Ownership of auto-mounted devices

[Jonathan Hepburn-2]

Greetings,

I use USB automounting with my Nokia, a cheap MP3 player, a couple of
USB sticks and, since today, a Seagate FreeAgent portable 2.5" hard
drive.

The problem is that, of them all, the FreeAgent is mounted with owner
and group both set to "root".

Now, I am dimly aware that automounting is a collaboration between
thunar-volman and hal. I have both of these installed. I do not have
gnome-device-manager (or whatever it's called) installed.

I have tried googling for an answer, but now my head aches and all I
have found is ways to fix devices not being mounted at all, which is
most emphatically not the problem here.

I have no /etc/fstab entries corresponding to any automounted devices.

The only thing I can think of that may have an impact is that the
FreeAgent uses NTSF, not a FAT variant.

Could someone please point me in approximately the right direction, if
not just tell me the solution? Where is the ownership of removable
devices decided?

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[Tino Keitel-6]

On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 16:35:51 +1000, Jonathan Hepburn wrote:

[...]

> Could someone please point me in approximately the right direction, if
> not just tell me the solution? Where is the ownership of removable
> devices decided?

I think to fix this, a few more defails are required. How exactly is
the HD mounted?  Through in-kernel ntfs or with fuse and ntfs3g? Could
you post the output of the mount command after you plugged in the HD?

Regards,
Tino
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[Jonathan Hepburn-2]

Never mind, I fixed it.

I had already installed ntfs-3g and restarted hal, but I noticed that
there were ntfs utils I didn't have installed so, just to be safe,
installed them, which seems to have fixed the problem.

I think I may file a bug report with Debian about possible
dependencies/suggestions.

Slainte,
J

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Tino Keitel<tino.keitel+xfce@...> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 16:35:51 +1000, Jonathan Hepburn wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Could someone please point me in approximately the right direction, if
>> not just tell me the solution? Where is the ownership of removable
>> devices decided?
>
> I think to fix this, a few more defails are required. How exactly is
> the HD mounted?  Through in-kernel ntfs or with fuse and ntfs3g? Could
> you post the output of the mount command after you plugged in the HD?
>
> Regards,
> Tino
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[Yves-Alexis Perez-2]

On mer, 2009-08-05 at 15:38 +1000, Jonathan Hepburn wrote:
> I had already installed ntfs-3g and restarted hal, but I noticed that
> there were ntfs utils I didn't have installed so, just to be safe,
> installed them, which seems to have fixed the problem.
>
> I think I may file a bug report with Debian about possible
> dependencies/suggestions.

You'll have hard time finding the correct package for that. There's no
way Thunar, exo or whatever in Xfce stack would depends, recommends or
even suggest ntfs utils (or, for that matter, any filesystem utils). And
I don't think, imho, hal or mount should do that either.

Basically, tools are here for basic support of most common filesystems
(ext*, vfat), and for weirder options (yes, like ntfs), you should take
care of that.

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[Jonathan Hepburn-2]

I meant the fact that the ntfs-3g package required extra software in
order to work as advertised, not that a linux file browser didn't
mention a Windows requirement.

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez<corsac@...> wrote:

> On mer, 2009-08-05 at 15:38 +1000, Jonathan Hepburn wrote:
>> I had already installed ntfs-3g and restarted hal, but I noticed that
>> there were ntfs utils I didn't have installed so, just to be safe,
>> installed them, which seems to have fixed the problem.
>>
>> I think I may file a bug report with Debian about possible
>> dependencies/suggestions.
>
> You'll have hard time finding the correct package for that. There's no
> way Thunar, exo or whatever in Xfce stack would depends, recommends or
> even suggest ntfs utils (or, for that matter, any filesystem utils). And
> I don't think, imho, hal or mount should do that either.
>
> Basically, tools are here for basic support of most common filesystems
> (ext*, vfat), and for weirder options (yes, like ntfs), you should take
> care of that.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Yves-Alexis
>
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