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Pandorabots learning engineering, design industry plant? How to do it?
by GuangXing Zhang
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Can I use Pandorabots chatbot hosting system learning engineering, design industry plant?
Can I use Pandorabots chatbot hosting system to use artificial intelligence, learn all kinds of engineering needed. I have already read all textbooks of food engineering undergraduate, mechanical engineering undergraduate, civil engineering undergraduate, software engineering undergraduate. And I have all these textbooks. Can I input engineering to Pandorabots chatbot hosting system, use artificial intelligence to design a home food production system for my house? All kinds engineering needed exists, I need Pandorabots chatbot hosting system to design a home food production system for my house? 1. Currently supply from suppliers. production plan 2. Can Pandorabots chatbot hosting system bot can reach national software development standard? Meet ISO software development standard? 3. Functions Specifications; List (for example, IPO list). I can not describe all functions requirements adopt quantity, adopt property in every item of the software, input what, by what kinds of processing, obtain what output, explain terminals quantity and concurrent working users quantity the software should support. 4. I had a house 30 m2, has a kitchen, currently I use hand tools and appliances to test cook. This house has ADSL connection, 2 M download, 512 K upload. Main Room (Downstairs and Upstairs) approximately (cm) Width Length Height 370 700 350 A Corridor, a kitchen, a bathroom, all share with neighbour. Name Location Refridgerator Downstairs Kinves Kitchen Coal Oven Kitchen Microwave Oven Downstairs Gas Oven Kitchen I must build a Protoype System (Artificial Intelligence) in this house, can produce all kinds of food and manage all suppliers Input all food material name? (2) Target Operating Hardware System: Pandorabots chatbot hosting system Used PC (now have 30-35 use PC parts) and used peripherals. 5. Error Processing Requirements Operating Environment Specifications 1. Equipments 2. Support Software 3. Interfaces 4. Control _______________________________________________ This is the pandorabots-general mailing list To Post, reply to pandorabots-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.pandorabots.com/mailman/listinfo/pandorabots-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ |
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Re: Pandorabots learning engineering, design industry plant? How to do it?
by Stanley E. Honour
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I'm a bit confused by your email. AIML has been used for years to
create 'expert systems' that can answer detailed questions about a very specific topic. Do you want your bot just to talk about food production, or to actually do it? As IN: "ATTENTION COOK ROBOT, PLEASE MAKE ME A SOUTH AMERICAN STYLE CHICKEN DINNER WITH TATER TOTS" Please specify the inputs and outputs you desire for your system. For example industrial control systems use forms of 'ladder logic' to control and coordinate machine tools in factory production lines. Are you trying to add voice commands to that kind of system? I would guess AIML has been around long enough that it has been used in industrial applications; ISO compliant? I don't know. Mr. Zhang you could also search under "Smart house applications" but is your target application for home kitchens or an industrial production line?? There is also "CAE" Computer Aided Engineering systems of many types and process simulators, but these are always specific to a particular set or 'domain' of design problems. It is one of the unreached goals of Artificial Intelligence to create a general purpose problem solver. I'm interested to hear more about what you are trying to do. -----Original Message----- From: pandorabots-general-bounces+stan=adnamis.org@... [mailto:pandorabots-general-bounces+stan=adnamis.org@... m] On Behalf Of GuangXing Zhang Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 3:27 AM To: pandorabots-general@... Subject: [pandorabots-general] Pandorabots learning engineering,design industry plant? How to do it? Can I use Pandorabots chatbot hosting system learning engineering, design industry plant? Can I use Pandorabots chatbot hosting system to use artificial intelligence, learn all kinds of engineering needed. I have already read all textbooks of food engineering undergraduate, mechanical engineering undergraduate, civil engineering undergraduate, software engineering undergraduate. And I have all these textbooks. Can I input engineering to Pandorabots chatbot hosting system, use artificial intelligence to design a home food production system for my house? All kinds engineering needed exists, I need Pandorabots chatbot hosting system to design a home food production system for my house? 1. Currently supply from suppliers. production plan 2. Can Pandorabots chatbot hosting system bot can reach national software development standard? Meet ISO software development standard? 3. Functions Specifications; List (for example, IPO list). I can not describe all functions requirements adopt quantity, adopt property in every item of the software, input what, by what kinds of processing, obtain what output, explain terminals quantity and concurrent working users quantity the software should support. 4. I had a house 30 m2, has a kitchen, currently I use hand tools and appliances to test cook. This house has ADSL connection, 2 M download, 512 K upload. Main Room (Downstairs and Upstairs) approximately (cm) Width Length Height 370 700 350 A Corridor, a kitchen, a bathroom, all share with neighbour. Name Location Refridgerator Downstairs Kinves Kitchen Coal Oven Kitchen Microwave Oven Downstairs Gas Oven Kitchen I must build a Protoype System (Artificial Intelligence) in this house, can produce all kinds of food and manage all suppliers Input all food material name? (2) Target Operating Hardware System: Pandorabots chatbot hosting system Used PC (now have 30-35 use PC parts) and used peripherals. 5. Error Processing Requirements Operating Environment Specifications 1. Equipments 2. Support Software 3. Interfaces 4. Control _______________________________________________ This is the pandorabots-general mailing list To Post, reply to pandorabots-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.pandorabots.com/mailman/listinfo/pandorabots-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ _______________________________________________ This is the pandorabots-general mailing list To Post, reply to pandorabots-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.pandorabots.com/mailman/listinfo/pandorabots-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ |
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Re: Pandorabots learning engineering, design industry plant? How to do it?
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..I cannot understand why you wish to use a pandorabot.
Surely you should just get a speech to text package? a pandorabot is a chat bot, it's purpose is to hold a conversation. 2008/6/8 GuangXing Zhang <investmententertainment@...>: I never use AIML: Artificial Intelligence Markup Language. -- -Dante Ashton Philosophus, Scriptor, Poeta _______________________________________________ This is the pandorabots-general mailing list To Post, reply to pandorabots-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.pandorabots.com/mailman/listinfo/pandorabots-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ |
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Re: Pandora bots learning engineering, design industry plant? How to do it?
by Stanley E. Honour
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I will try to answers your questions, I am not an expert in all these
subjects; my background is in data base design and business software. See below my responses to your questions. First you must define the scope of your project, set specific goals for the design. Do not make broad statements, be very detailed. The goals should not be open to interpretation; they should be clear and have the same meaning to all who see them. I'm still not clear what you mean by " I need Pandorabots chatbot hosting system to design a home food production system for my house?" Give examples. Let's pretend I am the AI bot. What things would you say to me, and what would you want me to say back to you? Lets define what is going on in the Kitchen, One cook, many cooks? A continuious restaurant type operation coordinating which meals go to which customers, and depending on the complexity of the dishes, served up in which order for maximum efficiency. Track usage of supplies? Track which dishes are cooking on which stove, and for how long? -----Original Message----- From: pandorabots-general-bounces+stan=adnamis.org@... [mailto:pandorabots-general-bounces+stan=adnamis.org@... m] On Behalf Of GuangXing Zhang Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 3:27 AM To: pandorabots-general@... Subject: [pandorabots-general] Pandorabots learning engineering,design industry plant? How to do it? Can I use Pandorabots chatbot hosting system learning engineering, design industry plant? 1) I think you can use the Chatbot AI engine as an 'expert system' and command interface using speech to text software. 2) To create an AI that could design 'industry plant' would be a huge undertaking that even a company like IBM would find very difficult. Can I use Pandorabots chatbot hosting system to use artificial intelligence, learn all kinds of engineering needed. See 2). Your chatbot could talk about engineering and mention correct issues in a subtopic. But it COULD NOT have a new idea or design anything. I have already read all textbooks of food engineering undergraduate, mechanical engineering undergraduate, civil engineering undergraduate, software engineering undergraduate. And I have all these textbooks. Can I input engineering to Pandorabots chatbot hosting system, use artificial intelligence to design a home food production system for my house? By the time you did all that, perhaps you'd have your own great ideas; anything original would come from you, not the AI. The AI could be a memory aid, a search aid, or cross referencing indexing system. All kinds engineering needed exists, I need Pandorabots chatbot hosting system to design a home food production system for my house? DO A SEARCH FOR "RESTURANT KITCHEN MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE" There should be many, many software products to choose from. Also free ware. To one of these you could add the AI as a front end for command and control to expand the software's capabilities. 1. Currently supply from suppliers. production plan 2. Can Pandorabots chatbot hosting system bot can reach national software development standard? Meet ISO software development standard? 3. Functions Specifications; List (for example, IPO list). I can not describe all functions requirements adopt quantity, adopt property in every item of the software, input what, by what kinds of processing, obtain what output, explain terminals quantity and concurrent working users quantity the software should support. 4. I had a house 30 m2, has a kitchen, currently I use hand tools and appliances to test cook. This house has ADSL connection, 2 M download, 512 K upload. Main Room (Downstairs and Upstairs) approximately (cm) Width Length Height 370 700 350 A Corridor, a kitchen, a bathroom, all share with neighbour. Name Location Refridgerator Downstairs Kinves Kitchen Coal Oven Kitchen Microwave Oven Downstairs Gas Oven Kitchen I must build a Protoype System (Artificial Intelligence) in this house, can produce all kinds of food and manage all suppliers Input all food material name? (2) Target Operating Hardware System: Pandorabots chatbot hosting system Used PC (now have 30-35 use PC parts) and used peripherals. 5. Error Processing Requirements Operating Environment Specifications 1. Equipments 2. Support Software 3. Interfaces 4. Control _______________________________________________ This is the pandorabots-general mailing list To Post, reply to pandorabots-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.pandorabots.com/mailman/listinfo/pandorabots-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ _______________________________________________ This is the pandorabots-general mailing list To Post, reply to pandorabots-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.pandorabots.com/mailman/listinfo/pandorabots-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ |
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by Stanley E. Honour
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Dear Sir, madam, Why has my reply to Mr. Zhang not appeared?
I've sent it twice. _______________________________________________ This is the pandorabots-general mailing list To Post, reply to pandorabots-general@... Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.pandorabots.com/mailman/listinfo/pandorabots-general Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/ |
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Re: Pandorabots learning engineering, design industry plant? How to do it?
by Stanley E. Honour
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AIML would be very useful in industrial
production under certain circumstances. The main one I can think of is an
expert system / search query tightly integrated with command & control. These
days many industrial processes and machine tools are very, very complicated,
requiring a lot of memorization of rigid rules and procedures A rigid
inflexible command system could be made much more flexible and user friendly,
reducing user mistakes while at the same time lowering training costs. Vague
commands or questions would generate responses that are informative and get the
user back on track. Different knowledge bases could even be customized for
different ‘grades’ of employees. E.g. Homer Simson, Hi school
grad, College grad, & Guru. . Speech I/O is just icing on the cake. From:
pandorabots-general-bounces+stan=adnamis.org@...
[mailto:pandorabots-general-bounces+stan=adnamis.org@...] On Behalf Of Danté Ashton ..I cannot understand why
you wish to use a pandorabot. 2008/6/8 GuangXing Zhang <investmententertainment@...>: I never use AIML: Artificial Intelligence Markup Language.
First, I must have machine tools.
First, home kitchens. And then, when the technology perfect, I will
test in industrial production line.
I think it's time to reach this goal.
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Re: Pandorabots learning engineering, design industry plant? How to do it?
by Stanley E. Honour
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Ah pictures are still a hard nut for AI to crack, auto indexing is still not quite here, but Google, IBM, Xerox, MIT, and others are working hard on the problem. For now you will have to index pictures yourself. See further remarks below. -----Original Message----- From: pandorabots-general-bounces+stan=adnamis.org@... [mailto:pandorabots-general-bounces+stan=adnamis.org@... m] On Behalf Of GuangXing Zhang Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:44 AM To: pandorabots-general@... Subject: Re: [pandorabots-general] Pandorabots learning engineering,design industry plant? How to do it? The AI could be a memory aid, a search aid, or cross referencing indexing system: I got textbooks from library, http://www..sslibrary.com/ the textbooks language is Chinese, the textbooks are digitalized, I can select the image, copy, upload images to pandorabots.com, to pandorabots.com harddisk, I have a reader http://www..sslibrary.com/, reader can identify the texts of the digital textbook, and then I can upload texts to pandorabots.com hard disk, how can pandorabots.com turn images and texts to knowledge, and store knowledge in pandorabots.com hard disk. Yes this is how you start building an expert system. With each fact you add several to many questions that would point to that fact. I want to input all textbooks contents to pandorabots pandorabots.com, use language programming (for example, AIML) turn all textbooks contents to knowledge, Get good "OCR" Optical Character Recognition software (e.g. Omni view) The AI could be a system like a brain, AI can think, automated reasoning, according to knowledge it has, it can compute new knowledge, they can compute new knowledge, can they compute new knowledge to a special target, so call design? A special target can be a machine? Special targets can be machines. Special targets can be production lines. Special targets can be more large systems. Special targets can be a large industry district. Special targets can be even large size... AI ENGINES CURRENTLY CAN NOT GENERATE NEW KNOWLEDGE, COME BACK IN TEN YEARS. It can however, help YOU see new associations. In AIML & AI land 'Special targets' are called "DOMAINS". The bigger the domain, the more difficult it is to program the knowledge base. Large domains require EXPOTENTIONALLY LARGER 'KB' knowledge bases. That is the growth of the knowledge base is a non linear ratio to the domain being represented. I will ask pandorabots pandorabots.com, are you ready? pandorabots pandorabots.com reply, 'I am ready.' I will ask pandorabots pandorabots.com, what I shuold do now? pandorabots pandorabots.com reply, 'many codes line by line, I copy these codes, save as a file, use another software open as a draft, this draft can send to process factories to manufacture parts, assembly machines, ... I will ask pandorabots pandorabots.com, 'hello.' pandorabots pandorabots.com reply, 'Job 6464138668656 unfinished, this is the instruction, complete the task.' I will ask pandorabots pandorabots.com, 'Job 6464138668656 finished.' I will ask pandorabots pandorabots.com, 'hello.' pandorabots pandorabots.com tell me, 'here is the software, below is the codes, then it output codes line by line' I copy the codes to a file, obtain software install files, install in computers. pandorabots pandorabots.com can design machines, design software, anything pandorabots pandorabots.com can not do? Unless you have several million $dollars$ to spend, and a team of 30 phd scientists; I do not think you can program AIML to do this yet. Oh and by the way you would need a CRAY SUPER COMPUTER to do the calculations. Dr. Wallace, please correct me if I am wrong. The difficult points are how to upload images and texts to pandorabots.com, and store in pandorabots.com hard disk; how do pandorabots.com turn images and texts to knowledge, and store knowledge in pandorabots.com hard disk; Ah uploading the data is easy. Indexing and organizing will keep you up for many late nights. How do pandorabots.com according to knowledge it has, it can compute new knowledge, they can compute new knowledge. SORRY NO NEW KNOWLEDGE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES AS OF NOW. The AI could be a system like a brain, AI can think, automated reasoning, according to knowledge it has, it can compute new knowledge, they can compute new knowledge, can they compute new knowledge to a special target, so call design? A special target can be a machine? Special targets can be machines. Special targets can be production lines. Special targets can be more large systems. Special targets can be a large industry district. Special targets can be even large size... Let me give you an example: One bot I know of is designed to simulate the personality and knowledge of a 5 year old girl. The knowledge base being built will initially have about 10,000 responses; (things 'she' can say) for each of these there is a minimum of 3-5 indexes & cross reference 'nodes' for a total of about 55,000 items. One person has been working on this knowledge base for two years and is not finished. This 55000 item domain does not even represent the true scope of a 5 year olds knowledge; which is probably ten times larger still. In other words, what I am saying is that there is a HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK in developing a knowledge base for a large domain. Therefore most all bot designs strictly limit the domain the bot can discuss. --- On Sun, 6/8/08, pandorabots-general-request@... <pandorabots-general-request@...> wrote: > From: pandorabots-general-request@... <pandorabots-general-request@...> > Subject: pandorabots-general Digest, Vol 52, Issue 4 > To: pandorabots-general@... > Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 3:00 PM > Send pandorabots-general mailing list submissions to > pandorabots-general@... > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.pandorabots.com/mailman/listinfo/pandorabots-general > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > pandorabots-general-request@... > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pandorabots-general-owner@... > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of pandorabots-general > digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Pandorabots learning engineering, design industry > plant? > How to do it? (GuangXing Zhang) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:25:52 -0700 (PDT) > From: GuangXing Zhang > <investmententertainment@...> > Subject: Re: [pandorabots-general] Pandorabots learning > engineering, > design industry plant? How to do it? > To: pandorabots-general@... > Message-ID: > <639876.39770.qm@...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I never use AIML: Artificial Intelligence Markup Language. > > I want my bot to actually do food production? Instruct me, > manage production, or manage robots to do food production. > > For example industrial control systems use forms of > 'ladder logic' to control and coordinate machine > tools in factory production lines. > > First, I must have machine tools. > > And I don't want robot to control tools, I want to > control tools myself now. > > That's base on cost. > > I want bot remind me: "ATTENTION DAVID, IT'S TIME > TO MAKE A SOUTH AMERICAN STYLE CHICKEN DINNER WITH TATER > TOTS, FIRST, DO..." > > I will go to store buy professional cooking tools. > > And then, I want to input engineering knowledge to the bot. > > I don't know how to specify the inputs and outputs I > desire for the system. > > I hope to add voice commands to that kind of system. > > I will reply to bot, I finished HI((*(* job, reply, > 'yes' or 'no', input numbers. > > "I would guess AIML has been around long enough that > it has been used in industrial applications." > > I hope AIML can design simple tools for me, for example > simple cooking machine in kitchen, I will test the bot to > design low cost cooking machine for me. > > "search under "Smart house applications" but > is your target application for home kitchens or an > industrial production line?? " > > First, home kitchens. And then, when the technology > perfect, I will test in industrial production line. > > "There is also "CAE" Computer Aided > Engineering systems of many types and process simulators, > but these are always specific to a particular set or > 'domain' of design problems. " > > It is one of the unreached goals of Artificial Intelligence > to create a general purpose problem solver. > > I think it's time to reach this goal. > > First, I want the bot design a home kitchen for me, and > design new simple tools, and then new simple machines. > > The same as industrial production line. > > I will invest in home kitchen and tools, and machines. > > Then I will invest in industrial production line. > > But, everything has the begining, I must complete the > simple system first. > > Now I need to realize the basic system. > > > "Smart house applications" > > by the way I have a project say <Snow White And The > Seven Dwarfs>, an Fairy Tales Artificial Intelligence > System with Machineries Systems and Robots Systems in > another city. > http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=dct2h34x_913nv4zkgp > > I want to use pandorabots to implement this project. > And use pandorabots to design furniture, use one computer > "used PC" connect to internet through cable TV. > use pandorabots online, and play multimedia in the > computer. > > Can I post this project in this topic or I need to start a > new topic? > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pandorabots-general mailing list > pandorabots-general@... > http://list.pandorabots.com/mailman/listinfo/pandorabots-general > > > End of pandorabots-general Digest, Vol 52, Issue 4 > ************************************************** _______________________________________________ This is the pandorabots-general mailing list To Post, reply to pandorabots-general@... 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