OpenCms presence in the vein of other CMS mentioning on Wikis

[Christoph P. Kukulies]

It's probably not my task to care about marketing strategies of OpenCMS
but during investigations I found that OpenCMS is no longer mentioned
on http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Web-Content-Management-System
while it seems to have been mentioned there in 2006 (the author of the
talk:
http://bloghouse.org/sites/www.bloghouse.org/files/cms_vergleich.pdf
at least mentioned it at that time)

Would be nice OpenCMS could make it there again.

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[Shi Yusen]

Mmm, here is an example of user's decision (It seems OpenCms is not
popular in U.S.A.):
http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/WEB/Content+Management+System
+Selection

In Java, I guess OpenCms is No. 1. Most of the others are PHP systems.

Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.


在 2009-06-22一的 19:10 +0200，Christoph P. Kukulies写道：

> It's probably not my task to care about marketing strategies of OpenCMS
> but during investigations I found that OpenCMS is no longer mentioned
> on http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Web-Content-Management-System
> while it seems to have been mentioned there in 2006 (the author of the
> talk:
> http://bloghouse.org/sites/www.bloghouse.org/files/cms_vergleich.pdf
> at least mentioned it at that time)
>
> Would be nice OpenCMS could make it there again.
>
> --
> Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de
>
>
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[Tosi, Joel-2]

I think the first question to ask would be against what apps is OpenCms being compared to.  A company using joomla for example is going to have different requirements versus someone looking at OpenCms.  I wouldn't say 'open source cms' is a catch all tag.


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Sent: Mon Jun 22 14:58:42 2009
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms presence in the vein of other CMS mentioning on Wikis

Mmm, here is an example of user's decision (It seems OpenCms is not
popular in U.S.A.):
http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/WEB/Content+Management+System
+Selection

In Java, I guess OpenCms is No. 1. Most of the others are PHP systems.

Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.


在 2009-06-22一的 19:10 +0200，Christoph P. Kukulies写道：

> It's probably not my task to care about marketing strategies of OpenCMS
> but during investigations I found that OpenCMS is no longer mentioned
> on http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Web-Content-Management-System
> while it seems to have been mentioned there in 2006 (the author of the
> talk:
> http://bloghouse.org/sites/www.bloghouse.org/files/cms_vergleich.pdf
> at least mentioned it at that time)
>
> Would be nice OpenCMS could make it there again.
>
> --
> Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de
>
>
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[Isaac R. Higgins]

I reviewed 30-40 CMSs a few years ago before settling with OpenCMS as my favorite then spending several weeks pushing it on my clients.

I used http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ for the brunt of the work, but ultimtely the decision was made because of the rich feature set intuitive use of the application.  Currently, we have 400+ content authors and almost all of them love the system.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon 6/22/2009 4:06 PM
To: 'opencms-dev@...'
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms presence in the vein of other CMS mentioning on Wikis
 
I think the first question to ask would be against what apps is OpenCms being compared to.  A company using joomla for example is going to have different requirements versus someone looking at OpenCms.  I wouldn't say 'open source cms' is a catch all tag.


----- Original Message -----
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To: The OpenCms mailing list <opencms-dev@...>
Sent: Mon Jun 22 14:58:42 2009
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms presence in the vein of other CMS mentioning on Wikis

Mmm, here is an example of user's decision (It seems OpenCms is not
popular in U.S.A.):
http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/WEB/Content+Management+System
+Selection

In Java, I guess OpenCms is No. 1. Most of the others are PHP systems.

Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.


? 2009-06-22?? 19:10 +0200,Christoph P. Kukulies??:

> It's probably not my task to care about marketing strategies of OpenCMS
> but during investigations I found that OpenCMS is no longer mentioned
> on http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Web-Content-Management-System
> while it seems to have been mentioned there in 2006 (the author of the
> talk:
> http://bloghouse.org/sites/www.bloghouse.org/files/cms_vergleich.pdf
> at least mentioned it at that time)
>
> Would be nice OpenCMS could make it there again.
>
> --
> Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de
>
>
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[Shi Yusen]

And I think there are still some functions should be considered as
default, such as flash template.

Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.


在 2009-06-22一的 15:06 -0500，Tosi, Joel写道：

> I think the first question to ask would be against what apps is OpenCms being compared to.  A company using joomla for example is going to have different requirements versus someone looking at OpenCms.  I wouldn't say 'open source cms' is a catch all tag.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: opencms-dev-bounces@... <opencms-dev-bounces@...>
> To: The OpenCms mailing list <opencms-dev@...>
> Sent: Mon Jun 22 14:58:42 2009
> Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms presence in the vein of other CMS mentioning on Wikis
>
> Mmm, here is an example of user's decision (It seems OpenCms is not
> popular in U.S.A.):
> http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/WEB/Content+Management+System
> +Selection
>
> In Java, I guess OpenCms is No. 1. Most of the others are PHP systems.
>
> Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.
>
>
> 在 2009-06-22一的 19:10 +0200，Christoph P. Kukulies写道：
> > It's probably not my task to care about marketing strategies of OpenCMS
> > but during investigations I found that OpenCMS is no longer mentioned
> > on http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Web-Content-Management-System
> > while it seems to have been mentioned there in 2006 (the author of the
> > talk:
> > http://bloghouse.org/sites/www.bloghouse.org/files/cms_vergleich.pdf
> > at least mentioned it at that time)
> >
> > Would be nice OpenCMS could make it there again.
> >
> > --
> > Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de
> >
> >
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[Tosi, Joel-2]

Agreed 100%.  Our users have been itching for that as well as general video embedding.  We created a flash template but it was too complicated to use and we haven't refactored it yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: opencms-dev-bounces@... [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Shi Yusen
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:36 PM
To: The OpenCms mailing list
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms presence in the vein of other CMS mentioning on Wikis

And I think there are still some functions should be considered as default, such as flash template.

Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.


在 2009-06-22一的 15:06 -0500，Tosi, Joel写道：

> I think the first question to ask would be against what apps is OpenCms being compared to.  A company using joomla for example is going to have different requirements versus someone looking at OpenCms.  I wouldn't say 'open source cms' is a catch all tag.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: opencms-dev-bounces@...
> <opencms-dev-bounces@...>
> To: The OpenCms mailing list <opencms-dev@...>
> Sent: Mon Jun 22 14:58:42 2009
> Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms presence in the vein of other CMS
> mentioning on Wikis
>
> Mmm, here is an example of user's decision (It seems OpenCms is not
> popular in U.S.A.):
> http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/WEB/Content+Management+System
> +Selection
>
> In Java, I guess OpenCms is No. 1. Most of the others are PHP systems.
>
> Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.
>
>
> 在 2009-06-22一的 19:10 +0200，Christoph P. Kukulies写道：
> > It's probably not my task to care about marketing strategies of
> > OpenCMS but during investigations I found that OpenCMS is no longer
> > mentioned on
> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Web-Content-Management-System
> > while it seems to have been mentioned there in 2006 (the author of
> > the
> > talk:
> > http://bloghouse.org/sites/www.bloghouse.org/files/cms_vergleich.pdf
> > at least mentioned it at that time)
> >
> > Would be nice OpenCMS could make it there again.
> >
> > --
> > Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de
> >
> >
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[yellowtrolley]

I am not an expert on openCms. I am a java developer and somehow I got myself developing an application that uses it. It works pretty well out of the box and the code is very well commented but I am very much looking forward to finish the project because developing with openCms is slow and frustrating. IMHO it does not follow open source philosophy. It has been around for quite a few years but documentation is still scarce.

I don't know other cms though...

2009/6/22 Isaac R. Higgins <isaac.higgins@...>

I reviewed 30-40 CMSs a few years ago before settling with OpenCMS as my favorite then spending several weeks pushing it on my clients.

I used http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ for the brunt of the work, but ultimtely the decision was made because of the rich feature set intuitive use of the application.  Currently, we have 400+ content authors and almost all of them love the system.

-----Original Message-----
From: opencms-dev-bounces@... on behalf of Tosi, Joel
Sent: Mon 6/22/2009 4:06 PM
To: 'opencms-dev@...'
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms presence in the vein of other CMS mentioning on Wikis

I think the first question to ask would be against what apps is OpenCms being compared to.  A company using joomla for example is going to have different requirements versus someone looking at OpenCms.  I wouldn't say 'open source cms' is a catch all tag.


----- Original Message -----
From: opencms-dev-bounces@... <opencms-dev-bounces@...>
To: The OpenCms mailing list <opencms-dev@...>
Sent: Mon Jun 22 14:58:42 2009
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms presence in the vein of other CMS mentioning on Wikis

Mmm, here is an example of user's decision (It seems OpenCms is not
popular in U.S.A.):
http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/WEB/Content+Management+System
+Selection

In Java, I guess OpenCms is No. 1. Most of the others are PHP systems.

Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.

? 2009-06-22?? 19:10 +0200,Christoph P. Kukulies??:

> It's probably not my task to care about marketing strategies of OpenCMS
> but during investigations I found that OpenCMS is no longer mentioned
> on http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Web-Content-Management-System
> while it seems to have been mentioned there in 2006 (the author of the
> talk:
> http://bloghouse.org/sites/www.bloghouse.org/files/cms_vergleich.pdf
> at least mentioned it at that time)
>
> Would be nice OpenCMS could make it there again.
>
> --
> Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de
>
>
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I don’t know if there is any other direct parallel to opencms in the pureplay web cms. The other cms I worked on is a proprietary solution from a new York based company. Very popular amongst large companies in US. NYT, WalMArt, Cisco are three clients of this system. OpenCms, unfortunately, does not even figure in the analysis for most companies. I am finding it pretty alright as far as web cms is concerned. However, I wonder if there are any personalization features in opencms… as far as I can see there exist none…

 

Tim

 

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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms presence in the vein of other CMS mentioning on Wikis

 

I am not an expert on openCms. I am a java developer and somehow I got myself developing an application that uses it. It works pretty well out of the box and the code is very well commented but I am very much looking forward to finish the project because developing with openCms is slow and frustrating. IMHO it does not follow open source philosophy. It has been around for quite a few years but documentation is still scarce.

I don't know other cms though...

 

 

2009/6/22 Isaac R. Higgins <isaac.higgins@...>

I reviewed 30-40 CMSs a few years ago before settling with OpenCMS as my favorite then spending several weeks pushing it on my clients.

I used http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ for the brunt of the work, but ultimtely the decision was made because of the rich feature set intuitive use of the application.  Currently, we have 400+ content authors and almost all of them love the system.

-----Original Message-----
From: opencms-dev-bounces@... on behalf of Tosi, Joel
Sent: Mon 6/22/2009 4:06 PM
To: 'opencms-dev@...'
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms presence in the vein of other CMS mentioning on Wikis

I think the first question to ask would be against what apps is OpenCms being compared to.  A company using joomla for example is going to have different requirements versus someone looking at OpenCms.  I wouldn't say 'open source cms' is a catch all tag.


----- Original Message -----
From: opencms-dev-bounces@... <opencms-dev-bounces@...>
To: The OpenCms mailing list <opencms-dev@...>
Sent: Mon Jun 22 14:58:42 2009
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms presence in the vein of other CMS mentioning on Wikis

Mmm, here is an example of user's decision (It seems OpenCms is not
popular in U.S.A.):
http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/WEB/Content+Management+System
+Selection

In Java, I guess OpenCms is No. 1. Most of the others are PHP systems.

Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.

? 2009-06-22?? 19:10 +0200,Christoph P. Kukulies??:

> It's probably not my task to care about marketing strategies of OpenCMS
> but during investigations I found that OpenCMS is no longer mentioned
> on http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Web-Content-Management-System
> while it seems to have been mentioned there in 2006 (the author of the
> talk:
> http://bloghouse.org/sites/www.bloghouse.org/files/cms_vergleich.pdf
> at least mentioned it at that time)
>
> Would be nice OpenCMS could make it there again.
>
> --
> Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de
>
>
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[Christoph P. Kukulies]

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 04:13:45PM -0500, Isaac R. Higgins wrote:
>
> I reviewed 30-40 CMSs a few years ago before settling with OpenCMS as my favorite then spending several weeks pushing it on my clients.
>
> I used http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ for the brunt of the work, but ultimtely the decision was made because of the rich feature set intuitive use of the application.  Currently, we have 400+ content authors and almost all of them love the system.

That's a great thing, this comparison matrix. Really cute.
Thanks,Isaac. And thanks for the opinions, Joel, Pablo and Shi.

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[Christoph P. Kukulies]

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:29:17PM -0500, Tim Daschner wrote:

> I don't know if there is any other direct parallel to opencms in the
> pureplay web cms. The other cms I worked on is a proprietary solution from a
> new York based company. Very popular amongst large companies in US. NYT,
> WalMArt, Cisco are three clients of this system. OpenCms, unfortunately,
> does not even figure in the analysis for most companies. I am finding it
> pretty alright as far as web cms is concerned. However, I wonder if there
> are any personalization features in opencms. as far as I can see there exist
> none.
>
>  
>
> Tim

At least there is the account management, you can define logins
(accounts) and groups, roles and permissions.

There once was a workflow module which I'm presently wishing to be back
in OpenCms.

--
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