
> for delivering media assets because of its support for lossy delivery,
> improving performance of real time communication. RTMFP is always
> encrypted which helps protect media delivery. This technology is a
> result of Adobe's acquisition of Amicima, Inc. in 2006. If you are
> interested in being part of the private prerelease for RTMFP, please
> send an email to fmsprerelease@...
> <mailto:fmsprerelease@...> with your contact details.
>
> Finally UDP Streaming!!!!! What does the red5 team thinks about this??
> It would be a great asset to the red5 server!
>
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Sebastian Wagner
> <seba.wagner@... <mailto:seba.wagner@...>> wrote:
>
>     hi,
>
>     I just checked the new Flash Player 10 Beta, and it solves an Issue
>     with the Publishing of Video (CPU Power at 100%)
>
>     http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
>
>     I read they have hardware acceleration for Video now under the hood
>     get it ;),
>     somebody can verify for Linux if its also solved now? The CPU for me
>     stays at around 30% if I publish with iSight Camera.
>
>     sebastian
>
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Re: OSx and Linux Users Check Flash Player 10 Beta!

by paperworld :: Rate this Message:

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Did someone say UDP?
 
finally, thank you!

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Victor <dreamland_skib2@...> wrote:
Yes, really great thing with UDP.
Also, there will be a new audio codec, but no new video codec to encode
video from camera :-(

Also interesting thing:
"Dynamic Streaming — Always show the best video possible with streams
that can automatically adjust to changing network conditions. By
changing bitrates, you can keep your user engaged and avoid
start-and-stop video. Dynamic streaming provides the best possible
experience to the video consumer based on their bandwidth environment."

Victor

Ignacio Lopez wrote:
> Wow, great news! Something that I'm really curious about is this:
>
>
> _RTMFP (Real Time Media Flow Protocol)_ — RTMFP provides a UDP-based
> secure network transport alternative to RTMP-over-TCP. To take advantage
> of the feature you will need to establish a net connection via future
> releases of Flash Media Server or other Adobe server products. UDP (User
> Datagram Protocol) is an efficient and standardized Internet protocol
> for delivering media assets because of its support for lossy delivery,
> improving performance of real time communication. RTMFP is always
> encrypted which helps protect media delivery. This technology is a
> result of Adobe's acquisition of Amicima, Inc. in 2006. If you are
> interested in being part of the private prerelease for RTMFP, please
> send an email to fmsprerelease@...
> <mailto:fmsprerelease@...> with your contact details.
>
> Finally UDP Streaming!!!!! What does the red5 team thinks about this??
> It would be a great asset to the red5 server!
>
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Sebastian Wagner
> <seba.wagner@... <mailto:seba.wagner@...>> wrote:
>
>     hi,
>
>     I just checked the new Flash Player 10 Beta, and it solves an Issue
>     with the Publishing of Video (CPU Power at 100%)
>
>     http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
>
>     I read they have hardware acceleration for Video now under the hood
>     get it ;),
>     somebody can verify for Linux if its also solved now? The CPU for me
>     stays at around 30% if I publish with iSight Camera.
>
>     sebastian
>
>     --
>     Sebastian Wagner
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Re: OSx and Linux Users Check Flash Player 10 Beta!

by Argenacho :: Rate this Message:

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Yeah, I read that this feature will be available "only to FMS users"......another challenge for the red5 team and all of us!

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Victor <dreamland_skib2@...> wrote:
Yes, really great thing with UDP.
Also, there will be a new audio codec, but no new video codec to encode
video from camera :-(

Also interesting thing:
"Dynamic Streaming — Always show the best video possible with streams
that can automatically adjust to changing network conditions. By
changing bitrates, you can keep your user engaged and avoid
start-and-stop video. Dynamic streaming provides the best possible
experience to the video consumer based on their bandwidth environment."

Victor

Ignacio Lopez wrote:
> Wow, great news! Something that I'm really curious about is this:
>
>
> _RTMFP (Real Time Media Flow Protocol)_ — RTMFP provides a UDP-based
> secure network transport alternative to RTMP-over-TCP. To take advantage
> of the feature you will need to establish a net connection via future
> releases of Flash Media Server or other Adobe server products. UDP (User
> Datagram Protocol) is an efficient and standardized Internet protocol
> for delivering media assets because of its support for lossy delivery,
> improving performance of real time communication. RTMFP is always
> encrypted which helps protect media delivery. This technology is a
> result of Adobe's acquisition of Amicima, Inc. in 2006. If you are
> interested in being part of the private prerelease for RTMFP, please
> send an email to fmsprerelease@...
> <mailto:fmsprerelease@...> with your contact details.
>
> Finally UDP Streaming!!!!! What does the red5 team thinks about this??
> It would be a great asset to the red5 server!
>
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Sebastian Wagner
> <seba.wagner@... <mailto:seba.wagner@...>> wrote:
>
>     hi,
>
>     I just checked the new Flash Player 10 Beta, and it solves an Issue
>     with the Publishing of Video (CPU Power at 100%)
>
>     http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
>
>     I read they have hardware acceleration for Video now under the hood
>     get it ;),
>     somebody can verify for Linux if its also solved now? The CPU for me
>     stays at around 30% if I publish with iSight Camera.
>
>     sebastian
>
>     --
>     Sebastian Wagner
>     http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de/>
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Re: OSx and Linux Users Check Flash Player 10 Beta!

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As for CPU usage in Linux when streaming video,
I do not see any significant difference between latest FP 9 (9,0,124,0)
and 10. CPU usage is ~5%. I would not say that video playback from
camera is always smooth in Flex app, but, mostly, everything is ok.

Victor


Sebastian Wagner wrote:

> hi,
>
> I just checked the new Flash Player 10 Beta, and it solves an Issue with
> the Publishing of Video (CPU Power at 100%)
>
> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
>
> I read they have hardware acceleration for Video now under the hood
> get it ;),
> somebody can verify for Linux if its also solved now? The CPU for me
> stays at around 30% if I publish with iSight Camera.

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Re: [openmeetings-dev] Re: OSx and Linux Users Check Flash Player 10 Beta!

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* As for CPU usage in Linux when streaming video,*
=> I mean Video publishing/broadcasting from client to server not streaming from server to client.

sebastian

2008/5/15 Victor <dreamland_skib2@...>:

As for CPU usage in Linux when streaming video,
I do not see any significant difference between latest FP 9 (9,0,124,0)
and 10. CPU usage is ~5%. I would not say that video playback from
camera is always smooth in Flex app, but, mostly, everything is ok.

Victor


Sebastian Wagner wrote:
> hi,
>
> I just checked the new Flash Player 10 Beta, and it solves an Issue with
> the Publishing of Video (CPU Power at 100%)
>
> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
>
> I read they have hardware acceleration for Video now under the hood
> get it ;),
> somebody can verify for Linux if its also solved now? The CPU for me
> stays at around 30% if I publish with iSight Camera.

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Re: [openmeetings-dev] Re: OSx and Linux Users Check Flash Player 10 Beta!

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Publishing from Flash Player (9,0,124,0) to Red5 in Linux also works
perfectly. Firefox/Flash CPU usage is ~5-10%.

Victor

Sebastian Wagner wrote:

> * As for CPU usage in Linux when streaming video,*
> => I mean Video publishing/broadcasting from client to server not
> streaming from server to client.
>
> sebastian
>
> 2008/5/15 Victor <dreamland_skib2@...
> <mailto:dreamland_skib2@...>>:
>
>
>     As for CPU usage in Linux when streaming video,
>     I do not see any significant difference between latest FP 9 (9,0,124,0)
>     and 10. CPU usage is ~5%. I would not say that video playback from
>     camera is always smooth in Flex app, but, mostly, everything is ok.
>
>     Victor
>
>
>     Sebastian Wagner wrote:
>      > hi,
>      >
>      > I just checked the new Flash Player 10 Beta, and it solves an
>     Issue with
>      > the Publishing of Video (CPU Power at 100%)
>      >
>      > http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
>      >
>      > I read they have hardware acceleration for Video now under the hood
>      > get it ;),
>      > somebody can verify for Linux if its also solved now? The CPU for me
>      > stays at around 30% if I publish with iSight Camera.
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Re: [openmeetings-dev] Re: [openmeetings-dev] Re: OSx and Linux Users Check Flash Player 10 Beta!

by Sebastian Wagner :: Rate this Message:

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OK!

2008/5/15 Victor <dreamland_skib2@...>:

Publishing from Flash Player (9,0,124,0) to Red5 in Linux also works
perfectly. Firefox/Flash CPU usage is ~5-10%.

Victor

Sebastian Wagner wrote:
> * As for CPU usage in Linux when streaming video,*
> => I mean Video publishing/broadcasting from client to server not
> streaming from server to client.
>
> sebastian
>
> 2008/5/15 Victor <dreamland_skib2@...
> <mailto:dreamland_skib2@...>>:
>
>
>     As for CPU usage in Linux when streaming video,
>     I do not see any significant difference between latest FP 9 (9,0,124,0)
>     and 10. CPU usage is ~5%. I would not say that video playback from
>     camera is always smooth in Flex app, but, mostly, everything is ok.
>
>     Victor
>
>
>     Sebastian Wagner wrote:
>      > hi,
>      >
>      > I just checked the new Flash Player 10 Beta, and it solves an
>     Issue with
>      > the Publishing of Video (CPU Power at 100%)
>      >
>      > http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
>      >
>      > I read they have hardware acceleration for Video now under the hood
>      > get it ;),
>      > somebody can verify for Linux if its also solved now? The CPU for me
>      > stays at around 30% if I publish with iSight Camera.
>
>     >
>
>
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Re: [openmeetings-dev] Re: [openmeetings-dev] Re: OSx and Linux Users Check Flash Player 10 Beta!

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Luke did some work on our UDP implementation quite some time ago (look in the build.xml)... not sure where it stands though.

Paul

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Sebastian Wagner <seba.wagner@...> wrote:
OK!

2008/5/15 Victor <dreamland_skib2@...>:

Publishing from Flash Player (9,0,124,0) to Red5 in Linux also works
perfectly. Firefox/Flash CPU usage is ~5-10%.

Victor

Sebastian Wagner wrote:
> * As for CPU usage in Linux when streaming video,*
> => I mean Video publishing/broadcasting from client to server not
> streaming from server to client.
>
> sebastian
>
> 2008/5/15 Victor <dreamland_skib2@...
> <mailto:dreamland_skib2@...>>:
>
>
>     As for CPU usage in Linux when streaming video,
>     I do not see any significant difference between latest FP 9 (9,0,124,0)
>     and 10. CPU usage is ~5%. I would not say that video playback from
>     camera is always smooth in Flex app, but, mostly, everything is ok.
>
>     Victor
>
>
>     Sebastian Wagner wrote:
>      > hi,
>      >
>      > I just checked the new Flash Player 10 Beta, and it solves an
>     Issue with
>      > the Publishing of Video (CPU Power at 100%)
>      >
>      > http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
>      >
>      > I read they have hardware acceleration for Video now under the hood
>      > get it ;),
>      > somebody can verify for Linux if its also solved now? The CPU for me
>      > stays at around 30% if I publish with iSight Camera.
>
>     >
>
>
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Re: [openmeetings-dev] Re: [openmeetings-dev] Re: OSx and Linux Users Check Flash Player 10 Beta!

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Yeah, i think i know what that was for.... we were looking at connecting to Red5 from a screenweaver app (using haxe/neko) so as not to have to rely on RTMP over TCP.
 
We got as far as thowing byte arrays back and forth i think but not much further... if this is something we can do in Red5 now from Flash then i'm VERY interested in looking into it from both ends - especially as i'd already written a load of multi-user code for working over UDP (handling lost/out of order packets etc.) - seems a shame to waste it!
 
I'll give you a shout, paul, when i know more.
 
T

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Mondain <mondain@...> wrote:
Luke did some work on our UDP implementation quite some time ago (look in the build.xml)... not sure where it stands though.

Paul


On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Sebastian Wagner <seba.wagner@...> wrote:
OK!

2008/5/15 Victor <dreamland_skib2@...>:

Publishing from Flash Player (9,0,124,0) to Red5 in Linux also works
perfectly. Firefox/Flash CPU usage is ~5-10%.

Victor

Sebastian Wagner wrote:
> * As for CPU usage in Linux when streaming video,*
> => I mean Video publishing/broadcasting from client to server not
> streaming from server to client.
>
> sebastian
>
> 2008/5/15 Victor <dreamland_skib2@...
> <mailto:dreamland_skib2@...>>:
>
>
>     As for CPU usage in Linux when streaming video,
>     I do not see any significant difference between latest FP 9 (9,0,124,0)
>     and 10. CPU usage is ~5%. I would not say that video playback from
>     camera is always smooth in Flex app, but, mostly, everything is ok.
>
>     Victor
>
>
>     Sebastian Wagner wrote:
>      > hi,
>      >
>      > I just checked the new Flash Player 10 Beta, and it solves an
>     Issue with
>      > the Publishing of Video (CPU Power at 100%)
>      >
>      > http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
>      >
>      > I read they have hardware acceleration for Video now under the hood
>      > get it ;),
>      > somebody can verify for Linux if its also solved now? The CPU for me
>      > stays at around 30% if I publish with iSight Camera.
>
>     >
>
>
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