OT "supercollider"-mode for python?

[Till Bovermann]

Hello,

I find the sc-way of developing (select text, send it to the language)  
very useful, esp. for JIT programming.
As I am now also developing in python, I wondered if anyone knows a  
way to do so in a proper way with python, too…

Using TextMate for developing btw.

cheers and a happy day :-)
        Till

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[chris kummerer]

I read:
> I find the sc-way of developing (select text, send it to the language)
> very useful, esp. for JIT programming.
> As I am now also developing in python, I wondered if anyone knows a way
> to do so in a proper way with python, too…

emacs' python mode does that, no idea about textmate though

HTH

x

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[felix-38]

there's Execute line/selection as Python

but you won't have the memory space of a normal interactive scripting language.

you have only the normal python shell.

there is iPython, a better shell:

http://ipython.scipy.org/

and you can easily drag or copy and paste text from a text document into your terminal.

and with applescript you can do anything :)

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Till Bovermann <tboverma@...> wrote:

Hello,

I find the sc-way of developing (select text, send it to the language) very useful, esp. for JIT programming.
As I am now also developing in python, I wondered if anyone knows a way to do so in a proper way with python, too…

Using TextMate for developing btw.

cheers and a happy day :-)
       Till

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[LFSaw]

On 12.04.2009, at 20:16, felix wrote:

>
> there's Execute line/selection as Python
>
> but you won't have the memory space of a normal interactive  
> scripting language.

Well, that's where the fun begins

>
> you have only the normal python shell.
>
> there is iPython, a better shell:
> http://ipython.scipy.org/

also not an option, at least because I did not get it to work properly

> and you can easily drag or copy and paste text from a text document  
> into your terminal.

hmmm, not that convenient…

>
> and with applescript you can do anything :)

I cannot do anything with applescript…


Chris:
Thanx, unfortunately, emacs is not an option, because in my 6 years of  
os x usage I, unfortunately, did not get emacs to work properly…
perhaps it's time to give it a go again, though.

cheers
        Till

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[renick]

Don't know how well it works, but vim has a python interpreter built in.

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[Rob Watson]

Hi Till,

I've built a small tool - sc3ctrl - which might help you. It allows control of SuperCollider.app from the command line, via Open Sound Control messages.

You should also check out my SuperCollider bundle for TextMate, which uses sc3ctrl internally for most of its functionality.

Both are available at http://github.com/rfwatson.

cheers,
Rob

2009/4/12 Till Bovermann <tboverma@...>

Hello,

I find the sc-way of developing (select text, send it to the language) very useful, esp. for JIT programming.
As I am now also developing in python, I wondered if anyone knows a way to do so in a proper way with python, too…

Using TextMate for developing btw.

cheers and a happy day :-)
       Till

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[LFSaw]

Hey,

I was't aware of that you control supercollider via OSC… that's kindof  
cool and weird at the same time…
Will look into it.
Does it has some kind of, well, security builtin? just curious…

your textmate bundle Rocks, btw.!


@Renrick:
Thanx for that vim comment.
I am in the happy position to know how to exit vim without breaking  
code (esc:q!, btw… for those interested), and that's pretty much all  
my vim experience so far…


So, does this mean I have to build an interactive python shell the  
supercollider-way by myself, and no-one ever has done this before?  
JmC, you should definitely sell that idea of the interactive editor,  
then! (but it was part of smalltalk-derivatives, before, i guess… :-)

regards and thanx for thoughts and insights
        Till




On 14.04.2009, at 11:32, Rob Watson wrote:

> Hi Till,
>
> I've built a small tool - sc3ctrl - which might help you. It allows  
> control of SuperCollider.app from the command line, via Open Sound  
> Control messages.
>
> You should also check out my SuperCollider bundle for TextMate,  
> which uses sc3ctrl internally for most of its functionality.
>
> Both are available at http://github.com/rfwatson.
>
> cheers,
> Rob
>
>
>
> 2009/4/12 Till Bovermann <tboverma@...>
> Hello,
>
> I find the sc-way of developing (select text, send it to the  
> language) very useful, esp. for JIT programming.
> As I am now also developing in python, I wondered if anyone knows a  
> way to do so in a proper way with python, too…
>
> Using TextMate for developing btw.
>
> cheers and a happy day :-)
>        Till
>
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[nescivi]

Hiho,

On Tuesday 14 April 2009 16:38:00 LFSaw wrote:
> So, does this mean I have to build an interactive python shell the
> supercollider-way by myself, and no-one ever has done this before?

not sure...
you should ask on Python programmer lists too.
We all use SC here, but don't all use Python.

sincerely,
Marije

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[David Worrall-2]

Hi Till,

I'm not a TextMate user, so I can't help in that regard.
For what it's worth, I use VIM and/or IDLE (which I think comes w.  
MacPython - the preferred python)
then I use the triple-quote string (""" or ''') blocks to isolate all  
but what I'm testing, and then execute run the file.
This permits a more flexible for incremental dev. than select/execute  
and is just as fast, in the end.
The only thing to watch is to use " not use """ comments inside  
function definitions (for later use by pydoc) until the dev. phase is  
finished.
IDLE used to have the select/execute method but no longer.
It does have two windows- a keyword coloured editor and a python shell  
so you can copy-paste directly to that.
And of course, it's not expensive (read "free").
Contact me off SC list if you want to discuss this more.

Was it you asking about executing SC code from python? (I'm in and out  
of this list) I've got some python code for piping SClang code and  
also some for OSC to SCsynth, but they're pretty "scripty" at the  
moment.

ciao,

David

On 14/04/2009, at 7:32 PM, Rob Watson wrote:

> Hi Till,
>
> I've built a small tool - sc3ctrl - which might help you. It allows  
> control of SuperCollider.app from the command line, via Open Sound  
> Control messages.
>
> You should also check out my SuperCollider bundle for TextMate,  
> which uses sc3ctrl internally for most of its functionality.
>
> Both are available at http://github.com/rfwatson.
>
> cheers,
> Rob
>
>
>
> 2009/4/12 Till Bovermann <tboverma@...>
> Hello,
>
> I find the sc-way of developing (select text, send it to the  
> language) very useful, esp. for JIT programming.
> As I am now also developing in python, I wondered if anyone knows a  
> way to do so in a proper way with python, too…
>
> Using TextMate for developing btw.
>
> cheers and a happy day :-)
>        Till
>
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[LFSaw]

Hey,



On 15.04.2009, at 03:06, nescivi wrote:

> Hiho,
>
> On Tuesday 14 April 2009 16:38:00 LFSaw wrote:
>> So, does this mean I have to build an interactive python shell the
>> supercollider-way by myself, and no-one ever has done this before?
>
> not sure...
> you should ask on Python programmer lists too.
> We all use SC here, but don't all use Python.

I know, but I really don't know how to describe that particular  
feature to the rest of the world (read: non-sc users)…
But I guess I'll try…

lg + thanx for your comments
        Till

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[renick]

> I know, but I really don't know how to describe that particular feature to
> the rest of the world (read: non-sc users)…

Maybe the term you are missing is REPL. The feature you want is the
ability to send selected text from your editor to a REPL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REPL

I haven't tried it yet, but this might be what you are looking for:

http://technotales.wordpress.com/2007/10/03/like-slime-for-vim/

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[renick]

In fact, this seems to be exactly what you are looking for:

http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2495

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[LFSaw]

hey,

wow. that looks really cool.
Thanx for all the words; I'll try it ASAP :-)

REPL!
        Till


On 15.04.2009, at 10:16, Renick Bell wrote:

> In fact, this seems to be exactly what you are looking for:
>
> http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2495
>
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[LFSaw]

Hey,

I released TM_InteractivePython here[1], a TextMate Bundle  
implementing REPL for python based on this thread.
Feedback welcome.

A big thanx goes to technotalesfor explanation of REPL-modes for vim,  
and Renick for ponting me to REPL, Thomas H. for his initial idea, and  
of course the SuperCollider community, which inspired me to look for  
such a way to get python REPL'y to work in TextMate.


REPL!
        Till

[1] http://blog.lfsaw.de/wordpress/?p=362



On 15.04.2009, at 10:31, LFSaw wrote:

> hey,
>
> wow. that looks really cool.
> Thanx for all the words; I'll try it ASAP :-)
>
> REPL!
> Till
>
>
> On 15.04.2009, at 10:16, Renick Bell wrote:
>
>> In fact, this seems to be exactly what you are looking for:
>>
>> http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2495
>>
>> --
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>> http://the3rd2nd.com
>>
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