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OpenJDK Forum: Contributing into OpenJDK 6
by Dalibor Topic-5
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Hi everyone,
I'd like to carry a bit of the great spirit of discussions from FOSDEM forward, so we're trying out something new: OpenJDK Forum Date/Time: Friday Feb. 27, 2008 8 AM Pacific, 1600 GMT, 5 PM Germany Subject: Contributing into OpenJDK 6 Call Host: Dalibor Topic Expected Participants: * Emily Chang * Joe Darcy * Mark Reinhold * Dalibor Topic + members of discuss@openjdk and jdk6-dev@openjdk mailing lists interested in the new Bugzilla-based contribution process and 'push' rights for OpenJDK 6 repositories. Synopsis: We will cover the new contribution process. We'll start by reviewing the new Bugzilla-based contribution process and expectations around establishing authorship (i.e. 'push') rights for the writable OpenJDK 6 repositories. We will then switch to open discussion mode to hear people's questions, concerns, and suggestions on the subject matter. The call will be recorded, and the recording will be made available after the call - in a free format, of course! Dial in numbers: Passcode: 5817876 Speed dial extension for developers inside Sun: x44414 Country Toll Numbers Freephone/Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0463 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4868 1-800-249-288 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0970 1-800-249-288 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1970 1-800-249-288 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7739 1-800-249-288 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5249 1-800-249-288 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8125 1-800-249-288 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-86-506 0800-005-029 BELGIUM 32-1-150-0314 0800-4-8680 BRAZIL 0800-7610674 CHILE 1230-020-2867 CHINA* 86-400-810-4766 10800-712-1433 10800-120-1433 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156430 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-54 800-700-173 DENMARK 45-7014-0280 8088-6132 ESTONIA 800-011-1089 FINLAND Land Line: 106-33-146 0-800-1-10100 FINLAND Mobile: 09-106-33-146 0-800-1-10100 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-81 080-563-9647 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-81 080-563-9647 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-74-20 080-563-9647 GERMANY 49-69-2222-2566 0800-000-3441 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0683 00800-12-6973 HONG KONG 852-2286-5731 800-930-705 HUNGARY 06-800-18013 INDIA 000-800-852-1266 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3787 IRELAND 353-1-247-5253 1800-932-145 ISRAEL 1-80-9214916 ITALY 39-02-3600-3642 800-986-570 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4769 0034-800-400828 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5189 0034-800-400828 LATVIA 8000-3025 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1360 MALAYSIA 1-800-80-2812 MEXICO 001-866-627-0574 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8533 0800-020-1392 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4769 0800-449-823 NORWAY 47-21-59-00-59 800-15414 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072129 PERU 0800-53733 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3715 POLAND 00-800-1212021 PORTUGAL 8008-14061 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-9683011 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9228 800-120-4662 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-21 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80416 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1081 00798-14800-6860 SPAIN 34-91-414-62-98 800-099-810 SWEDEN 46-8-505-78-524 0200-890-106 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-4389 0800-001-523 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7377 00801-137-766 THAILAND 001-800-1206-65656 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9021 0808-238-6025 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3221 0808-238-6025 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2121 0808-238-6025 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7075-3246 0808-238-6025 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1421 0808-238-6025 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3415 USA 1-203-418-3122 866-692-3163 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3733 cheers, dalibor topic -- ******************************************************************* Dalibor Topic Tel: (+49 40) 23 646 738 Java F/OSS Ambassador AIM: robiladonaim Sun Microsystems GmbH Mobile: (+49 177) 2664 192 Nagelsweg 55 http://openjdk.java.net D-20097 Hamburg mailto:Dalibor.Topic@... Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht München: HRB 161028 Geschäftsführer: Thomas Schröder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Bömer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Häring |
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Re: OpenJDK Forum: Contributing into OpenJDK 6
by Volker Simonis
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Hi,
sounds very interesting! I'll try to join the discussion on Friday. One point of special interest for us would be if SCSL licensees (and here especially the ones which signed the "commercial use" amendment) will be able to submit under the SCSL into this repository. From our point of view the SCSL is a true superset of the SCA and should cover everything covered by the SCA. We have also discussed this with Onno in the past who shared our point of view in this point, but as far as I know there has never been an "official" statement with regard to this topic. It would be nice if somebody can have a look at this, because I think it would considerably simplify the contribution process for certain SCSL licensees. With best regards, Volker On 2/24/09, Dalibor Topic <Dalibor.Topic@...> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'd like to carry a bit of the great spirit of discussions > from FOSDEM forward, so we're trying out something new: > > OpenJDK Forum > > Date/Time: Friday Feb. 27, 2008 8 AM Pacific, 1600 GMT, 5 PM Germany > > Subject: Contributing into OpenJDK 6 > > Call Host: Dalibor Topic > > Expected Participants: > > * Emily Chang > * Joe Darcy > * Mark Reinhold > * Dalibor Topic > > + members of discuss@openjdk and jdk6-dev@openjdk > mailing lists interested in the new Bugzilla-based > contribution process and 'push' rights for > OpenJDK 6 repositories. > > Synopsis: > > We will cover the new contribution process. We'll start by > reviewing the new Bugzilla-based contribution process and > expectations around establishing authorship (i.e. 'push') > rights for the writable OpenJDK 6 repositories. > > We will then switch to open discussion mode to hear people's > questions, concerns, and suggestions on the subject matter. > > The call will be recorded, and the recording will be made > available after the call - in a free format, of course! > > Dial in numbers: > > Passcode: 5817876 > > Speed dial extension for developers inside Sun: x44414 > > Country Toll Numbers Freephone/Toll Free Number > > ARGENTINA 0800-777-0463 > AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4868 1-800-249-288 > AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0970 1-800-249-288 > AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1970 1-800-249-288 > AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7739 1-800-249-288 > AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5249 1-800-249-288 > AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8125 1-800-249-288 > AUSTRIA 43-1-92-86-506 0800-005-029 > BELGIUM 32-1-150-0314 0800-4-8680 > BRAZIL 0800-7610674 > CHILE 1230-020-2867 > CHINA* 86-400-810-4766 10800-712-1433 > 10800-120-1433 > COLOMBIA 01800-9-156430 > CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-54 800-700-173 > DENMARK 45-7014-0280 8088-6132 > ESTONIA 800-011-1089 > FINLAND Land Line: 106-33-146 0-800-1-10100 > FINLAND Mobile: 09-106-33-146 0-800-1-10100 > FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-81 080-563-9647 > FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-81 080-563-9647 > FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-74-20 080-563-9647 > GERMANY 49-69-2222-2566 0800-000-3441 > GREECE 30-80-1-100-0683 00800-12-6973 > HONG KONG 852-2286-5731 800-930-705 > HUNGARY 06-800-18013 > INDIA 000-800-852-1266 > INDONESIA 001-803-011-3787 > IRELAND 353-1-247-5253 1800-932-145 > ISRAEL 1-80-9214916 > ITALY 39-02-3600-3642 800-986-570 > JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4769 0034-800-400828 > JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5189 0034-800-400828 > LATVIA 8000-3025 > LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1360 > MALAYSIA 1-800-80-2812 > MEXICO 001-866-627-0574 > NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8533 0800-020-1392 > NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4769 0800-449-823 > NORWAY 47-21-59-00-59 800-15414 > PANAMA 011-001-800-5072129 > PERU 0800-53733 > PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3715 > POLAND 00-800-1212021 > PORTUGAL 8008-14061 > RUSSIA 8-10-8002-9683011 > SINGAPORE 65-6883-9228 800-120-4662 > SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-21 > SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80416 > SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1081 00798-14800-6860 > SPAIN 34-91-414-62-98 800-099-810 > SWEDEN 46-8-505-78-524 0200-890-106 > SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-4389 0800-001-523 > TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7377 00801-137-766 > THAILAND 001-800-1206-65656 > UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9021 0808-238-6025 > UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3221 0808-238-6025 > UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2121 0808-238-6025 > UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7075-3246 0808-238-6025 > UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1421 0808-238-6025 > URUGUAY 000-413-598-3415 > USA 1-203-418-3122 866-692-3163 > VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3733 > > > cheers, > dalibor topic > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Dalibor Topic Tel: (+49 40) 23 646 738 > Java F/OSS Ambassador AIM: robiladonaim > Sun Microsystems GmbH Mobile: (+49 177) 2664 192 > Nagelsweg 55 http://openjdk.java.net > D-20097 Hamburg mailto:Dalibor.Topic@... > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten > Amtsgericht München: HRB 161028 > Geschäftsführer: Thomas Schröder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Bömer > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Häring > > > |
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Updates: OpenJDK Forum: Contributing into OpenJDK 6
by Dalibor Topic-5
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Dalibor Topic wrote:
> Hi everyone, > > I'd like to carry a bit of the great spirit of discussions > from FOSDEM forward, so we're trying out something new: > > OpenJDK Forum Expected Participants: I hope that we'll also be able to have Dmitri Trembovetski and Phil Race join us for the call. Since conference calls may be a somewhat new experience to some of us, here are a couple ground rules: * Please identify yourself by name and location when speaking. At least in theory, we could have more then one Dalibor on the call, for example, and for those of us not familiar with each Dalibor's voice, having a way to pick them apart is useful. * Please address individuals by name when speaking. That helps keep the discussion flowing, without causing confusion who a particular question, remark or idea is addressed to. * Please speak clearly and avoid side conversations and background noise. We'll use the #openjdk IRC channel on irc.oftc.net for side conversations. If you are not familiar with IRC clients, you can run the corresponding web start application at http://openjdk.java.net/irc/ . * Keeping the noise down When you're not speaking, please mute your own line by pressing *6 on your telephone keypad. To unmute press *6 again. * On Sun campus in SCA ? Please join Mark Reinhold in the conference room "Mars Bars" in building 22, second floor. cheers, dalibor topic -- ******************************************************************* Dalibor Topic Tel: (+49 40) 23 646 738 Java F/OSS Ambassador AIM: robiladonaim Sun Microsystems GmbH Mobile: (+49 177) 2664 192 Nagelsweg 55 http://openjdk.java.net D-20097 Hamburg mailto:Dalibor.Topic@... Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht München: HRB 161028 Geschäftsführer: Thomas Schröder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Bömer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Häring |
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Re: Updates: OpenJDK Forum: Contributing into OpenJDK 6
by Andrew Haley
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Hi there,
is a recording of the call available? Andrew. |
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Re: Updates: OpenJDK Forum: Contributing into OpenJDK 6
by Dalibor Topic-5
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Andrew Haley wrote:
> Hi there, > > is a recording of the call available? Not yet - it should become available later today. cheers, dalibor topic -- ******************************************************************* Dalibor Topic Tel: (+49 40) 23 646 738 Java F/OSS Ambassador AIM: robiladonaim Sun Microsystems GmbH Mobile: (+49 177) 2664 192 Nagelsweg 55 http://openjdk.java.net D-20097 Hamburg mailto:Dalibor.Topic@... Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht München: HRB 161028 Geschäftsführer: Thomas Schröder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Bömer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Häring |
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Re: Updates: OpenJDK Forum: Contributing into OpenJDK 6
by Mark Reinhold
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> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:34:08 +0100
> From: dalibor.topic@... > Andrew Haley wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> is a recording of the call available? > > Not yet - it should become available later today. Here you go: http://mediacast.sun.com/users/mreinholds/media/openjdk-forum-2009-02-27.ogg - Mark |
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Re: Updates: OpenJDK Forum: Contributing into OpenJDK 6
by Dalibor Topic-5
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Mark Reinhold wrote:
>> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:34:08 +0100 >> From: dalibor.topic@... > >> Andrew Haley wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> >>> is a recording of the call available? >> Not yet - it should become available later today. > > Here you go: > > http://mediacast.sun.com/users/mreinholds/media/openjdk-forum-2009-02-27.ogg > > - Mark And here are the rough meeting notes: OpenJDK Forum - Contributing into OpenJDK 6 Date: 2009-02-27 Participants: 22 Speakers (in order of first appearance): Dalibor Topic Mark Reinhold Joe Darcy Andrew Haley Dmitri Trembovetski Lillian Angel Martin Buchholz Phil Rice Volker Simonis Discussed items (in slightly adapted order): * OpenJDK 6 & writable repositories We have the OpenJDK 6 writable repositories. Marting Buchholz made some pushes, and we'd like to see more people do it. Potential patches to include in OpenJDK 6 would be IcedTea pacthes, security fixes, backports of fixes from OpenJDK 7. Ports like Zero or Shark are larger then simple backports, so they should go upstream. In order to make that happen, there is a desire to understand processes, and get up to speed as quickly as possible. * How do we go about merging in larger changes like Zero? - A large change like that should go into 7/6 simultaneously, or into 7 first. - Bugzilla entry for Zero - Create webrev - upload it on cr.openjdk.java.net server - Send it to HotSpot team for review - have someone mentor the external developers on the first merging steps - have them spread around different areas of expertise * Bugzilla We have a bugzilla up now, at the moment its purpose is to collect patches from developers without push rights. Simple process for contributions, and a draft of sponsorship process - mainly of interest to Sun engineers right now. Dalibor and Mark are poking Sun engineers to look at them. * What's the procedure for committers for a simple patch from IcedTea into OpenJDK 6? - generate webrev of the change for large change, diff is fine for small ones - post the patch on jdk6-dev and ask for review on jdk6-dev alias - approval from technology expert in the area (Joe and potentially others) - backport from OpenJDK 7 will usualy be appropriate - push the change into OpenJDK 6 * What's the process to get push rights into OpenJDK 6 ? - start with a few patches with some assistance - figure out the process with the mentors - get push rights * What's the merging activity planned for OpenJDK 6? - not much - some of the JDK 7 bug fixes planned for backporting and merge by Joe. - Martin expects 10 changes from him/Google he'd like to see in OpenJDK 6 * Can the backporting activity be delegated on more shoulders? - Joe would be happy for other people to do the backports and pushes - it's more of an issue to identify desirable fixes - once a fix is in 7 it's not very hard to backport into 6 The client team started a big push to forward port changes from 6uN into 7. * Should we use bugzilla to track merging activity? - gcc uses bugzilla for merging larger patches * Should we have small changes go through the list, and large changes through bugzilla? - Joe, Lillian are OK with that approach. * what areas to work on OpenJDK7 without duplicating effort ? - a good first batch of stuff is the small patches from IcedTea - and then have the conversation again - probably about Zero & the plugin * How about the IcedTea plugin? - it can likely be contributed under the SCA - it may make more sense for OpenJDK 6, then for OpenJDK 7, where Ken's plugin will appear - it can be replaced later if the new plugin is better - Sun isn't necessarily going to build & test it, but that's OK * what else do people want to work on? - porting - client-side speedups and size improvements - C++ interpreter (and tiered compilation) * Cultural differences in bringing out the review process into the open - A struggle we expect to continue to have for a while, but Sun engineers are coming to understand that it's a good thing * How to go about encouraging reviews to happen and to happen in the open? - hard to get past the known sub-group trust relationship regardless of sub-project - should we use reviewboard - we need to review it and put up an instance for experimental use by early summer - webrev robot from some sun teams, but reinforces sub-group trust relationships, and not hardened for life on the internet. - open source review tools usage not common in practice, but experience shows reviews are useful * Relationship and patch flow between OpenJDK 7 and various internal releases? - The vast majority on hg.openjdk.java.net - Small bit of left over encumbrancies for 7 internal at Sun - No internal 7 tree with a different code tree - The release engineering pulls every night from the hg to get the open code, and from the closed bits to turn them both into 7 builds - pushes to OpenJDK 7 will appear in the next 7 builds - a few build variables decide for some encumbered bits of code which one to use * Can SCSL licensees push directly without signing the SCA? No. There is a process to take SCSL-covered code and turn it into something that can be pushed into OpenJDK. The forum was successful, so we'll have another one in a few weeks time. cheers, dalibor topic -- ******************************************************************* Dalibor Topic Tel: (+49 40) 23 646 738 Java F/OSS Ambassador AIM: robiladonaim Sun Microsystems GmbH Mobile: (+49 177) 2664 192 Nagelsweg 55 http://openjdk.java.net D-20097 Hamburg mailto:Dalibor.Topic@... Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht München: HRB 161028 Geschäftsführer: Thomas Schröder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Bömer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Häring |
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