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by Stefano Buelow :: Rate this Message:

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Hello.

Does anybody know if there's a way to operate read-write offline with Exchange Calendar ? Using the classic Connector (formerly ximian connector) the calendar is available offline in read-only mode.
Anybody tested the same with a Brutus infrascructure ?

Thanks


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Re: Offline Exchange Calendar

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On 09/07/2008, at 14.57, Stefano Buelow wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Does anybody know if there's a way to operate read-write offline  
> with Exchange Calendar ? Using the classic Connector (formerly  
> ximian connector) the calendar is available offline in read-only mode.
> Anybody tested the same with a Brutus infrascructure ?

e-b makes the Exchange folders (the Calendar included) r/o when offline.

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Re: Offline Exchange Calendar

by Stefano Buelow :: Rate this Message:

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Thx Jules

So apparently there's no way to obtain R/W access when offline. Any Ideas ?

Cheers

On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:00 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
On 09/07/2008, at 14.57, Stefano Buelow wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Does anybody know if there's a way to operate read-write offline  
> with Exchange Calendar ? Using the classic Connector (formerly  
> ximian connector) the calendar is available offline in read-only mode.
> Anybody tested the same with a Brutus infrascructure ?

e-b makes the Exchange folders (the Calendar included) r/o when offline.

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Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
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Re: Offline Exchange Calendar

by Jules Colding :: Rate this Message:

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On 09/07/2008, at 15.22, Stefano Buelow wrote:

> Thx Jules
>
> So apparently there's no way to obtain R/W access when offline. Any  
> Ideas ?

To the local cache you mean? Not that I know of (in evo that is). Why  
do you want that?

BR,
   jules



>
>
> Cheers
>
> On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:00 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
>>
>> On 09/07/2008, at 14.57, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>>
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > Does anybody know if there's a way to operate read-write offline
>> > with Exchange Calendar ? Using the classic Connector (formerly
>> > ximian connector) the calendar is available offline in read-only  
>> mode.
>> > Anybody tested the same with a Brutus infrascructure ?
>>
>> e-b makes the Exchange folders (the Calendar included) r/o when  
>> offline.
>>
>> --
>>    jules
>>
>>
>>
> --
>               Stefano Buelow
> --------------------------------------------
> LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
> C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
> Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
>            http://www.logx.it/
>
> Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
>                   0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56
>
> --
> Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o
> contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e'
> risultato non infetto.

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Re: Offline Exchange Calendar

by Stefano Buelow :: Rate this Message:

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I've got a customer with some eeePC that wants to work on Exchange Calendar locally while offline. Outlook implements this feature, and with this feature missing in evolution I think that eeeUbuntu on eeePC won't be a viable solution.
Maybe there's something completely different from Evolution that works that way. You know any ?

Thx

On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:25 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
On 09/07/2008, at 15.22, Stefano Buelow wrote:

> Thx Jules
>
> So apparently there's no way to obtain R/W access when offline. Any  
> Ideas ?

To the local cache you mean? Not that I know of (in evo that is). Why  
do you want that?

BR,
   jules



>
>
> Cheers
>
> On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:00 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
>>
>> On 09/07/2008, at 14.57, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>>
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > Does anybody know if there's a way to operate read-write offline
>> > with Exchange Calendar ? Using the classic Connector (formerly
>> > ximian connector) the calendar is available offline in read-only  
>> mode.
>> > Anybody tested the same with a Brutus infrascructure ?
>>
>> e-b makes the Exchange folders (the Calendar included) r/o when  
>> offline.
>>
>> -- 
>>    jules
>>
>>
>>
> -- 
>               Stefano Buelow
> --------------------------------------------
> LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
> C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
> Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
>            http://www.logx.it/
>
> Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
>                   0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56
>
> -- 
> Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o
> contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e'
> risultato non infetto.


-- 
              Stefano Buelow
--------------------------------------------
LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
           http://www.logx.it/

Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
                  0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56

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Re: Offline Exchange Calendar

by Jules Colding :: Rate this Message:

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On 09/07/2008, at 15.54, Stefano Buelow wrote:

> I've got a customer with some eeePC that wants to work on Exchange  
> Calendar locally while offline. Outlook implements this feature, and  
> with this feature missing in evolution I think that eeeUbuntu on  
> eeePC won't be a viable solution.
> Maybe there's something completely different from Evolution that  
> works that way. You know any ?

Not really... All of the methods to read and write to the cache is in  
Evolution (e-d-s actually) so you may just possible be in luck.

BR,
   jules



>
>
> Thx
>
> On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:25 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
>>
>> On 09/07/2008, at 15.22, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>>
>> > Thx Jules
>> >
>> > So apparently there's no way to obtain R/W access when offline. Any
>> > Ideas ?
>>
>> To the local cache you mean? Not that I know of (in evo that is). Why
>> do you want that?
>>
>> BR,
>>    jules
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:00 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 09/07/2008, at 14.57, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hello.
>> >> >
>> >> > Does anybody know if there's a way to operate read-write offline
>> >> > with Exchange Calendar ? Using the classic Connector (formerly
>> >> > ximian connector) the calendar is available offline in read-only
>> >> mode.
>> >> > Anybody tested the same with a Brutus infrascructure ?
>> >>
>> >> e-b makes the Exchange folders (the Calendar included) r/o when
>> >> offline.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>    jules
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > --
>> >               Stefano Buelow
>> > --------------------------------------------
>> > LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
>> > C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
>> > Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
>> >            http://www.logx.it/
>> >
>> > Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
>> >                   0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56
>> >
>> > --
>> > Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o
>> > contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e'
>> > risultato non infetto.
>>
>>
> --
>               Stefano Buelow
> --------------------------------------------
> LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
> C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
> Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
>            http://www.logx.it/
>
> Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
>                   0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56
>
> --
> Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o
> contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e'
> risultato non infetto.

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Re: Offline Exchange Calendar

by Stefano Buelow :: Rate this Message:

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I'm not sure I understand your answer
Is it up to the Evolution team to develop this feature or could it be implemented by separate connectors (i.e. brutus).
Eventually is 42tools going to develop this feature ?

Thx

On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:59 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
On 09/07/2008, at 15.54, Stefano Buelow wrote:

> I've got a customer with some eeePC that wants to work on Exchange  
> Calendar locally while offline. Outlook implements this feature, and  
> with this feature missing in evolution I think that eeeUbuntu on  
> eeePC won't be a viable solution.
> Maybe there's something completely different from Evolution that  
> works that way. You know any ?

Not really... All of the methods to read and write to the cache is in  
Evolution (e-d-s actually) so you may just possible be in luck.

BR,
   jules



>
>
> Thx
>
> On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:25 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
>>
>> On 09/07/2008, at 15.22, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>>
>> > Thx Jules
>> >
>> > So apparently there's no way to obtain R/W access when offline. Any
>> > Ideas ?
>>
>> To the local cache you mean? Not that I know of (in evo that is). Why
>> do you want that?
>>
>> BR,
>>    jules
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:00 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 09/07/2008, at 14.57, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hello.
>> >> >
>> >> > Does anybody know if there's a way to operate read-write offline
>> >> > with Exchange Calendar ? Using the classic Connector (formerly
>> >> > ximian connector) the calendar is available offline in read-only
>> >> mode.
>> >> > Anybody tested the same with a Brutus infrascructure ?
>> >>
>> >> e-b makes the Exchange folders (the Calendar included) r/o when
>> >> offline.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>    jules
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > --
>> >               Stefano Buelow
>> > --------------------------------------------
>> > LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
>> > C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
>> > Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
>> >            http://www.logx.it/
>> >
>> > Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
>> >                   0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56
>> >
>> > --
>> > Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o
>> > contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e'
>> > risultato non infetto.
>>
>>
> -- 
>               Stefano Buelow
> --------------------------------------------
> LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
> C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
> Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
>            http://www.logx.it/
>
> Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
>                   0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56
>
> -- 
> Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o
> contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e'
> risultato non infetto.


-- 
              Stefano Buelow
--------------------------------------------
LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
           http://www.logx.it/

Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
                  0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56

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Re: Offline Exchange Calendar

by Jules Colding :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Stefano,

On 09/07/2008, at 16.04, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>
> I'm not sure I understand your answer
> Is it up to the Evolution team to develop this feature or could it  
> be implemented by separate connectors (i.e. brutus).

It is entirely up to the e-d-s backend to take care of caching and  
whether the cache may be synchronized with the remote data store. The  
utility methods for reading and writing to the cache is in e-d-s but  
the hard part is doing the sync logic. Most backends, as far as I  
know, do not implement any synchronization of modified offline cache  
data with the backend data store.


> Eventually is 42tools going to develop this feature ?

Maybe, it depends on time, resources and whether e-b keeps living as a  
separate component outside Evolution or is merged. Not much suggest  
that is ever going to happen whether or not libmapi is merged.


Best regards,
   jules


>
> On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:59 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
>>
>> On 09/07/2008, at 15.54, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>>
>> > I've got a customer with some eeePC that wants to work on Exchange
>> > Calendar locally while offline. Outlook implements this feature,  
>> and
>> > with this feature missing in evolution I think that eeeUbuntu on
>> > eeePC won't be a viable solution.
>> > Maybe there's something completely different from Evolution that
>> > works that way. You know any ?
>>
>> Not really... All of the methods to read and write to the cache is in
>> Evolution (e-d-s actually) so you may just possible be in luck.
>>
>> BR,
>>    jules
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Thx
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:25 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 09/07/2008, at 15.22, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Thx Jules
>> >> >
>> >> > So apparently there's no way to obtain R/W access when  
>> offline. Any
>> >> > Ideas ?
>> >>
>> >> To the local cache you mean? Not that I know of (in evo that  
>> is). Why
>> >> do you want that?
>> >>
>> >> BR,
>> >>    jules
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:00 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 09/07/2008, at 14.57, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hello.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Does anybody know if there's a way to operate read-write  
>> offline
>> >> >> > with Exchange Calendar ? Using the classic Connector  
>> (formerly
>> >> >> > ximian connector) the calendar is available offline in read-
>> only
>> >> >> mode.
>> >> >> > Anybody tested the same with a Brutus infrascructure ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> e-b makes the Exchange folders (the Calendar included) r/o when
>> >> >> offline.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>    jules
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> > --
>> >> >               Stefano Buelow
>> >> > --------------------------------------------
>> >> > LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
>> >> > C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
>> >> > Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
>> >> >            http://www.logx.it/
>> >> >
>> >> > Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
>> >> >                   0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o
>> >> > contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e'
>> >> > risultato non infetto.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > --
>> >               Stefano Buelow
>> > --------------------------------------------
>> > LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
>> > C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
>> > Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
>> >            http://www.logx.it/
>> >
>> > Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
>> >                   0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56
>> >
>> > --
>> > Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o
>> > contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e'
>> > risultato non infetto.
>>
>>
> --
>               Stefano Buelow
> --------------------------------------------
> LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
> C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
> Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
>            http://www.logx.it/
>
> Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
>                   0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56
>
> --
> Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o
> contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e'
> risultato non infetto.

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Re: Offline Exchange Calendar

by Stefano Buelow :: Rate this Message:

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Thank for all the answers Jules

I'll keep ears open for the future :-)

Best Regards

On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 16:16 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
Hi Stefano,

On 09/07/2008, at 16.04, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>
> I'm not sure I understand your answer
> Is it up to the Evolution team to develop this feature or could it  
> be implemented by separate connectors (i.e. brutus).

It is entirely up to the e-d-s backend to take care of caching and  
whether the cache may be synchronized with the remote data store. The  
utility methods for reading and writing to the cache is in e-d-s but  
the hard part is doing the sync logic. Most backends, as far as I  
know, do not implement any synchronization of modified offline cache  
data with the backend data store.


> Eventually is 42tools going to develop this feature ?

Maybe, it depends on time, resources and whether e-b keeps living as a  
separate component outside Evolution or is merged. Not much suggest  
that is ever going to happen whether or not libmapi is merged.


Best regards,
   jules


>
> On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:59 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
>>
>> On 09/07/2008, at 15.54, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>>
>> > I've got a customer with some eeePC that wants to work on Exchange
>> > Calendar locally while offline. Outlook implements this feature,  
>> and
>> > with this feature missing in evolution I think that eeeUbuntu on
>> > eeePC won't be a viable solution.
>> > Maybe there's something completely different from Evolution that
>> > works that way. You know any ?
>>
>> Not really... All of the methods to read and write to the cache is in
>> Evolution (e-d-s actually) so you may just possible be in luck.
>>
>> BR,
>>    jules
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Thx
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:25 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 09/07/2008, at 15.22, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Thx Jules
>> >> >
>> >> > So apparently there's no way to obtain R/W access when  
>> offline. Any
>> >> > Ideas ?
>> >>
>> >> To the local cache you mean? Not that I know of (in evo that  
>> is). Why
>> >> do you want that?
>> >>
>> >> BR,
>> >>    jules
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:00 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 09/07/2008, at 14.57, Stefano Buelow wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hello.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Does anybody know if there's a way to operate read-write  
>> offline
>> >> >> > with Exchange Calendar ? Using the classic Connector  
>> (formerly
>> >> >> > ximian connector) the calendar is available offline in read- 
>> only
>> >> >> mode.
>> >> >> > Anybody tested the same with a Brutus infrascructure ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> e-b makes the Exchange folders (the Calendar included) r/o when
>> >> >> offline.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>    jules
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> > --
>> >> >               Stefano Buelow
>> >> > --------------------------------------------
>> >> > LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
>> >> > C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
>> >> > Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
>> >> >            http://www.logx.it/
>> >> >
>> >> > Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
>> >> >                   0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o
>> >> > contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e'
>> >> > risultato non infetto.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > --
>> >               Stefano Buelow
>> > --------------------------------------------
>> > LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
>> > C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
>> > Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
>> >            http://www.logx.it/
>> >
>> > Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
>> >                   0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56
>> >
>> > --
>> > Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o
>> > contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e'
>> > risultato non infetto.
>>
>>
> -- 
>               Stefano Buelow
> --------------------------------------------
> LogX s.a.s.        stefano.buelow[at]logx.it
> C.so Traiano 64/14 - 10135 Torino (TO) Italy
> Tel: +39-0114474065       Fax:+39-0114305886
>            http://www.logx.it/
>
> Key Fingerprint = 9D57 06EA 3EE3 C191 BDA0
>                   0654 2378 FC6F 9B8C EA56
>
> -- 
> Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o
> contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e'
> risultato non infetto.



--
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