Please, unblock youtube-dl/2009.09.13-1

[Rogério Brito]

Hi.

The youtube-dl package was not updated for some time, but I stepped up
and became a maintainer, with a new uploaded version.

So, I would appreciate if you could unblock youtube-dl/2009.09.13-1, as
it has been already in unstable long enough to migrate to testing.


Regards, Rogério Brito.

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[Luk Claes]

Rogério Brito wrote:
> Hi.
>
> The youtube-dl package was not updated for some time, but I stepped up
> and became a maintainer, with a new uploaded version.
>
> So, I would appreciate if you could unblock youtube-dl/2009.09.13-1, as
> it has been already in unstable long enough to migrate to testing.

Will it survive interface/protocol changes?

Cheers

Luk


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[Rogério Brito]

Hi, Luk.

On Nov 05 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
> Rogério Brito wrote:
> > So, I would appreciate if you could unblock youtube-dl/2009.09.13-1, as
>
> Will it survive interface/protocol changes?

Really, I don't know and I can't give any assurance, but upstream is
quite active and responsive (I have already submitted some patches and
he was fast integrating changes and cleaning up the code).

In other words, we have people looking after the package.


Regards, Rogério Brito.

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[Goswin von Brederlow-2]

Rogério Brito <rbrito@...> writes:

> Hi, Luk.
>
> On Nov 05 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
>> Rogério Brito wrote:
>> > So, I would appreciate if you could unblock youtube-dl/2009.09.13-1, as
>>
>> Will it survive interface/protocol changes?
>
> Really, I don't know and I can't give any assurance, but upstream is
> quite active and responsive (I have already submitted some patches and
> he was fast integrating changes and cleaning up the code).
>
> In other words, we have people looking after the package.
>
>
> Regards, Rogério Brito.

But will it remain functional for 1-3 years in stable/old-stable?

MfG
        Goswin


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[Russ Allbery-2]

Rogério Brito <rbrito@...> writes:
> On Nov 05 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
>> Rogério Brito wrote:

>>> So, I would appreciate if you could unblock youtube-dl/2009.09.13-1, as

>> Will it survive interface/protocol changes?

> Really, I don't know and I can't give any assurance, but upstream is
> quite active and responsive (I have already submitted some patches and
> he was fast integrating changes and cleaning up the code).

> In other words, we have people looking after the package.

Perhaps debian-volatile would be a better home for it than the regular
stable release?

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[Rogério Brito]

Hi, Goswin and Luk.

2009/11/5 Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@...>:
> Rogério Brito <rbrito@...> writes:
>> In other words, we have people looking after the package.
>
> But will it remain functional for 1-3 years in stable/old-stable?

Of course, I can't guarantee anything, since the online services have
a quite ephemeral and volatile nature: for instance, the current
Amarok in stable has broken access to the Wikipedia articles (and
Wikipedia is quite open, for all that matters) and broken access to
Amazon for fetching covers (despite the fact that they have published
their APIs).

Unfortunately, the maintainer seems to be focused on KDE in unstable
and has declared that he isn't that much motivated to upload a fix
release, despite some of the patches being trivial and lenny having a
very long life still.

But talking again about downloaders like youtube-dl, I think that the
equality of judgement for packages fit for release should be
considered with clive, cclive and many other programs that use
unestablished interfaces.

Another program in the same league is freepop, which acts as a pop
proxy for some webmail services that don't offer ways of downloading
the users' messages.

Anyway, perhaps having youtube-dl in a stable release is not really
the way to go. No problems. I can live with the package being in
unstable only and pointing people to apt-pin their packages.


Regards, Rogério Brito.

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[dann frazier]

On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 08:38:02AM -0200, Rogério Brito wrote:

> Hi, Goswin and Luk.
>
> 2009/11/5 Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@...>:
> > Rogério Brito <rbrito@...> writes:
> >> In other words, we have people looking after the package.
> >
> > But will it remain functional for 1-3 years in stable/old-stable?
>
> Of course, I can't guarantee anything, since the online services have
> a quite ephemeral and volatile nature: for instance, the current
> Amarok in stable has broken access to the Wikipedia articles (and
> Wikipedia is quite open, for all that matters) and broken access to
> Amazon for fetching covers (despite the fact that they have published
> their APIs).
>
> Unfortunately, the maintainer seems to be focused on KDE in unstable
> and has declared that he isn't that much motivated to upload a fix
> release, despite some of the patches being trivial and lenny having a
> very long life still.
>
> But talking again about downloaders like youtube-dl, I think that the
> equality of judgement for packages fit for release should be
> considered with clive, cclive and many other programs that use
> unestablished interfaces.
>
> Another program in the same league is freepop, which acts as a pop
> proxy for some webmail services that don't offer ways of downloading
> the users' messages.
>
> Anyway, perhaps having youtube-dl in a stable release is not really
> the way to go. No problems. I can live with the package being in
> unstable only and pointing people to apt-pin their packages.

Why not volatile?

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