PDF Begin the begin.

[Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres]

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Hi David and Lindsay,

 

I made a page to illustrate, all are invited, please take a look and tell me if I'm wrong or you disagree. I will be happy if you disagree, please, don't worry about that. I will not be happy if I'm wrong but prefer to know and will appreciate your help.

 

http://www.civicom.eu/cuestore/pdf-behaviour.htm

 

Thanks,

javier

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I tried the links using a 2-week old Vista install on my laptop, plain vanilla but with all patches and including SP2 (I had to rebuild it recently and thought it would be a good test environment). Other than unexpected behaviour in 2.2.1 (open in a new window with IE 7), the only other undesired behaviour was having to accept F-Secure’s harmful website warnings (which seem to imply the host is on a warning list, and even if accepted, puts a “warning” icon in the browser toolbar), but presumably this is a server-side issue with security certificates.

 

Test Environment:

                MS Windows Vista, SP2

                Malware Protection - F-Secure (licensed to and provided by my ISP, branded “Shaw Secure”)

Adobe Acrobat Reader v8.0.0 (then updated to 8.1.3)

                - External Window Handler (view PDF files in web browser)

                MS Internet Explorer, v8.0.6001.18828

                - Add-on: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper (Toolbars and Extensions)

                Mozilla FireFox v3.5.3

                - Plugin: Adobe Acrobat 8.0.0.456

 

1. Using a Button

                1.1 Button and the same window (or tab). Create PDF (Button and the same window).

                                1.1.1 IE 7 – opens PDF in same window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning).

                                1.1.2 FireFox 3.5.3 – opens PDF in same window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

                1.2 Button and a new window (or tab). Create PDF (Button and a new window).

                                1.2.1 IE 7 – creates new IE window with PDF (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

                                1.2.2 FireFox 3.5.3 - creates new tab in same window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

 

2. Using a Form

                2.1 Button in a Form and the same window (or tab). Create PDF (Button and the same window).

                                2.1.1 IE 7 – opens PDF in same window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

                                2.1.2 FireFox 3.5.3 – opens PDF in same window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

                2.2 Button in a Form and a new window (or tab). Create PDF (Button and a new window).

                                2.2.1 IE 7 – opens new IE window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning). First window also opens PDF file (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

                                2.2.2 FireFox 3.5.3 - creates new tab in same window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

 

3. Using a Link

                3.1 Link and the same window (or tab). Link and the same window PDF.

                                3.1.1 IE 7 – opens PDF in same window (F-Secure warning)

                                3.1.2 FireFox 3.5.3 – opens PDF in same window (F-Secure warning)

                3.2 Link and a new window (or tab). Link and a new window PDF.

                                3.2.1 IE 7 – creates new IE window and displays PDF (no F-Secure warning)

                                3.2.2 FireFox 3.5.3 - opens PDF in new tab of same window (F-Secure warning)

 

I hope this is useful to someone,

Dale

 

From: AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres. [mailto:info@...]
Sent: November-01-09 3:42 AM
To: webERP developers list
Subject: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.

 

Hi David and Lindsay,

 

I made a page to illustrate, all are invited, please take a look and tell me if I'm wrong or you disagree. I will be happy if you disagree, please, don't worry about that. I will not be happy if I'm wrong but prefer to know and will appreciate your help.

 

http://www.civicom.eu/cuestore/pdf-behaviour.htm

 

Thanks,

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[Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres]

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Thanks a lot Dale, I really appreciate it and it's very useful to me.

 

I was writing you, will send it in a minute. For the test, You have been very precise what let me tell that I think that the F-Secure warning is just because civicom.eu is calling a php script in my home-office-lab domain, another domain, this is usally saw a bit suspicious, like an attempt to execute code without the user's permission. Civicom doesn't let me to execute php or alike.

 

I have to make you a question: Dou you have IE7 and IE8 both installed?

I understand that all went right except for the 2.2 with IE, (i.e., 2.2.1)

 

I'll try to replicate in two Vista64 Business with Reader9 and will come back tomorrow, now is Sunday night here.

 

Many thanks and warmest regards,

javier

 

 

----- Original Message -----

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To: web-erp-developers@...

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 6:49 PM

Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.

I tried the links using a 2-week old Vista install on my laptop, plain vanilla but with all patches and including SP2 (I had to rebuild it recently and thought it would be a good test environment). Other than unexpected behaviour in 2.2.1 (open in a new window with IE 7), the only other undesired behaviour was having to accept F-Secure’s harmful website warnings (which seem to imply the host is on a warning list, and even if accepted, puts a “warning” icon in the browser toolbar), but presumably this is a server-side issue with security certificates.

 

Test Environment:

                MS Windows Vista, SP2

                Malware Protection - F-Secure (licensed to and provided by my ISP, branded “Shaw Secure”)

Adobe Acrobat Reader v8.0.0 (then updated to 8.1.3)

                - External Window Handler (view PDF files in web browser)

                MS Internet Explorer, v8.0.6001.18828

                - Add-on: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper (Toolbars and Extensions)

                Mozilla FireFox v3.5.3

                - Plugin: Adobe Acrobat 8.0.0.456

 

1. Using a Button

                1.1 Button and the same window (or tab). Create PDF (Button and the same window).

                                1.1.1 IE 7 – opens PDF in same window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning).

                                1.1.2 FireFox 3.5.3 – opens PDF in same window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

                1.2 Button and a new window (or tab). Create PDF (Button and a new window).

                                1.2.1 IE 7 – creates new IE window with PDF (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

                                1.2.2 FireFox 3.5.3 - creates new tab in same window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

 

2. Using a Form

                2.1 Button in a Form and the same window (or tab). Create PDF (Button and the same window).

                                2.1.1 IE 7 – opens PDF in same window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

                                2.1.2 FireFox 3.5.3 – opens PDF in same window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

                2.2 Button in a Form and a new window (or tab). Create PDF (Button and a new window).

                                2.2.1 IE 7 – opens new IE window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning). First window also opens PDF file (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

                                2.2.2 FireFox 3.5.3 - creates new tab in same window (F-Secure “Harmful Website Blocked” warning)

 

3. Using a Link

                3.1 Link and the same window (or tab). Link and the same window PDF.

                                3.1.1 IE 7 – opens PDF in same window (F-Secure warning)

                                3.1.2 FireFox 3.5.3 – opens PDF in same window (F-Secure warning)

                3.2 Link and a new window (or tab). Link and a new window PDF.

                                3.2.1 IE 7 – creates new IE window and displays PDF (no F-Secure warning)

                                3.2.2 FireFox 3.5.3 - opens PDF in new tab of same window (F-Secure warning)

 

I hope this is useful to someone,

Dale

 

From: AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres. [mailto:info@...]
Sent: November-01-09 3:42 AM
To: webERP developers list
Subject: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.

 

Hi David and Lindsay,

 

I made a page to illustrate, all are invited, please take a look and tell me if I'm wrong or you disagree. I will be happy if you disagree, please, don't worry about that. I will not be happy if I'm wrong but prefer to know and will appreciate your help.

 

http://www.civicom.eu/cuestore/pdf-behaviour.htm

 

Thanks,

javier

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[Dale Scott]

Perhaps I have not been so precise.  :-(

1.  I have only IE8 installed (as per "test environment"). All subsequent references to IE7 should say IE8.

2.  All tests went right except for the 2.2 with IE (2.2.1), in which the PDF opened in both the same window and a new window.

3. F-Secure warnings may not be completely consistent. Most times I got a "website blocked" page with a link I had to click to get to the pdf (basically "ignore warning and continue"), but sometimes (mostly with Firefox), I did not get the warning page before the PDF opened, but still had a warning icon in the browser toolbar.

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[Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres]

Hi Dale,

1. Just a typo, I have a sense that catches typos, more than one hundred in
WebERP ;-) Not a matter of precision, precision is intact.

2. I'm doing with two different Vista64 Business (2007 and 2008) both
updated to the current 6.0 compilation 6002 SP2, IE8 and FF3 and Reader 9.1
and works right. I made two simple variants for the 2.2 and called 2.2.B

3. I believe that most secure software capture the action and handle the
object. IE is easy to handle through the API because is coded in the system
kernel (something very critizised) but FF I think is "Green Coded". This
could be the reason that F-Secure can put the link you mention in a IE page
with ease but fails to do it in FF. Also, could it be that F-Secure is a
software for Windows, i.e., 86% of users and doesn't take care of the
browser's war of Opera, Chrome, Safari, Maxthon and the FF-like Seamonkey
Suite, between others, having different implementations of the DOM. Anyway,
the warning makes sense, a cross-domain call to an executable execution is
something to be warned.

Please try to open the original page at

http://146.red-88-2-131.staticip.rima-tde.net/pdf-behaviour.htm

and we will see if the warning disappears and if any of the three 2.2 does
something different.

Thanks a lot Dale, I'm always concerned with compatibility and
interoperatibility,
javier


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From: "Dale Scott" <dalescott@...>
To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.


Perhaps I have not been so precise.  :-(

1.  I have only IE8 installed (as per "test environment"). All subsequent
references to IE7 should say IE8.

2.  All tests went right except for the 2.2 with IE (2.2.1), in which the
PDF opened in both the same window and a new window.

3. F-Secure warnings may not be completely consistent. Most times I got a
"website blocked" page with a link I had to click to get to the pdf
(basically "ignore warning and continue"), but sometimes (mostly with
Firefox), I did not get the warning page before the PDF opened, but still
had a warning icon in the browser toolbar.

Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry

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[Bogdan Stanciu]

Javier,


i am not sure you touched the subject already, but i would like to add
that depending on LOCAL setting (thus user) all the behaviours you
presented become one:-))

i use FF with acrobat reader 9, and everything goes in an open/save
window first. the difference would be that the open stores the pdf in a
temp folder, while save stores it where the user wants.


however, you do not have the possibility to get it downloaded as any
download, without being open. do you know why?


 thanks,

bogdan


AESE wrote:

> Hi Dale,
>
> 1. Just a typo, I have a sense that catches typos, more than one hundred in
> WebERP ;-) Not a matter of precision, precision is intact.
>
> 2. I'm doing with two different Vista64 Business (2007 and 2008) both
> updated to the current 6.0 compilation 6002 SP2, IE8 and FF3 and Reader 9.1
> and works right. I made two simple variants for the 2.2 and called 2.2.B
>
> 3. I believe that most secure software capture the action and handle the
> object. IE is easy to handle through the API because is coded in the system
> kernel (something very critizised) but FF I think is "Green Coded". This
> could be the reason that F-Secure can put the link you mention in a IE page
> with ease but fails to do it in FF. Also, could it be that F-Secure is a
> software for Windows, i.e., 86% of users and doesn't take care of the
> browser's war of Opera, Chrome, Safari, Maxthon and the FF-like Seamonkey
> Suite, between others, having different implementations of the DOM. Anyway,
> the warning makes sense, a cross-domain call to an executable execution is
> something to be warned.
>
> Please try to open the original page at
>
> http://146.red-88-2-131.staticip.rima-tde.net/pdf-behaviour.htm
>
> and we will see if the warning disappears and if any of the three 2.2 does
> something different.
>
> Thanks a lot Dale, I'm always concerned with compatibility and
> interoperatibility,
> javier
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale Scott" <dalescott@...>
> To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>
>
> Perhaps I have not been so precise.  :-(
>
> 1.  I have only IE8 installed (as per "test environment"). All subsequent
> references to IE7 should say IE8.
>
> 2.  All tests went right except for the 2.2 with IE (2.2.1), in which the
> PDF opened in both the same window and a new window.
>
> 3. F-Secure warnings may not be completely consistent. Most times I got a
> "website blocked" page with a link I had to click to get to the pdf
> (basically "ignore warning and continue"), but sometimes (mostly with
> Firefox), I did not get the warning page before the PDF opened, but still
> had a warning icon in the browser toolbar.
>
> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres."
>  <info@...>
> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:45:58
> To: webERP Developers<web-erp-developers@...>
> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>
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[Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres]

Hi Bogdan,

Yes it was touched and I felt not being understood, I got no feedback to my
original post, it was skipped by the following post that caused this
¿discussion?, that's the reason of this page, for all of us to understand
the same. If you didn't receive the messages, then you can follow the
discussion on the sourceforge archive. This page is just what I said in my
post carried from words to facts.

Precisely the misunderstanding was when I mentioned the Local setting. It
was understood as "placing the responsibility at user's side" what will
never be my intention because I don't want to have to deal with client
computers

I know where temp files are stored and where the online not saved editions
can be found but you forgot to tell what O.S. are you using. The subjects
here are two: 1) to avoid the back button (second option of each section).
To avoid the back button a new frame is needed, let's say a new window or
browser instance, a new tab, a frameset, an iframe or, as is your case, a
dialog window. 2) to not loose the sender window's content. You will see it
more clear when you try several WebERP pdf (both problems are related to
WebERP). There are a lot of pdf, different kinds and different developers
who made them, then, before to begin to change the pdf scripts just because
they are many and four kinds, it will be good to know better what rules are
we going to apply.

I have the possibility to force a download just because the method used
offers that choice to the developer. But I don't offer in the page because
it limits user's choices. The page tells that all examples are served
"Inline", let me explain it more precisely.

The method offers 4 options:
1. "Inline", to be opened in the same browser window, plugin must be
installed or pdf downloaded.
2. "Download", forces a pdf file download.
3. "File", saves to a local file.
4. "String", returns the document as a string.

I serve the pdfs using option#1=Inline and could do it using
option#2=Download, what will force a download. Forcing a download will limit
user's freedom but using Inline gives flexibility to the user, since he/she
can choose among to download or launch the standalone or use the plugin (if
the right permissions to use resources and the privileges to execute actions
are applied). Now it's up to you to set the LOCAL settings as you like,
whilst you don't loose the sender page content and don't need the browser's
back button. For LOCAL settings I mean O.S., Browser, Reader, Plugin, and
configuration, this latter means that you can install the plugin and
deactivate/activate at the moment you want.

Am I right?

Thanks to you,
javier


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From: "Bogdan Stanciu" <bogdanovidiu.stanciu@...>

Javier,
i am not sure you touched the subject already,

but i would like to add
that depending on LOCAL setting (thus user) all the behaviours you
presented become one:-))

i use FF with acrobat reader 9, and everything goes in an open/save
window first. the difference would be that the open stores the pdf in a
temp folder, while save stores it where the user wants.

however, you do not have the possibility to get it downloaded as any
download, without being open. do you know why?

 thanks,

bogdan


AESE wrote:

> Hi Dale,
>
> 1. Just a typo, I have a sense that catches typos, more than one hundred
> in
> WebERP ;-) Not a matter of precision, precision is intact.
>
> 2. I'm doing with two different Vista64 Business (2007 and 2008) both
> updated to the current 6.0 compilation 6002 SP2, IE8 and FF3 and Reader
> 9.1
> and works right. I made two simple variants for the 2.2 and called 2.2.B
>
> 3. I believe that most secure software capture the action and handle the
> object. IE is easy to handle through the API because is coded in the
> system
> kernel (something very critizised) but FF I think is "Green Coded". This
> could be the reason that F-Secure can put the link you mention in a IE
> page
> with ease but fails to do it in FF. Also, could it be that F-Secure is a
> software for Windows, i.e., 86% of users and doesn't take care of the
> browser's war of Opera, Chrome, Safari, Maxthon and the FF-like Seamonkey
> Suite, between others, having different implementations of the DOM.
> Anyway,
> the warning makes sense, a cross-domain call to an executable execution is
> something to be warned.
>
> Please try to open the original page at
>
> http://146.red-88-2-131.staticip.rima-tde.net/pdf-behaviour.htm
>
> and we will see if the warning disappears and if any of the three 2.2 does
> something different.
>
> Thanks a lot Dale, I'm always concerned with compatibility and
> interoperatibility,
> javier
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale Scott" <dalescott@...>
> To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>
>
> Perhaps I have not been so precise.  :-(
>
> 1.  I have only IE8 installed (as per "test environment"). All subsequent
> references to IE7 should say IE8.
>
> 2.  All tests went right except for the 2.2 with IE (2.2.1), in which the
> PDF opened in both the same window and a new window.
>
> 3. F-Secure warnings may not be completely consistent. Most times I got a
> "website blocked" page with a link I had to click to get to the pdf
> (basically "ignore warning and continue"), but sometimes (mostly with
> Firefox), I did not get the warning page before the PDF opened, but still
> had a warning icon in the browser toolbar.
>
> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres."
>  <info@...>
> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:45:58
> To: webERP Developers<web-erp-developers@...>
> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
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[Bogdan Stanciu]

hi there,


yes, i guess you are absolutely right. i would like to underline what
you said, that is essential that the pdfs don't open in the same window.
it breaks the flow of the website/application.


what is the diff 2-3 (dwd - file)?

i personally prefer a download over "inline" so i don't need to save
everytime if i don't want to look in the temp floder.

but it is a matter of taste, isn't it :-)


PS sorry, i still run XP.:-))

bogdan

AESE wrote:

> Hi Bogdan,
>
> Yes it was touched and I felt not being understood, I got no feedback to my
> original post, it was skipped by the following post that caused this
> ¿discussion?, that's the reason of this page, for all of us to understand
> the same. If you didn't receive the messages, then you can follow the
> discussion on the sourceforge archive. This page is just what I said in my
> post carried from words to facts.
>
> Precisely the misunderstanding was when I mentioned the Local setting. It
> was understood as "placing the responsibility at user's side" what will
> never be my intention because I don't want to have to deal with client
> computers
>
> I know where temp files are stored and where the online not saved editions
> can be found but you forgot to tell what O.S. are you using. The subjects
> here are two: 1) to avoid the back button (second option of each section).
> To avoid the back button a new frame is needed, let's say a new window or
> browser instance, a new tab, a frameset, an iframe or, as is your case, a
> dialog window. 2) to not loose the sender window's content. You will see it
> more clear when you try several WebERP pdf (both problems are related to
> WebERP). There are a lot of pdf, different kinds and different developers
> who made them, then, before to begin to change the pdf scripts just because
> they are many and four kinds, it will be good to know better what rules are
> we going to apply.
>
> I have the possibility to force a download just because the method used
> offers that choice to the developer. But I don't offer in the page because
> it limits user's choices. The page tells that all examples are served
> "Inline", let me explain it more precisely.
>
> The method offers 4 options:
> 1. "Inline", to be opened in the same browser window, plugin must be
> installed or pdf downloaded.
> 2. "Download", forces a pdf file download.
> 3. "File", saves to a local file.
> 4. "String", returns the document as a string.
>
> I serve the pdfs using option#1=Inline and could do it using
> option#2=Download, what will force a download. Forcing a download will limit
> user's freedom but using Inline gives flexibility to the user, since he/she
> can choose among to download or launch the standalone or use the plugin (if
> the right permissions to use resources and the privileges to execute actions
> are applied). Now it's up to you to set the LOCAL settings as you like,
> whilst you don't loose the sender page content and don't need the browser's
> back button. For LOCAL settings I mean O.S., Browser, Reader, Plugin, and
> configuration, this latter means that you can install the plugin and
> deactivate/activate at the moment you want.
>
> Am I right?
>
> Thanks to you,
> javier
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bogdan Stanciu" <bogdanovidiu.stanciu@...>
>
> Javier,
> i am not sure you touched the subject already,
>
> but i would like to add
> that depending on LOCAL setting (thus user) all the behaviours you
> presented become one:-))
>
> i use FF with acrobat reader 9, and everything goes in an open/save
> window first. the difference would be that the open stores the pdf in a
> temp folder, while save stores it where the user wants.
>
> however, you do not have the possibility to get it downloaded as any
> download, without being open. do you know why?
>
>  thanks,
>
> bogdan
>
>
> AESE wrote:
>
>  
>> Hi Dale,
>>
>> 1. Just a typo, I have a sense that catches typos, more than one hundred
>> in
>> WebERP ;-) Not a matter of precision, precision is intact.
>>
>> 2. I'm doing with two different Vista64 Business (2007 and 2008) both
>> updated to the current 6.0 compilation 6002 SP2, IE8 and FF3 and Reader
>> 9.1
>> and works right. I made two simple variants for the 2.2 and called 2.2.B
>>
>> 3. I believe that most secure software capture the action and handle the
>> object. IE is easy to handle through the API because is coded in the
>> system
>> kernel (something very critizised) but FF I think is "Green Coded". This
>> could be the reason that F-Secure can put the link you mention in a IE
>> page
>> with ease but fails to do it in FF. Also, could it be that F-Secure is a
>> software for Windows, i.e., 86% of users and doesn't take care of the
>> browser's war of Opera, Chrome, Safari, Maxthon and the FF-like Seamonkey
>> Suite, between others, having different implementations of the DOM.
>> Anyway,
>> the warning makes sense, a cross-domain call to an executable execution is
>> something to be warned.
>>
>> Please try to open the original page at
>>
>> http://146.red-88-2-131.staticip.rima-tde.net/pdf-behaviour.htm
>>
>> and we will see if the warning disappears and if any of the three 2.2 does
>> something different.
>>
>> Thanks a lot Dale, I'm always concerned with compatibility and
>> interoperatibility,
>> javier
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dale Scott" <dalescott@...>
>> To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps I have not been so precise.  :-(
>>
>> 1.  I have only IE8 installed (as per "test environment"). All subsequent
>> references to IE7 should say IE8.
>>
>> 2.  All tests went right except for the 2.2 with IE (2.2.1), in which the
>> PDF opened in both the same window and a new window.
>>
>> 3. F-Secure warnings may not be completely consistent. Most times I got a
>> "website blocked" page with a link I had to click to get to the pdf
>> (basically "ignore warning and continue"), but sometimes (mostly with
>> Firefox), I did not get the warning page before the PDF opened, but still
>> had a warning icon in the browser toolbar.
>>
>> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres."
>>  <info@...>
>> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:45:58
>> To: webERP Developers<web-erp-developers@...>
>> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>>
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[Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres]

Hi Bogdan,

I must be missing something, don't you have the behaviour you want already?
regards,
javier


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bogdan Stanciu" <bogdanovidiu.stanciu@...>
To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.


hi there,


yes, i guess you are absolutely right. i would like to underline what
you said, that is essential that the pdfs don't open in the same window.
it breaks the flow of the website/application.


what is the diff 2-3 (dwd - file)?

i personally prefer a download over "inline" so i don't need to save
everytime if i don't want to look in the temp floder.

but it is a matter of taste, isn't it :-)


PS sorry, i still run XP.:-))

bogdan

AESE wrote:

> Hi Bogdan,
>
> Yes it was touched and I felt not being understood, I got no feedback to
> my
> original post, it was skipped by the following post that caused this
> ¿discussion?, that's the reason of this page, for all of us to understand
> the same. If you didn't receive the messages, then you can follow the
> discussion on the sourceforge archive. This page is just what I said in my
> post carried from words to facts.
>
> Precisely the misunderstanding was when I mentioned the Local setting. It
> was understood as "placing the responsibility at user's side" what will
> never be my intention because I don't want to have to deal with client
> computers
>
> I know where temp files are stored and where the online not saved editions
> can be found but you forgot to tell what O.S. are you using. The subjects
> here are two: 1) to avoid the back button (second option of each section).
> To avoid the back button a new frame is needed, let's say a new window or
> browser instance, a new tab, a frameset, an iframe or, as is your case, a
> dialog window. 2) to not loose the sender window's content. You will see
> it
> more clear when you try several WebERP pdf (both problems are related to
> WebERP). There are a lot of pdf, different kinds and different developers
> who made them, then, before to begin to change the pdf scripts just
> because
> they are many and four kinds, it will be good to know better what rules
> are
> we going to apply.
>
> I have the possibility to force a download just because the method used
> offers that choice to the developer. But I don't offer in the page because
> it limits user's choices. The page tells that all examples are served
> "Inline", let me explain it more precisely.
>
> The method offers 4 options:
> 1. "Inline", to be opened in the same browser window, plugin must be
> installed or pdf downloaded.
> 2. "Download", forces a pdf file download.
> 3. "File", saves to a local file.
> 4. "String", returns the document as a string.
>
> I serve the pdfs using option#1=Inline and could do it using
> option#2=Download, what will force a download. Forcing a download will
> limit
> user's freedom but using Inline gives flexibility to the user, since
> he/she
> can choose among to download or launch the standalone or use the plugin
> (if
> the right permissions to use resources and the privileges to execute
> actions
> are applied). Now it's up to you to set the LOCAL settings as you like,
> whilst you don't loose the sender page content and don't need the
> browser's
> back button. For LOCAL settings I mean O.S., Browser, Reader, Plugin, and
> configuration, this latter means that you can install the plugin and
> deactivate/activate at the moment you want.
>
> Am I right?
>
> Thanks to you,
> javier
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bogdan Stanciu" <bogdanovidiu.stanciu@...>
>
> Javier,
> i am not sure you touched the subject already,
>
> but i would like to add
> that depending on LOCAL setting (thus user) all the behaviours you
> presented become one:-))
>
> i use FF with acrobat reader 9, and everything goes in an open/save
> window first. the difference would be that the open stores the pdf in a
> temp folder, while save stores it where the user wants.
>
> however, you do not have the possibility to get it downloaded as any
> download, without being open. do you know why?
>
>  thanks,
>
> bogdan
>
>
> AESE wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Dale,
>>
>> 1. Just a typo, I have a sense that catches typos, more than one hundred
>> in
>> WebERP ;-) Not a matter of precision, precision is intact.
>>
>> 2. I'm doing with two different Vista64 Business (2007 and 2008) both
>> updated to the current 6.0 compilation 6002 SP2, IE8 and FF3 and Reader
>> 9.1
>> and works right. I made two simple variants for the 2.2 and called 2.2.B
>>
>> 3. I believe that most secure software capture the action and handle the
>> object. IE is easy to handle through the API because is coded in the
>> system
>> kernel (something very critizised) but FF I think is "Green Coded". This
>> could be the reason that F-Secure can put the link you mention in a IE
>> page
>> with ease but fails to do it in FF. Also, could it be that F-Secure is a
>> software for Windows, i.e., 86% of users and doesn't take care of the
>> browser's war of Opera, Chrome, Safari, Maxthon and the FF-like Seamonkey
>> Suite, between others, having different implementations of the DOM.
>> Anyway,
>> the warning makes sense, a cross-domain call to an executable execution
>> is
>> something to be warned.
>>
>> Please try to open the original page at
>>
>> http://146.red-88-2-131.staticip.rima-tde.net/pdf-behaviour.htm
>>
>> and we will see if the warning disappears and if any of the three 2.2
>> does
>> something different.
>>
>> Thanks a lot Dale, I'm always concerned with compatibility and
>> interoperatibility,
>> javier
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dale Scott" <dalescott@...>
>> To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps I have not been so precise.  :-(
>>
>> 1.  I have only IE8 installed (as per "test environment"). All subsequent
>> references to IE7 should say IE8.
>>
>> 2.  All tests went right except for the 2.2 with IE (2.2.1), in which the
>> PDF opened in both the same window and a new window.
>>
>> 3. F-Secure warnings may not be completely consistent. Most times I got a
>> "website blocked" page with a link I had to click to get to the pdf
>> (basically "ignore warning and continue"), but sometimes (mostly with
>> Firefox), I did not get the warning page before the PDF opened, but still
>> had a warning icon in the browser toolbar.
>>
>> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres."
>>  <info@...>
>> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:45:58
>> To: webERP Developers<web-erp-developers@...>
>> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA
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[Bogdan Stanciu]

you do:-)


i was just UNDERLYING this fact, as a rule for developers, more
specifically web-erp devs :-)) there is nothing more annoying to me than
having to go back, because the pdf opened in the active window. this is
not a complaint, just a suggestion for the future, just in case someone
forgets it :-)


sorry for the misunderstanding.


AESE wrote:

> Hi Bogdan,
>
> I must be missing something, don't you have the behaviour you want already?
> regards,
> javier
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bogdan Stanciu" <bogdanovidiu.stanciu@...>
> To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>
>
> hi there,
>
>
> yes, i guess you are absolutely right. i would like to underline what
> you said, that is essential that the pdfs don't open in the same window.
> it breaks the flow of the website/application.
>
>
> what is the diff 2-3 (dwd - file)?
>
> i personally prefer a download over "inline" so i don't need to save
> everytime if i don't want to look in the temp floder.
>
> but it is a matter of taste, isn't it :-)
>
>
> PS sorry, i still run XP.:-))
>
> bogdan
>
> AESE wrote:
>
>  
>> Hi Bogdan,
>>
>> Yes it was touched and I felt not being understood, I got no feedback to
>> my
>> original post, it was skipped by the following post that caused this
>> ¿discussion?, that's the reason of this page, for all of us to understand
>> the same. If you didn't receive the messages, then you can follow the
>> discussion on the sourceforge archive. This page is just what I said in my
>> post carried from words to facts.
>>
>> Precisely the misunderstanding was when I mentioned the Local setting. It
>> was understood as "placing the responsibility at user's side" what will
>> never be my intention because I don't want to have to deal with client
>> computers
>>
>> I know where temp files are stored and where the online not saved editions
>> can be found but you forgot to tell what O.S. are you using. The subjects
>> here are two: 1) to avoid the back button (second option of each section).
>> To avoid the back button a new frame is needed, let's say a new window or
>> browser instance, a new tab, a frameset, an iframe or, as is your case, a
>> dialog window. 2) to not loose the sender window's content. You will see
>> it
>> more clear when you try several WebERP pdf (both problems are related to
>> WebERP). There are a lot of pdf, different kinds and different developers
>> who made them, then, before to begin to change the pdf scripts just
>> because
>> they are many and four kinds, it will be good to know better what rules
>> are
>> we going to apply.
>>
>> I have the possibility to force a download just because the method used
>> offers that choice to the developer. But I don't offer in the page because
>> it limits user's choices. The page tells that all examples are served
>> "Inline", let me explain it more precisely.
>>
>> The method offers 4 options:
>> 1. "Inline", to be opened in the same browser window, plugin must be
>> installed or pdf downloaded.
>> 2. "Download", forces a pdf file download.
>> 3. "File", saves to a local file.
>> 4. "String", returns the document as a string.
>>
>> I serve the pdfs using option#1=Inline and could do it using
>> option#2=Download, what will force a download. Forcing a download will
>> limit
>> user's freedom but using Inline gives flexibility to the user, since
>> he/she
>> can choose among to download or launch the standalone or use the plugin
>> (if
>> the right permissions to use resources and the privileges to execute
>> actions
>> are applied). Now it's up to you to set the LOCAL settings as you like,
>> whilst you don't loose the sender page content and don't need the
>> browser's
>> back button. For LOCAL settings I mean O.S., Browser, Reader, Plugin, and
>> configuration, this latter means that you can install the plugin and
>> deactivate/activate at the moment you want.
>>
>> Am I right?
>>
>> Thanks to you,
>> javier
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bogdan Stanciu" <bogdanovidiu.stanciu@...>
>>
>> Javier,
>> i am not sure you touched the subject already,
>>
>> but i would like to add
>> that depending on LOCAL setting (thus user) all the behaviours you
>> presented become one:-))
>>
>> i use FF with acrobat reader 9, and everything goes in an open/save
>> window first. the difference would be that the open stores the pdf in a
>> temp folder, while save stores it where the user wants.
>>
>> however, you do not have the possibility to get it downloaded as any
>> download, without being open. do you know why?
>>
>>  thanks,
>>
>> bogdan
>>
>>
>> AESE wrote:
>>
>>
>>    
>>> Hi Dale,
>>>
>>> 1. Just a typo, I have a sense that catches typos, more than one hundred
>>> in
>>> WebERP ;-) Not a matter of precision, precision is intact.
>>>
>>> 2. I'm doing with two different Vista64 Business (2007 and 2008) both
>>> updated to the current 6.0 compilation 6002 SP2, IE8 and FF3 and Reader
>>> 9.1
>>> and works right. I made two simple variants for the 2.2 and called 2.2.B
>>>
>>> 3. I believe that most secure software capture the action and handle the
>>> object. IE is easy to handle through the API because is coded in the
>>> system
>>> kernel (something very critizised) but FF I think is "Green Coded". This
>>> could be the reason that F-Secure can put the link you mention in a IE
>>> page
>>> with ease but fails to do it in FF. Also, could it be that F-Secure is a
>>> software for Windows, i.e., 86% of users and doesn't take care of the
>>> browser's war of Opera, Chrome, Safari, Maxthon and the FF-like Seamonkey
>>> Suite, between others, having different implementations of the DOM.
>>> Anyway,
>>> the warning makes sense, a cross-domain call to an executable execution
>>> is
>>> something to be warned.
>>>
>>> Please try to open the original page at
>>>
>>> http://146.red-88-2-131.staticip.rima-tde.net/pdf-behaviour.htm
>>>
>>> and we will see if the warning disappears and if any of the three 2.2
>>> does
>>> something different.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot Dale, I'm always concerned with compatibility and
>>> interoperatibility,
>>> javier
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dale Scott" <dalescott@...>
>>> To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps I have not been so precise.  :-(
>>>
>>> 1.  I have only IE8 installed (as per "test environment"). All subsequent
>>> references to IE7 should say IE8.
>>>
>>> 2.  All tests went right except for the 2.2 with IE (2.2.1), in which the
>>> PDF opened in both the same window and a new window.
>>>
>>> 3. F-Secure warnings may not be completely consistent. Most times I got a
>>> "website blocked" page with a link I had to click to get to the pdf
>>> (basically "ignore warning and continue"), but sometimes (mostly with
>>> Firefox), I did not get the warning page before the PDF opened, but still
>>> had a warning icon in the browser toolbar.
>>>
>>> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
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>>> From: "AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres."
>>>  <info@...>
>>> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:45:58
>>> To: webERP Developers<web-erp-developers@...>
>>> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
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Hi Bogdan,

The problems with the back button and the "another windows" are serious when
it comes to WebERP. It's not clear when the back button gives an "expired
page" what needs a refresh and resent what re-does a transaction as an
another new transaction. Neither is clear why when some pdfs do open in a
new page then, the main WebERP sender page turns blank. You will see it when
using WebERP. For the user is annoying but even more important is to not
make unintended transactions. The whole subject should be fixed when dealing
with the good quantity of pdf scripts. By now, we have to review all of them
and change most of them to open in a new window. The problem is that I have
tried to make a list of pdf scripts without success. You may take a look at
the Trac Main Page.

In other words, the discussion is not centered/focussed in user's comfort
but, how to tell, well you know.

Not need to sorry, my english is bad (and what is worse is that sometimes
appears to be right, i.e., I take the right words to say something different
I want to) and I make an effort to tell and read things. I assume it's
always my fault when I am missunderstood. I'm learning.

thanks,
javier


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bogdan Stanciu" <bogdanovidiu.stanciu@...>
To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.


you do:-)


i was just UNDERLYING this fact, as a rule for developers, more
specifically web-erp devs :-)) there is nothing more annoying to me than
having to go back, because the pdf opened in the active window. this is
not a complaint, just a suggestion for the future, just in case someone
forgets it :-)


sorry for the misunderstanding.


AESE wrote:

> Hi Bogdan,
>
> I must be missing something, don't you have the behaviour you want
> already?
> regards,
> javier
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bogdan Stanciu" <bogdanovidiu.stanciu@...>
> To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>
>
> hi there,
>
>
> yes, i guess you are absolutely right. i would like to underline what
> you said, that is essential that the pdfs don't open in the same window.
> it breaks the flow of the website/application.
>
>
> what is the diff 2-3 (dwd - file)?
>
> i personally prefer a download over "inline" so i don't need to save
> everytime if i don't want to look in the temp floder.
>
> but it is a matter of taste, isn't it :-)
>
>
> PS sorry, i still run XP.:-))
>
> bogdan
>
> AESE wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Bogdan,
>>
>> Yes it was touched and I felt not being understood, I got no feedback to
>> my
>> original post, it was skipped by the following post that caused this
>> ¿discussion?, that's the reason of this page, for all of us to understand
>> the same. If you didn't receive the messages, then you can follow the
>> discussion on the sourceforge archive. This page is just what I said in
>> my
>> post carried from words to facts.
>>
>> Precisely the misunderstanding was when I mentioned the Local setting. It
>> was understood as "placing the responsibility at user's side" what will
>> never be my intention because I don't want to have to deal with client
>> computers
>>
>> I know where temp files are stored and where the online not saved
>> editions
>> can be found but you forgot to tell what O.S. are you using. The subjects
>> here are two: 1) to avoid the back button (second option of each
>> section).
>> To avoid the back button a new frame is needed, let's say a new window or
>> browser instance, a new tab, a frameset, an iframe or, as is your case, a
>> dialog window. 2) to not loose the sender window's content. You will see
>> it
>> more clear when you try several WebERP pdf (both problems are related to
>> WebERP). There are a lot of pdf, different kinds and different developers
>> who made them, then, before to begin to change the pdf scripts just
>> because
>> they are many and four kinds, it will be good to know better what rules
>> are
>> we going to apply.
>>
>> I have the possibility to force a download just because the method used
>> offers that choice to the developer. But I don't offer in the page
>> because
>> it limits user's choices. The page tells that all examples are served
>> "Inline", let me explain it more precisely.
>>
>> The method offers 4 options:
>> 1. "Inline", to be opened in the same browser window, plugin must be
>> installed or pdf downloaded.
>> 2. "Download", forces a pdf file download.
>> 3. "File", saves to a local file.
>> 4. "String", returns the document as a string.
>>
>> I serve the pdfs using option#1=Inline and could do it using
>> option#2=Download, what will force a download. Forcing a download will
>> limit
>> user's freedom but using Inline gives flexibility to the user, since
>> he/she
>> can choose among to download or launch the standalone or use the plugin
>> (if
>> the right permissions to use resources and the privileges to execute
>> actions
>> are applied). Now it's up to you to set the LOCAL settings as you like,
>> whilst you don't loose the sender page content and don't need the
>> browser's
>> back button. For LOCAL settings I mean O.S., Browser, Reader, Plugin, and
>> configuration, this latter means that you can install the plugin and
>> deactivate/activate at the moment you want.
>>
>> Am I right?
>>
>> Thanks to you,
>> javier
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bogdan Stanciu" <bogdanovidiu.stanciu@...>
>>
>> Javier,
>> i am not sure you touched the subject already,
>>
>> but i would like to add
>> that depending on LOCAL setting (thus user) all the behaviours you
>> presented become one:-))
>>
>> i use FF with acrobat reader 9, and everything goes in an open/save
>> window first. the difference would be that the open stores the pdf in a
>> temp folder, while save stores it where the user wants.
>>
>> however, you do not have the possibility to get it downloaded as any
>> download, without being open. do you know why?
>>
>>  thanks,
>>
>> bogdan
>>
>>
>> AESE wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Dale,
>>>
>>> 1. Just a typo, I have a sense that catches typos, more than one hundred
>>> in
>>> WebERP ;-) Not a matter of precision, precision is intact.
>>>
>>> 2. I'm doing with two different Vista64 Business (2007 and 2008) both
>>> updated to the current 6.0 compilation 6002 SP2, IE8 and FF3 and Reader
>>> 9.1
>>> and works right. I made two simple variants for the 2.2 and called 2.2.B
>>>
>>> 3. I believe that most secure software capture the action and handle the
>>> object. IE is easy to handle through the API because is coded in the
>>> system
>>> kernel (something very critizised) but FF I think is "Green Coded". This
>>> could be the reason that F-Secure can put the link you mention in a IE
>>> page
>>> with ease but fails to do it in FF. Also, could it be that F-Secure is a
>>> software for Windows, i.e., 86% of users and doesn't take care of the
>>> browser's war of Opera, Chrome, Safari, Maxthon and the FF-like
>>> Seamonkey
>>> Suite, between others, having different implementations of the DOM.
>>> Anyway,
>>> the warning makes sense, a cross-domain call to an executable execution
>>> is
>>> something to be warned.
>>>
>>> Please try to open the original page at
>>>
>>> http://146.red-88-2-131.staticip.rima-tde.net/pdf-behaviour.htm
>>>
>>> and we will see if the warning disappears and if any of the three 2.2
>>> does
>>> something different.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot Dale, I'm always concerned with compatibility and
>>> interoperatibility,
>>> javier
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dale Scott" <dalescott@...>
>>> To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps I have not been so precise.  :-(
>>>
>>> 1.  I have only IE8 installed (as per "test environment"). All
>>> subsequent
>>> references to IE7 should say IE8.
>>>
>>> 2.  All tests went right except for the 2.2 with IE (2.2.1), in which
>>> the
>>> PDF opened in both the same window and a new window.
>>>
>>> 3. F-Secure warnings may not be completely consistent. Most times I got
>>> a
>>> "website blocked" page with a link I had to click to get to the pdf
>>> (basically "ignore warning and continue"), but sometimes (mostly with
>>> Firefox), I did not get the warning page before the PDF opened, but
>>> still
>>> had a warning icon in the browser toolbar.
>>>
>>> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres."
>>>  <info@...>
>>> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:45:58
>>> To: webERP Developers<web-erp-developers@...>
>>> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
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Here are test results you requested Javier. The behaviour with F-Secure
seemed perhaps not 100% consistent, so these results as what _mostly_
happens. I hope this helps you. This exercise has highlighted compatibility
issues I hadn't considered before. Before I mostly thought so what if the
title is a little bit bigger, or the layout a little different.

I am curious about browser choice in general for WebERP users. Are there a
couple high-level reasons why WebERP users use (or need to use) different
browsers (which requires effort on the part of WebERP for support)?


http://146.red-88-2-131.staticip.rima-tde.net/pdf-behaviour.htm
- F-Secure warning had to be accepted in both IE8 and Firefox to access
site. After accepting, both IE8 and Firefox allowed access to site but
warned was harmful (at least eventually, it's possible that IE8 allowed
access to the site without F-Secure warning the first time or two).
 
1. Using a Button
1.1 Button and the same window (or tab)
1.1.1 IE8 - ok (no F-Secure warning)
1.1.2 Firefox - ok (no F-Secure warning)

1.2 Button and a new window (or tab)
1.2.1 IE8 - ok (F-Secure warning)
1.2.2 Firefox - ok (no F-Secure warning)

2. Using a Form
2.1 Using a Form and the same window (or tab)
2.1.1 IE8 - ok (F-Secure warning)
2.1.2 Firefox - ok (F-Secure warning)

2.2.a Using a Form (input submit post) and a new window (or tab)
2.2.a.1 IE8 - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window (both
windows have F-Secure warnings).
2.2.a.2 Firefox - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window
(both windows have F-Secure warnings). PDF seemed 1 time out of 10 to not
open in old window.

2.2.b Using a Form (input submit get) and a new window (or tab)
2.2.b.1 IE8 - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window (both
windows have F-Secure warnings).
2.2.b.2 Firefox - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window
(both windows have F-Secure warnings). PDF seemed 1 time out of 10 to not
open in old window. Also sometimes F-Secure warning had to be accepted twice
(perhaps warning triggered twice?)

2.2.c Using a Form (button submit post) and a new window (or tab)
2.2.c.1 IE8 - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window (both
windows have F-Secure warnings).
2.2.c.2 Firefox - ok. PDF opens in new window F-Secure warning. Oh no, there
goes the PDF opening in the old window too (and the F-Secure warning). It's
almost like when I have to accept the warning twice in the new window, the
old window gets an F-Secure warning also. Perhaps there is some interaction
between the browser tabs (well, sometimes)

2.2.d Using a Form (button submit get) and a new window (or tab)
2.2.d.1 IE8 - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window (both
windows have F-Secure warnings).
2.2.d.2 Firefox ok. PDF opens in new window F-Secure warning (F-Secure
warning had to be accepted twice but old window was still ok)

3. Using an Anchor (a Link)
3.1 Link and the same window (or tab)
3.1.1 IE8 - ok (no F-Secure warning)
3.1.2 Firefox3 - ok (no F-Secure warning)

3.2 Link and a new window (or tab)
3.2.1 IE8 - ok (F-Secure warning)
3.2.2 Firefox -ok (F-Secure warning)

-----Original Message-----
From: AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres. [mailto:info@...]
Sent: November-02-09 1:40 AM
To: dalescott@...; webERP Developers
Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.

Hi Dale,

1. Just a typo, I have a sense that catches typos, more than one hundred in
WebERP ;-) Not a matter of precision, precision is intact.

2. I'm doing with two different Vista64 Business (2007 and 2008) both
updated to the current 6.0 compilation 6002 SP2, IE8 and FF3 and Reader 9.1
and works right. I made two simple variants for the 2.2 and called 2.2.B

3. I believe that most secure software capture the action and handle the
object. IE is easy to handle through the API because is coded in the system
kernel (something very critizised) but FF I think is "Green Coded". This
could be the reason that F-Secure can put the link you mention in a IE page
with ease but fails to do it in FF. Also, could it be that F-Secure is a
software for Windows, i.e., 86% of users and doesn't take care of the
browser's war of Opera, Chrome, Safari, Maxthon and the FF-like Seamonkey
Suite, between others, having different implementations of the DOM. Anyway,
the warning makes sense, a cross-domain call to an executable execution is
something to be warned.

Please try to open the original page at

http://146.red-88-2-131.staticip.rima-tde.net/pdf-behaviour.htm

and we will see if the warning disappears and if any of the three 2.2 does
something different.

Thanks a lot Dale, I'm always concerned with compatibility and
interoperatibility,
javier


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Scott" <dalescott@...>
To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.


Perhaps I have not been so precise.  :-(

1.  I have only IE8 installed (as per "test environment"). All subsequent
references to IE7 should say IE8.

2.  All tests went right except for the 2.2 with IE (2.2.1), in which the
PDF opened in both the same window and a new window.

3. F-Secure warnings may not be completely consistent. Most times I got a
"website blocked" page with a link I had to click to get to the pdf
(basically "ignore warning and continue"), but sometimes (mostly with
Firefox), I did not get the warning page before the PDF opened, but still
had a warning icon in the browser toolbar.

Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry

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 <info@...>
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:45:58
To: webERP Developers<web-erp-developers@...>
Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.

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[Dale Scott]

Wow I sound like a troll! I was really just wondering whether it's because all users are on Linux, or because users are indivials with broad range of preferences.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Scott <dalescott@...>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:00:15
To: 'AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres.'<info@...>; 'webERP Developers'<web-erp-developers@...>
Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.

Here are test results you requested Javier. The behaviour with F-Secure
seemed perhaps not 100% consistent, so these results as what_mostly_
happens. I hope this helps you. This exercise has highlighted compatibility
issues I hadn't considered before. Before I mostly thought so what if the
title is a little bit bigger, or the layout a little different.

I am curious about browser choice in general for WebERP users. Are there a
couple high-level reasons why WebERP users use (or need to use) different
browsers (which requires effort on the part of WebERP for support)?


http://146.red-88-2-131.staticip.rima-tde.net/pdf-behaviour.htm
- F-Secure warning had to be accepted in both IE8 and Firefox to access
site. After accepting, both IE8 and Firefox allowed access to site but
warned was harmful (at least eventually, it's possible that IE8 allowed
access to the site without F-Secure warning the first time or two).
 
1. Using a Button
1.1 Button and the same window (or tab)
1.1.1 IE8 - ok (no F-Secure warning)
1.1.2 Firefox - ok (no F-Secure warning)

1.2 Button and a new window (or tab)
1.2.1 IE8 - ok (F-Secure warning)
1.2.2 Firefox - ok (no F-Secure warning)

2. Using a Form
2.1 Using a Form and the same window (or tab)
2.1.1 IE8 - ok (F-Secure warning)
2.1.2 Firefox - ok (F-Secure warning)

2.2.a Using a Form (input submit post) and a new window (or tab)
2.2.a.1 IE8 - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window (both
windows have F-Secure warnings).
2.2.a.2 Firefox - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window
(both windows have F-Secure warnings). PDF seemed 1 time out of 10 to not
open in old window.

2.2.b Using a Form (input submit get) and a new window (or tab)
2.2.b.1 IE8 - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window (both
windows have F-Secure warnings).
2.2.b.2 Firefox - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window
(both windows have F-Secure warnings). PDF seemed 1 time out of 10 to not
open in old window. Also sometimes F-Secure warning had to be accepted twice
(perhaps warning triggered twice?)

2.2.c Using a Form (button submit post) and a new window (or tab)
2.2.c.1 IE8 - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window (both
windows have F-Secure warnings).
2.2.c.2 Firefox - ok. PDF opens in new window F-Secure warning. Oh no, there
goes the PDF opening in the old window too (and the F-Secure warning). It's
almost like when I have to accept the warning twice in the new window, the
old window gets an F-Secure warning also. Perhaps there is some interaction
between the browser tabs (well, sometimes)

2.2.d Using a Form (button submit get) and a new window (or tab)
2.2.d.1 IE8 - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window (both
windows have F-Secure warnings).
2.2.d.2 Firefox ok. PDF opens in new window F-Secure warning (F-Secure
warning had to be accepted twice but old window was still ok)

3. Using an Anchor (a Link)
3.1 Link and the same window (or tab)
3.1.1 IE8 - ok (no F-Secure warning)
3.1.2 Firefox3 - ok (no F-Secure warning)

3.2 Link and a new window (or tab)
3.2.1 IE8 - ok (F-Secure warning)
3.2.2 Firefox -ok (F-Secure warning)

-----Original Message-----
From: AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres. [mailto:info@...]
Sent: November-02-09 1:40 AM
To: dalescott@...; webERP Developers
Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.

Hi Dale,

1. Just a typo, I have a sense that catches typos, more than one hundred in
WebERP ;-) Not a matter of precision, precision is intact.

2. I'm doing with two different Vista64 Business (2007 and 2008) both
updated to the current 6.0 compilation 6002 SP2, IE8 and FF3 and Reader 9.1
and works right. I made two simple variants for the 2.2 and called 2.2.B

3. I believe that most secure software capture the action and handle the
object. IE is easy to handle through the API because is coded in the system
kernel (something very critizised) but FF I think is "Green Coded". This
could be the reason that F-Secure can put the link you mention in a IE page
with ease but fails to do it in FF. Also, could it be that F-Secure is a
software for Windows, i.e., 86% of users and doesn't take care of the
browser's war of Opera, Chrome, Safari, Maxthon and the FF-like Seamonkey
Suite, between others, having different implementations of the DOM. Anyway,
the warning makes sense, a cross-domain call to an executable execution is
something to be warned.

Please try to open the original page at

http://146.red-88-2-131.staticip.rima-tde.net/pdf-behaviour.htm

and we will see if the warning disappears and if any of the three 2.2 does
something different.

Thanks a lot Dale, I'm always concerned with compatibility and
interoperatibility,
javier


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Scott" <dalescott@...>
To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.


Perhaps I have not been so precise.  :-(

1.  I have only IE8 installed (as per "test environment"). All subsequent
references to IE7 should say IE8.

2.  All tests went right except for the 2.2 with IE (2.2.1), in which the
PDF opened in both the same window and a new window.

3. F-Secure warnings may not be completely consistent. Most times I got a
"website blocked" page with a link I had to click to get to the pdf
(basically "ignore warning and continue"), but sometimes (mostly with
Firefox), I did not get the warning page before the PDF opened, but still
had a warning icon in the browser toolbar.

Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres."
 <info@...>
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:45:58
To: webERP Developers<web-erp-developers@...>
Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.

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[Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres]

Hi Dale,
Good job, thank you very much. I hope to begin to review WebERP pdfs soon.
It seems to not be much difference between FF3 and IE8. The goal as prefered
option is to open pdf in a new window and have the main WebERP GUI intact
avoiding the back button. Also, to have all WebERP pdfs behave the same.

The most important part of this testing it's that I wouldn't realize this
behaviour of pdf being opened in both windows making the user to loose
control of WebERP and demanding him to use the back button.

Regards,
javier


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Scott" <dalescott@...>
To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>; "'AESE,
S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres.'" <info@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.

> Wow I sound like a troll! I was really just wondering whether it's because
> all users are on Linux, or because users are indivials with broad range of
> preferences.
>
> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dale Scott <dalescott@...>
> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:00:15
> To: 'AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres.'<info@...>; 'webERP
> Developers'<web-erp-developers@...>
> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>
> Here are test results you requested Javier. The behaviour with F-Secure
> seemed perhaps not 100% consistent, so these results as what_mostly_
> happens. I hope this helps you. This exercise has highlighted
> compatibility
> issues I hadn't considered before. Before I mostly thought so what if the
> title is a little bit bigger, or the layout a little different.
>
> I am curious about browser choice in general for WebERP users. Are there a
> couple high-level reasons why WebERP users use (or need to use) different
> browsers (which requires effort on the part of WebERP for support)?
>
>
> http://146.red-88-2-131.staticip.rima-tde.net/pdf-behaviour.htm
> - F-Secure warning had to be accepted in both IE8 and Firefox to access
> site. After accepting, both IE8 and Firefox allowed access to site but
> warned was harmful (at least eventually, it's possible that IE8 allowed
> access to the site without F-Secure warning the first time or two).
>
> 1. Using a Button
> 1.1 Button and the same window (or tab)
> 1.1.1 IE8 - ok (no F-Secure warning)
> 1.1.2 Firefox - ok (no F-Secure warning)
>
> 1.2 Button and a new window (or tab)
> 1.2.1 IE8 - ok (F-Secure warning)
> 1.2.2 Firefox - ok (no F-Secure warning)
>
> 2. Using a Form
> 2.1 Using a Form and the same window (or tab)
> 2.1.1 IE8 - ok (F-Secure warning)
> 2.1.2 Firefox - ok (F-Secure warning)
>
> 2.2.a Using a Form (input submit post) and a new window (or tab)
> 2.2.a.1 IE8 - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window (both
> windows have F-Secure warnings).
> 2.2.a.2 Firefox - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window
> (both windows have F-Secure warnings). PDF seemed 1 time out of 10 to not
> open in old window.
>
> 2.2.b Using a Form (input submit get) and a new window (or tab)
> 2.2.b.1 IE8 - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window (both
> windows have F-Secure warnings).
> 2.2.b.2 Firefox - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window
> (both windows have F-Secure warnings). PDF seemed 1 time out of 10 to not
> open in old window. Also sometimes F-Secure warning had to be accepted
> twice
> (perhaps warning triggered twice?)
>
> 2.2.c Using a Form (button submit post) and a new window (or tab)
> 2.2.c.1 IE8 - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window (both
> windows have F-Secure warnings).
> 2.2.c.2 Firefox - ok. PDF opens in new window F-Secure warning. Oh no,
> there
> goes the PDF opening in the old window too (and the F-Secure warning).
> It's
> almost like when I have to accept the warning twice in the new window, the
> old window gets an F-Secure warning also. Perhaps there is some
> interaction
> between the browser tabs (well, sometimes)
>
> 2.2.d Using a Form (button submit get) and a new window (or tab)
> 2.2.d.1 IE8 - not ok. PDF opens in new window but also in old window (both
> windows have F-Secure warnings).
> 2.2.d.2 Firefox ok. PDF opens in new window F-Secure warning (F-Secure
> warning had to be accepted twice but old window was still ok)
>
> 3. Using an Anchor (a Link)
> 3.1 Link and the same window (or tab)
> 3.1.1 IE8 - ok (no F-Secure warning)
> 3.1.2 Firefox3 - ok (no F-Secure warning)
>
> 3.2 Link and a new window (or tab)
> 3.2.1 IE8 - ok (F-Secure warning)
> 3.2.2 Firefox -ok (F-Secure warning)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres. [mailto:info@...]
> Sent: November-02-09 1:40 AM
> To: dalescott@...; webERP Developers
> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>
> Hi Dale,
>
> 1. Just a typo, I have a sense that catches typos, more than one hundred
> in
> WebERP ;-) Not a matter of precision, precision is intact.
>
> 2. I'm doing with two different Vista64 Business (2007 and 2008) both
> updated to the current 6.0 compilation 6002 SP2, IE8 and FF3 and Reader
> 9.1
> and works right. I made two simple variants for the 2.2 and called 2.2.B
>
> 3. I believe that most secure software capture the action and handle the
> object. IE is easy to handle through the API because is coded in the
> system
> kernel (something very critizised) but FF I think is "Green Coded". This
> could be the reason that F-Secure can put the link you mention in a IE
> page
> with ease but fails to do it in FF. Also, could it be that F-Secure is a
> software for Windows, i.e., 86% of users and doesn't take care of the
> browser's war of Opera, Chrome, Safari, Maxthon and the FF-like Seamonkey
> Suite, between others, having different implementations of the DOM.
> Anyway,
> the warning makes sense, a cross-domain call to an executable execution is
> something to be warned.
>
> Please try to open the original page at
>
> http://146.red-88-2-131.staticip.rima-tde.net/pdf-behaviour.htm
>
> and we will see if the warning disappears and if any of the three 2.2 does
> something different.
>
> Thanks a lot Dale, I'm always concerned with compatibility and
> interoperatibility,
> javier
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale Scott" <dalescott@...>
> To: "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...>
> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>
>
> Perhaps I have not been so precise.  :-(
>
> 1.  I have only IE8 installed (as per "test environment"). All subsequent
> references to IE7 should say IE8.
>
> 2.  All tests went right except for the 2.2 with IE (2.2.1), in which the
> PDF opened in both the same window and a new window.
>
> 3. F-Secure warnings may not be completely consistent. Most times I got a
> "website blocked" page with a link I had to click to get to the pdf
> (basically "ignore warning and continue"), but sometimes (mostly with
> Firefox), I did not get the warning page before the PDF opened, but still
> had a warning icon in the browser toolbar.
>
> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres."
> <info@...>
> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:45:58
> To: webERP Developers<web-erp-developers@...>
> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] PDF Begin the begin.
>
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