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by James Gill :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

Received the new Overo and Summit, and have just had a chance to give it all a go.

Following the instructions at http://www.gumstix.net/Software/view/Software-Overo/Getting-started/111.html (Getting Started), I was pleased to see it all boot and configure a lot of stuff, after which it produced the Angstrom banner and login prompt.

Slightly disappointed to find that it's not accepting any keyboard input, though, so I can't login.

I've checked the console settings, used both kermit and minicom, tried three other USB b-A cables. Same result each time.

Is there an additional step that I need to perform, or is it RMA time?

Many thanks,

James

 

 

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Re: Overo Console

by sakoman :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:16 AM, James Gill <james.gill@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Received the new Overo and Summit, and have just had a chance to give it all
> a go.
>
> Following the instructions at
> http://www.gumstix.net/Software/view/Software-Overo/Getting-started/111.html
> (Getting Started), I was pleased to see it all boot and configure a lot of
> stuff, after which it produced the Angstrom banner and login prompt.
>
> Slightly disappointed to find that it's not accepting any keyboard input,
> though, so I can't login.
>
> I've checked the console settings, used both kermit and minicom, tried three
> other USB b-A cables. Same result each time.

Are you sure you are using a proper USB OTG cable?  As the
instructions say, a standard mini-B to A cable that you have lying
around will *not* work.  You must use the white USB OTG cable
available from Gumstix or a cable specifically marked as an OTG cable.

These cables are not easy to find, so if you didn't order the Gumstix
white cable or special order an OTG cable, you are likely using the
wrong cable and it will not work.

Steve

> Is there an additional step that I need to perform, or is it RMA time?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>  James
> Gill
>
>
>
>  Consultant
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Re: Overo Console

by sakoman :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Steve Sakoman <sakoman@...> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:16 AM, James Gill <james.gill@...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Received the new Overo and Summit, and have just had a chance to give it all
>> a go.
>>
>> Following the instructions at
>> http://www.gumstix.net/Software/view/Software-Overo/Getting-started/111.html
>> (Getting Started), I was pleased to see it all boot and configure a lot of
>> stuff, after which it produced the Angstrom banner and login prompt.
>>
>> Slightly disappointed to find that it's not accepting any keyboard input,
>> though, so I can't login.
>>
>> I've checked the console settings, used both kermit and minicom, tried three
>> other USB b-A cables. Same result each time.
>
> Are you sure you are using a proper USB OTG cable?  As the
> instructions say, a standard mini-B to A cable that you have lying
> around will *not* work.  You must use the white USB OTG cable
> available from Gumstix or a cable specifically marked as an OTG cable.
>
> These cables are not easy to find, so if you didn't order the Gumstix
> white cable or special order an OTG cable, you are likely using the
> wrong cable and it will not work.

Just realized likely misread your post.  I was assuming you were
trying to use a USB keyboard attached to the OTG port with a display
attached to the HDMI port!

If you are trying to enter text to the console session using the
console usb port (which does work with a standard USB cable) then you
may indeed have bad hardware.  It is very unlikely in this case that
the USB cable is bad since you are getting the boot messages.

Steve

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Re: Overo Console

by PPaFin :: Rate this Message:

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I had exactly same problem when I got my overo + summit when it arrived.
(Serial access was not getting any input)

I used ubuntu linux and minicom terminal and got to spend quite a bit
configuring and trying different options, after I realized that 115k
speed without hardware handshaking is way to go.

And make sure that you're following your ttyUSB (in Linux) setting,
which can be inspected with dmesg command (in Linux).

Regards,

Pasi


Steve Sakoman wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Steve Sakoman <sakoman@...> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:16 AM, James Gill <james.gill@...> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Received the new Overo and Summit, and have just had a chance to give it all
>>> a go.
>>>
>>> Following the instructions at
>>> http://www.gumstix.net/Software/view/Software-Overo/Getting-started/111.html
>>> (Getting Started), I was pleased to see it all boot and configure a lot of
>>> stuff, after which it produced the Angstrom banner and login prompt.
>>>
>>> Slightly disappointed to find that it's not accepting any keyboard input,
>>> though, so I can't login.
>>>
>>> I've checked the console settings, used both kermit and minicom, tried three
>>> other USB b-A cables. Same result each time.
>> Are you sure you are using a proper USB OTG cable?  As the
>> instructions say, a standard mini-B to A cable that you have lying
>> around will *not* work.  You must use the white USB OTG cable
>> available from Gumstix or a cable specifically marked as an OTG cable.
>>
>> These cables are not easy to find, so if you didn't order the Gumstix
>> white cable or special order an OTG cable, you are likely using the
>> wrong cable and it will not work.
>
> Just realized likely misread your post.  I was assuming you were
> trying to use a USB keyboard attached to the OTG port with a display
> attached to the HDMI port!
>
> If you are trying to enter text to the console session using the
> console usb port (which does work with a standard USB cable) then you
> may indeed have bad hardware.  It is very unlikely in this case that
> the USB cable is bad since you are getting the boot messages.
>
> Steve
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Hi!
I had a similar problem where I connected using a the USB serial port. I saw the boot messages, kermit was setup correct I could connect a monitor and see the Enlighment desktop.  But could not enter anything on the keyboard. Problem was very simple : The oveero board was not properly connected :) , yes I'm very ashamed. Make sure the boards are properly connected , it is hard to distinguish if it is or not.
/arngrimur

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by James Gill :: Rate this Message:

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Hi everyone,

 

Thanks for all of the feedback. To cover the responses so far:

 

  • The connection is with the Console USB port, so a straight (black) mini -> A USB cable is being used.
  • Minicom and Kermit have the following configuration : 115200bps, 8N1, no flow control.
  • Have disconnected the two boards and reconnected them again. Returning to the “Getting Started” page, I noticed that both the Overo and the Summit both appear different to the models show on the page (http://www.gumstix.net/Software/view/Software-Overo/Getting-started/111.html). I’ve connected the Overo so that it lines up neatly with the Summit, with the fixing holes lined up. The microSD slot is facing the 40 I/O (?) holes next to the console USB port, rather than the back of the USB Host and HDMI ports.
    I guess that the picture on the Getting Started page is of the beta hardware (inc WiFi?).
  • In Kermit, I used the following commands before powering on the Overo:
    • set flow-control none
    • set carrier-watch off
    • set speed 115200
    • connect
  • I’ve tried with both the delivered (NAND) environment, and a bitbaked omap3-console-image + u-boot-omap3 on a microSD just in case. Same results.
  • I’ve also tried hooking up to an HDMI monitor. Neither the base (NAND), nor the bitbake build environment produced any output.
  • Also getting the following at the beginning of the boot cycle – should I be concerned about this?

OMAP3503-GP rev 2, CPU-OPP2 L3-165MHz

Gumstix Overo board + LPDDR/NAND

DRAM:  256 MB

NAND:  256 MiB

*** Warning - bad CRC or NAND, using default environment

 

I’m guessing that it’s time to send it back to Gumstix :-(

 

Thanks for all the input – let me know if you can think of anything else.

 

Cheers,

 

James

 

 

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Re: Overo Console

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On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:26 AM, James Gill <james.gill@...> wrote:

> *** Warning - bad CRC or NAND, using default environment

This message indicates that the u-boot environment partition in nand
is missing or corrupt.

The environment partition is written as part of the Gumstix
manufacturing process, so you should not get it unless you have
explicitly overwritten it.

And since you can't type commands, that seems unlikely!

It also seems strange that you see the boot progress to a login screen
on the console, yet see nothing on the hdmi display.

Both of these symptoms indicate hw gone bad to me.

> I'm guessing that it's time to send it back to Gumstix :-(

Sadly, I think that is the case :-(

Steve

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Re: Overo Console

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Thanks Steve. RMA'd back to Gumstix this afternoon.


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sakoman [mailto:sakoman@...]
Sent: 08 January 2009 14:58
To: General mailing list for gumstix users.
Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Overo Console

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:26 AM, James Gill <james.gill@...>
wrote:

> *** Warning - bad CRC or NAND, using default environment

This message indicates that the u-boot environment partition in nand
is missing or corrupt.

The environment partition is written as part of the Gumstix
manufacturing process, so you should not get it unless you have
explicitly overwritten it.

And since you can't type commands, that seems unlikely!

It also seems strange that you see the boot progress to a login screen
on the console, yet see nothing on the hdmi display.

Both of these symptoms indicate hw gone bad to me.

> I'm guessing that it's time to send it back to Gumstix :-(

Sadly, I think that is the case :-(

Steve



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Re: Overo Console

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Steve Sakoman wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:26 AM, James Gill <james.gill@...> wrote:
>
>> *** Warning - bad CRC or NAND, using default environment
>
> This message indicates that the u-boot environment partition in nand
> is missing or corrupt.
>
> The environment partition is written as part of the Gumstix
> manufacturing process,

Do you like to re-check this?

A friend ordered > 1 board and all boards show this. I'm really not
sure that this is an indication for broken board. I think this is just
an indication that environment was never written to NAND, a simple
"saveenv" command at U-Boot prompt will fix this annoying, but
harmless warning.

Best regards

Dirk


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Re: Overo Console

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I had the same problem with my Overo Fire / Summit setup since I got it last week.  I finally realized the absurd nature of my problem... Looks like whoever built my Summit board (rev.2430) neglected to populate IC3, which is used to buffer the RXD signal form the console FTDI chip back the the OMAP UART.   So nothing is connected to the OMAP RXD at all.  I can see a proper waveform when i type into the terminal session on my laptop and probe pad 2, where the buffer is supposed to be.  Looks like circuit is designed to show the OMAP RXD a high impedence when you arent plugged in to a console.  I just jumped pad 2 to pad 4 and now the console works like it should.  I can finally login with kermit and do stuff.

This (particular thing) is not a problem with the rev.2430 layout, just some batch of assembled boards from what I can assume.  

-zach

James Gill wrote:
Hi,

Received the new Overo and Summit, and have just had a chance to give it
all a go.

Following the instructions at
http://www.gumstix.net/Software/view/Software-Overo/Getting-started/111.
html (Getting Started), I was pleased to see it all boot and configure a
lot of stuff, after which it produced the Angstrom banner and login
prompt.

Slightly disappointed to find that it's not accepting any keyboard
input, though, so I can't login.

I've checked the console settings, used both kermit and minicom, tried
three other USB b-A cables. Same result each time.

Is there an additional step that I need to perform, or is it RMA time?

Many thanks,

James

 

 

 

 James Gill


 

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Re: Overo Console

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Hi James,

I had simialr problems when I first took delivery of my Overo Air and Tobi boards, I have two of each.

After searching through these pages I finally found the following link:

http://www.sakoman.com/feeds/omap3/glibc/images/overo/200906032120/

I downloaded all of the necessary pre-built packages and then copied them to Micro SD as instructed at the Gumstix pages... http://www.gumstix.net/Documentation/view/Overo/Creating-a-bootable-microSD-card/109.html.

On powering up the system I had to make further changes to get wifi, ethernet and Dropbear ssh all of which I now have working. I still do not have hdmi out, but I do not need this and I am now trying to build the mainline over-oe software.

Basically I was at the same point you are, I thought the boards were damaged, but it turned out that I just had to load the correct software and hey presto. It would be nice if they had shipped with this, but you can't have it that easy it seems.

I hope this helps.

Stuart
James Gill wrote:
Hi,

Received the new Overo and Summit, and have just had a chance to give it
all a go.

Following the instructions at
http://www.gumstix.net/Software/view/Software-Overo/Getting-started/111.
html (Getting Started), I was pleased to see it all boot and configure a
lot of stuff, after which it produced the Angstrom banner and login
prompt.

Slightly disappointed to find that it's not accepting any keyboard
input, though, so I can't login.

I've checked the console settings, used both kermit and minicom, tried
three other USB b-A cables. Same result each time.

Is there an additional step that I need to perform, or is it RMA time?

Many thanks,

James

 

 

 

 James Gill


 

 Consultant
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 Email: james.gill@triton.co.uk

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