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Re: Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

2009-11-11T12:04:09Z

I would have enjoyed Art School a whole lot more if it *did* involve
some designing for aesthetics.

I think you'd be hard-pressed to be more "edgy" than the postmodern
artists that got shoved at us as icons to aspire to, eg Judy Chicago
and her menstrual art or Piero Manzoni who canned his own poo and
called it a work of art in 1961. Shocking the audience and messing
with their heads was what we were encouraged to aim for. Someone at my
school planned to make a sculpture with his own frozen semen. By the
end of the semester he still hadn't collected enough and so he
abandoned the project, lol. A pity, it would have been the perfect
example of the "art wank" we were being taught to do.

If you think art and games are different and mutually exclusive
things, then where do projects like this fit:

http://anitafontaine.com/index/index.php?/project/cutexdoom/

I especially loved her Ghostgarden project:
http://anitafontaine.com/index/index.php?/project/ghostgarden/

Anita gets OzCo funding on a regular basis - do you think her work has
no thought for interactivity or the like?

I think that's the sort of thing they want to see - a complete
disregard for the boundaries between games/art/film/multimedia, where
the concept is key and the media used is whatever best works to
execute the intention.

2009/11/12 Eric Spain <parthon@...>:

> My definitions: A game is a set of created challenges to be overcome,
> resulting in victory, or defeat. Art is designing for aesthetics. :)
>
> I think the idea of the fund is just to help merge technical art with
> more traditional art, probably with no thought for interactivity or
> the like.
>
> It will be interesting keeping an eye on it, but I think us Gamers and
> Game Devs will be too 'edgy' for them. ;)
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Re: Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

2009-11-11T11:15:49Z

My definitions: A game is a set of created challenges to be overcome,
resulting in victory, or defeat. Art is designing for aesthetics. :)

I think the idea of the fund is just to help merge technical art with
more traditional art, probably with no thought for interactivity or
the like.

It will be interesting keeping an eye on it, but I think us Gamers and
Game Devs will be too 'edgy' for them. ;)

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Re: Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

2009-11-11T09:54:32Z

I think "art" is considered to be a developed skill, or something produced as a result of that skill... so you can make an art out of playing (by getting better at playing), or have the game you produce become your art ;)

Mmm, semantics!

From: Kat Black <retrokat@...>
To: pigmi@...
Sent: Thu, 12 November, 2009 1:49:01 AM
Subject: Re: [PIGMI] Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

I like that one, Ellen :) Could also apply to art though ;)

2009/11/12 Ellen Jurik <sunlightsylph@...>:

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>
> ________________________________
> From: Kat Black <kat@...>
> To: pigmi@...
> Sent: Thu, 12 November, 2009 1:20:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [PIGMI] Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital
> Cultural Fund
>
> and the definition of a game is... ?
>
> kat =^..^=
>
> 2009/11/12 Joel Blackwell <joel@...>:
>> Games can be art, but the intention of a game is to be a game, not simply
>> a
>> melding of art and technology. If that's all a game becomes, it gets
>> slapped
>> with the age-old tag of multimedia.
>>
>> -Joel
>>
>>
>> Kat Black wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with Chris - the lines of what is considered "art" are so
>>> blurred these days and if the differentiation between
>>> film/art/games/entertainment disappears even more, I'll be all the
>>> happier for it. I think this callout was a step in teh right direction
>>> for sure.
>>>
>>> best. kat =^..^=
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/11/11 Joel Blackwell <joel@...>:
>>>>
>>>> Games are a fairly different beast to the arts. You can use technology
>>>> as
>>>> a
>>>> medium for creating art (interactive or otherwise), but that doesn't
>>>> necessarily make it a game.
>>>>
>>>> So no, I personally wouldn't say they're all about that.
>>>>
>>>> -Joel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris McCormick wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Whoa, this is great. Very forward thinking - I am really enjoying the
>>>>> increasing blurring of the lines between technology and the arts, which
>>>>> is
>>>>> actually what video games are all about, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 05:16:24PM +0800, Kat Black wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thought some of you might be interested in these opportunities :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best, kat =^..^=
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: <inter-arts@...>
>>>>>> Date: 2009/11/10
>>>>>> Subject: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural
>>>>>> Fund
>>>>>> To: kat@...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geeks in Residence
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geeks. Hosts. Sharing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **WHAT IS IT?**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Geek in Residence pilot program connects ‘geeks’ (by which we
>>>>>> mean technically confident artists and creatively confident
>>>>>> technicians) with arts organisations through a temporary subsidised
>>>>>> secondment scheme.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to enable
>>>>>> digital artists and technicians to share their skills and experiences
>>>>>> with arts workers. Geeks will be able to share their passion for
>>>>>> solving unknown technological problems in creative situations, and
>>>>>> arts workers will feel better equipped to work in digital spaces. Both
>>>>>> will ultimately initiate ‘digital innovation’.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For more information see Geeks in Residence
>>>>>> <http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/34>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Digital Cultural Fund
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New crowds. New artwork. Happening live.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **WHAT IS IT?**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Digital Culture Fund is a pilot initiative for people who have
>>>>>> been working creatively with digital technologies for some time. They
>>>>>> might be experienced artists already within the Australia Council's
>>>>>> community, already supported by one of our grants or divisions. But we
>>>>>> also want to open up to a new breed of practitioner, the digital
>>>>>> native who might not typically consider themselves artists or
>>>>>> ordinarily approach the Australia Council.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to support the
>>>>>> creation of innovative digital artwork which might happen physically
>>>>>> in front of the crowd or be experienced through a technological
>>>>>> platform. Either way, we want it to happen live, having been created
>>>>>> as a live collaboration, or to be experienced as a live event
>>>>>> connecting the maker(s) and crowd(s).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For more information see Digital Cultural Fund
>>>>>> <http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/35>
>>>>>>
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Re: Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

2009-11-11T09:49:01Z

I like that one, Ellen :) Could also apply to art though ;)

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Re: Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

2009-11-11T09:47:07Z

...play with rules?

From: Kat Black <kat@...>
To: pigmi@...
Sent: Thu, 12 November, 2009 1:20:38 AM
Subject: Re: [PIGMI] Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

and the definition of a game is... ?

kat =^..^=

2009/11/12 Joel Blackwell <joel@...>:

> Games can be art, but the intention of a game is to be a game, not simply a
> melding of art and technology. If that's all a game becomes, it gets slapped
> with the age-old tag of multimedia.
>
> -Joel
>
>
> Kat Black wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Chris - the lines of what is considered "art" are so
>> blurred these days and if the differentiation between
>> film/art/games/entertainment disappears even more, I'll be all the
>> happier for it. I think this callout was a step in teh right direction
>> for sure.
>>
>> best. kat =^..^=
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/11/11 Joel Blackwell <joel@...>:
>>>
>>> Games are a fairly different beast to the arts. You can use technology as
>>> a
>>> medium for creating art (interactive or otherwise), but that doesn't
>>> necessarily make it a game.
>>>
>>> So no, I personally wouldn't say they're all about that.
>>>
>>> -Joel
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris McCormick wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Whoa, this is great. Very forward thinking - I am really enjoying the
>>>> increasing blurring of the lines between technology and the arts, which
>>>> is
>>>> actually what video games are all about, right?
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 05:16:24PM +0800, Kat Black wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thought some of you might be interested in these opportunities :)
>>>>>
>>>>> best, kat =^..^=
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: <inter-arts@...>
>>>>> Date: 2009/11/10
>>>>> Subject: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund
>>>>> To: kat@...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Geeks in Residence
>>>>>
>>>>> Geeks. Hosts. Sharing.
>>>>>
>>>>> **WHAT IS IT?**
>>>>>
>>>>> The Geek in Residence pilot program connects ‘geeks’ (by which we
>>>>> mean technically confident artists and creatively confident
>>>>> technicians) with arts organisations through a temporary subsidised
>>>>> secondment scheme.
>>>>>
>>>>> The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to enable
>>>>> digital artists and technicians to share their skills and experiences
>>>>> with arts workers. Geeks will be able to share their passion for
>>>>> solving unknown technological problems in creative situations, and
>>>>> arts workers will feel better equipped to work in digital spaces. Both
>>>>> will ultimately initiate ‘digital innovation’.
>>>>>
>>>>> For more information see Geeks in Residence
>>>>> <http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/34>
>>>>>
>>>>> Digital Cultural Fund
>>>>>
>>>>> New crowds. New artwork. Happening live.
>>>>>
>>>>> **WHAT IS IT?**
>>>>>
>>>>> The Digital Culture Fund is a pilot initiative for people who have
>>>>> been working creatively with digital technologies for some time. They
>>>>> might be experienced artists already within the Australia Council's
>>>>> community, already supported by one of our grants or divisions. But we
>>>>> also want to open up to a new breed of practitioner, the digital
>>>>> native who might not typically consider themselves artists or
>>>>> ordinarily approach the Australia Council.
>>>>>
>>>>> The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to support the
>>>>> creation of innovative digital artwork which might happen physically
>>>>> in front of the crowd or be experienced through a technological
>>>>> platform. Either way, we want it to happen live, having been created
>>>>> as a live collaboration, or to be experienced as a live event
>>>>> connecting the maker(s) and crowd(s).
>>>>>
>>>>> For more information see Digital Cultural Fund
>>>>> <http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/35>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

2009-11-11T09:20:38Z

and the definition of a game is... ?

kat =^..^=

2009/11/12 Joel Blackwell <joel@...>:

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Re: Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

2009-11-11T08:32:34Z

Games can be art, but the intention of a game is to be a game, not
simply a melding of art and technology. If that's all a game becomes, it
gets slapped with the age-old tag of multimedia.

-Joel

Kat Black wrote:

> I agree with Chris - the lines of what is considered "art" are so
> blurred these days and if the differentiation between
> film/art/games/entertainment disappears even more, I'll be all the
> happier for it. I think this callout was a step in teh right direction
> for sure.
>
> best. kat =^..^=
>
>
>
> 2009/11/11 Joel Blackwell <joel@...>:
>> Games are a fairly different beast to the arts. You can use technology as a
>> medium for creating art (interactive or otherwise), but that doesn't
>> necessarily make it a game.
>>
>> So no, I personally wouldn't say they're all about that.
>>
>> -Joel
>>
>>
>> Chris McCormick wrote:
>>> Whoa, this is great. Very forward thinking - I am really enjoying the
>>> increasing blurring of the lines between technology and the arts, which is
>>> actually what video games are all about, right?
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 05:16:24PM +0800, Kat Black wrote:
>>>> Thought some of you might be interested in these opportunities :)
>>>>
>>>> best, kat =^..^=
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: <inter-arts@...>
>>>> Date: 2009/11/10
>>>> Subject: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund
>>>> To: kat@...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Geeks in Residence
>>>>
>>>> Geeks. Hosts. Sharing.
>>>>
>>>> **WHAT IS IT?**
>>>>
>>>> The Geek in Residence pilot program connects ‘geeks’ (by which we
>>>> mean technically confident artists and creatively confident
>>>> technicians) with arts organisations through a temporary subsidised
>>>> secondment scheme.
>>>>
>>>> The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to enable
>>>> digital artists and technicians to share their skills and experiences
>>>> with arts workers. Geeks will be able to share their passion for
>>>> solving unknown technological problems in creative situations, and
>>>> arts workers will feel better equipped to work in digital spaces. Both
>>>> will ultimately initiate ‘digital innovation’.
>>>>
>>>> For more information see Geeks in Residence
>>>> <http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/34>
>>>>
>>>> Digital Cultural Fund
>>>>
>>>> New crowds. New artwork. Happening live.
>>>>
>>>> **WHAT IS IT?**
>>>>
>>>> The Digital Culture Fund is a pilot initiative for people who have
>>>> been working creatively with digital technologies for some time. They
>>>> might be experienced artists already within the Australia Council's
>>>> community, already supported by one of our grants or divisions. But we
>>>> also want to open up to a new breed of practitioner, the digital
>>>> native who might not typically consider themselves artists or
>>>> ordinarily approach the Australia Council.
>>>>
>>>> The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to support the
>>>> creation of innovative digital artwork which might happen physically
>>>> in front of the crowd or be experienced through a technological
>>>> platform. Either way, we want it to happen live, having been created
>>>> as a live collaboration, or to be experienced as a live event
>>>> connecting the maker(s) and crowd(s).
>>>>
>>>> For more information see Digital Cultural Fund
>>>> <http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/35>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We hope you found this News Alert from the Inter-Arts Office of interest.
>>>>
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Re: Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

2009-11-11T07:27:49Z

I agree with Chris - the lines of what is considered "art" are so
blurred these days and if the differentiation between
film/art/games/entertainment disappears even more, I'll be all the
happier for it. I think this callout was a step in teh right direction
for sure.

best. kat =^..^=

2009/11/11 Joel Blackwell <joel@...>:

> Games are a fairly different beast to the arts. You can use technology as a
> medium for creating art (interactive or otherwise), but that doesn't
> necessarily make it a game.
>
> So no, I personally wouldn't say they're all about that.
>
> -Joel
>
>
> Chris McCormick wrote:
>>
>> Whoa, this is great. Very forward thinking - I am really enjoying the
>> increasing blurring of the lines between technology and the arts, which is
>> actually what video games are all about, right?
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 05:16:24PM +0800, Kat Black wrote:
>>>
>>> Thought some of you might be interested in these opportunities :)
>>>
>>> best, kat =^..^=
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: <inter-arts@...>
>>> Date: 2009/11/10
>>> Subject: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund
>>> To: kat@...
>>>
>>>
>>> Geeks in Residence
>>>
>>> Geeks. Hosts. Sharing.
>>>
>>> **WHAT IS IT?**
>>>
>>> The Geek in Residence pilot program connects ‘geeks’ (by which we
>>> mean technically confident artists and creatively confident
>>> technicians) with arts organisations through a temporary subsidised
>>> secondment scheme.
>>>
>>> The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to enable
>>> digital artists and technicians to share their skills and experiences
>>> with arts workers. Geeks will be able to share their passion for
>>> solving unknown technological problems in creative situations, and
>>> arts workers will feel better equipped to work in digital spaces. Both
>>> will ultimately initiate ‘digital innovation’.
>>>
>>> For more information see Geeks in Residence
>>> <http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/34>
>>>
>>> Digital Cultural Fund
>>>
>>> New crowds. New artwork. Happening live.
>>>
>>> **WHAT IS IT?**
>>>
>>> The Digital Culture Fund is a pilot initiative for people who have
>>> been working creatively with digital technologies for some time. They
>>> might be experienced artists already within the Australia Council's
>>> community, already supported by one of our grants or divisions. But we
>>> also want to open up to a new breed of practitioner, the digital
>>> native who might not typically consider themselves artists or
>>> ordinarily approach the Australia Council.
>>>
>>> The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to support the
>>> creation of innovative digital artwork which might happen physically
>>> in front of the crowd or be experienced through a technological
>>> platform. Either way, we want it to happen live, having been created
>>> as a live collaboration, or to be experienced as a live event
>>> connecting the maker(s) and crowd(s).
>>>
>>> For more information see Digital Cultural Fund
>>> <http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/35>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

2009-11-11T05:42:57Z

Games are a fairly different beast to the arts. You can use technology
as a medium for creating art (interactive or otherwise), but that
doesn't necessarily make it a game.

So no, I personally wouldn't say they're all about that.

-Joel

Chris McCormick wrote:

> Whoa, this is great. Very forward thinking - I am really enjoying the
> increasing blurring of the lines between technology and the arts, which is
> actually what video games are all about, right?
>
> Chris.
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 05:16:24PM +0800, Kat Black wrote:
>> Thought some of you might be interested in these opportunities :)
>>
>> best, kat =^..^=
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: <inter-arts@...>
>> Date: 2009/11/10
>> Subject: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund
>> To: kat@...
>>
>>
>> Geeks in Residence
>>
>> Geeks. Hosts. Sharing.
>>
>> **WHAT IS IT?**
>>
>> The Geek in Residence pilot program connects ‘geeks’ (by which we
>> mean technically confident artists and creatively confident
>> technicians) with arts organisations through a temporary subsidised
>> secondment scheme.
>>
>> The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to enable
>> digital artists and technicians to share their skills and experiences
>> with arts workers. Geeks will be able to share their passion for
>> solving unknown technological problems in creative situations, and
>> arts workers will feel better equipped to work in digital spaces. Both
>> will ultimately initiate ‘digital innovation’.
>>
>> For more information see Geeks in Residence
>> <http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/34>
>>
>> Digital Cultural Fund
>>
>> New crowds. New artwork. Happening live.
>>
>> **WHAT IS IT?**
>>
>> The Digital Culture Fund is a pilot initiative for people who have
>> been working creatively with digital technologies for some time. They
>> might be experienced artists already within the Australia Council's
>> community, already supported by one of our grants or divisions. But we
>> also want to open up to a new breed of practitioner, the digital
>> native who might not typically consider themselves artists or
>> ordinarily approach the Australia Council.
>>
>> The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to support the
>> creation of innovative digital artwork which might happen physically
>> in front of the crowd or be experienced through a technological
>> platform. Either way, we want it to happen live, having been created
>> as a live collaboration, or to be experienced as a live event
>> connecting the maker(s) and crowd(s).
>>
>> For more information see Digital Cultural Fund
>> <http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/35>
>>
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Re: Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

2009-11-11T03:18:23Z

Whoa, this is great. Very forward thinking - I am really enjoying the
increasing blurring of the lines between technology and the arts, which is
actually what video games are all about, right?

Chris.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 05:16:24PM +0800, Kat Black wrote:

> Thought some of you might be interested in these opportunities :)
>
> best, kat =^..^=
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <inter-arts@...>
> Date: 2009/11/10
> Subject: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund
> To: kat@...
>
>
> Geeks in Residence
>
> Geeks. Hosts. Sharing.
>
> **WHAT IS IT?**
>
> The Geek in Residence pilot program connects ‘geeks’ (by which we
> mean technically confident artists and creatively confident
> technicians) with arts organisations through a temporary subsidised
> secondment scheme.
>
> The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to enable
> digital artists and technicians to share their skills and experiences
> with arts workers. Geeks will be able to share their passion for
> solving unknown technological problems in creative situations, and
> arts workers will feel better equipped to work in digital spaces. Both
> will ultimately initiate ‘digital innovation’.
>
> For more information see Geeks in Residence
> <http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/34>
>
> Digital Cultural Fund
>
> New crowds. New artwork. Happening live.
>
> **WHAT IS IT?**
>
> The Digital Culture Fund is a pilot initiative for people who have
> been working creatively with digital technologies for some time. They
> might be experienced artists already within the Australia Council's
> community, already supported by one of our grants or divisions. But we
> also want to open up to a new breed of practitioner, the digital
> native who might not typically consider themselves artists or
> ordinarily approach the Australia Council.
>
> The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to support the
> creation of innovative digital artwork which might happen physically
> in front of the crowd or be experienced through a technological
> platform. Either way, we want it to happen live, having been created
> as a live collaboration, or to be experienced as a live event
> connecting the maker(s) and crowd(s).
>
> For more information see Digital Cultural Fund
> <http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/35>
>
>
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Re: Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

2009-11-10T03:15:47Z

At least they're trying to connect. I've never seen an Arts-funding
spec before that said they're targeting people who don't consider
themselves to be artists :)

best, kat =^..^=

2009/11/10 Jon Hayward <jhayward@...>:

> Man, this is fantastic! Now geeks can join the ranks of the barely paid... whoops I
> mean artists.
>
> The Geek in Residence program is a fantastic idea, however they have approached this
> from the Arts funding angle. No great surprise, it is the Australia Council whom I
> have on good word can be a right pain to work with. Plus from the looks of this
> document it's a fair bit flighty and seems to have been written by someone who came
> in spouting web2.0 and social media.
>
> But this is a step in the right direction, I do hope some good comes out of it.
> Thanks for sharing Kat!
>
> On Tue Nov 10 17:16 , Kat Black <kat@...> sent:
>
>>Thought some of you might be interested in these opportunities :)
>>
>>best, kat =^..^=
>>
>>
>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>From: inter-arts@...>
>>Date: 2009/11/10
>>Subject: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund
>>To: kat@...
>>
>>
>>Geeks in Residence
>>
>>Geeks. Hosts. Sharing.
>>
>>**WHAT IS IT?**
>>
>>The Geek in Residence pilot program connects ‘geeks’ (by which we
>>mean technically confident artists and creatively confident
>>technicians) with arts organisations through a temporary subsidised
>>secondment scheme.
>>
>>The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to enable
>>digital artists and technicians to share their skills and experiences
>>with arts workers. Geeks will be able to share their passion for
>>solving unknown technological problems in creative situations, and
>>arts workers will feel better equipped to work in digital spaces. Both
>>will ultimately initiate ‘digital innovation’.
>>
>>For more information see Geeks in Residence
>>http://artsdigitalera.com/\?q=node/34>
>>
>> Digital Cultural Fund
>>
>>New crowds. New artwork. Happening live.
>>
>>**WHAT IS IT?**
>>
>>The Digital Culture Fund is a pilot initiative for people who have
>>been working creatively with digital technologies for some time. They
>>might be experienced artists already within the Australia Council's
>>community, already supported by one of our grants or divisions. But we
>>also want to open up to a new breed of practitioner, the digital
>>native who might not typically consider themselves artists or
>>ordinarily approach the Australia Council.
>>
>>The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to support the
>>creation of innovative digital artwork which might happen physically
>>in front of the crowd or be experienced through a technological
>>platform. Either way, we want it to happen live, having been created
>>as a live collaboration, or to be experienced as a live event
>>connecting the maker(s) and crowd(s).
>>
>>For more information see Digital Cultural Fund
>>http://artsdigitalera.com/\?q=node/35>
>>
>>
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Re: Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

2009-11-10T03:11:47Z

Man, this is fantastic! Now geeks can join the ranks of the barely paid... whoops I
mean artists.

The Geek in Residence program is a fantastic idea, however they have approached this
from the Arts funding angle. No great surprise, it is the Australia Council whom I
have on good word can be a right pain to work with. Plus from the looks of this
document it's a fair bit flighty and seems to have been written by someone who came
in spouting web2.0 and social media.

But this is a step in the right direction, I do hope some good comes out of it.
Thanks for sharing Kat!

On Tue Nov 10 17:16 , Kat Black <kat@...> sent:

>Thought some of you might be interested in these opportunities :)
>
>best, kat =^..^=
>
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: inter-arts@...>
>Date: 2009/11/10
>Subject: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund
>To: kat@...
>
>
>Geeks in Residence
>
>Geeks. Hosts. Sharing.
>
>**WHAT IS IT?**
>
>The Geek in Residence pilot program connects ‘geeks’ (by which we
>mean technically confident artists and creatively confident
>technicians) with arts organisations through a temporary subsidised
>secondment scheme.
>
>The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to enable
>digital artists and technicians to share their skills and experiences
>with arts workers. Geeks will be able to share their passion for
>solving unknown technological problems in creative situations, and
>arts workers will feel better equipped to work in digital spaces. Both
>will ultimately initiate ‘digital innovation’.
>
>For more information see Geeks in Residence
>http://artsdigitalera.com/\?q=node/34>
>
> Digital Cultural Fund
>
>New crowds. New artwork. Happening live.
>
>**WHAT IS IT?**
>
>The Digital Culture Fund is a pilot initiative for people who have
>been working creatively with digital technologies for some time. They
>might be experienced artists already within the Australia Council's
>community, already supported by one of our grants or divisions. But we
>also want to open up to a new breed of practitioner, the digital
>native who might not typically consider themselves artists or
>ordinarily approach the Australia Council.
>
>The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to support the
>creation of innovative digital artwork which might happen physically
>in front of the crowd or be experienced through a technological
>platform. Either way, we want it to happen live, having been created
>as a live collaboration, or to be experienced as a live event
>connecting the maker(s) and crowd(s).
>
>For more information see Digital Cultural Fund
>http://artsdigitalera.com/\?q=node/35>
>
>
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Fwd: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund

2009-11-10T01:16:24Z

Thought some of you might be interested in these opportunities :)

best, kat =^..^=

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <inter-arts@...>
Date: 2009/11/10
Subject: New Opportunities - Geeks in Residence & Digital Cultural Fund
To: kat@...

Geeks in Residence

Geeks. Hosts. Sharing.

**WHAT IS IT?**

The Geek in Residence pilot program connects ‘geeks’ (by which we
mean technically confident artists and creatively confident
technicians) with arts organisations through a temporary subsidised
secondment scheme.

The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to enable
digital artists and technicians to share their skills and experiences
with arts workers. Geeks will be able to share their passion for
solving unknown technological problems in creative situations, and
arts workers will feel better equipped to work in digital spaces. Both
will ultimately initiate ‘digital innovation’.

For more information see Geeks in Residence
<http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/34>

Digital Cultural Fund

New crowds. New artwork. Happening live.

**WHAT IS IT?**

The Digital Culture Fund is a pilot initiative for people who have
been working creatively with digital technologies for some time. They
might be experienced artists already within the Australia Council's
community, already supported by one of our grants or divisions. But we
also want to open up to a new breed of practitioner, the digital
native who might not typically consider themselves artists or
ordinarily approach the Australia Council.

The purpose of this fund is for the Australia Council to support the
creation of innovative digital artwork which might happen physically
in front of the crowd or be experienced through a technological
platform. Either way, we want it to happen live, having been created
as a live collaboration, or to be experienced as a live event
connecting the maker(s) and crowd(s).

For more information see Digital Cultural Fund
<http://artsdigitalera.com/?q=node/35>

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Studio space opportunities - eoi

2009-11-09T07:32:14Z

Hey all,

wanted to put this out to the PIGMI crew as I thought it may be a great opportunity for a game dev group to get going, or web, multimedia, etc.

Cheers

Brendan

EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST SOUGHT

Expressions of interest are sought from emerging professional creatives and designers to be a part of a newly developed creative hub/commercial studio space in Mount Lawley – available EARLY DECEMBER. Space available includes singular desk space (approximately four desks available) in addition to three fully lockable studios (available – ranging from 14.9 to 15.4 sqm). Studio space includes two communal bathrooms, one communal kitchen and tearoom as well as an open area perfect for gallery space or venue hire/art classes (The opportunities are endless!).

Costs as a rough estimate at this stage would range from $40 a week (for a desk) to $150 a week for a private lockable studio space (inclusive of naked ADSL and all utilities).

This studio space will provide the perfect opportunity for emerging creatives to take the plunge into catapulting their freelance work into the next level. It is envisaged that this hub would become an established, recognizable, fully branded and marketed collective of creative professionals working alongside each other.

Who are we?

FORKS OPEN DOORS: Brendan Ninness – Illustrator, Designer; Otilee – Art Director, Photographer, Designer, Stylist

LAUREN FOREMAN: Lauren Foreman – Arts Management consultant, Artist representation

Who are you?

We are looking for creative professionals and groups who are serious about making a living from their creative practice. Artists/Creatives from any field are welcome to express interest. Complementary fields this space may suit include; web designers/developers; fashion designers; graphic designers; animators and filmmakers; architects etc.

Please send your expressions of interest as soon as possible to; Brendan@... including a short description of what you do and a bit about yourself.

www.forksopendoors.com

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Re: Movembering

2009-11-08T16:53:23Z

So iParty 2.0 is really just going to look like a pR0n convention...

> I've created a group! I know that there are other Perth game developers
> growing mos, so why not register and join? :D
>
> Here is the auto-generated invitation from the Movember website.
>
> Hi,
>
> I am growing a moustache for Movember this year and am looking for
> recruits to join my team.
>
> Movember is about raising much needed funds and awareness for men’s
> health – specifically prostate cancer and depression in men. Important
> when you learn that close to 3,000 men die of prostate cancer each year
> in Australia and one in eight men will experience depression in their
> lifetime - many of whom don’t seek help.
>
> The more people I can get onboard, the more awareness and money will be
> raised and so I am asking you to join my team and either grow a
> moustache as a Mo Bro, or sign on as a Mo Sista and help out with
> raising funds.
>
> To join my Movember team go to http://au.movember.com/register/65824 and
> follow steps. Once registered you’ll be sent all the information you
> need to get donations and get growing as part of my Movember team.
>
> 2009 is Movember’s sixth consecutive year. If you are interested in
> learning more about the work that is being carried out as a result of
> Movember funds, check out the details at
> http://au.movemberfoundation.com/research-and-programs.
>
> Hope to welcome you to my Movember team shortly.
>
> Nick Lowe
>
> On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 15:37 +0800, Paul Turbett wrote:
>
>> I am, and I would.
>>
>> I think iParty could be very hairy :)
>>
>> L8r, Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Sent: Saturday, 7 November 2009 1:10 PM
>> To: pigmi
>> Subject: [PIGMI] Movembering
>>
>> Is anyone else Movembering?:
>>
>> http://au.movember.com/
>>
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>> PIGMI/IGDA/LMG/others inclusive) group?
>>
>> - Nick
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RE: Movembering

2009-11-08T05:03:38Z

I've created a group! I know that there are other Perth game developers
growing mos, so why not register and join? :D

Here is the auto-generated invitation from the Movember website.

Hi,

I am growing a moustache for Movember this year and am looking for
recruits to join my team.

Movember is about raising much needed funds and awareness for men’s
health – specifically prostate cancer and depression in men. Important
when you learn that close to 3,000 men die of prostate cancer each year
in Australia and one in eight men will experience depression in their
lifetime - many of whom don’t seek help.

The more people I can get onboard, the more awareness and money will be
raised and so I am asking you to join my team and either grow a
moustache as a Mo Bro, or sign on as a Mo Sista and help out with
raising funds.

To join my Movember team go to http://au.movember.com/register/65824 and
follow steps. Once registered you’ll be sent all the information you
need to get donations and get growing as part of my Movember team.

2009 is Movember’s sixth consecutive year. If you are interested in
learning more about the work that is being carried out as a result of
Movember funds, check out the details at
http://au.movemberfoundation.com/research-and-programs.

Hope to welcome you to my Movember team shortly.

Nick Lowe

On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 15:37 +0800, Paul Turbett wrote:

> I am, and I would.
>
> I think iParty could be very hairy :)
>
> L8r, Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Lowe [mailto:nick@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 7 November 2009 1:10 PM
> To: pigmi
> Subject: [PIGMI] Movembering
>
> Is anyone else Movembering?:
>
> http://au.movember.com/
>
> Interested in starting a "Perth Game Developers" (non-specific as to be
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>
> - Nick
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RE: UDK...free. (sort of)

2009-11-07T01:48:36Z

not to me! thats awesome news. cheers

Roh

From: sls@...
To: pigmi@...
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:38:16 +0800
Subject: [PIGMI] UDK...free. (sort of)

I'm sure this is old news to you by now...Unreal Engine 3, for free! http://www.udk.com/

Seems Unity's business model is making as much of a splash as there tools.

L8r, Paul

Head to the Daily Blob on Windows Live For more of what happens online

RE: Movembering

2009-11-06T23:37:47Z

I am, and I would.

I think iParty could be very hairy :)

L8r, Paul

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Sent: Saturday, 7 November 2009 1:10 PM
To: pigmi
Subject: [PIGMI] Movembering

Is anyone else Movembering?:

http://au.movember.com/

Interested in starting a "Perth Game Developers" (non-specific as to be
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Movembering

2009-11-06T21:09:43Z

Is anyone else Movembering?:

http://au.movember.com/

Interested in starting a "Perth Game Developers" (non-specific as to be
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Re: UDK...free. (sort of)

2009-11-05T17:55:32Z

It looks like this hasn't hit the GamersHell AU mirrors, so I've
arranged for the WAIA mirror to have a copy:

http://mirror.waia.asn.au/pub/games/UDKInstall-2009-11-BETA.exe

Will Dowling

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Re: UDK...free. (sort of)

2009-11-05T17:12:10Z

It's good for large volumes too. But, the argument around forums and
such is whether that cost can be justified when pretty much no
indie/team can use the udk to its fullest potential.

-Joel

Will Dowling wrote:

>> I'm sure this is old news to you by now...Unreal Engine 3, for free!
>> http://www.udk.com/
>
> I was just having a look at this when I saw your email. Check out their
> commercial license, which for a commercial grade engine isn't too shabby
> IMHO, but only if you're selling small volumes.
>
> http://www.udk.com/licensing.html
>
> Either way, this will definately be worth having a look at :)
>
>
> Will Dowling
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Re: UDK...free. (sort of)

2009-11-05T16:59:09Z

> I'm sure this is old news to you by now...Unreal Engine 3, for free!
> http://www.udk.com/

I was just having a look at this when I saw your email. Check out their
commercial license, which for a commercial grade engine isn't too shabby
IMHO, but only if you're selling small volumes.

http://www.udk.com/licensing.html

Either way, this will definately be worth having a look at :)

Will Dowling

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UDK...free. (sort of)

2009-11-05T15:38:16Z

I'm sure this is old news to you by now...Unreal Engine 3, for free! http://www.udk.com/

Seems Unity's business model is making as much of a splash as there tools.

L8r, Paul

Re: UWA Play Test 2009: Game Project Demonstrations

2009-11-02T18:55:27Z

The games on show were a quite impressive usage of the NeoAxis game engine and Blender to develop small 3D games.
Hopefully you will be at Let's Make Games and the IGDA Perth Chapter's end of year "iParty 2.0" so others may have a chance to see what you've accomplished.

2009/10/28 rd1 <rd1rd2@...>

This is an invitation to UWA Play Test 2009, where you can try out the game
prototypes built this semester by the project teams in CITS4242 Game Design
and Multimedia.

What: UWA Play Test 2009
When: Thursday 29th October, 3pm - 4pm
Where: Lab 2.03, UWA CS&SE

[ Lab 2.03 is on the second floor of the Computer Science building, see:
http://web.csse.uwa.edu.au/people/campus_map ]

This event is open to anyone with an interest in games - you'll be able to
see and play the game protoypes, as well as talk to the team members about
how they built them.

Students considering taking the GDM unit in future are particularly
encouraged to come along so that you can benefit from the experience of this
years groups.

So, take a short break from exam preparation/project marking/etc and come
and be impressed by how much the groups have achieved this semester.
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Re: UWA Play Test 2009: Game Project Demonstrations

2009-10-30T10:42:40Z

This was way out of my way yesterday, but is there any way to see these
game prototypes, aside from heading out to UWA?

-Joel

rd1 wrote:

> This is an invitation to UWA Play Test 2009, where you can try out the game
> prototypes built this semester by the project teams in CITS4242 Game Design
> and Multimedia.
>
> What: UWA Play Test 2009
> When: Thursday 29th October, 3pm - 4pm
> Where: Lab 2.03, UWA CS&SE
>
> [ Lab 2.03 is on the second floor of the Computer Science building, see:
> http://web.csse.uwa.edu.au/people/campus_map ]
>
> This event is open to anyone with an interest in games - you'll be able to
> see and play the game protoypes, as well as talk to the team members about
> how they built them.
>
> Students considering taking the GDM unit in future are particularly
> encouraged to come along so that you can benefit from the experience of this
> years groups.
>
> So, take a short break from exam preparation/project marking/etc and come
> and be impressed by how much the groups have achieved this semester.

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Re: Unity3D Indie is now free

2009-10-29T07:51:39Z

If available middleware solutions weren't so darned good at the moment
I'd go back and have a look at how Blender's game maker has developed.
Last time I used it I wanted to shoot myself. Hopefully that's changed
somewhat from the horrid logic block thing. Even with a ton of python
scripting it wasn't much fun.

-Joel

Chris McCormick wrote:

> Not for iPhone, but I just thought I'd throw this one out there:
>
> <http://blender-games.webs.com/>
> <http://blender-games.webs.com/apps/photos/>
>
> It's free, and it's also Free. :)
>
> Chris.
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 01:59:25PM +0900, Joel Blackwell wrote:
>> I'm not sure about that one, but regardless Shiva is still the cheapest
>> 3D tool for iPhone development. For the PC it's no slouch either, and
>> every upgrade until 2.0 is free. So, even though the Unity has a free
>> version, it's definitely still a solution worth keeping in mind.
>>
>> -Joel
>>
>>
>> Andy Hawkins wrote:
>>> I loooove ShiVa - I have heard that Unity makes bloated apps - ie
>>> impossible to make a build <10meg so not possible to download apps over
>>> 3g.
>>>
>>>
>>>> That's an interesting move, but I'm happy with Shiva, myself :)
>>>>
>>>> -Joel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jon Hayward wrote:
>>>>> o.0
>>>>>
>>>>> That's so not cool, oh well, time to bitch on the forums ^_^;
>>>>> Michael did set up a pretty epic method of handling Unity3d through
>>>>> SVN, it's a tad messy but it works for us. I guess we will keep on
>>>>> with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu Oct 29 10:54 , Nick Lowe <nick@...> sent:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately only in the Pro version... which is US$1500. :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems that a fair few people were irate over this. Especially people
>>>>>> who bought Unity3D Indie 2.5 expecting to have this feature when 2.6
>>>>>> comes out. Instead Unity3D Indie is discontinued (replaced by
>>>>>> "standard"
>>>>>> Unity 2.6) and external version control integration is only part of the
>>>>>> expensive Unity Pro line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess it comes down to: single-programmer developers can use
>>>>>> Unity for
>>>>>> free (yay!), but serious development teams still need to shell
>>>>>> out a lot
>>>>>> of money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Nick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 10:39 +0800, Jon Hayward wrote:
>>>>>>> More to the point, VS and SVN integration!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu Oct 29 8:45 , Nick Lowe nick@...> sent:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://unity3d.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Awesome!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Nick
>>>>>>>>
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Re: Unity3D Indie is now free

2009-10-29T07:29:01Z

Not for iPhone, but I just thought I'd throw this one out there:

<http://blender-games.webs.com/>
<http://blender-games.webs.com/apps/photos/>

It's free, and it's also Free. :)

Chris.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 01:59:25PM +0900, Joel Blackwell wrote:

> I'm not sure about that one, but regardless Shiva is still the cheapest
> 3D tool for iPhone development. For the PC it's no slouch either, and
> every upgrade until 2.0 is free. So, even though the Unity has a free
> version, it's definitely still a solution worth keeping in mind.
>
> -Joel
>
>
> Andy Hawkins wrote:
>> I loooove ShiVa - I have heard that Unity makes bloated apps - ie
>> impossible to make a build <10meg so not possible to download apps over
>> 3g.
>>
>>
>>> That's an interesting move, but I'm happy with Shiva, myself :)
>>>
>>> -Joel
>>>
>>>
>>> Jon Hayward wrote:
>>>> o.0
>>>>
>>>> That's so not cool, oh well, time to bitch on the forums ^_^;
>>>> Michael did set up a pretty epic method of handling Unity3d through
>>>> SVN, it's a tad messy but it works for us. I guess we will keep on
>>>> with that.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu Oct 29 10:54 , Nick Lowe <nick@...> sent:
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately only in the Pro version... which is US$1500. :(
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems that a fair few people were irate over this. Especially people
>>>>> who bought Unity3D Indie 2.5 expecting to have this feature when 2.6
>>>>> comes out. Instead Unity3D Indie is discontinued (replaced by
>>>>> "standard"
>>>>> Unity 2.6) and external version control integration is only part of the
>>>>> expensive Unity Pro line.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess it comes down to: single-programmer developers can use
>>>>> Unity for
>>>>> free (yay!), but serious development teams still need to shell
>>>>> out a lot
>>>>> of money.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Nick
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 10:39 +0800, Jon Hayward wrote:
>>>>>> More to the point, VS and SVN integration!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu Oct 29 8:45 , Nick Lowe nick@...> sent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://unity3d.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Awesome!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Nick
>>>>>>>
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Re: Hitboxes hit cinemas

2009-10-29T05:15:02Z

Ooh, I thought of some more.

You could have a split screen, where two versions of the same people react to different worlds.
Like maybe a mirror of sorts. The commands and controls are same, except they move
in opposite directions. So they jump, walk and interact simultaneously but the environments
they are in call for divided attention. It could be tied in with a briliant story I reckon.

Or you could have people coming out of the monitor/screen, and have a front-screen representation
as well as an on-screen representation.

Actually you don't really need it to be people, it could be browsers, alphabets, anything can
pop out of the screen to attack you if necessary.

But this mechanic kinda defeats the purpose of the representation you were looking I fear.

Nevermind, I shall not spam anymore.

Cheers,
D

-----Original Message-----
From: lyrad@...
To: pigmi@...
Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [PIGMI] Hitboxes hit cinemas

Heya Shanon,

Admittedly I didn't watch the video, but I saw the pic and referenced off what you said.
Here's a couple of ideas I thought of anyway.

One of which is possibly a spirit being that is somehow attached to but not bound by

a body. Say for some narrative reason (a demon signs a contract with a teenager,
a ghost wants to find a killer and abruptly disturbs a geek, an evil warlord tried to
revive his dead cat and made a mistake, or my great great grandfather possessed
me to teach me kung fu), two beings are stuck together.

The spirit may be able to walk through walls and stuff, and have access to hidden

knowledge, but can't venture too far off else he loses connection with the body.

And the body is needed to talk to normal people, use items and basically interact with things.

You can see how this can turn into a comedy very easily in the way the two
miscommunicate with each other, have differences in opinion or the access of a ghost's
perspective's changes the way conversation normally flows, or he could look like he's

talking to himself.

Or in a battle game with many abilities, you could have a special ability that could call the

soul of a person out of his body and either eat it up, voodoo it, or command it to your will.
Actually that just sounds like standard necromancy.. But for some reason I thought of another

abstract image of commanding an army of zombies to do the thriller.

Another easy to thing to do is say in a list of bad guys or villians, one of the cool villians could

be a shadow/puppet master, who fights you with a seemingly unkillable body.
But the real bad guy is actually the shadow that controls people, and in order to win the battle, the player has

to realise that you have to shoot the shadow and not the person.

Other things that use duplicate action are robotic control. The story could be about

man-robot synchronisation technologies and through registered motions combatants

can move giant mechs around. Like if I take one step, the distance is covered 10 times

by the mech. Likewise if I punch and kick the mech does that too, that's pretty

standard japanese stuff. You could be -inside- the robot like some power ranger thing,

or you could be controlling it from outside.

Maybe you could have a long chain of illusion clones, all doing the same thing but one slightly

slower than the other. Street Fighter has done this to make use of ultimate moves, but perhaps

this can be tied into a context? You could have an ability to splice time into separate dimensions, and

the depiction of displaced people is a way to represent the different times to interact with.
If you affect one, you affect all the rest in the future and it might be nice to see an immediate

reaction in time.

Of course, as you said, insight to psychology is a good representation as well. Maybe you have

the ability to see the truth behind people's words. Whenever you activate it, you get a spliced

image of the person saying what he or she really thinks. Some form of gadgetry would make

it more realistic. Or maybe you can see ghosts, and people come to you to stop all those

voices in their head. The only thing is, you see four heads.

Just some ideas,
think I spent too long on one mail.

Daryl

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From: Shanon Loughton <autobot@...>
To: pigmi@...
Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 12:22 am
Subject: [PIGMI] Hitboxes hit cinemas

I was watchin this show on SBS late fri or sat todo with indie cartoon
shorts. Anyone know the title? Anywayz it had some australian shorts
but some intriguing others.
One that struck me was Skhizein, a french 3D animated Sundance Film
festival short (http://festival.sundance.org/2009/film_events/films/skhizein)
which is briefly described on the site:

"After being struck by a 150-ton meteorite, Henry has to adapt to
living precisely 91 centimeters from himself."

And it reminded me of the movies made of Counter Strike Source when it
came out, and how the the hitboxes of the characters were shown well
and truly outside the actual player model in some hacking vids
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdRpYaQA8cU).  Apart from the awesome
portrayal of mental disorders such as (probably) schizophrenia,
Skhizein is real-world problem of your own 'hitbox' being displaced
from your 0,0,0 origin and how that affects your everyday world.  I
loved it! It got even funnier when it evolved and he didnt just have a
horizontal adjustment to make.

Anyhoo, im curious how this could be explored more in an actual game
design as perhaps a critical feature, or central theme, any ideas?

ToWeR

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Re: Hitboxes hit cinemas

2009-10-29T04:55:31Z