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On a capability-structured universe

by Kevin Reid-2 :: Rate this Message:

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I've occasionally pondered the idea of simulating a capability-
structured universe; it would be essentially a capability operating  
system on a finite machine, but with a design such that the amount of  
computation occurring is constant ("conserved"); i.e. there are no  
errors such that programs stop and are not replaced by something else.

It occurred to me that the latter portion of Greg Egan's _Schild's  
Ladder_ depicts something similar to how such a universe (containing  
complex structures) might end up, or at least, similarly different  
from the universe we have. Well, so far as I recall the details; it's  
been a year or two since I read it.

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Re: On a capability-structured universe

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It seems like ambient authority is similar to an objective universe  
(each subject basically sees similar stuff), and ocaps are similar to  
a subjective universe (each subject sees their capabilities).  Reality  
is a mixture between the two.


On Aug 19, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Kevin Reid wrote:

> I've occasionally pondered the idea of simulating a capability-
> structured universe; it would be essentially a capability operating
> system on a finite machine, but with a design such that the amount of
> computation occurring is constant ("conserved"); i.e. there are no
> errors such that programs stop and are not replaced by something else.
>
> It occurred to me that the latter portion of Greg Egan's _Schild's
> Ladder_ depicts something similar to how such a universe (containing
> complex structures) might end up, or at least, similarly different
> from the universe we have. Well, so far as I recall the details; it's
> been a year or two since I read it.
>
> --
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> >
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Re: On a capability-structured universe

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My ocap-universe idea was more along the lines of unguessability than
unforgeability: you can jump to arbitrary points in space (as defined
by a particular relativistic frame and made free of paradoxes by the
analysis here: http://tinyurl.com/mkny98) but the coordinates are
unpredictable, so you effectively can't get to anywhere in particular
unless you know its address, since the coordinate space is too big to
brute-force.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:03 PM, John
Carlson<john.carlson3@...> wrote:

> It seems like ambient authority is similar to an objective universe
> (each subject basically sees similar stuff), and ocaps are similar to
> a subjective universe (each subject sees their capabilities).  Reality
> is a mixture between the two.
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Kevin Reid wrote:
>
>> I've occasionally pondered the idea of simulating a capability-
>> structured universe; it would be essentially a capability operating
>> system on a finite machine, but with a design such that the amount of
>> computation occurring is constant ("conserved"); i.e. there are no
>> errors such that programs stop and are not replaced by something else.
>>
>> It occurred to me that the latter portion of Greg Egan's _Schild's
>> Ladder_ depicts something similar to how such a universe (containing
>> complex structures) might end up, or at least, similarly different
>> from the universe we have. Well, so far as I recall the details; it's
>> been a year or two since I read it.
>>
>> --
>> Kevin Reid                                  <http://switchb.org/kpreid/
>> >
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