Pandorabots Announces the Availability of Bespoke Pandorabots SpellBinder Service

[Dr. Rich Wallace]

Oakland, CA - 07 October 2009: Pandorabots, Inc. is announcing a
significant advance in the state of the art of chat bots based on
artificial intelligence.

Previously the construction of believable characters based on
artificial intelligence required hand-crafting thousands of sentences
- aimed at creating a high-quality chat bot brain. A few creative
people took up the challenge and authored some of the best chat bots
around today. Until now, the tedious and expensive process of
developing and training a high-quality believable chat bot remained a
significant hurdle to widespread chat bot adoption.

The new, patent-pending Pandorabots SpellBinderTM technology reduces
chat bot creation time enormously. Pandorabots SpellBinder
automatically learns from conversational transcripts. Nothing else on
the market today can create high-quality and unique chat bot
characters as quickly and efficiently as Pandorabots SpellBinder
(Synthetic PErsonality Language Learning for Bot Intelligence from
Natural Dialog Example Recordings).

Transcripts are available from a wide variety of sources. Scripts of
TV shows and movies contain many characters. Stored Instant Messenger
logs are a source of dialog. Support and help desk services retain
transcripts to improve service offerings. Even unstructured, live
interviews with people who want to digitize their personalities
provide a source of bot training data.

In a recent review of the technology, the non-profit ALICE A.I.
Foundation reported that Pandorabots SpellBinder scanned publicly
available fan-compiled transcripts of 72 episodes of the original Star
Trek TV series. In those 72 episodes, Captain Kirk has about 9000
lines of dialog. Pandorabots SpellBinder read these lines and created
a Captain Kirk chat bot with about 2000 categories and 6000 responses
(a category is the basic unit of knowledge). Pandorabots SpellBinder
also created a chat bot representations of Mr. Spock and Dr. McCoy.
The A.I. Foundation has published these parody characters through this
link: http://alicebot.org/kirk.

Generally, the more dialog samples available in the transcripts, the
higher the fidelity of the resulting chat bot. In their review, the
A.I. Foundation also used Pandorabots SpellBinder to scan the
transcripts of the NASA Apollo 11 mission, involving conversations
with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldin. Pandorabots SpellBinder was used
to create chat bots representing Neil and Buzz. As the number of
dialog samples was only about 1500 for each character, Pandorabots
SpellBinder was able to create chat bots with about 1000 categories,
around the minimum needed for a believable character.

Pandorabots announced the immediate availability of a bespoke chat bot
development service based on Pandorabots SpellBinder. For as long as
anyone can remember, Companies have been sponsoring cartoons and in
return, cartoons have sponsored Companies. With chat bots, Companies
may use this service to create branding and marketing opportunities
which interact with people on an individual basis. Non-profit and
Government entities may use this service to bring interactive
capabilities to existing characters (examples include Smokey The Bear,
Mickey Mouse. Homer Simpson, Bambi, Hello Kitty, Lica). Politicians
and celebrities may also use this service as a means of expanding
their visibility.

Additional information about Pandorabots SpellBinder service is
available at: http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/desc.html

For more details about Pandorabots : http://www.pandorabots.com

Contact Information:

Dr. Richard Wallace
Chief Science Officer
rich@...
[phone]

http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/index.html
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[Mark Boon-2]

    Dear Dr. Wallace,

This sounds fascinating. I'd very much like to learn more about it. Unfortunately, when I try any of the links in this mail I get no connection. The whole pandorabots.com site has been unreachable for three days in a row now while I experience no connectivity problems with any other web-sites.

Regards,

    Mark Boon

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Dr. Rich Wallace <drwallace@...> wrote:

Oakland, CA - 07 October 2009: Pandorabots, Inc. is announcing a
significant advance in the state of the art of chat bots based on
artificial intelligence.

Previously the construction of believable characters based on
artificial intelligence required hand-crafting thousands of sentences
- aimed at creating a high-quality chat bot brain. A few creative
people took up the challenge and authored some of the best chat bots
around today. Until now, the tedious and expensive process of
developing and training a high-quality believable chat bot remained a
significant hurdle to widespread chat bot adoption.

The new, patent-pending Pandorabots SpellBinderTM technology reduces
chat bot creation time enormously. Pandorabots SpellBinder
automatically learns from conversational transcripts. Nothing else on
the market today can create high-quality and unique chat bot
characters as quickly and efficiently as Pandorabots SpellBinder
(Synthetic PErsonality Language Learning for Bot Intelligence from
Natural Dialog Example Recordings).

Transcripts are available from a wide variety of sources. Scripts of
TV shows and movies contain many characters. Stored Instant Messenger
logs are a source of dialog. Support and help desk services retain
transcripts to improve service offerings. Even unstructured, live
interviews with people who want to digitize their personalities
provide a source of bot training data.

In a recent review of the technology, the non-profit ALICE A.I.
Foundation reported that Pandorabots SpellBinder scanned publicly
available fan-compiled transcripts of 72 episodes of the original Star
Trek TV series. In those 72 episodes, Captain Kirk has about 9000
lines of dialog. Pandorabots SpellBinder read these lines and created
a Captain Kirk chat bot with about 2000 categories and 6000 responses
(a category is the basic unit of knowledge). Pandorabots SpellBinder
also created a chat bot representations of Mr. Spock and Dr. McCoy.
The A.I. Foundation has published these parody characters through this
link: http://alicebot.org/kirk.

Generally, the more dialog samples available in the transcripts, the
higher the fidelity of the resulting chat bot. In their review, the
A.I. Foundation also used Pandorabots SpellBinder to scan the
transcripts of the NASA Apollo 11 mission, involving conversations
with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldin. Pandorabots SpellBinder was used
to create chat bots representing Neil and Buzz. As the number of
dialog samples was only about 1500 for each character, Pandorabots
SpellBinder was able to create chat bots with about 1000 categories,
around the minimum needed for a believable character.

Pandorabots announced the immediate availability of a bespoke chat bot
development service based on Pandorabots SpellBinder. For as long as
anyone can remember, Companies have been sponsoring cartoons and in
return, cartoons have sponsored Companies. With chat bots, Companies
may use this service to create branding and marketing opportunities
which interact with people on an individual basis. Non-profit and
Government entities may use this service to bring interactive
capabilities to existing characters (examples include Smokey The Bear,
Mickey Mouse. Homer Simpson, Bambi, Hello Kitty, Lica). Politicians
and celebrities may also use this service as a means of expanding
their visibility.

Additional information about Pandorabots SpellBinder service is
available at: http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/desc.html

For more details about Pandorabots : http://www.pandorabots.com

Contact Information:

Dr. Richard Wallace
Chief Science Officer
rich@...
[phone]

http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/index.html
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[andy-80]

Thanks Dr. Wallace. I appreciate you keeping me in the loop.

Let me know when you have a moment to chat.

Andy Melder
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From: "Dr. Rich Wallace" <drwallace@...>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:02:55
To: <pandorabots-general@...>
Subject: [pandorabots-general] Pandorabots Announces the Availability of
        Bespoke Pandorabots SpellBinder Service

Oakland, CA - 07 October 2009: Pandorabots, Inc. is announcing a
significant advance in the state of the art of chat bots based on
artificial intelligence.

Previously the construction of believable characters based on
artificial intelligence required hand-crafting thousands of sentences
- aimed at creating a high-quality chat bot brain. A few creative
people took up the challenge and authored some of the best chat bots
around today. Until now, the tedious and expensive process of
developing and training a high-quality believable chat bot remained a
significant hurdle to widespread chat bot adoption.

The new, patent-pending Pandorabots SpellBinderTM technology reduces
chat bot creation time enormously. Pandorabots SpellBinder
automatically learns from conversational transcripts. Nothing else on
the market today can create high-quality and unique chat bot
characters as quickly and efficiently as Pandorabots SpellBinder
(Synthetic PErsonality Language Learning for Bot Intelligence from
Natural Dialog Example Recordings).

Transcripts are available from a wide variety of sources. Scripts of
TV shows and movies contain many characters. Stored Instant Messenger
logs are a source of dialog. Support and help desk services retain
transcripts to improve service offerings. Even unstructured, live
interviews with people who want to digitize their personalities
provide a source of bot training data.

In a recent review of the technology, the non-profit ALICE A.I.
Foundation reported that Pandorabots SpellBinder scanned publicly
available fan-compiled transcripts of 72 episodes of the original Star
Trek TV series. In those 72 episodes, Captain Kirk has about 9000
lines of dialog. Pandorabots SpellBinder read these lines and created
a Captain Kirk chat bot with about 2000 categories and 6000 responses
(a category is the basic unit of knowledge). Pandorabots SpellBinder
also created a chat bot representations of Mr. Spock and Dr. McCoy.
The A.I. Foundation has published these parody characters through this
link: http://alicebot.org/kirk.

Generally, the more dialog samples available in the transcripts, the
higher the fidelity of the resulting chat bot. In their review, the
A.I. Foundation also used Pandorabots SpellBinder to scan the
transcripts of the NASA Apollo 11 mission, involving conversations
with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldin. Pandorabots SpellBinder was used
to create chat bots representing Neil and Buzz. As the number of
dialog samples was only about 1500 for each character, Pandorabots
SpellBinder was able to create chat bots with about 1000 categories,
around the minimum needed for a believable character.

Pandorabots announced the immediate availability of a bespoke chat bot
development service based on Pandorabots SpellBinder. For as long as
anyone can remember, Companies have been sponsoring cartoons and in
return, cartoons have sponsored Companies. With chat bots, Companies
may use this service to create branding and marketing opportunities
which interact with people on an individual basis. Non-profit and
Government entities may use this service to bring interactive
capabilities to existing characters (examples include Smokey The Bear,
Mickey Mouse. Homer Simpson, Bambi, Hello Kitty, Lica). Politicians
and celebrities may also use this service as a means of expanding
their visibility.

Additional information about Pandorabots SpellBinder service is
available at: http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/desc.html

For more details about Pandorabots : http://www.pandorabots.com

Contact Information:

Dr. Richard Wallace
Chief Science Officer
rich@...
[phone]

http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/index.html
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[Joshua Madara]

Dr. Wallace and friends,

I just had a brief chat with Capt Kirk, and his responses were awfully
non sequitur -- not noticeably better than if he'd replied to each of
my sentences with a random one of his own. Is there a better
demonstration of bots created using SpellBinder? It's a good idea...

Respectfully,
Joshua


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dr. Rich Wallace <drwallace@...> wrote:

> Oakland, CA - 07 October 2009: Pandorabots, Inc. is announcing a
> significant advance in the state of the art of chat bots based on
> artificial intelligence.
>
> Previously the construction of believable characters based on
> artificial intelligence required hand-crafting thousands of sentences
> - aimed at creating a high-quality chat bot brain. A few creative
> people took up the challenge and authored some of the best chat bots
> around today. Until now, the tedious and expensive process of
> developing and training a high-quality believable chat bot remained a
> significant hurdle to widespread chat bot adoption.
>
> The new, patent-pending Pandorabots SpellBinderTM technology reduces
> chat bot creation time enormously. Pandorabots SpellBinder
> automatically learns from conversational transcripts. Nothing else on
> the market today can create high-quality and unique chat bot
> characters as quickly and efficiently as Pandorabots SpellBinder
> (Synthetic PErsonality Language Learning for Bot Intelligence from
> Natural Dialog Example Recordings).
>
> Transcripts are available from a wide variety of sources. Scripts of
> TV shows and movies contain many characters. Stored Instant Messenger
> logs are a source of dialog. Support and help desk services retain
> transcripts to improve service offerings. Even unstructured, live
> interviews with people who want to digitize their personalities
> provide a source of bot training data.
>
> In a recent review of the technology, the non-profit ALICE A.I.
> Foundation reported that Pandorabots SpellBinder scanned publicly
> available fan-compiled transcripts of 72 episodes of the original Star
> Trek TV series. In those 72 episodes, Captain Kirk has about 9000
> lines of dialog. Pandorabots SpellBinder read these lines and created
> a Captain Kirk chat bot with about 2000 categories and 6000 responses
> (a category is the basic unit of knowledge). Pandorabots SpellBinder
> also created a chat bot representations of Mr. Spock and Dr. McCoy.
> The A.I. Foundation has published these parody characters through this
> link: http://alicebot.org/kirk.
>
> Generally, the more dialog samples available in the transcripts, the
> higher the fidelity of the resulting chat bot. In their review, the
> A.I. Foundation also used Pandorabots SpellBinder to scan the
> transcripts of the NASA Apollo 11 mission, involving conversations
> with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldin. Pandorabots SpellBinder was used
> to create chat bots representing Neil and Buzz. As the number of
> dialog samples was only about 1500 for each character, Pandorabots
> SpellBinder was able to create chat bots with about 1000 categories,
> around the minimum needed for a believable character.
>
> Pandorabots announced the immediate availability of a bespoke chat bot
> development service based on Pandorabots SpellBinder. For as long as
> anyone can remember, Companies have been sponsoring cartoons and in
> return, cartoons have sponsored Companies. With chat bots, Companies
> may use this service to create branding and marketing opportunities
> which interact with people on an individual basis. Non-profit and
> Government entities may use this service to bring interactive
> capabilities to existing characters (examples include Smokey The Bear,
> Mickey Mouse. Homer Simpson, Bambi, Hello Kitty, Lica). Politicians
> and celebrities may also use this service as a means of expanding
> their visibility.
>
> Additional information about Pandorabots SpellBinder service is
> available at: http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/desc.html
>
> For more details about Pandorabots : http://www.pandorabots.com
>
> Contact Information:
>
> Dr. Richard Wallace
> Chief Science Officer
> rich@...
> [phone]
>
> http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/index.html
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[drwallace]

Thanks for trying out the bots, and posting your comments.  We're
working hard on getting the server response issues corrected.

The Star Trek bots are by no means the final version of those
characters. I think we say in the marketing materials that SpellBinder
will produce a good "first draft" of a bot. The characters can still
be improved with existing tools. I've been monitoring some of the
conversations coming in and already done some targeting to improve the
quality of the bots.

I think the important point is that you can get a bot with thousands
of AIML categories in just a few hours or even less with this
technology. It sure beats writing that much AIML by hand.

Also, the more transcripts available, the better the bot Spellbinder
will create. And if the transcript was a directed interview (asking
Superbot style questions), it would do even better.

The bots work better too if you say "Call me Dave" or "My name is
Dave". Then the ST bots will use your name instead of "Lieutenant" and
the Apollo 11 bots won't call you "Cap Comm".

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Joshua Madara <jamadara@...> wrote:

> Dr. Wallace and friends,
>
> I just had a brief chat with Capt Kirk, and his responses were awfully
> non sequitur -- not noticeably better than if he'd replied to each of
> my sentences with a random one of his own. Is there a better
> demonstration of bots created using SpellBinder? It's a good idea...
>
> Respectfully,
> Joshua
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dr. Rich Wallace <drwallace@...> wrote:
>> Oakland, CA - 07 October 2009: Pandorabots, Inc. is announcing a
>> significant advance in the state of the art of chat bots based on
>> artificial intelligence.
>>
>> Previously the construction of believable characters based on
>> artificial intelligence required hand-crafting thousands of sentences
>> - aimed at creating a high-quality chat bot brain. A few creative
>> people took up the challenge and authored some of the best chat bots
>> around today. Until now, the tedious and expensive process of
>> developing and training a high-quality believable chat bot remained a
>> significant hurdle to widespread chat bot adoption.
>>
>> The new, patent-pending Pandorabots SpellBinderTM technology reduces
>> chat bot creation time enormously. Pandorabots SpellBinder
>> automatically learns from conversational transcripts. Nothing else on
>> the market today can create high-quality and unique chat bot
>> characters as quickly and efficiently as Pandorabots SpellBinder
>> (Synthetic PErsonality Language Learning for Bot Intelligence from
>> Natural Dialog Example Recordings).
>>
>> Transcripts are available from a wide variety of sources. Scripts of
>> TV shows and movies contain many characters. Stored Instant Messenger
>> logs are a source of dialog. Support and help desk services retain
>> transcripts to improve service offerings. Even unstructured, live
>> interviews with people who want to digitize their personalities
>> provide a source of bot training data.
>>
>> In a recent review of the technology, the non-profit ALICE A.I.
>> Foundation reported that Pandorabots SpellBinder scanned publicly
>> available fan-compiled transcripts of 72 episodes of the original Star
>> Trek TV series. In those 72 episodes, Captain Kirk has about 9000
>> lines of dialog. Pandorabots SpellBinder read these lines and created
>> a Captain Kirk chat bot with about 2000 categories and 6000 responses
>> (a category is the basic unit of knowledge). Pandorabots SpellBinder
>> also created a chat bot representations of Mr. Spock and Dr. McCoy.
>> The A.I. Foundation has published these parody characters through this
>> link: http://alicebot.org/kirk.
>>
>> Generally, the more dialog samples available in the transcripts, the
>> higher the fidelity of the resulting chat bot. In their review, the
>> A.I. Foundation also used Pandorabots SpellBinder to scan the
>> transcripts of the NASA Apollo 11 mission, involving conversations
>> with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldin. Pandorabots SpellBinder was used
>> to create chat bots representing Neil and Buzz. As the number of
>> dialog samples was only about 1500 for each character, Pandorabots
>> SpellBinder was able to create chat bots with about 1000 categories,
>> around the minimum needed for a believable character.
>>
>> Pandorabots announced the immediate availability of a bespoke chat bot
>> development service based on Pandorabots SpellBinder. For as long as
>> anyone can remember, Companies have been sponsoring cartoons and in
>> return, cartoons have sponsored Companies. With chat bots, Companies
>> may use this service to create branding and marketing opportunities
>> which interact with people on an individual basis. Non-profit and
>> Government entities may use this service to bring interactive
>> capabilities to existing characters (examples include Smokey The Bear,
>> Mickey Mouse. Homer Simpson, Bambi, Hello Kitty, Lica). Politicians
>> and celebrities may also use this service as a means of expanding
>> their visibility.
>>
>> Additional information about Pandorabots SpellBinder service is
>> available at: http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/desc.html
>>
>> For more details about Pandorabots : http://www.pandorabots.com
>>
>> Contact Information:
>>
>> Dr. Richard Wallace
>> Chief Science Officer
>> rich@...
>> [phone]
>>
>> http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/index.html
>> _______________________________________________
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[Joshua Madara]

Dr. Wallace,

Thank you; very good. I look forward to learning more about this new technology.

Best,
Joshua


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Dr. Rich Wallace <drwallace@...> wrote:

> Thanks for trying out the bots, and posting your comments.  We're
> working hard on getting the server response issues corrected.
>
> The Star Trek bots are by no means the final version of those
> characters. I think we say in the marketing materials that SpellBinder
> will produce a good "first draft" of a bot. The characters can still
> be improved with existing tools. I've been monitoring some of the
> conversations coming in and already done some targeting to improve the
> quality of the bots.
>
> I think the important point is that you can get a bot with thousands
> of AIML categories in just a few hours or even less with this
> technology. It sure beats writing that much AIML by hand.
>
> Also, the more transcripts available, the better the bot Spellbinder
> will create. And if the transcript was a directed interview (asking
> Superbot style questions), it would do even better.
>
> The bots work better too if you say "Call me Dave" or "My name is
> Dave". Then the ST bots will use your name instead of "Lieutenant" and
> the Apollo 11 bots won't call you "Cap Comm".
>

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[crystalwizard]

Pandorabots is up for me.

But yeah, it's been unreachable for several days.

It's frequently unreachable, or incredibly slow. It times out when I'm trying to work on logs or code.

I'm not sure what servers it's running on, or what the problem is, but it's frustrating. And it affects my bot.

quite often, I (or someone else) will load the page he's on and he'll just sit there. I have an avatar for him and the avatar will follow the mouse with his eyes, but it takes forever before he says anything.

Dr. Wallace, you REALLY need to do something about improving both the pandorabot servers AND the website, because it's truly ugly.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Mark Boon <mboon@...> wrote:

    Dear Dr. Wallace,

This sounds fascinating. I'd very much like to learn more about it. Unfortunately, when I try any of the links in this mail I get no connection. The whole pandorabots.com site has been unreachable for three days in a row now while I experience no connectivity problems with any other web-sites.

Regards,

    Mark Boon

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Dr. Rich Wallace <drwallace@...> wrote:

Oakland, CA - 07 October 2009: Pandorabots, Inc. is announcing a
significant advance in the state of the art of chat bots based on
artificial intelligence.

Previously the construction of believable characters based on
artificial intelligence required hand-crafting thousands of sentences
- aimed at creating a high-quality chat bot brain. A few creative
people took up the challenge and authored some of the best chat bots
around today. Until now, the tedious and expensive process of
developing and training a high-quality believable chat bot remained a
significant hurdle to widespread chat bot adoption.

The new, patent-pending Pandorabots SpellBinderTM technology reduces
chat bot creation time enormously. Pandorabots SpellBinder
automatically learns from conversational transcripts. Nothing else on
the market today can create high-quality and unique chat bot
characters as quickly and efficiently as Pandorabots SpellBinder
(Synthetic PErsonality Language Learning for Bot Intelligence from
Natural Dialog Example Recordings).

Transcripts are available from a wide variety of sources. Scripts of
TV shows and movies contain many characters. Stored Instant Messenger
logs are a source of dialog. Support and help desk services retain
transcripts to improve service offerings. Even unstructured, live
interviews with people who want to digitize their personalities
provide a source of bot training data.

In a recent review of the technology, the non-profit ALICE A.I.
Foundation reported that Pandorabots SpellBinder scanned publicly
available fan-compiled transcripts of 72 episodes of the original Star
Trek TV series. In those 72 episodes, Captain Kirk has about 9000
lines of dialog. Pandorabots SpellBinder read these lines and created
a Captain Kirk chat bot with about 2000 categories and 6000 responses
(a category is the basic unit of knowledge). Pandorabots SpellBinder
also created a chat bot representations of Mr. Spock and Dr. McCoy.
The A.I. Foundation has published these parody characters through this
link: http://alicebot.org/kirk.

Generally, the more dialog samples available in the transcripts, the
higher the fidelity of the resulting chat bot. In their review, the
A.I. Foundation also used Pandorabots SpellBinder to scan the
transcripts of the NASA Apollo 11 mission, involving conversations
with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldin. Pandorabots SpellBinder was used
to create chat bots representing Neil and Buzz. As the number of
dialog samples was only about 1500 for each character, Pandorabots
SpellBinder was able to create chat bots with about 1000 categories,
around the minimum needed for a believable character.

Pandorabots announced the immediate availability of a bespoke chat bot
development service based on Pandorabots SpellBinder. For as long as
anyone can remember, Companies have been sponsoring cartoons and in
return, cartoons have sponsored Companies. With chat bots, Companies
may use this service to create branding and marketing opportunities
which interact with people on an individual basis. Non-profit and
Government entities may use this service to bring interactive
capabilities to existing characters (examples include Smokey The Bear,
Mickey Mouse. Homer Simpson, Bambi, Hello Kitty, Lica). Politicians
and celebrities may also use this service as a means of expanding
their visibility.

Additional information about Pandorabots SpellBinder service is
available at: http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/desc.html

For more details about Pandorabots : http://www.pandorabots.com

Contact Information:

Dr. Richard Wallace
Chief Science Officer
rich@...
[phone]

http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/index.html
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[drwallace]

Yes, we are frustrated too.   Thank you for your patience and
hopefully we can get our improvements in place soon.

Meanwhile there is a subscription service available for hosting your
bot on a shared server with much more resources.

http://bandore.pandorabots.com:8008/subscription/index.html

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:30 PM, crystalwizard
<crystalwizard321@...> wrote:

> Pandorabots is up for me.
>
> But yeah, it's been unreachable for several days.
>
> It's frequently unreachable, or incredibly slow. It times out when I'm
> trying to work on logs or code.
>
> I'm not sure what servers it's running on, or what the problem is, but it's
> frustrating. And it affects my bot.
>
> quite often, I (or someone else) will load the page he's on and he'll just
> sit there. I have an avatar for him and the avatar will follow the mouse
> with his eyes, but it takes forever before he says anything.
>
> Dr. Wallace, you REALLY need to do something about improving both the
> pandorabot servers AND the website, because it's truly ugly.
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Mark Boon <mboon@...> wrote:
>>
>>     Dear Dr. Wallace,
>>
>> This sounds fascinating. I'd very much like to learn more about it.
>> Unfortunately, when I try any of the links in this mail I get no connection.
>> The whole pandorabots.com site has been unreachable for three days in a row
>> now while I experience no connectivity problems with any other web-sites.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>     Mark Boon
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Dr. Rich Wallace <drwallace@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oakland, CA - 07 October 2009: Pandorabots, Inc. is announcing a
>>> significant advance in the state of the art of chat bots based on
>>> artificial intelligence.
>>>
>>> Previously the construction of believable characters based on
>>> artificial intelligence required hand-crafting thousands of sentences
>>> - aimed at creating a high-quality chat bot brain. A few creative
>>> people took up the challenge and authored some of the best chat bots
>>> around today. Until now, the tedious and expensive process of
>>> developing and training a high-quality believable chat bot remained a
>>> significant hurdle to widespread chat bot adoption.
>>>
>>> The new, patent-pending Pandorabots SpellBinderTM technology reduces
>>> chat bot creation time enormously. Pandorabots SpellBinder
>>> automatically learns from conversational transcripts. Nothing else on
>>> the market today can create high-quality and unique chat bot
>>> characters as quickly and efficiently as Pandorabots SpellBinder
>>> (Synthetic PErsonality Language Learning for Bot Intelligence from
>>> Natural Dialog Example Recordings).
>>>
>>> Transcripts are available from a wide variety of sources. Scripts of
>>> TV shows and movies contain many characters. Stored Instant Messenger
>>> logs are a source of dialog. Support and help desk services retain
>>> transcripts to improve service offerings. Even unstructured, live
>>> interviews with people who want to digitize their personalities
>>> provide a source of bot training data.
>>>
>>> In a recent review of the technology, the non-profit ALICE A.I.
>>> Foundation reported that Pandorabots SpellBinder scanned publicly
>>> available fan-compiled transcripts of 72 episodes of the original Star
>>> Trek TV series. In those 72 episodes, Captain Kirk has about 9000
>>> lines of dialog. Pandorabots SpellBinder read these lines and created
>>> a Captain Kirk chat bot with about 2000 categories and 6000 responses
>>> (a category is the basic unit of knowledge). Pandorabots SpellBinder
>>> also created a chat bot representations of Mr. Spock and Dr. McCoy.
>>> The A.I. Foundation has published these parody characters through this
>>> link: http://alicebot.org/kirk.
>>>
>>> Generally, the more dialog samples available in the transcripts, the
>>> higher the fidelity of the resulting chat bot. In their review, the
>>> A.I. Foundation also used Pandorabots SpellBinder to scan the
>>> transcripts of the NASA Apollo 11 mission, involving conversations
>>> with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldin. Pandorabots SpellBinder was used
>>> to create chat bots representing Neil and Buzz. As the number of
>>> dialog samples was only about 1500 for each character, Pandorabots
>>> SpellBinder was able to create chat bots with about 1000 categories,
>>> around the minimum needed for a believable character.
>>>
>>> Pandorabots announced the immediate availability of a bespoke chat bot
>>> development service based on Pandorabots SpellBinder. For as long as
>>> anyone can remember, Companies have been sponsoring cartoons and in
>>> return, cartoons have sponsored Companies. With chat bots, Companies
>>> may use this service to create branding and marketing opportunities
>>> which interact with people on an individual basis. Non-profit and
>>> Government entities may use this service to bring interactive
>>> capabilities to existing characters (examples include Smokey The Bear,
>>> Mickey Mouse. Homer Simpson, Bambi, Hello Kitty, Lica). Politicians
>>> and celebrities may also use this service as a means of expanding
>>> their visibility.
>>>
>>> Additional information about Pandorabots SpellBinder service is
>>> available at: http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/desc.html
>>>
>>> For more details about Pandorabots : http://www.pandorabots.com
>>>
>>> Contact Information:
>>>
>>> Dr. Richard Wallace
>>> Chief Science Officer
>>> rich@...
>>> [phone]
>>>
>>> http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/index.html
>>> _______________________________________________
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[crystalwizard]

Meanwhile there is a subscription service available for hosting your bot on a shared server with much more resources.

I'm already paying for the symantec avatar.

I have an ezine. I spend money to publish it. I give the content away. I can't afford a subscription bot hosting site.

And since you're benefiting from anyone that talks to my bot, I kind of think it would be good if people who visit my site were able to talk to it, you know? And I wasn't lagged out or frustrated when trying to code it.

Since the bot you're selling for 1000.00 is the result of all the logs our bots provide for you, I'm sorta of the opinion you should give us decent hosting for free. But that's just me.
 

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[Toni Wong]

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Any people used Actual Live before?

(www.actual-live.com)

 

It’s a great live chat between visitor and webmaster.

Webmaster can send an invitation message to the visitor for a chat.

More suitable for business website.

 

 

 

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Meanwhile there is a subscription service available for hosting your bot on a shared server with much more resources.

I'm already paying for the symantec avatar.

I have an ezine. I spend money to publish it. I give the content away. I can't afford a subscription bot hosting site.

And since you're benefiting from anyone that talks to my bot, I kind of think it would be good if people who visit my site were able to talk to it, you know? And I wasn't lagged out or frustrated when trying to code it.

Since the bot you're selling for 1000.00 is the result of all the logs our bots provide for you, I'm sorta of the opinion you should give us decent hosting for free. But that's just me.
 

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Hi,

Quick question. I would like to know if your (amazing) technology is limited to english only. For example, can i produce french aiml by using SpellBlinder ?

Thanks,
Johnny Baillargeaux

> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:02:55 -0700
> From: drwallace@...
> To: pandorabots-general@...
> Subject: [pandorabots-general] Pandorabots Announces the Availability of Bespoke Pandorabots SpellBinder Service
>
> Oakland, CA - 07 October 2009: Pandorabots, Inc. is announcing a
> significant advance in the state of the art of chat bots based on
> artificial intelligence.
>
> Previously the construction of believable characters based on
> artificial intelligence required hand-crafting thousands of sentences
> - aimed at creating a high-quality chat bot brain. A few creative
> people took up the challenge and authored some of the best chat bots
> around today. Until now, the tedious and expensive process of
> developing and training a high-quality believable chat bot remained a
> significant hurdle to widespread chat bot adoption.
>
> The new, patent-pending Pandorabots SpellBinderTM technology reduces
> chat bot creation time enormously. Pandorabots SpellBinder
> automatically learns from conversational transcripts. Nothing else on
> the market today can create high-quality and unique chat bot
> characters as quickly and efficiently as Pandorabots SpellBinder
> (Synthetic PErsonality Language Learning for Bot Intelligence from
> Natural Dialog Example Recordings).
>
> Transcripts are available from a wide variety of sources. Scripts of
> TV shows and movies contain many characters. Stored Instant Messenger
> logs are a source of dialog. Support and help desk services retain
> transcripts to improve service offerings. Even unstructured, live
> interviews with people who want to digitize their personalities
> provide a source of bot training data.
>
> In a recent review of the technology, the non-profit ALICE A.I.
> Foundation reported that Pandorabots SpellBinder scanned publicly
> available fan-compiled transcripts of 72 episodes of the original Star
> Trek TV series. In those 72 episodes, Captain Kirk has about 9000
> lines of dialog. Pandorabots SpellBinder read these lines and created
> a Captain Kirk chat bot with about 2000 categories and 6000 responses
> (a category is the basic unit of knowledge). Pandorabots SpellBinder
> also created a chat bot representations of Mr. Spock and Dr. McCoy.
> The A.I. Foundation has published these parody characters through this
> link: http://alicebot.org/kirk.
>
> Generally, the more dialog samples available in the transcripts, the
> higher the fidelity of the resulting chat bot. In their review, the
> A.I. Foundation also used Pandorabots SpellBinder to scan the
> transcripts of the NASA Apollo 11 mission, involving conversations
> with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldin. Pandorabots SpellBinder was used
> to create chat bots representing Neil and Buzz. As the number of
> dialog samples was only about 1500 for each character, Pandorabots
> SpellBinder was able to create chat bots with about 1000 categories,
> around the minimum needed for a believable character.
>
> Pandorabots announced the immediate availability of a bespoke chat bot
> development service based on Pandorabots SpellBinder. For as long as
> anyone can remember, Companies have been sponsoring cartoons and in
> return, cartoons have sponsored Companies. With chat bots, Companies
> may use this service to create branding and marketing opportunities
> which interact with people on an individual basis. Non-profit and
> Government entities may use this service to bring interactive
> capabilities to existing characters (examples include Smokey The Bear,
> Mickey Mouse. Homer Simpson, Bambi, Hello Kitty, Lica). Politicians
> and celebrities may also use this service as a means of expanding
> their visibility.
>
> Additional information about Pandorabots SpellBinder service is
> available at: http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/desc.html
>
> For more details about Pandorabots : http://www.pandorabots.com
>
> Contact Information:
>
> Dr. Richard Wallace
> Chief Science Officer
> rich@...
> [phone]
>
> http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/index.html
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[drwallace]

I sympathize with your concerns about the free Pandorabots server
performance.   We are doing everything we can to address the problem.

I can see how it is confusing when someone signs up for a Sitepal
avatar on Pandorabots, to think that they are paying Pandorabots.  In
fact Oddcast/Sitepal is a different company and we don't see revenue
from the avatar subscriptions.

However I discussed this point with our sales team and they agree that
it is confusing, as other bot companies do offer integrated avatar/bot
hosting subscription solutions.  We will be talking about this and
trying to come up with a different approach.

The Superbot was developed using log files from the original ALICE bot
only, not all the other bots on Pandorabots.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:24 PM, crystalwizard
<crystalwizard321@...> wrote:

>
>>
>> Meanwhile there is a subscription service available for hosting your bot
>> on a shared server with much more resources.
>>
>
> I'm already paying for the symantec avatar.
>
> I have an ezine. I spend money to publish it. I give the content away. I
> can't afford a subscription bot hosting site.
>
> And since you're benefiting from anyone that talks to my bot, I kind of
> think it would be good if people who visit my site were able to talk to it,
> you know? And I wasn't lagged out or frustrated when trying to code it.
>
> Since the bot you're selling for 1000.00 is the result of all the logs our
> bots provide for you, I'm sorta of the opinion you should give us decent
> hosting for free. But that's just me.
>
>
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[drwallace]

Johnny, this is a good question!   So far SpellBinder has developed
for English only.  Technically it is feasible to work on other
languages too.  Some initial overhead work has to be completed first.
 Please contact me off-list or call [phone] to talk about the
requirements.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:56 AM, ceki kela <jbx028@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Quick question. I would like to know if your (amazing) technology is limited
> to english only. For example, can i produce french aiml by using
> SpellBlinder ?
>
> Thanks,
> Johnny Baillargeaux
>
>> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:02:55 -0700
>> From: drwallace@...
>> To: pandorabots-general@...
>> Subject: [pandorabots-general] Pandorabots Announces the Availability of
>> Bespoke Pandorabots SpellBinder Service
>>
>> Oakland, CA - 07 October 2009: Pandorabots, Inc. is announcing a
>> significant advance in the state of the art of chat bots based on
>> artificial intelligence.
>>
>> Previously the construction of believable characters based on
>> artificial intelligence required hand-crafting thousands of sentences
>> - aimed at creating a high-quality chat bot brain. A few creative
>> people took up the challenge and authored some of the best chat bots
>> around today. Until now, the tedious and expensive process of
>> developing and training a high-quality believable chat bot remained a
>> significant hurdle to widespread chat bot adoption.
>>
>> The new, patent-pending Pandorabots SpellBinderTM technology reduces
>> chat bot creation time enormously. Pandorabots SpellBinder
>> automatically learns from conversational transcripts. Nothing else on
>> the market today can create high-quality and unique chat bot
>> characters as quickly and efficiently as Pandorabots SpellBinder
>> (Synthetic PErsonality Language Learning for Bot Intelligence from
>> Natural Dialog Example Recordings).
>>
>> Transcripts are available from a wide variety of sources. Scripts of
>> TV shows and movies contain many characters. Stored Instant Messenger
>> logs are a source of dialog. Support and help desk services retain
>> transcripts to improve service offerings. Even unstructured, live
>> interviews with people who want to digitize their personalities
>> provide a source of bot training data.
>>
>> In a recent review of the technology, the non-profit ALICE A.I.
>> Foundation reported that Pandorabots SpellBinder scanned publicly
>> available fan-compiled transcripts of 72 episodes of the original Star
>> Trek TV series. In those 72 episodes, Captain Kirk has about 9000
>> lines of dialog. Pandorabots SpellBinder read these lines and created
>> a Captain Kirk chat bot with about 2000 categories and 6000 responses
>> (a category is the basic unit of knowledge). Pandorabots SpellBinder
>> also created a chat bot representations of Mr. Spock and Dr. McCoy.
>> The A.I. Foundation has published these parody characters through this
>> link: http://alicebot.org/kirk.
>>
>> Generally, the more dialog samples available in the transcripts, the
>> higher the fidelity of the resulting chat bot. In their review, the
>> A.I. Foundation also used Pandorabots SpellBinder to scan the
>> transcripts of the NASA Apollo 11 mission, involving conversations
>> with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldin. Pandorabots SpellBinder was used
>> to create chat bots representing Neil and Buzz. As the number of
>> dialog samples was only about 1500 for each character, Pandorabots
>> SpellBinder was able to create chat bots with about 1000 categories,
>> around the minimum needed for a believable character.
>>
>> Pandorabots announced the immediate availability of a bespoke chat bot
>> development service based on Pandorabots SpellBinder. For as long as
>> anyone can remember, Companies have been sponsoring cartoons and in
>> return, cartoons have sponsored Companies. With chat bots, Companies
>> may use this service to create branding and marketing opportunities
>> which interact with people on an individual basis. Non-profit and
>> Government entities may use this service to bring interactive
>> capabilities to existing characters (examples include Smokey The Bear,
>> Mickey Mouse. Homer Simpson, Bambi, Hello Kitty, Lica). Politicians
>> and celebrities may also use this service as a means of expanding
>> their visibility.
>>
>> Additional information about Pandorabots SpellBinder service is
>> available at: http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/desc.html
>>
>> For more details about Pandorabots : http://www.pandorabots.com
>>
>> Contact Information:
>>
>> Dr. Richard Wallace
>> Chief Science Officer
>> rich@...
>> [phone]
>>
>> http://pandorabots.com/pandora/pics/spellbinder/index.html
>> _______________________________________________
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[CWP]

How about offering a set of pandorabot avatars then? I'd really rather not have to go to a different company for mine. And if you need people for them, I'm a graphic artist, I could render you a bunch.

Might be a way to give a bit of extra revenue from the pandorabots.

I can see how it is confusing when someone signs up for a Sitepal
avatar on Pandorabots, to think that they are paying Pandorabots.  In
fact Oddcast/Sitepal is a different company and we don't see revenue
from the avatar subscriptions.

However I discussed this point with our sales team and they agree that
it is confusing, as other bot companies do offer integrated avatar/bot
hosting subscription solutions.  We will be talking about this and
trying to come up with a different approach.

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[drwallace]

Historically, Pandorabots and the AI Foundation have looked at the
general AI chat problem as one that consist of three distinct boxes or
stages:

Speech Recognition--->A.I. chat bot--->TTS/Avatar

1. Speech Recognition: convert voice signal to text.
2. AI Bot: text-to-text transformation, with the requirement that the
response creates the illusion of intelligence.
3. TTS/Avatar: convert the text signal back to speech and animated avatar.

Our philosophy has always been that there are plenty of other
companies working on Step 1 and Step 3.   We're in no position to
compete with Dragon and ViaVoice, nor even with Sitepal.  We've been
focused like a laser on step 2, which we regard as our primary area of
expertise.  In some sense diluting our efforts to work on 1 and 3
would mean less resources going into the chat part.   Building an
integrated system does however require integrations and partnerships
with companies doing 1 and 3.

That being said, it does make sense to offer integrated solutions.
Some years ago we formed a partnership with Oddcast/Sitepal to provide
avatar/TTS services to Pandorabots.   We've been happy with that
relationship, but like I said, I can see how it's confusing to someone
combining a paid avatar with a free bot hosting service.  I am
speculating that we will be looking at something along the lines of
what you suggest, a "Pandorabots avatar" subscription service.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:13 AM, CWP <cwizprod@...> wrote:

> How about offering a set of pandorabot avatars then? I'd really rather not
> have to go to a different company for mine. And if you need people for them,
> I'm a graphic artist, I could render you a bunch.
>
> Might be a way to give a bit of extra revenue from the pandorabots.
>
>
>> I can see how it is confusing when someone signs up for a Sitepal
>> avatar on Pandorabots, to think that they are paying Pandorabots.  In
>> fact Oddcast/Sitepal is a different company and we don't see revenue
>> from the avatar subscriptions.
>>
>> However I discussed this point with our sales team and they agree that
>> it is confusing, as other bot companies do offer integrated avatar/bot
>> hosting subscription solutions.  We will be talking about this and
>> trying to come up with a different approach.
>>
>
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[crystalwizard]

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Dr. Rich Wallace <drwallace@...> wrote:

Historically, Pandorabots and the AI Foundation have looked at the
general AI chat problem as one that consist of three distinct boxes or
stages:

Yes, Dr. Wallace, but your users (like me) don't. We see it all as one thing.
 

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[drwallace]

It depends on the application.   A bot posting to a web forum or
chatting in IM for example doesn't need speech recognition or an
avatar.   Your point is well taken however and we will look into
offering integrated solutions.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:29 AM, crystalwizard
<crystalwizard321@...> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Dr. Rich Wallace <drwallace@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Historically, Pandorabots and the AI Foundation have looked at the
>> general AI chat problem as one that consist of three distinct boxes or
>> stages:
>
> Yes, Dr. Wallace, but your users (like me) don't. We see it all as one
> thing.
>
>
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[Scott Overmyer]

Perhaps not, but for our bot applications in Second Life (using Program#),
we could use speech recognition to good effect to integrate voice chat.

BTW, we have had lots of issues in resolving conflicts between the standard
AIML set and the new knowledge files we've added.  Any suggestions as to an
easy way to identify the location of the conflict/missed pattern match?

Regards,
Scotto...

Scott P Overmyer, PhD
Director, MSIS Program
Center for Graduate Studies
Baker College

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pandorabots-general-
> bounces+scott.overmyer=baker.edu@...
> [mailto:pandorabots-general-
> bounces+scott.overmyer=baker.edu@...] On Behalf Of Dr.
> Rich Wallace
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:32 AM
> To: pandorabots-general@...
> Subject: Re: [pandorabots-general] Pandorabots Announces the
> Availability of Bespoke Pandorabots SpellBinder Service
>
> It depends on the application.   A bot posting to a web forum or
> chatting in IM for example doesn't need speech recognition or an
> avatar.   Your point is well taken however and we will look into
> offering integrated solutions.
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:29 AM, crystalwizard
> <crystalwizard321@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Dr. Rich Wallace
> <drwallace@...>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Historically, Pandorabots and the AI Foundation have looked at the
> >> general AI chat problem as one that consist of three distinct boxes
> or
> >> stages:
> >
> > Yes, Dr. Wallace, but your users (like me) don't. We see it all as
> one
> > thing.
> >
> >
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[Ad-17]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Rich Wallace" <drwallace@...>
To: <pandorabots-general@...>
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [pandorabots-general] Pandorabots Announces the Availability
ofBespoke Pandorabots SpellBinder Service


>I sympathize with your concerns about the free Pandorabots server
> performance.   We are doing everything we can to address the problem.

Its been like this for nearly a year (and probably longer), outages have
just changed in frequency.  If you are going to offer a loss leader free
service, then please make it a working service.  Its not nice for us either
seeing people call you out on it and be given disingenuous answers as to
when, if ever, they are going to be fixed.

I know I could spend more time on PB if things were not too frustrating, and
I am your target market. I host virtual world bots already (and fwiw i bet
their bandwidth is way bigger per head that yours, and i make a profit, but
i digress) and  PB is a fun extention of their use but with responses either
delayed, or failing, it puts a dampener on using the free service at all.
Plus its not professional.  Is this what you want?

When you started offering the bot hosting i looked and thought ouch! big
price for a hobby/improver and I would have liked to see another light user
tier, like the free hosting, but working.  However now I see you have
imposed transaction limits to even the expensive hosted solution then I can
only imagine introducing a light user tier at a single figure monthly fee
would need transaction limits far too restrictive to be useful.

So thats it, if you want in to pandorabots, its either a shoddy (sorry) free
service, or a hugely expensive working solution out of the reach of all but
serious business and the well moneyed. Shame, but there you have it.

I dont want to sound ungrateful for the free hosting that worked.....but as
pointed out, it is a component within a growing spread of products you
provide therefore you continuing to ask us to forgive its sins for being
free is starting to rankle.

Sorry to have to be negative, but I too have been frustrated by the 'free'
hosting for some time.    You want to grow you business but keep the freebs
static, so you let one poison the other. Thats not how to fix it. Who are
you going to be selling this new Spellbinder product to? People that will
test and use it where?




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[Scott Overmyer]

One gets what one pays for.  What has your contribution to pandorabots been?
Your anonymous rant seems a bit disingenuous itself, bucko.

Scotto...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pandorabots-general-
> bounces+scott.overmyer=baker.edu@...
> [mailto:pandorabots-general-
> bounces+scott.overmyer=baker.edu@...] On Behalf Of Ad
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 2:38 PM
> To: pandorabots-general@...
> Subject: Re: [pandorabots-general] Pandorabots Announces the
> Availability ofBespoke Pandorabots SpellBinder Service
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dr. Rich Wallace" <drwallace@...>
> To: <pandorabots-general@...>
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [pandorabots-general] Pandorabots Announces the
> Availability
> ofBespoke Pandorabots SpellBinder Service
>
>
> >I sympathize with your concerns about the free Pandorabots server
> > performance.   We are doing everything we can to address the problem.
>
> Its been like this for nearly a year (and probably longer), outages
> have
> just changed in frequency.  If you are going to offer a loss leader
> free
> service, then please make it a working service.  Its not nice for us
> either
> seeing people call you out on it and be given disingenuous answers as
> to
> when, if ever, they are going to be fixed.
>
> I know I could spend more time on PB if things were not too
> frustrating, and
> I am your target market. I host virtual world bots already (and fwiw i
> bet
> their bandwidth is way bigger per head that yours, and i make a profit,
> but
> i digress) and  PB is a fun extention of their use but with responses
> either
> delayed, or failing, it puts a dampener on using the free service at
> all.
> Plus its not professional.  Is this what you want?
>
> When you started offering the bot hosting i looked and thought ouch!
> big
> price for a hobby/improver and I would have liked to see another light
> user
> tier, like the free hosting, but working.  However now I see you have
> imposed transaction limits to even the expensive hosted solution then I
> can
> only imagine introducing a light user tier at a single figure monthly
> fee
> would need transaction limits far too restrictive to be useful.
>
> So thats it, if you want in to pandorabots, its either a shoddy (sorry)
> free
> service, or a hugely expensive working solution out of the reach of all
> but
> serious business and the well moneyed. Shame, but there you have it.
>
> I dont want to sound ungrateful for the free hosting that
> worked.....but as
> pointed out, it is a component within a growing spread of products you
> provide therefore you continuing to ask us to forgive its sins for
> being
> free is starting to rankle.
>
> Sorry to have to be negative, but I too have been frustrated by the
> 'free'
> hosting for some time.    You want to grow you business but keep the
> freebs
> static, so you let one poison the other. Thats not how to fix it. Who
> are
> you going to be selling this new Spellbinder product to? People that
> will
> test and use it where?
>
>
>
>
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